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Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach

Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach

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The changes needed to support living-wage jobs, to combat the climate crisis, to make medicines accessible for all...

Much of it won’t be possible unless we overhaul our corporate-rigged trade system. Trade Expert Lori Wallach explores ways to make our progressive trade vision a reality.

Episodes 1 - 43 were produced in partnership with Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch.
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A Progressive Shock Doctrine on Globalization?

Rethinking Trade with Lori WallachMay 06, 2020

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BREAKING NEWS: China's WTO Complaint Against the U.S. on Electric-Vehicle Subsidies

BREAKING NEWS: China's WTO Complaint Against the U.S. on Electric-Vehicle Subsidies

BREAKING NEWS: China's WTO Complaint Against the U.S. on Electric-Vehicle Subsidies.


Lori gives background, and tells you what it means.

Mar 27, 202409:05
Back from Abu Dhabi: Inside the WTO Biannual Ministerial Meeting

Back from Abu Dhabi: Inside the WTO Biannual Ministerial Meeting

In our latest episode of Rethinking Trade, we’re talking about the major trade event of the year -- the 13th Ministerial Conference of the World Trade Organization (WTO).
It’s a major global biennial meeting where cabinet-level officials, like U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai, get together to set the agenda for the international  trade and commerce body.
Rethink Trade Research Director Daniel Rangel was on the scene in Abu Dhabi. In this episode he dissects the outcomes (or lack thereof!) at the conference. Lori and Daniel explore the implications for the WTO itself as well as fisheries stocks, anti-hunger programs, and much more. You also don’t want to miss how the WTO Director-General’s agenda-setting efforts impacted the negotiations.

Mar 22, 202426:25
Don't Be Terrified of Tariffs (with Scott Paul of AAM)

Don't Be Terrified of Tariffs (with Scott Paul of AAM)

Tariffs are in the news again! Why does that term generate such vitriol from some quarters and joy from others?!
 
This week, we explore that question with Scott Paul, 
the President of the Alliance for American Manufacturing 
Scott and host Lori Wallach discuss how increasingly Democrats and Republicans alike now view tariffs as just another policy tool. For most of U.S. history, this was the American perspective. Tariffs - charges collected at the border on imported goods - were the main source of government revenue when the country was founded.  
 
It seemed useful to unpack what tariffs are and who is generating the negative hype about them given the recent wave of news stories attacking the very concept. Spoiler alert: Tariffs are not a scary, dangerous thing lurking in your economy in the middle of the night!

Mar 04, 202418:39
Death by Express Delivery: De Minimis Trade Scandal Grows

Death by Express Delivery: De Minimis Trade Scandal Grows

Our latest episode of the Rethinking Trade podcast offers an urgent update about the de minimis loophole that we first discussed in 2022. It has gotten much worse. E-commerce sites like Amazon, Shein and Temu use this loophole to skirt U.S. Customs and safety inspections and dodge all taxes and trade-cheating enforcement sanctions. Uyghur forced-labor products slip in and fake and dangerous goods too. The loophole is also increasingly being used by criminals to deliver illegal drugs with tragic consequences wracking families nationwide. Our special guest this week is one of the nation’s leading experts on this dangerous scam. Kim Glas, a fighter for fair trade for decades from her roles in Congress, the Obama administration and a labor-environmental group is now president of the National Council of Textile Organization. She has all of the inside information and a strategy of how we can end the de minimis scam once and for all.

Feb 02, 202419:41
Out with the Old: ISDS & Charting a New Future with Senator Warren and Prof. Stiglitz

Out with the Old: ISDS & Charting a New Future with Senator Warren and Prof. Stiglitz

In our latest episode, we have two very special guests - voices you will know - talking about a corporate trade power tool that definitely should be on the “out with the old” list!

We’re talking about Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) and its implications for our economies and democracies. First, a quick refresher:

 

What is ISDS? 

ISDS grants foreign investors special rights and privileges, allowing them to sue governments outside of domestic courts. These suits often result in staggering compensations for corporations, all while undermining public policies.

 

ISDS has to go. 

 

That’s why we teamed up with Nobel-winning economist Prof. Joseph Stiglitz and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass), our guests on this podcast, to release a paper that we co authored with experts from Columbia Center on Sustainable Investment and the Center for the Advancement of the Rule of Law in the Americas at Georgetown University Law Center, about how we can exit out of ISDS in the Americas. 

Dec 23, 202324:44
PART TWO: The AI Bill of Rights and Its Trade Implications -
Nov 10, 202325:44
PART ONE: Unraveling AI Risks and Benefits (or Get Smart on AI featuring HAL 9000)

PART ONE: Unraveling AI Risks and Benefits (or Get Smart on AI featuring HAL 9000)

Greetings from DC!

 

OK, hope all you 2001: A Space Odyssey fans got a chuckle and no HAL9000 is not joining this edition of the podcast! We have a much better guest, Suresh Venkatasubramanian who co-authored the Biden administration’s Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights.

 

We've all seen Artificial Intelligence or "AI" making headlines recently, and it's raising critical questions:

 

* How will AI impact our daily lives?    * And just how do we regulate it to limit what seems like serious risks? * How do we make sure Big Tech interests do not use “digital trade” agreements to pre-empt AI accountability?

 

Join us for Part One of a special two-part Rethinking Trade series on AI, where we delve into these pressing issues. In this episode, Rethink Trade’s Lori Wallach and Daniel Rangel engage in a discussion with Professor Suresh Venkatasubramanian who is now with Brown University after serving as Assistant Director for Science and Justice in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

 

Together, we explore what AI actually is, its  real-world applications, how it is affecting us right NOW, and how governments can help limit its threats and maximize its benefits. In Part 1 of this fascinating conversation with Suresh, you'll gain a deeper understanding of what AI is and how it could shape our future.

Oct 20, 202321:18
MINI-EPISODE: The UAW Strike Story Not on the News with Larry Cohen

MINI-EPISODE: The UAW Strike Story Not on the News with Larry Cohen

Once you've finished listening to our new episode with Larry Cohen, check out this mini-episode as he discusses the UAW strike.

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We're thrilled to present our latest episode of the Rethinking Trade podcast. Lori is joined by Larry Cohen, former President of the Communication Workers of America, for a guided tour of the United Auto Workers (UAW) strike. Spoiler alert: There’s a lot more about this strike and how it could impact all of us than most of us know.

 

Larry brings his decades of experience building worker power and broad knowledge of labor history to discuss:

·      The big issues not gaining headlines, like how the strike could broadly shape U.S. workers’ fate in the future green economy,

·      The role this strike plays in the arc of U.S. workers struggles,

·      Where we need to go from here, including what we need to push Congress to do.

 

Larry’s knowledge and experience makes this conversation a must-listen for anyone interested in a fair economy and social justice.

Oct 13, 202302:06
The UAW Strike Story Not on the News with Larry Cohen

The UAW Strike Story Not on the News with Larry Cohen

We're thrilled to present our latest episode of the Rethinking Trade podcast. Lori is joined by Larry Cohen, former President of the Communication Workers of America, for a guided tour of the United Auto Workers (UAW) strike.


(Spoiler alert: There’s a lot more about this strike and how it could impact all of us than most of us know!)


Larry brings his decades of experience building worker power and broad knowledge of labor history to discuss:

·     The big issues not gaining headlines, like how the strike could broadly shape U.S. workers’ fate in the future green economy,

·     The role this strike plays in the arc of U.S. workers struggles,

·     Where we need to go from here, including what we need to push Congress to do.

 

Larry’s knowledge and experience makes this conversation a must-listen for anyone interested in a fair economy and social justice.

Oct 13, 202325:22
The DMA, DSA, EU, AI and You

The DMA, DSA, EU, AI and You

In the latest episode of Rethinking Trade, our guests unpack the specific policies safeguarding Europeans’ privacy, busting Big Tech monopolies, and banning the most risky uses if AI. Yup, all of the policies Big Tech has managed to evade here so far…  We’re joined by: 

  • Calli Schroeder, Senior Counsel and Global Privacy Counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center

  • Jesse Lehrich, Co-Founder of Accountable Tech

Calli and Jesse also have some great ideas about what we can do to secure some of the same safeguards. And how does this connect with trade, you ask? ICYMI, in past episodes we’ve exposed how the current favorite strategy of Big Tech lobbyists trying to kill the EU’s policies and evade any oversight here is to claim that these policies are illegal trade barriers. 

It’s confusing because they say that, but are also trying to get new rules negotiated in Asian and global trade agreements that actually would ban such policies. And also somehow if they do not get their way, China will benefit.

Yup, it makes no sense. But that’s the line. And its a fight that is heating up right now. If nothing else, we promise if you listen you will know what all the EU acronyms you hear in the news mean - GDPR, DSA, DMA - oh my!



Sep 18, 202336:21
Airlines Offshoring Plane Maintenance?!

Airlines Offshoring Plane Maintenance?!

If you thought the air travel fiasco could not get worse, consider the scary news that airlines are offshoring the maintenance work needed to keep planes safe. It’s the same greedy cost-cutting behind the outdated computer systems and gutted airline staffing that is causing the epic air travel meltdowns upending millions of peoples’ lives. In the race-to-the-bottom offshore aircraft maintenance facilities in El Salvador, Singapore, China, and Brazil mechanics’ special aircraft certifications, security and background checks, and drug testing is waived. And of course there are no FAA inspectors doing spot checks. Just like with the flight schedule Hell, the Department of Transportation is letting the airlines get away with it. Experts say it’s just a matter of time before there is a horrific incident.

In this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach, we are joined by the two people in the country who know the most about this threat. William McGee, Senior Fellow for Aviation and Travel at the American Economic Liberties Project, is America’s leading aviation consumer safety and rights expert with 22 years at Consumer Reports. He’s a former FAA licensed aircraft dispatcher. Gary Peterson is the Vice of the Transport Workers Union and a certified Airframe and Powerplant aviation mechanic by trade. He is Executive Director to the International President and former Air Division Director at the union. Gary worked for decades for American Airlines leading the teams who safety inspect and rebuild planes. He also served as crew chief doing maintenance on aircraft in the Air Force. Gary, Bill and Lori talk about the lunacy of offshoring aircraft safety inspection and maintanace lunatic practice has been allowed and how to fix the problem now.

Jan 24, 202324:18
Shocker or Not: End China Trade Status Says Bipartisan Commission

Shocker or Not: End China Trade Status Says Bipartisan Commission

Shock waves were sent through Washington, D.C.’s many trade wonks when the U.S.-China Economic and Security Commission gave a unanimous bipartisan recommendation that Congress consider ending China’s Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR). Opponents of China PNTR were trashed as idiots, protectionists and doom mongers during a brutal 2000 U.S. national debate about China’s trade status and entry into the World Trade Organization. Now 22 years later, those opponents’ concerns proved not only to be right, but understated. But its a rarity in Washington to have high-level commissioners half appointed by the GOP while Democratic leadership AGREE to call for the reversal of a major policy mistake. “Hallelujah!” was the response from a labor leader receiving the news, while a small business CEO emailed us back an “Amen!”

Whether or not Congress will follow the recommendation remains to be seen. But the fact that the U.S.-China trade debate has come to this juncture is both shocking, and based on the outcomes of the last 22 years, is not shocking at all.

On this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach, we are joined by Michael Wessel, an original member of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, who is one of the nation’s leading experts on China trade and security. Lori and Michael unpack how we got to this juncture, the damage that was done along the way, the supply chain issues we are now dealing with, and our options going forward for U.S.-China trade relations. This episode provides the color commentary to bring context to the endless parade of China trade headlines in the news.

Dec 16, 202224:47
EVs and Solar: What’s with the Rage About US Joining Fight Against Climate Chaos?

EVs and Solar: What’s with the Rage About US Joining Fight Against Climate Chaos?

The U.S. finally is getting its act together on climate with big new tax credits for people who buy electric vehicles (EVS) and go solar and incentives for companies to do invest in green production.  So why are European and Asian governments steaming mad at us and screaming “trade barrier!!” in numerous languages, instead of cheering our better-late-than-never climate action?   Especially given we only have less than 10 years to take drastic measures or face dire climate catastrophe! Will the Biden administration cave in and roll back these excellent new policies that were explicitly designed to simultaneously counter the interrelated crises of climate chaos, supply chain meltdowns causing shortages and inflation, and economic inequality and anxiety?

On this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach we unpack what was in the Inflation Reduction Act and how it can help more people get an EV, go solar, have reliable supplies of such products and good jobs making them. Ben Beachy, the Vice President of Manufacturing and Industrial Policy at the BlueGreen Alliance explains it all. Plus, Ben and Lori make sense of the short-sighted sniping from other countries. (Hint: Think circular firing squad!)

Nov 10, 202227:50
Factory Towns Can Save Democracy & Democrats Alike

Factory Towns Can Save Democracy & Democrats Alike

Every election is THE most important in our lifetimes, except the 2022 midterms and 2024 presidential actually are. How have we come to this crisis of democracy? A team of data scientists, opinion researchers, and strategists spent a year studying the two-time Obama voters who then elected Trump in 2020 and their shattered communities. The resulting “Factory Towns Project” demolishes the conventional wisdom about the path forward for democracy and Democrats. And yes, decades of corporate-rigged trade deals and economic policies that killed millions of manufacturing jobs in thousands of “factory towns” are part of this story.

On this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach we get a guided tour from the two “Factory Towns Project” leaders: Celinda Lake, President of Lake Research Partners, who is one of the Democratic Party’s leading political strategists and one of two lead pollsters for the Biden campaign in 2020. And Mike Lux, co-founder of Democracy Partners and President of Progressive Strategies LLC. Spoiler: going moderate and mushy to target suburban voters is not the way forward for Democrats. More importantly, making America meet its promise by delivering for the factory town communities is critical to the health of our democracy.


Here is the link to the report: https://www.americanfamilyvoices.org/post/winning-back-the-factory-towns-that-made-trumpism-possible

Oct 27, 202226:15
Treat IPEF with Sunlight To Avoid Harm

Treat IPEF with Sunlight To Avoid Harm

Your doctor’s not at fault if you don’t know about IPEF. It’s not a new virus. But it could harm billions of people. Or not. IPEF = Indo-Pacific Economic Framework. Setting rules for 40% of the world’s economy is the goal of this recently-launched “trade” negotiation. With the public and Congress locked out so far, few people even know about these talks involving 14 nations.

Big Tech interests are using their money and lobbyists and the IPEF’s secretive process to try to rig it. They want to lock in their power and monopolies to rake in the profits by trading in our personal data, tracking us, flooding our kids with garbage, and crushing competitors. Some in the Biden administration hope to harness IPEF to develop a new “worker-centered” trade policy. Others seem to be in cahoots with Big Tech. In this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach, Lori breaks down what the IPEF is, how these talks could affect each of our lives and why we all need to start paying attention to IPEF before it’s too late.

Sep 21, 202216:21
Shady COVID Deal: WTO’s Midnight Scandal

Shady COVID Deal: WTO’s Midnight Scandal

After two years of pandemic and 15 million dead, how did the first big global WTO summit end with WTO intellectual property barriers still blocking global access to COVID meds? This episode exposes how a sham text gavelled through in the middle of the night and produced a worse-than-nothing outcome only Big Pharma can love. How could this happen given more than 100 WTO countries wanted a real fix?

On this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach we bring back two activist lawyers we heard from earlier in the fight: Fatima Hassan at Cape Town’s Health Justice Initiative, South Africa and Sangeeta Shashikant with the global Third World Network. Together, they’ll walk through what happened, how we’ve been collectively gaslighted, and the current state of affairs. The fight for global access to COVID meds continues!

Jul 13, 202230:28
De Minimis: Amazon’s Big Little Secret

De Minimis: Amazon’s Big Little Secret

On this episode of Rethinking Trade with Lori Wallach we’ll expose Amazon’s big little secret — a loophole which allows Amazon and other online giants to import billions of dollars in uninspected, unsafe, tax-dodging goods from China into the United States every year. Only Uzbekistan has a bigger “de minimis” loophole, which is the technical name for this scam. Today, more than two million such uninspected packages slip through every day from China alone.

Lori is joined by one of our country’s great champions for working people and manufacturing, the President and CEO of the National Council of Textile Organizations, Kim Glas. She will break down how this loophole works, who it is hurting and what’s being done to fix it.

Jun 01, 202222:60
Drugs, COVID, the WTO and a Leaked Text

Drugs, COVID, the WTO and a Leaked Text

In this episode, Lori talks with two trailblazing attorneys: Fatima Hassan at Cape Town’s Health Justice Initiative, South Africa and Sangeeta Shashikant with the global Third World Network. They discuss why after 18 months, there still is no deal to waive the WTO intellectual property rules blocking global access to COVID vaccines, treatments and tests. And the dire threats posed here and there by less than 20% of people in developing countries being vaccinated. And if you were confused by news that a deal to fix this WTO mess was reached, we’ll help make sense of that too. What *really* happened is a story of attempted steamroller tactics being stopped by people power. Plus, they discuss what’s next in the fight to end the pandemic.

Apr 29, 202222:41
WTF? WTO Still Blocking End to the Pandemic

WTF? WTO Still Blocking End to the Pandemic

In this episode, Lori talks with a leading public health expert about how we could END the pandemic and how World Trade Organization monopolies for Big Pharma are blocking that. Health GAP director Asia Russell, who helped bust Big Pharma monopolies to get HIV-AIDS meds to people worldwide, lays out the current COVID situation worldwide and what actions can end the pandemic.

Feb 09, 202220:48
MC12, Part 2: Still No COVID Waiver, But WTO Inks Services Deregulation Deal
Dec 06, 202115:04
MC12, Part 1: Will Big Pharma and Big Tech Win at Next Week’s WTO Ministerial?

MC12, Part 1: Will Big Pharma and Big Tech Win at Next Week’s WTO Ministerial?

Will the WTO get out of the way of global production of COVID-19 vaccines and meds so we can end this pandemic? Whether Big Pharma or humankind will win is the biggest question as the WTO’s major biennial ministerial meeting starts the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.  But Big Tech also has a play…

More than 120 countries support waiving some of the WTO Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) rules that are limiting production of COVID-19 vaccines, treatments and diagnostic tests. But the European Union, UK and Switzerland are blocking. A waiver wont happen without more leadership from the Biden administration.

With all this as a backdrop, Big Tech corporations are also vying for influence at MC12, urging the body to push so-called “digital trade” proposal that would close domestic policy space on issues of great importance, including gig economy worker protections, discrimination and algorithm transparency, competition policy and anti-trust, corporate liability, and consumer privacy. Big Tech wants the WTO to formalize what have beeb rump talks in violation of its own rules.

The stakes could not be higher for the WTO or for the world: Failure to enact a waiver will prolong the pandemic, leading to more death, illness, economic hardship, and social and political disruption. And rushing through a “Trojan Horse” set of “digital trade” rules will only further erode democracy worldwide.


LINKS:

MC12 Global Call to Action

3 Million TRIPS Petitions Delivered to President Biden

Senators Sanders, Warren, Baldwin and Brown call on Biden to Push for TRIPS Waiver at MC12

Reuters: Activists Urge Biden to Push for Intellectual Property Waiver for COVID-19 Vaccines

Big Tech’s “Digital Trade” Trojan Horse Strategy

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Music: Groove Grove by Kevin MacLeod.

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3831-groove-grove.

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Nov 24, 202115:29
 A New U.S. Approach to the WTO?
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Apple & Google Seek U.S. Trade Attack on Anti-Monopoly Law
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President Biden Could End the COVID Pandemic at This Week’s UN Summit - Will He?
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Labor Day Special: An Historic Vote in a Mexican Auto Plant
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Hyperglobalization, COVID and Failed Supply Chains: Now What?
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U.S. Inaction is Enabling COVID-19 Variants to Spread
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NAFTA Keystone XL Pipeline $15B ISDS Attack
Jul 29, 202113:05
The USMCA: A Year in Review
Jul 12, 202120:23
The Fight for Workers’ Rights in North America: Big Developments Under the Revised NAFTA
Jun 07, 202150:37
Emergency COVID-19 TRIPS Waiver: With U.S. Now Supporting, What’s Next?
May 26, 202117:01
NTE: The Corporate Seek-And-Destroy List that Guides U.S. Trade Policy
Apr 12, 202113:13
Deep Dive: How WTO Rules Protect Big Pharma Profits
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Will Biden Build Back Green, or Import Green?
Mar 22, 202113:42
LIVE: U.S. Must Lift WTO Block on COVID-19 Vaccine Technology (w/Rep. Jan Schakowsky and other guests)
Feb 23, 202101:00:15
What The Biden Administration Can Do To Fix Our Trade Mess, Part 2
Feb 16, 202118:06
President Biden Should Reverse Trump's Deadly Obstruction of Global COVID-19 Vaccines
Feb 08, 202115:54
What The Biden Administration Can Do To Fix Our Trade Mess, Part 1
Feb 02, 202120:10
Rethinking Trade in 2021: What Are We For?

Rethinking Trade in 2021: What Are We For?

With Georgia’s run-off elections shifting control of the Senate to the Democrats, the party will have a lot more room to pursue progressive reforms than in previous years. What does this mean for fixing our rotten trade rules, and what kinds of policies should we be pursuing?

In part one of this episode, we address this question by discussing the TRADE Act of 2009. Co-sponsored by 135 members of the House and developed with a coalition of labor, environmental and other civil society organizations, the TRADE Act laid out a comprehensive vision for trade policies that would promote employment and development while protecting the environment and public health. But a lot has happened since then, from the harsh lessons COVID-19 had taught us about the facilities of hyperglobalization to the growing climate crisis to Big Tech’s monopoly choke hold. So how would progressives build on the vision of a decade ago?

In part two, we look at President-Elect Biden’s commitment to impose a moratorium on new trade deals until major investments are made to protect U.S. workers, and we discuss how important it is that this period also include a process of rethinking and fixing U.S. trade policy to work for people and the planet.

Learn more at rethinktrade.org.

Music: Groove Grove by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3831-groove-grove

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Jan 19, 202116:34
How U.S. Trade Policies Disproportionately Impacted Black and Latino Workers, w/Special Guest Dolores Huerta
Jan 11, 202132:37
U.S. Officials Are Blocking Global COVID-19 Vaccine Access at the WTO
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What Will Biden’s Cabinet Picks Mean for U.S. Trade Policy?
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Preview: The Friendly Troll - The US Kenya FTA Part 3, featuring Lori Wallach
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Whatever Happened to Trump’s Big China Deal?
Oct 27, 202015:30
How We Were Fast Tracked Into Corporate-Rigged Trade Deals

How We Were Fast Tracked Into Corporate-Rigged Trade Deals

Oct 14, 202015:36
Big Oil Wants to Use a Stealthy Trade Deal to Kill African Environmental Protections
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Offshoring Continues: The Data vs. Trump’s Promises
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How Free Trade Divided the Democratic Party
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Online Retail Giants Sneak Attack by Trade Pact
Aug 31, 202011:39
What’s the Real Story With All the “Buy American” Hype?

What’s the Real Story With All the “Buy American” Hype?

Since the 1930’s, “Buy American” rules have required that the U.S. government purchase goods – from cars and computers to planes and paper –  that are made in the United States.  But these rules that recycle our tax dollars to support jobs and promote domestic innovation have been severely undermined by our trade policies in the last few decades.

Today, “Buy American” really means that companies and products from 60 countries must be given the same access to the almost $600 billion spent annually in U.S. government contracts as U.S. firms and products. Effectively, we now outsource our tax dollars to support jobs in other countries. 

On this episode, we unpack these policies and examine both Donald Trump and Joe Biden’s recent Buy American policy proposals.

Learn more at rethinktrade.org.

Music: Groove Grove by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3831-groove-groveLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Aug 19, 202013:58