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64: Restoring Soil Health for Resilient Farms—with Louise Edmonds of Intuit Earth

Reversing Climate Change

64: Restoring Soil Health for Resilient Farms—with Louise Edmonds of Intuit Earth

Reversing Climate Change

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Rebuilding trust in a polarized world—Dr. Kevin Vallier, philosopher at Bowling Green State University
According to the NOMINATE Index, the last time the US was this polarized was just before and during the Civil War. So, how did we get here? And what can the philosophy of public reason liberalism teach us about living together—even when we don’t agree on much? Dr. Kevin Vallier is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green University and author of Trust in a Polarized Age and Must Politics Be War? Restoring Trust in the Open Society. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Vallier joins Ross to discuss the doom loop between falling distrust and growing polarization and address how we can learn to disagree in more a productive way. Dr. Vallier explains liberalism in general and public reason liberalism specifically, describing how we might build a shared doctrine that appeals to multiple reasonable perspectives. Listen in for Dr. Vallier’s public reason argument for restricting carbon emissions and learn what we can do to rebuild trust in our institutions and each other. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Books by Kevin Vallier Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier Must Politics Be War? Restoring Our Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier Nolan McCarty on Google Scholar Network Propaganda: Manipulation, Disinformation and Radicalization in American Politics by Yochal Benkler, Robert Faris and Hal Roberts So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson John Rawls Jerry Gaus A Theory of Justice by John Rawls Political Liberalism by John Rawls Public Reason Liberalism
01:03:51
April 16, 2021
S2E59: Is endless growth Crazy Town?—w/ Dr. Jason Bradford of the Post Carbon Institute
Empires rise and fall. And while we understand these cycles conceptually, there’s a bizarre notion that we are somehow immune. That we can continue to evolve toward greater ease and material abundance generation after generation. That our potential for growth is somehow unlimited. But natural resources are finite. So, what happens when we run out? Dr. Jason Bradford is the Cofounder of Farmland LP and Cohost of Crazy Town, a podcast produced by the Post Carbon Institute that explores “climate change, overshoot, and runaway capitalism”. He is also the author of The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Bradford joins Ross to explain what differentiates ecological economics from other schools of thought and why some resources are simply too valuable to price. Dr. Bradford shares his prediction regarding a great simplification of civilization, describing his vision of a future where we might still enjoy modern conveniences but at a very different scale. Listen in to understand why we he thinks we can’t ‘artificial ecosystem’ our way on to other planets, why industrial carbon capture is a bad idea, and how we might build a lower-complexity society that is sustainable for the long term. Connect with Ross Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Crazy Town podcast The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification by Jason Bradford Farmland LP Post Carbon Institute Tom Murphy’s Do the Math Blog on Economic Growth Enough Is Enough: Building a Sustainable Economy in a World of Finite Resources by Rob Dietz and Dan O’Neill Paul Kingsnorth on Reversing Climate Change S2EP53 Ted Nordhaus on Reversing Climate Change EP100 The Breakthrough Institute Kim Stanley Robinson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP51 Novels by Ursula Le Guin Bernard Lietaer
01:12:04
April 13, 2021
S2E58: Oceans and climate, Waves and Beaches—w/ Kim McCoy, oceanographer and author
Few of us live at sea, so the ocean doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves in the climate conversation. But Kim McCoy contends that phytoplankton deserve just as much consideration as polar bears, and it’s time for us to understand how rising temperatures impact the water, the wind, the waves, and the weather. After all, we all live downstream of climate change. Kim is the oceanographer who updated Willard Bascom’s Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast, adding new insights around the impact of climate change. On this episode of the podcast, Kim joins Ross to discuss the impact of changing the amount of energy in a given system (i.e.: adding energy in the form of heat) and explain the relationship between changes in the atmosphere and changes in the ocean. Kim shares the scientific data around the increase in accumulated cyclone energy fueling Atlantic hurricanes and describes how private property is becoming public due to sea level rise. Listen in for Kim’s take on interventions like iron fertilization and solar radiation management and find out what we can do restore the health of the hydrologic cycle that connects us all! Connect with Ross Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on GitHub Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Nori White Paper Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast by Willard Bascom and Kim McCoy Books by John Kretschmer John Kretschmer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP33 John Martin’s Iron Hypothesis Running Tide Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change EP034 Brian Von Herzen’s RCC Bonus Episode on the Documentary 2040
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April 6, 2021
S2E57: Farming While Black: race and regenerative agriculture—w/ Leah Penniman of Soul Fire Farms
Regenerative agriculture is sometimes branded as a new idea. But the tradition of maintaining soil carbon and honoring the earth, of leaving the land better than we found it, has been part of indigenous traditions for thousands of years. So, what can we do to re-center the stories of Black and Native American growers and give credit where credit is due? Leah Penniman is the Co-Director and Farm Manager at Soul Fire Farm, an Afro-Indigenous-centered community farm committed to uprooting racism and seeding sovereignty in the food system. Leah has 20-plus years of experience as a soil steward and food sovereignty activist, and she is the author of Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Leah joins Ross and cohost Rebekah Carlson to explain George Washington Carver’s work pioneered modern regenerative agriculture—two decades prior to J.I. Rodale. Leah describes the work she has done to reclaim a connection with the land (beyond the oppression of slavery and sharecropping) and offers advice on reconnecting with your own indigenous roots. Listen in for Leah’s insight on the shift among Black Americans from rural to urban farming and learn how you can support Soul Fire Farm’s work to promote social and environmental justice. Connect with Ross & Rebekah Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book on club on Patreon Nori on Twitter Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Listen to our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Soul Fire Farm Soul Fire on Facebook Soul Fire on Instagram Soul Fire on Twitter Soul Fire on YouTube Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land by Leah Penniman ‘Why Farming Is an Act of Defiance for People of Color’ in Healthyish Owen Taylor on The Table Underground Podcast EP030 The Cooking Gene: A Journey Through African American Culinary History in the Old South by Michael W. Twitty The land-healing work of George Washington Carver at Grist Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II by Douglas A. Blackmon The Justice for Black Farmers Act
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March 30, 2021
S2E56: Celebrating your very own Climate Passover Seder—w/ Sarah Tuneberg of Geospiza
The Passover story is one of intense grief and loss as well as redemption and freedom. And while the Jews fled Egypt 3,000 years ago, many aspects of the story seem particularly relevant in a world plagued by extreme climate events and COVID-19. So, how might the events of Passover inform the way we think about climate change? Can we customize our Passover observances in a way that considers our responsibility to solve the climate crisis? Sarah Tuneberg is the CEO of Geospiza, a software company that helps cities and corporations take action around climate risk, and she spent 2020 leading the State of Colorado’s Coronavirus Innovation Response Team. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Sarah returns to explain the Jewish tradition of the Passover Seder and explore how it might be customized around the theme of climate change. Sarah walks us through the Seder meal, describing the inclusive nature of the service and the Jewish tradition of questioning that allows for reinterpretation of the Passover story. Listen in to understand how the idea of tikkun olam requires an active pursuit of social justice and learn how to incorporate climate elements in your Seder celebration this year. Connect with Ross Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Twitter Subscribe to Nori's newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Resources Sarah on Twitter Geospiza Sarah Tuneberg on Reversing Climate Change EP094 New American Haggadah by Jonathan Safran Foer Jonathan Safran Foer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP29 Jonathan Haidt Books by Amy-Jill Levine Greta Thunberg An Overview of the Story of Passover What to Expect at a Passover Seder
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March 23, 2021
S2E55: Gather: Reclaiming indigenous foodways—w/ Twila Cassadore, Nephi Craig, & Sammy Gensaw
There is a growing movement among Native Americans to reclaim their spiritual, cultural, and political identities. And restoring indigenous food practices is central to this work. The new documentary Gather follows several indigenous leaders as they work toward food sovereignty, demonstrating the hope and healing power of traditional food. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, three of the people featured in the film join Ross to discuss how they got involved in Gather and share their work around reclaiming indigenous foodways with the world. First, traditional food forager and educator Twila Cassadore explains the importance of food sovereignty in the context of her work with the Western Apache Diet Project. Then, Apache & Navajo restauranteur and executive chef Nephi Craig of Café Gozhóó describes his journey through classical French cuisine back to Native food, exploring the power of indigenous food practices in healing chemical dependency and generational grief. Finally, Yurok fisherman and Ancestral Guard founder Samuel Gensaw III offers insight on the Fish Wars of the 1970s and his ongoing fight to protect future generations through indigenous food. Listen in to understand why he believes indigenous values are key in sustaining life on earth and learn what you can do to support Twila, Nephi, and Sammy’s work. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Twitter Nori's newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Listen to our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Gather Documentary San Carlos Apache Tribe Western Apache Diet Project Tribal Food Sovereignty Advancement Initiative Twila Cassadore at the Quivir Coalition Café Gozhóó White Mountain Apache Tribe Sunrise Park Resort Nephi Craig on Instagram Nephi Craig on Facebook Native American Culinary Association Victorious Gardens Initiative Ancestral Guard on Instagram FishboneTradeCo Guardians of the River on YouTube The Fish Wars
01:31:35
March 16, 2021
S2E54: Survivorman in an age of climate trouble—w/ Les Stroud, survival expert
Extreme weather can cause desperate situations. So, what can survival experts teach us about navigating wildfires, hurricanes, flooding, and severe winter storms? Can we prepare for these natural events without turning into full-fledged preppers or giving into the assumption of doom? How do we adapt to a changing climate? Les Stroud is a filmmaker, musician, and author best known for Survivorman, the pioneering documentary series that launched Survival Television as a genre. He is also the author of the new children’s book Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivorman and the creator of the forthcoming PBS special Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Les joins Ross to share his mission around connecting people with nature and using film as an outlet to teach bushcraft and primitive earth skills. Les explains how his work is ‘changing into the future’ to help people adapt to climate change, stressing the general skills of resilience and ingenuity, and reminding us that the truth of survival is in community. Listen in to understand how Wild Outside encourages kids to have adventures in their own backyard (be it the back forty or an urban park) and learn how to prepare for natural events so that they don’t turn into disasters. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Resources Survivorman Les Stroud on YouTube Les Stroud’s Website Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivorman by Les Stroud Survive! Essential Skills and Tactics to Get You Out of Anywhere—Alive by Les Stroud with Michael Vlessides Les Stroud’s Wild Harvest Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud The 10 Bushcraft Books by Richard Graves Primitive Technology on YouTube Max Brooks Survivor Man on The Office Ray Mears Bush Tucker Man
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March 9, 2021
A jaunt to the climate crises of deep time—w/ Peter Brannen, author of The Ends of the World
A temperature rise of three or four degrees doesn’t seem like a big deal… Until you go back a few million years and start exploring what the world looked like the last time the Earth was that hot and CO2 levels were even higher than they are now. Peter Brannen is an award-winning science journalist. His work has appeared in The New York Times, WIRED and The Guardian, among many other national publications. He is also the author of The Ends of the World: Volcanic Apocalypses, Lethal Oceans, and Our Quest to Understand Earth’s Past Mass Extinctions. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross to discuss his most recent article in The Atlantic, ‘The Terrifying Warning Lurking in the Earth’s Ancient Rock Record.’  Peter explains what the planet was like during the Pliocene (the last time CO2 reached 400 PPM), the Miocene (500 PPM) and the Eocene (600-plus PPM), describing how rising levels of carbon dioxide might transform the Earth as we know it. Listen in for Peter’s insight on what an understanding of deep time can teach us about the impact climate change has on the planet and help us appreciate the difference three degrees can make. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's Patreon book club Nori's website Nori on Twitter Resources Peter’s Website ‘The Terrifying Warning Lurking in the Earth’s Ancient Rock Record’ in The Atlantic The Ends of the World: Volcanic Apocalypses, Lethal Oceans, and Our Quest to Understand Earth’s Past Mass Extinctions by Peter Brannen Peter on Reversing Climate Change EP087 David Grinspoon David Grinspoon on Reversing Climate Change: Geology Cage Match! The Sapiezoic vs. the Anthropocene—w/ Dr. David Grinspoon, astrobiologist David Grinspoon on Reversing Climate Change S1E47: 47: David Grinspoon, Astrobiologist The Long Thaw: How Humans Are Changing the Next 100,000 Years of Earth’s Climate by David Archer Jessica Tierney on Twitter Ted Scripps Fellowship Program ‘Atmospheric CO2: Principal Control Knob Governing Earth’s Temperature’ in Science Wallace Broecker
40:46
March 5, 2021
S2E53: Paul Kingsnorth on the shared roots of climate crisis, transhumanism, & immortality
Paul Kingsnorth is tired of talking about the scope of the climate crisis. In his view, we can’t fix climate change. But we can uncover the spiritual root of the problem and explore how we might live through it. Paul is the founder of The Dark Mountain Project and a prolific writer of poetry, fiction, and nonfiction. His latest release, the novel Alexandria, serves as the capstone of the acclaimed Buckmaster Trilogy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul joins Ross to discuss the connection Paul sees between transhumanism and the climate crisis, explaining what’s behind our ideology against limits and why he believes the mind and soul can’t live separate from the body. Paul shares his take on capitalism versus distributism, describing how systems of radical local democracy would root us in community and prevent the kind of scale that leads to tyranny. Listen in for Paul’s insight on the emptying of the will at the heart of most religious traditions and learn why he believes a connection with something greater than ourselves is key to effective activism. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori's book club on Patreon Nori's website Nori on Twitter Resources Paul’s Website The Dark Mountain Project Alexandria by Paul Kingsnorth Confessions of a Recovering Environmentalist and Other Essays by Paul Kingsnorth Savage Gods by Paul Kingsnorth Ronald Wright on The Progress Trap What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect by Roger Williams ‘The Immortal’ by Jorge Luis Borges Gnosticism Distributism Catholic Social Teaching Dorothy Day Rerum Novarum, papal encyclical by Pope Leo XIII The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo Tolstoy Hieromonk Gabriel on Orthodox Christianity and Politics God’s Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible by Adam Nicolson
01:17:12
March 2, 2021
What makes an online climate community work?—w/ Evan Hynes of Climatebase
In the new community economy, many content creators have moved beyond simply sharing ideas with an audience. For many the goal is to facilitate connection among their followers and foster a sense of belonging. So, how can businesses and organizations in the climate space leverage community to shape the low-carbon future we need? Evan Hynes is a Cofounder at Climatebase, a platform that makes it easy to discover jobs, people, and organizations working to solve the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Evan joins Ross to discuss how Climatebase has evolved into a professional network for the climate space, sharing his team’s mission to build a one-stop shop for climate opportunities. Evan explores the sense of belonging that comes from being a part of a few small, unique climate communities and challenges content creators to complement each other rather than compete for attention. Listen in for Evan’s insight on following a healthy ‘information diet’ and learn how you can contribute to the next iteration of the Climatebase community. Connect with Ross & Nori Join Nori's community and book club on Patreon Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on LinkedIn Our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Climatebase Climatebase Public Profiles Climatebase Fellowship Program Application Nori’s Job Opening on Climatebase Evan Hynes on Twitter Evan Hynes on Climatebase Slack Clubhouse Paul Gambill on Climatebase Evan Hynes on Reversing Climate Change in May 2020 My Climate Journey Air Miners The Business of Belonging: How to Make Community Your Competitive Advantage by David Spinks Allbirds ‘Dunder Mifflin Infinity’ on The Office Chris Sacca on Twitter Discord
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February 26, 2021
S2E52: Using captured carbon to make art—w/ Annalee Levin of Captured Carbon Studio
When artist Annalee Levin learned about carbon capture on the Reversing Climate Change podcast, the idea captured her imagination. Knowing that the technology exists to capture and store CO2 in concrete, for example, Annalee set out to find a way to make art out of materials containing captured carbon. Today, Annalee is the textile, hand embroidery, and sculpture artist behind Captured Carbon Studio, a space for exploring captured carbon as an art medium and avenue for educating the public about reversing climate change. She is also a chef-in-training, an experienced beekeeper and the first ever Artist-in-Residence at Carbon Upcycling Technologies. On this episode of the podcast, Annalee joins Ross to discuss her hands-on approach to making art and explain why she is drawn to physical, material crafts as opposed to other art forms. Annalee describes how she came to make crayons out of recycled CO2 and shares what she is trying to communicate by using captured carbon in her art. Listen in to understand how organic and industrial materials coexist within Annalee’s carbon removal aesthetic and learn how you can support her work or create your own art using tools that reverse climate change. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Twitter Resources Captured Carbon Studio Captured Carbon Studio on Instagram Annalee’s Website Annalee on Instagram Carbon Upcycling Technologies Lorraine Smith on Reversing Climate Change EP044 Royal School of Needlework San Francisco School of Needlework and Design Luis Merchan SkyBaron Carbon Upcycling Technologies on Reversing Climate Change EP078 Carbon XPRIZE Graphitic Nanoplatelets Annalee’s Carbon Crayons Annalee’s Carbon Worry Stone On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen by Harold McGee Alton Brown Jacques Pepin Maillard Reaction Samin Nosrat Nori Book Club Carbon Upcycling Pen-100 Nurdles & Talc Carbon Upcycling Enhanced Fly Ash
01:00:19
February 23, 2021
S2E51: Kim Stanley Robinson chats The Ministry for the Future, blockchain, & macroeconomics
12 years ago, Nori cofounder and CEO Paul Gambill was a College Republican. And while he wasn’t a climate denier, he didn’t think that humanity’s 1% contribution to global CO2 emissions was a big deal. And then he read Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy and began to understand the outsized impact of our actions. Not only did the science fiction novels change Paul’s perspective on climate change, they inspired him to dedicate his life’s work to making it better. American novelist Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the foremost living writers of science fiction. Many of his books explore how climate change will impact us in the coming decades, including the new release (and self-described mic drop moment) The Ministry for the Future. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Stan joins Ross and Paul to discuss how science fiction can help us make better decisions and share his perspective on the politics of the genre. Stan explains why central banks play such a prominent role in his most recent work, introducing us to the financial system he imagines in his future history novels and sharing his ‘creeping reformist’ approach to building an economy around carbon removal. Listen in for Stan’s insight on why cryptocurrency is featured in his new book and learn how carbon sequestration might work within the framework of modern monetary theory. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join the Nori book club on Patreon Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Resources There are so many things referenced in this show. When Anchor ups its character limit for show descriptions we will go back and add them all. Here's a curated list: Stan’s Website The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson J.G. Ballard Frederic Jameson Georgy Plekhanov Raymond Williams Ernst Bloch Louis Althusser Ursula K. Le Guin Iain Banks’ Culture Series Ghosts of My Life: Writings on Depression, Hauntology and Lost Futures by Mark Fisher The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction by John Clute and Peter Nicholls Delton Chen’s Carbon Coin Plan Socialist Calculation Debate
01:37:20
February 16, 2021
S2E50: Under a White Sky: Elizabeth Kolbert's new book on humanity's ecological & climate interventions
There is a new pattern emerging in humanity’s long, complicated relationship with nature. Namely, we’re at a point where the problems we’ve caused by intervening in our environment require interventions of their own. But in a world where we can’t fully anticipate the impact of our actions, should we be optimistic about using new technology to solve crises created by the old? Elizabeth Kolbert is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Sixth Extinction. Her latest book is called Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Elizabeth joins Ross and Christophe to explain how a reporting trip to see a super coral project inspired Under a White Sky and describe how the book is structured on a continuum—from small, regional interventions to more controversial, global strategies for solving the problems we’ve caused. Elizabeth walks us through several of the interventions introduced in the book, including an electrified river in Chicago, efforts to gene edit toxic cane toads, and a promising coral sex engineering project. Listen in for Elizabeth’s insight on the ethical concerns associated with interventions like CRISPR technology and solar radiation management and learn how she thinks about doubling down on our efforts to control the natural world. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Elizabeth’s Website Elizabeth at The New Yorker Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future by Elizabeth Kolbert The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History by Elizabeth Kolbert Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change by Elizabeth Kolbert Josiah Zayner Dr. Mark Tizard Dr. Klaus Lackner at the Center for Negative Carbon Emissions The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson The Leopard by Giuseppe di Lampedusa Steward Brand Paul Kingsnorth David Remnick and Harry Finder on Reversing Climate Change S2EP37
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February 9, 2021
Grist's intersectional climate fiction contest—w/ Tory Stephens of Fix, the Grist solutions lab
Making art about climate is useful in that it reaches a part of the brain that science does not. And climate fiction as a genre gives us a way to get the climate conversation started. Better yet, cli-fi that focuses on solutions might actually help us find a way forward. Tory Stephens is the New England Network Weaver at Fix, the Grist Solutions Lab. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Tory joins Ross and cohost Jess Miles to discuss the launch of his team’s new climate fiction contest, Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors and explain what differentiates his team’s writing contest from others of its kind. Tory offers insight around climate fiction and the subgenres of solarpunk and hopepunk, challenging writers to create intersectional, solutions-focused work. Listen in for an overview of Imagine 2200’s submission guidelines and learn how fiction might offer a pathway out of the climate crisis. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Resources Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors ‘We’re Launching a Fiction Contest’ on Grist Fix Solutions Lab The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory by Brian Greene The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson The Road by Cormac McCarthy ‘Hopepunk, the Latest Storytelling Trend, Is All About Weaponized Optimism’ in Vox Nnedi Okorafor Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor Black Panther A Conspiracy of Stars by Olivia A. Cole Jess Miles on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12
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February 5, 2021
S2E49: At the feet of a modern hermit—w/ Markus Torgeby, author of Under the Open Skies
In modern society, we’re conditioned to believe that acquiring more stuff makes our lives better. But what if getting back to basics leads to a richer life? What if consuming less and connecting with nature more opens us up to what really matters? Markus Torgeby is the author of Under the Open Skies: Finding Peace and Health in Nature. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Markus joins Ross to explain how he came to live alone in the forest of Northern Sweden and describe how stripping life down to the basic needs helped him identify what was truly important and heal from trauma. Markus shares his take on technology, discussing how to gauge how much screen time is right for you (and help your kids do the same). Listen in for insight on living a richer life by consuming less and get Markus’ advice on taking small steps to build your own deep relationship with nature. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on GitHub Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Nori White Paper Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Under the Open Skies: Finding Peace and Health in Nature by Markus Torgeby and Frida Torgeby Desert Fathers Soren Kierkegaard Ingmar Bergman Wendell Berry Dialogues of Plato by Plato Peter Kalmus Walden by Henry David Thoreau Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer
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February 2, 2021
Climate fintech, neobanks, & banking for good—w/ Ravi Mikkelsen, cofounder of ATMOS
Did you know that Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citi are among the biggest funders of fossil fuel projects in the world? Would you rather leverage your money to fight climate change? What if you could move your money to an entity that builds its lending portfolio around things like clean energy, regenerative agriculture, and direct air capture? Ravi Mikkelsen is the Cofounder of ATMOS Financial, a digital banking solution dedicated to funding a rapid transition to the clean economy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ravi joins Ross to discuss the growing cohort of impact companies at the intersection of climate and FinTech and explain how neobanks like ATMOS fit into the ecosystem. Ravi shares the market research around why consumers choose a bank, challenging us to consider what kinds of projects our financial institution funds and how big banks might transition their lending portfolios away from fossil fuels. Listen in for insight around the benefits of banking with ATMOS and find out why you don’t have to sacrifice user experience or pay more to do the right thing. George Bailey for the win! Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources ATMOS Financial ATMOS on Twitter ATMOS on Facebook ATMOS on Instagram ATMOS on LinkedIn Email ravi@joinatmos.com ATMOS Nonprofit Partners Arcadia Power It’s a Wonderful Life Prisoner’s Dilemma
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February 1, 2021
S2E48: Damn the Absolute! On pragmatism and climate change—w/ Jeffrey Howard, Editor-in-Chief of Erraticus
The climate conversation is riddled with ideological battles. There are those who think climate change is the most pressing issue of our time pitted against those who don’t think it’s a big deal (if it’s even real). There are fights over ecological versus industrial forms of carbon removal. And there are those who believe that climate change can be reversed, while others have little hope that humanity will stick the landing. So, how do we move past these absolutist views and inspire action to solve the problem? Jeffrey Howard is the Editor-in-Chief at Erraticus and the host of the Damn the Absolute! podcast. Both platforms take a pragmatic approach to ideas, challenging dogma, fundamentalism and ideological hubris. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jeffrey joins Ross to introduce the principles of pragmatism as a discrete philosophical school of thought, describing the intellectual context from which it emerged and how the philosophy seeks to reconcile the competing camps of Rationalism and Empiricism. Jeffrey explores how a pragmatic approach might break logjams in the climate conversation, explaining how pragmatists balance building an inclusive community of inquirers with taking action to solve problems in the real world. Listen in to understand how a pragmatist thinks about a climate solution like carbon capture and learn how pragmatism addresses our lived challenges, encouraging us to hold our views with humility as we work to improve life for all people. Connect with Ross: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources: Too many things referenced for this episode! Will fix this in the future. In the meantime, here is a truncated portion: Erraticus Damn the Absolute! Podcast Jeffrey Howard on Reversing Climate Change EP107 Sick Souls, Healthy Minds: How William James Can Save Your Life by John Kaag Pragmatism: A New Name for Some Old Ways of Thinking by William James William James Subsistence Agriculture in the US: Reconnecting to Work, Nature and Community by Ashley Colby On Richard Rorty on Damn the Absolute! EP001 Toward a Politics of Uncertainty on Damn the Absolute! EP002 David O’Hara on Damn the Absolute! EP007
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January 26, 2021
S2E47: Being a "witness" to climate change—w/ Dr. Evan Kuehn of North Park University
What does it mean to be a witnessing professional in the climate crisis? What responsibility do scientists, doctors, journalists, lawyers, military officers and public health officials have to speak out and share their message of truth with the world? How does the religious concept of bearing witness translate to this secular context? And what can you and I do to become constructive witnesses for climate change? Dr. Evan Kuehn is an Assistant Professor of Informational Literacy at North Park University and the author of Troeltsch’s Eschatological Absolute and Theology Compromised: Schleiermacher, Troeltsch, and the Possibility of a Sociological Theology. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Kuehn joins Ross to discuss the recent Dædalus issue on Witnessing Climate Change, describing what it means to be a witness, how the concept shifts from a sacred to a secular context, and what risks are associated with witnessing in public as a professional. Dr. Kuehn explores Robert Socolow’s idea of witnessing for the middle to depolarize the climate conversation, explaining what it looks like to engage in situational ethics and sharing how he deals with extreme views and guillotine memes. Listen in for Dr. Kuehn’s insight around the Jewish tradition of preserving social criticism and learn what you can do to be a middle builder and serve as a constructive witness for climate change. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Join Nori on Patreon Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Resources: There are so many things referenced in this episode and not much space to add them all here unfortunately. If Anchor ups their character cap we will add them all back in. N.B. Ross couldn't remember at the time of recording which scholar provided that insight about Jewish scripture preserving social criticism in this episode, but is pretty sure it came from Amy-Jill Levine, and most likely her Great Courses lecture series on the Old Testament. Dr. Evan Kuehn on Reversing Climate Change Bonus Episode We’re Doomed. Now What? Essays on War and Climate Change by Roy Scranton What Is the Bible? How an Ancient Library of Poems, Letters, and Stories Can Transform the Way You Think and Feel About Everything by Rob Bell Proverbs 26:4-5 ‘What is the Social Responsibility of Climate Scientists?’ by Naomi Oreskes ‘Witnessing for the Middle to Depolarize the Climate Change Conversation’ by Robert H. Socolow
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January 19, 2021
S2E46: Ecosystem restoration on a planetary scale—w/ John D. Liu, scientist & filmmaker
How do you restore an entire ecosystem at scale? Eroded desertified landscapes: can they be healed? Journalist, filmmaker, and environmental educator John D. Liu is the Ecosystem Ambassador for the Commonland Foundation and Founder of the Ecosystem Restoration Camps Movement. He is best-known for his documentaries on the restoration of the Loess Plateau, like Hope in a Changing Climate and Green Gold. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how human activity caused the degradation of the Loess Plateau, describing how it went from being one of the most beautiful places on Earth to a barren landscape where the poorest Chinese people lived. John discusses what made the Loess Plateau restoration so successful, offering insight around how the Chinese government engaged the people there and how the project design balances functional space for agriculture with land dedicated to natural regeneration. Listen in to understand how John thinks about restoring inherently complex ecosystems and learn how you can get involved in John’s work to transform our economy and facilitate ecosystem restoration all over the world. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Resources: The Weather Makers ‘The Holy Grail of Restoration: Mending the Sinai Peninsula’ in Kosmos Journal John’s Academia Page John on Twitter The Great Work of Our Time Documentary on Large-Scale Ecosystem Restoration World Bank Story on the Loess Plateau Restoration Presencing Institute Theory U International Union for the Conservation of Nature Rothamsted Research Institute University of the West of England Netherlands Institute of Ecology Elinor Ostrom Kyoto Protocol Kate Raworth Paul Kingsnorth Wendell Berry Willem Ferwerda John F. Nash
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January 12, 2021
S2E45: Synthetic biology & the holy grail of ag—w/ Mike Miille, CEO of Joyn Bio
Much of agriculture depends upon synthetic fertilizer. But the production of that fertilizer is responsible for 3% of greenhouse gas emissions. That’s why innovators in the emerging field of synthetic biology are attempting to disrupt the status quo in agriculture and engineer new ways for growers to achieve the same yields with less fertilizer—and less environmental impact. Mike Miille is the CEO of Joyn Bio, a biotech company that is using synthetic biology to try to make agriculture more sustainable. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mike joins Ross and Rebekah to explain how his team is engineering microbes to address unmet needs in agriculture and what differentiates synthetic biology from classical breeding or GMOs. Mike introduces us to Joyn Bio’s work in designing nitrogen-fixing corn (the potential holy grail), responding to the argument that our system of monoculture isn’t worth saving and the concerns around scaling innovations in synthetic biology. Listen in to understand how Mike thinks about the unknowns of designing new organisms and learn about the other potentially game-changing advancements in ag that Mike’s team is working on right now. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Resources: Joyn Bio Joyn Bio on LinkedIn Joyn Bio on Twitter Leaps by Bayer Ginkgo Bioworks Thomas Knight at MIT Carl Sagan’s Cosmos The Haber-Bosch Process Norman Borlaug
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January 5, 2021
S2E44: Can permaculture scale?—w/ Mark Shepard, author of Restoration Agriculture
We have destroyed or severely disrupted many of the perennial ecosystems that were here in favor of annual crops. Crops that require the use of herbicide and mulch year after year until, eventually, the soil is depleted and we move on. So, how can we use the design principles of permaculture to restore the ecology of the planet, provide ourselves with all the food, fuels and fibers we need, and make money while we’re at it? And at scale no less! Agroforestry farmer and permaculturist Mark Shepard is the CEO of Forest Agriculture Enterprises, Founder of Restoration Agriculture Development, and award-winning author of Restoration Agriculture: Real-World Permaculture for Farmers. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mark joins Ross and Christophe to share his understanding of permaculture, explaining how he applies its principles in a way that allows for scale and designs practical systems around the individual farmer’s machinery. Mark introduces us to his idea of STUN agriculture (Strategic Total Utter Neglect), describing how nature solves every problem farmers have—at no cost and with very little effort. Listen in for insight on where science falls short in supporting the transition to restoration agriculture and learn how we can leverage permaculture to build economies around ecologically-designed systems. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori on Patreon Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom Nori on Medium Resources Restoration Agriculture: Real-World Permaculture for Farmers by Mark Shepard Water for Any Farm by Mark Shepard New Forest Farm Forest Agriculture Enterprises Restoration and Agriculture Development Mark on Acres USA Bill Mollison David Holmgren Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture by J. Russell Smith The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming by Masanobu Fukuoka Pawpaw: In Search of America’s Forgotten Fruit by Andrew Moore
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December 22, 2020
S2E43: Salmon, the Earth, & their common fate—w/ Mark Kurlansky, author
There are only 1.5M Atlantic salmon left in the world. And despite putting an end to commercial fishing, their numbers continue to dwindle. As a keystone species, the implications of their loss go far beyond not being able to order salmon for dinner. So, why are Atlantic salmon disappearing at such an alarming rate? What does their loss mean for other species? And how does it impact the rivers where they live? Mark Kurlansky is a New York Times bestselling and James A. Beard award-winning author with a knack for seeing the broader implications of seemingly little things. He has written 33 books in all, including The Big Oyster: History on the Half Shell, Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World and most recently, Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of Their Common Fate. His forthcoming book, The Unreasonable Virtue of Fly Fishing is due out in March of 2021. On this episode of the podcast, Mark joins Ross to share what inspired him to choose salmon as the topic of his most recent book and explain why climate change is catastrophic for the fish. He weighs in on the problems with salmon farming (be it inland or on the water) and discusses why hatcheries are not a viable way to enhance the salmon population. Listen in for Mark’s insight on how the disappearance of Atlantic salmon will impact other species and learn how to be a conscious consumer of the popular fish. Connect with Nori: Nori on Patreon Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Resources: Mark Kurlansky’s Website Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of Their Common Fate by Mark Kurlansky Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World by Mark Kurlansky Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky Paper: Paging Through History by Mark Kurlansky The Basque History of the World: The Story of a Nation by Mark Kurlansky A River Runs Through It by Norman Maclean
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December 15, 2020
S2E42: The national security implications of climate change—w/ Dr. Rod Schoonover
We have explored, at length, the basket of biophysical stressors climate change could produce. And we’ve looked at how floods, droughts, tropical cyclones, ocean acidification, coral degradation (and the list goes on and on) might impact our food security and lead to the displacement of a lot of people. But what does the climate crisis mean for national security? How does the intelligence community think about climate change? Dr. Rod Schoonover is a member of The Center for Climate & Security Advisory Board. He is also the Founder and CEO of the Ecological Futures Group, and an Adjunct Professor in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. He served in the US Intelligence Community for ten years as the Director of Environment and Natural Resources at the National Intelligence Council and Senior Analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the US Department of State. On this episode, Dr. Schoonover joins Ross to discuss the foreign policy goals of the US and share his concerns around the current administration’s failure to call out anti-democratic values. He explains how the suppression of his written testimony for the House Intelligence Committee regarding the national security implications of climate change led to his resignation from the State Department. Listen in for Dr. Schoonover’s insight on what the US government should do to address the climate crisis and learn what could happen (from a security perspective) if we don’t take action on climate change. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori on Patreon Resources: Climate & Security Podcast The National Intelligence Council’s 2016 Report: Implications for US National Security of Anticipated Climate Change Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research Dr. Schoonover’s June 2019 Testimony for the House Intelligence Committee ‘White House Tried to Stop Climate Science Testimony, Documents Show’ in The New York Times Dr. Schoonover’s June 2019 Statement for the Record on the National Security Implications of Climate Change Dr. Schoonover’s Op-Ed in The New York Times Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Matthew Yglesias on Reversing Climate Change S2EP35 All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare Sea Power: The History and Geopolitics of the World’s Oceans by Admiral James Stavridis, USN (Ret.)
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December 8, 2020
How do you tell a good story about the climate?—w/ Jess Miles, writer
The vast majority of environmental nonfiction follows a predictable pattern: The writer goes out in nature and then tells us why it’s important to preserve the thing they experienced. But what if we could reach more people and maybe even change their point of view with a more experimental, more whimsical approach? Jess Miles is a recent graduate of Chatham University and author of the MFA thesis ‘Midnight Sun,’ a collection of essays about her time on the Arctic island of Svalbard. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jess joins Ross to explain what inspired her to pursue science communication, sharing what she does to persuade readers and how she approaches environmental writing differently. Jess opens up about her frustrating experience with canvassing for an environmental organization, describing what she learned about people (and herself!) and how she turned that bad experience into good writing. Listen in to understand why Jess incorporates elements of whimsy in her work and learn how experimental forms of writing can help readers see climate issues in a new light. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Sadly, too many books referenced and character-capped! Sorry about that, listener! Sunvault: Stories of Solarpunk and Eco-Speculation edited by Phoebe Wagner and Brontë Christopher Wieland ‘Hopepunk and Solarpunk: On Climate Narratives That Go Beyond the Apocalypse’ on Lit Hub Arizona State Center for Science and the Imagination After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Her The Road Jonathan Safran Foer on RCC S2EP29 Books by Gabriel García Márquez Climate Fiction on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12 Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor Who’s Saving the Planet? Podcast Jess’ Blog on VR and Animal Rights
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December 4, 2020
S2E41: Climeworks & European carbon removal—w/ Christoph Beuttler, CDR Manager at Climeworks
For years now, we have debated the potential moral hazard of carbon removal, the fear being that we will abandon emissions reductions for the quick fix of carbon capture. But the science is clear: we simply can’t achieve our climate goals with mitigation alone. So, how do we design policy that works toward net zero using a binding emissions reduction pathway AND a strategy for scaling up carbon removal? Christoph Beuttler is the CDR Manager at Climeworks, the global leader in direct air capture technology. He also serves as the Deputy CEO of The Risk Dialogue Foundation and Founding Member of the Board for the Negative Emissions Platform. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christoph joins Ross to discuss Climeworks’ modular approach to direct air capture, describing how they use solid sorbents to capture carbon dioxide and how that CO2 is either stored permanently or used to replace fossil inputs. Christoph shares his understanding of carbon removal regulations in Europe, explaining how EU businesses interact with policy and why companies are driving voluntary carbon removal markets.  Listen in for insight around the future of the carbon removal sector as a whole and learn how you can help Climeworks realize its audacious goal to achieve gigaton scale in the next two decades! Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Climeworks Climeworks Web Shop Negative Emissions Platform Will Direct Air Capture Be Centralized or Distributed? on Carbon Removal Newsroom DOE Funding Carbon Removal Projects on Carbon Removal Newsroom Klaus Lackner’s Moisture Swing Sorbent California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard 45Q Credit for Carbon Oxide Sequestration Paris Agreement Microsoft Sustainability  Shopify Environment Stripe Climate ‘Europe’s Climate Goal: Revolution’ in Politico Climeworks’ Orca DAC Plant Carbon180 Climeworks’ Direct Air Capture Summit 2020 Brian von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change (Bonus)
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December 1, 2020
S2E40: Much talk of CO2, but what about methane?!—w/ Olya Irzak of Frost Methane
Carbon dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. In fact, methane emissions are responsible for 16% of the warming we experience today. And because methane is more potent than CO2, we can make a big impact in a short period of time by addressing the concentrated, continuous methane seeps that exist around the world. Olya Irzak is the Founder and CEO of Frost Methane, a company working to combat climate change through the deployment of remote methane destruction devices. On this episode of the podcast, Olya joins Ross and Christophe to discuss why she chose to focus on methane emissions and explain how her team’s technology works to convert concentrated methane into CO2. Olya describes Frost Methane’s initial work with Arctic permafrost and introduces their new application of the technology in coal mines, sharing how the business generates revenue through carbon markets like California’s cap-and-trade market.  Listen in for Olya’s insight on the benefits of voluntary markets and learn her approach to prioritizing climate interventions to make the biggest impact. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Frost Methane Frost Methane on LinkedIn Olya on LinkedIn ARPA-E Energy Innovation Summit Center for Negative Carbon Emissions Google’s Climate Change Initiative ‘7,000 Underground Gas Bubbles Poised to Explode in Arctic’ in The Siberian Times Video of Exploding Under-Ice Methane Gas in Siberia Laughlin Barker Pleistocene Park Pleistocene Park on Reversing Climate Change EP073 Dr. Leslie Field Ice 911 ASU’s Arctic Ice Management Project University of Beijing Research on Calving Silver Lining ‘Sometimes Success Is Right Under Your Feet, As Tomato Grower Knows’ in AP News California’s Cap-and-Trade Program Carbon Offsetting and Reduction Scheme for International Aviation Stripe Climate
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November 24, 2020
Brian von Herzen returns to chat marine permaculture & the documentary 2040
The feature documentary 2040 poses this question: What would the world look like in 2040 if we embraced the best climate solutions already available to us? One such solution involves restoring ocean ecosystems through marine permaculture, a strategy that leverages kelp forests to drawdown CO2. Dr. Brian von Herzen serves as the Executive Director of the Climate Foundation, the organization using marine permaculture to regenerate life in seas and soils with the goal of reversing climate change in our lifetime. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Brian returns to the show to discuss his appearance in 2040 and explain what the Climate Foundation is working on now as they shift from R&D to building an industry. Brian introduces us to the fundamentals of marine permaculture, exploring its capacity to regenerate life in the ocean and feed billions of people in the process. Listen in for insight on becoming an ocean entrepreneur and learn about the potential for marine permaculture to drawdown carbon (at a remarkably low cost) and move us from fear to love—one kelp forest at a time. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Climate Foundation Email info@climatefoundation.org Brian on Reversing Climate Change EP034 2040 Damon Gameau Drawdown Seattle The Art of Asking: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help by Amanda Palmer Minter Ellison Books by Bill Mollison David Holmgren Permaculture Design Principles The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming by Masanobu Fukuoka The Intrepid Foundation The University of Tasmania’s Permaculture Research C-Combinator David King’s Piece on Climate Change Intervention in The Washington Post My Octopus Teacher on Netflix The Seasteading Institute
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November 20, 2020
S2E39: The cost of climate repair vs. COVID-19—w/ Sir David King & Rick Parnell
Solving the climate crisis is challenging because it requires both dramatic behavioral change and a great deal of capital. And yet, when faced with a global health crisis, governments were willing to enact multitrillion-dollar aid packages and people radically shifted their behavior in a matter of weeks. So, what if we mobilized against climate change similarly to the way we responded to the coronavirus? Sir David King is the former Chief Scientific Advisor to the Government of the United Kingdom and Rick Parnell is the CEO of the Foundation for Climate Restoration. Together, they coauthored The Washington Post piece, ‘Stopping Climate Change Could Cost Less Than Fighting COVID-19.’ On this episode of the podcast, Sir David and Rick join Ross to discuss the opportunity governments have to invest in climate repair as we rebuild our economies in the aftermath of the global pandemic. Sir David and Rick compare the economic impact of reversing climate change with that of COVID, describing the catastrophic consequences of rising sea levels and explaining what Europe, China, and the US are doing to both reduce emissions and scale direct air capture technologies.  Listen in to understand why the countries that took the advice of scientists fared well in the pandemic and how we might learn from their example to respond to the climate crisis. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on GitHub Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Nori White Paper Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources: Foundation for Climate Restoration Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge University Rick on Carbon Removal Newsroom ‘Stopping Climate Change Could Cost Less Than Fighting COVID-19’ in The Washington Post The Thunderbird Study on Market Opportunities in Climate Restoration Sir David’s 2006 Pandemic Prediction
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November 17, 2020
S2E38: Carbon-negative carpet?! How Interface trailblazes—w/ Erin Meezan, VP & Chief Sustainability Officer of Interface, Inc.
The scale of the climate crisis requires that companies change the way they operate. Yes, it would be easier to simply purchase carbon offsets and continue to do business as usual. But if we are going to succeed in reversing climate change, companies must take the next step and transform their processes from cradle to gate (or even grave if they can!) So, how does a business get started on the path to sustainability? Erin Meezan is the Vice President and Chief Sustainability Officer at Interface, Inc., a pioneering modular flooring company with a deep commitment to sustainability. Interface is also the recipient of a 2020 UN Global Climate Action Award and the subject of the new documentary Beyond Zero. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Erin joins Ross to explain what inspired Interface’s commitment to the environment and how the team approached the sustainability conversation with its investors early on. Erin discusses the company’s recent launch of carbon-negative carpet tiles, walking us through the value associated with doing business more sustainably and the necessity of conducting a full life cycle assessment of a given product.  Listen in to understand how Interface is influencing other businesses to make fundamental change and learn how YOUR company might take its first steps to sustainability! Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources Interface, Inc. Erin on LinkedIn Erin on Twitter Interface’s Climate Take Back Mission The Ecology of Commerce: A Declaration of Sustainability by Paul Hawken Paul Hawken FLOR Aquafil Buy Clean California CarbonCure on Reversing Climate Change S2EP16 2020 UN Global Climate Action Awards Beyond Zero Interface’s Lessons Learned Report Confessions of a Radical Industrialist: Profits, People, Purpose—Doing Business by Respecting the Earth by Ray C. Anderson with Robin White
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November 10, 2020
S2E37: The New Yorker's new climate anthology, The Fragile Earth—w/ coeditors David Remnick & Henry Finder
People resist reading about climate change because it seems less immediate than other pressing issues. Add to that the fact that the climate crisis doesn’t lend itself to narrative. So, then, how do you tell an ‘untellable story’ in a way that draws readers in and effectively reorients the way they see the world? Henry Finder and David Remnick are the coeditors of The Fragile Earth: Writing from The New Yorker on Climate Change. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Henry and David join Ross to explain what inspired the creation of this new anthology, discussing how they made decisions regarding what pieces to include and what makes writing about climate change such a distinct challenge. Henry and David weigh in on their work as editorial director and editor at The New Yorker, sharing the process they use to conceive of and manage new projects and describing the magazine’s ongoing commitment to long-form writing.  Listen in to understand how optimistic Henry and David are about our ability to address the climate crisis and learn how The Fragile Earth tells the story of climate change through pieces by Bill McKibben, Elizabeth Kolbert, and Jonathan Franzen, among many others. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Resources The Fragile Earth: Writing from The New Yorker on Climate Change edited by David Remnick and Henry Finder The New Yorker David Remnick at The New Yorker Lenin’s Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire by David Remnick The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama by David Remnick The New Yorker Radio Hour The End of Nature by Bill McKibben Elizabeth Kolbert Elizabeth Kolbert at The New Yorker Bill McKibben on Reversing Climate Change EP095 Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change by Elizabeth Kolbert The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History by Elizabeth Kolbert ‘Lake Chad: The World’s Most Complex Humanitarian Disaster’ in The New Yorker Jonathan Franzen’s Piece on Antarctica
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November 3, 2020
S2E36: YIMBY for forest fires? Fire tornadoes?!—w/ Daniel Duane, author of November's WIRED cover story
Prior to 2020, the largest number of acres burned by wildfire in California was 1.3M. Compare that to the 4M acres wiped out by fire this year. What’s more, forest fires are spreading much more quickly and releasing more heat—which leads to last-minute evacuations, a dramatic increase of smoke in the air, and the phenomenon of fire tornados. Daniel Duane is the surfer, naturalist, and author behind this month’s WIRED cover story, ‘The West’s Infernos Are Melting Our Sense of How Fire Works.’ On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Daniel explains why the 2020 fire season is so remarkable and how an accumulating fuel bed on the forest floor contributes to the intensity and severity of the wildfires. He offers insight on indigenous fire management, describing when the anti-burning culture took hold in America and how political pressures make it impossible for our government agencies to manage forests well. Daniel goes on to introduce us to the terrifying phenomenon of a fire tornado, sharing how forest management practices and climate change are both to blame for the increasingly unpredictable, record-breaking wildfires we experience. Listen in for Daniel’s take on what kind of management practices we need to decrease our risk and find out how a pro-development, YIMBY movement could prevent destructive forest fires in the future. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Resources: ‘The West’s Infernos Are Melting Our Sense of How Fire Works’ in WIRED Daniel’s Website Daniel on Twitter Books by Daniel Duane Daniel at WIRED Daniel at Outside Magazine US Forest Service Charles C. Mann on Reversing Climate Change S2EP15 M. Kat Anderson Tending the Wild: Native American Knowledge and the Management of California’s Natural Resources by M. Kat Anderson University of California Forestry Department Brandon Collins The Sagehen Experimental Forest CAL FIRE
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October 27, 2020
On losing everything to the climate crisis except for hope—w/ Diego Saez-Gil of Pachama
“Life does not subtract things; it liberates you from them. It makes you lighter so that you can fly higher and reach the fullness.” --Facundo Cabral Losing your home to a forest fire is a lesson in impermanence and nonattachment. And while Diego Saez-Gil is still processing the loss, he is using the experience as a catalyst, reaffirming his commitment to the pursuit of climate solutions. Diego is the founder and CEO of Pachama, a tech company that leverages AI to drive carbon capture and validate the progress of forest restoration projects for carbon markets, and author of the Medium article, "On Losing Everything to the Climate Crisis, Except for Hope." On this bonus episode of the podcast, Diego joins Ross to discuss how losing his home to a forest fire has given him renewed energy around his work and made him more of a minimalist than ever before. Diego explains how both climate change and poor forest management practices are to blame for 2020’s devastating forest fires, speaking to the permanence issues surrounding ecological methods of sequestering carbon and how carbon markets can make reforestation for carbon sequestration economically viable. Listen in for insight on the success of Pachama’s recent fundraising efforts and learn how you can help protect our global forests by joining Diego’s team. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Resources: Pachama Apply to Work at Pachama Diego on Reversing Climate Change EP104 Diego’s Medium Article ‘On Losing Everything to the Climate Crisis, Except for Hope’ US Bureau of Land Management US Forest Service Stripe’s Negative Emissions Commitment Breakthrough Energy Ventures Serena Ventures Scott Belsky Tobi Lutke Amazon’s Climate Pledge Pachama’s Blog Welcoming New Investors
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October 23, 2020
S2E35: Matthew Yglesias tells us why climate people should root for One Billion Americans
Can you advocate for climate solutions and dramatic population growth at the same time? Or are the two ideas mutually exclusive? Matthew Yglesias argues that while electoral politics is a zero-sum game, policy is not. And any two priorities can be reconciled to craft a win-win, provided both sides accept the premise that we need to take action on climate change. Matthew Yglesias is the cofounder of Vox, host of The Weeds Podcast, journalist and author of the national bestseller, One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross and Paul to discuss the premise of his book, explaining why it’s crucial for the US to grow its population and commit to keeping our #1 status in the world. He shares his liberal approach to this conservative idea, describing how immigration makes us stronger and what we can do to support families with children. Matthew goes on to offer insight on the dysfunction of American federalism, discussing how a shared goal would create more constructive politics, and why it’s shortsighted to invoke climate change as an argument against population growth. Listen in for Matthew’s take on why we need right of center solutions to climate change and learn how we can prioritize both population growth and climate solutions in a way that moves America forward. Nori on Patreon Vox Matthew on Vox The Weeds Podcast One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger by Matthew Yglesias The Idea of a European Superstate by Glyn Morgan Bryan Caplan on Reversing Climate Change S2EP2 Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration by Bryan Caplan ‘Made in Hollywood, Censored by Beijing’ in PEN America Wendell Berry Dorothy Day Brad Plumer at The New York Times Green New Deal Matthew on Conversations with Tyler EP104 Getting to Yes: How to Negotiate Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama David Roberts on Reversing Climate Change S2EP3 Benji Backer on Reversing Climate Change EP074 Bob Inglis on Reversing Climate Change EP086
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October 20, 2020
VERGE 20 is going virtual! See you there!—w/ Jim Giles, Conference Chair of VERGE Food & VERGE Carbon
In the past, conferences addressing market solutions to the climate crisis were attended by professionals with ‘sustainability’ in their titles. But we’ve begun to realize that sustainability is everyone’s responsibility, and the audience has expanded. In fact, this year’s VERGE 20 (register at this link with Nori's 15% off discount code) is more accessible than ever, welcoming anyone who’s interested to learn more about sustainable food systems and carbon removal. Jim Giles is the Conference Chair of VERGE Food and VERGE Carbon at GreenBiz. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Jim joins Ross to discuss the upcoming GreenBiz conference, VERGE 20, sharing some of the notable sessions and speakers on topics like purchasing carbon offsets and scaling regenerative agriculture. Jim explains how VERGE will look different this year, describing how his team has pivoted to a virtual format, and what they are doing to recreate 1:1 connections among the 10K projected attendees! Listen in for insight around the growing interest in sustainability and find out how YOU can be a part of the VERGE 20 online conference. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources VERGE 20 VERGE 20 Nori Discount Link GreenBiz Events Jim Giles on Carbon Removal Newsroom Jim’s Food Weekly Newsletter VERGE 20 Accelerate Solidia Jonathan Goldberg Carbon Direct Anna Escuer Google Sustainability Google’s Recent Climate Commitments Announcement Robyn O’Brien rePlant Capital Steele Lorenz Farmers Business Network Hopin Circularity 20
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October 15, 2020
S2E34: How Nori works with farmers–w/ Rebekah Carlson, Nori's Agriculture Supply Lead
One of the beauties of regenerative agriculture is that it revisits traditional land stewardship practices and can leverage innovation to apply those principles on a broader scale. To that end, the team at Nori is scaling its efforts to reward farmers for the carbon they sequester in the process. But we need to expand our team to make it happen! Rebekah Carlson is the Agriculture Supply Lead here at Nori, where she combines her experience in agronomy, soil science, and crop modeling to effectively enroll farmers into the Nori marketplace. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Rebekah joins Ross to discuss the fundamentals of agronomy, explaining how her experience as a crop consultant informs her work at Nori. Rebekah describes how Nori leverages feedback from farmers to streamline the enrollment process, adding the Smart Defaults tool and integrating its system with other farm management platforms like Granular. Listen in to understand how Nori is working with farmers—and find out if you are a good fit to join Rebekah’s team as a Supply Enrollment and Account Manager. Resources: Nori Application for Supply Enrollment and Account Manager, Agriculture Forever Green Initiative Granular —————— Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on GitHub Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Nori White Paper Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom
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October 13, 2020
Nori is hiring a UX Designer!
Are you a UX Designer? Love what Nori is doing? Please apply here. In this episode, you'll hear more details about the position from Nori cofounder Alexsandra Guerra, as well as the general philosophy of hiring, application design, etc. The book Ross mentions is Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug.
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October 7, 2020
S2E33: Sailing in the age of climate change—w/ John Kretschmer, author and sailor
Sailors rely on wind patterns and currents to make decisions about the expeditions they take, tracking weather patterns along the way and adjusting their route as necessary. But climate change has made winds less consistent and weather patterns less predictable. How does that impact sailing? John Kretschmer is the President of John Kretschmer Sailing and the author of several books about his voyages at sea, including his latest release, Sailing to the Edge of Time: The Promise, the Challenges and the Freedom of Ocean Voyaging. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how he came to love boats and books, describing how sailing facilitates deep and powerful intellectual discussion. John weighs in on how climate change has impacted the way he plans and conducts passages, offering insight on how the trade winds and the Gulf Stream have changed in the last 30 years. Listen in to understand how sailors cope with volatile weather and find out how climate change has influenced the expeditions John is planning for 2021 and 2022. Connect with Nori: Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources: John Kretschmer Sailing John's books John’s Celestial Navigation Workshop Sailing Alone Around the World by Joshua Slocum Voyage of the Liberdade: A Journey from Brazil to America in a Hand-Built Boat by Joshua Slocum Books by Wendell Berry Heraclitus Odysseus Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis Cornell Sailing Publications Windy.com The Terror by Dan Simmons The Long Way by Bernard Moitessier Wanderer by Sterling Hayden
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October 6, 2020
Nori closes our $4M seed round and a new round of hiring begins
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori CEO Paul Gambill and Director of Corporate Development Alexsandra Guerra join Ross to talk about the $4M seed round Nori just closed, what that means for the company, and how hiring will proceed. Tune in to learn more about Nori careers and what is happening at the company. Resources: Coverage of Nori's round in TechCrunch and GeekWire The Medium post Paul wrote about Nori's round The Nori Careers page
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September 30, 2020
S2E32: Chasing a Job with Purpose (in carbon removal)—w/ Heidi Lim, Chief of Staff at Opus 12
How are you spending your time? Is it aligned with what you genuinely care about? In 2018, Heidi Lim quit her role in enterprise software to solve climate change full-time. What steps did she take to identify a new, purpose-driven path and then land a role in carbon removal? Heidi is the Chief of Staff at Opus 12, a company working to recycle CO2 into cost-competitive chemicals and fuels, and the author of two popular Medium articles, ‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ and ‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Heidi joins Ross to walk us through her process for finding meaningful work, explaining what inspired her to pursue a role in the carbon removal space. Heidi shares her strategies for figuring out what kind of purposeful work you want to pursue, challenging us to reach out to people on paths we’re interested in and embed ourselves in communities with likeminded individuals. Listen in for Heidi’s insight on turning content creation into career opportunities and learn how to plant the seeds that will lead to your dream role. Resources: ‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’ by Heidi Lim ‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ by Heidi Lim Heidi on Instagram Veg T-Rex on Instagram Heidi on Twitter AirMiners Apply to Join AirMiners Slack Opus 12 My Climate Journey APIENC After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Carbon180 Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Episode We Are Climate Designers: The Podcast Climatebase
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September 29, 2020
S2E31: Kiss the Ground doc live on Netflix!—w/ Gabe Brown, regenerative farmer and rancher
Nature is self-organizing, self-regulating, and self-healing. And if we follow her patterns, we can heal our ecosystem, produce better quality food, and more profitable farms and ranches. So, what does it look like when we adopt regenerative agricultural practices that work with nature’s principles? And what can we do to support the farmers and ranchers who understand the relationship between carbon and soil health? Farmer, rancher and soil health pioneer Gabe Brown is the bestselling author of Dirt to Soil: One Family’s Journey into Regenerative Agriculture, and his work is featured in the new Netflix documentary, Kiss the Ground. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Gabe joins Ross and Christophe to explain what inspired his own transition to regenerative agricultural practices and how he works with farmers and ranchers, using the context and tools available to move them down a regenerative path. Gabe walks us through the six principles of how nature functions, describing how we can work with nature to heal our ecosystem and why we all benefit from a shift from monoculture to polyculture. Listen in for Gabe’s insight on how a farmer or rancher’s profitability depends on carbon and learn how you can vote with your consumer dollars to promote regenerative agricultural practices.
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September 22, 2020
The Electric Election 2020 Roadtrip w/ Benji Backer of The Conservation Coalition
Reversing Climate Change alumnus and founder and president of the American Conservation Coalition, Benji Backer, returns to the show to tell us about The Conservation Coalition's new multimedia project, The Electric Election Roadtrip 2020. Benji and his team are traveling the country in a Tesla X to investigate the multiple overlapping climate solutions being developed. You can follow the show and its video on Facebook, TCC's website, or the podcast via audio in your podcast app of choice. Resources: The Electric Election 2020 Roadtrip website American Conservation Coalition's Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, website The Conservation Coalition website, and Twitter Benji Backer's Twitter The Trump panel with scientists referenced in this episode
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September 21, 2020
S2E30: How to "think little"—w/ Mary Berry, Executive Director of The Berry Center
“We have not settled America. We have colonized America. Now, we’ve got to figure out … how to actually live here. How are we going to move forward? Everybody needs to be an agrarian now.” — Mary Berry We live in a culture that pushes us to keep moving. Obsessed with upward mobility, we keep searching for something more. But this ‘problem of mobility’ robs us of the opportunity to belong to a place. To develop deep cultural ties with the land and each other. And Mary Berry contends that this disconnection and lack of community is the source of many of our problems here in the US. Mary Berry is the Executive Director of The Berry Center, a nonprofit that advocates for farmers, land-conserving communities, and healthy regional economies. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mary joins Ross to explain how her family’s history as part of the Burley Tobacco Growers Cooperative inspired her to build The Berry Center and describe how the Burley Tobacco program’s principles are at work in her team’s Our Home Place Meat initiative. Mary offers insight around the value of belonging to a place we love, discussing what it means to be part of a community and why we need to initiate small solutions locally—rather than waiting for one big policy or program to save us. Listen in to understand Mary’s argument against our current economy and learn how The Berry Center’s work goes beyond agriculture to foster cultural change. Resources Nori The Berry Center The Berry Center on Facebook Call (502) 845-9200 Agrarian Culture Center & Bookstore Our Home Place Meat Burley Tobacco Growers Cooperative Association Wendell Berry Farming Program at Sterling College Wes Jackson Nick Offerman Becoming Native to This Place by Wes Jackson Gary Snyder Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community by Robert D. Putnam Wendell Berry’s Port William Novels The World-Ending Fire by Wendell Berry Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander 50-Year Farm Bill Organic Valley Dairy Cooperative
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September 15, 2020
S2E29: Jonathan Safran Foer on meat, & his book We Are the Weather
Regardless of where you stand on the ethics of eating meat, the fact is, it’s a big part of the climate math. It provokes strong feelings all around, some of which may be contradictory within one’s self. And so much of the climate analysis is dependent upon how the animals were raised, marketed, and so on. It’s hard to speak (at least for some) with crisp lines. In this episode we wade into these details. Jonathan Safran Foer is the bestselling author of Eating Animals, Everything Is Illuminated, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, and We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast. Today, Jonathan joins Ross to describe his relationship with meat, explaining what inspired him to become a vegetarian at the age of nine and why he is willing to admit to moral failure when he grabs a burger at the airport. Jonathan shares his proposal for reducing our meat consumption as posited in We Are the Weather, weighing in on why it’s dangerous to make our food choices such a big part of our identity. Listen in for Jonathan’s insight on what makes climate change such a difficult story to tell and learn why Jonathan thinks reserving meat for dinner is a productive form of climate activism. Resources: We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast by Jonathan Safran Foer The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael Pollan ‘Options for Keeping the Food System Within Environmental Limits’ in Nature Bill Niman Wendell Berry Kate Knibbs on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12 The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells Learning to Die in the Anthropocene by Roy Scranton Peter Singer Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Twitter Nori on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Carbon Removal Newsroom
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September 8, 2020
S2E28: How many jobs will a direct air capture industry create?—w/ John Larsen of Rhodium Group
Direct air capture or DAC is one of the many strategies we need to employ to achieve the goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. So, how do we scale up the DAC industry to capture the hundreds of millions of tons of CO2 we need to remove from the atmosphere? And what would that kind of growth mean in terms of business opportunities and job creation? John Larsen is a Director at Rhodium Group, an independent research firm that analyzes global disruptive trends. He leads the firm’s US power sector and energy systems research, specializing in the analysis of clean energy policy and market trends. Today, John joins Ross, Christophe, and Aldyen to discuss his team’s most recent report and associated webinar, Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up. John outlines the policy recommendations he suggests to ramp up the construction of DAC plants, offering insight around potential government subsidies for decarbonization and sharing what policy solutions work (and which ones don’t). Listen in as John explores the clean tech innovations he finds interesting and introduces us to the most promising commercialization pathways for reaching net-zero emissions by 2050! Resources: Rhodium Group John at Rhodium Group Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up Capturing Leadership: Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture Technology 45Q Tax Credit for Carbon Sequestration California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard The DOD’s Plan to Produce Jet Fuel from Seawater on Aircraft Carriers Klaus Lackner at Arizona State University Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori on YouTube Nori on Patreon Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom
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September 1, 2020
S2E27: Are grasslands overshadowed by charismatic megaflora?—w/ Chris Kerston of Savory Institute
Ranching has been vilified as a major contributor to climate change. But what if it’s not the cow but the HOW? The fact is, animals have always lived and grazed on grasslands, and when we leverage regenerative grazing to raise livestock, we can rebuild the soil and sequester carbon in the grass and soil, sourcing materials like leather, fiber, and meat in a more responsible way.  Chris Kerston is the Chief Commercial Officer of the Land to Market Program at the Savory Institute, a nonprofit working to regenerate the world’s grasslands through Holistic Management. Today, Chris joins Ross to explain how the Savory Institute promotes regenerative grazing and share their vision of a future where farmers and ranchers work together. Chris walks us through the Land to Market program’s Ecological Outcome Verification (EOV) protocol, describing why they measure a breadth of ecosystem services versus sequestered carbon alone. Listen in to understand how Savory is supporting brands like Timberland and learn how the Land to Market Program can help us make more informed choices about what we consume. Resources: Nori on Patreon Savory Institute Chris at Savory Institute Savory’s Land to Market Program Kiss the Ground Savory’s Partnership with Timberland Diana Rodgers Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat: Why Well-Raised Meat is Good for You and Good for the Planet by Diana Rodgers and Robb Wolf Peter Donovan at the Soil Carbon Coalition The Whole Foods Diet: The Lifesaving Plan for Health and Longevity by John Mackey, Alona Pulde, MD, and Matthew Lederman MD Joel Salatin Will Harris Gabe Brown The Nature Conservancy Savory’s Land to Market Brand Partners Leather Working Group Wendell Berry Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Nori on Facebook Nori on Twitter Nori on Medium Nori Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Subscribe on iTunes Carbon Removal Newsroom
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August 25, 2020
S2E26: How to Burn a Goat: Farming with the Philosophers—w/ Dr. Scott H. Moore, author
We live in a point-and-click society where labor is seen as something to overcome. But what if we’ve got it wrong? Philosopher turned farmer Dr. Scott H. Moore contends that entertainment doesn’t have to be passive. In fact, activities like reading Dante, growing tomatoes or fixing our own plumbing can bring us a lot of joy and satisfaction—and maybe even transform the way we see the world. Dr. Moore is an Associate Professor of Philosophy and Great Texts at Baylor University and the author of How to Burn a Goat: Farming with the Philosophers. Today, Dr. Moore joins Ross to discuss the connections among philosophy, the Classics, theology and farming, explaining how Wendell Berry inspired his decision to become a farmer, and exploring how great works like Dante’s Divine Comedy remain relevant in modern life. Dr. Moore challenges us to rethink our notion of labor, describing the rewards of problem-solving with our hands and engaging in activities like gardening or woodworking—as opposed to just buying the things we want. Listen in for Dr. Moore’s insight on making leisure more intentional and learn how Christian thought and the Classics can help us cultivate a sense of gratitude and initiate meaningful conversations about what really matters. Resources: Dr. Moore at Baylor University How to Burn a Goat: Farming with the Philosophers by Scott H. Moore Books by Wendell Berry The Divine Comedy Volume I: Inferno by Dante Alighieri, translated by Mark Musa The Great Courses: Dante’s Divine Comedy The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis Nick Offerman Good Clean Fun: Misadventures in Sawdust at Offerman Woodshop by Nick Offerman The Unsettling of America by Wendell Berry, narrated by Nick Offerman Joel Salatin on Reversing Climate Change EP072 Quill Robinson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP18 Leisure: The Basis of Culture by Josef Pieper Books by Gregory A. Boyd Books by David Bentley Hart G.K. Chesterton Sorry, ran out of space! Will update these notes with the full list when room is expanded.
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August 18, 2020
S2E25: The DAC-up plan for climate change—w/ Dr. Jen Wilcox of Worcester Polytechnic Institute
There is a temptation to believe that science and technology will save us from climate change, while we continue business as usual. But we have already emitted huge levels of CO2 into the atmosphere, and it’s going to take both carbon capture at the source and direct air capture (DAC) from ambient air to make a dent in the record atmospheric concentration of 415ppm we hit in 2019. Dr. Jennifer Wilcox is the James H. Manning Chaired Professor of Chemical Engineering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute and the author of the first textbook on carbon capture. Today, Dr. Wilcox joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the distinction between carbon capture in general and direct air capture specifically and explain why we need both strategies to succeed in reversing climate change. Dr. Wilcox goes on to describe the two leading DAC technologies, solvents and solid sorbents, sharing how we might decide where to build plants and what tech to use in a given situation. Listen in for Dr. Wilcox’s insight on conducting a techno-economic assessment on systems that have yet to be deployed and learn how you can get involved in the ongoing advancement of carbon management. Resources: Nori on Patreon Nori on Twitter Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori Dr. Wilcox on Twitter Dr. Wilcox on Google Scholar Dr. Wilcox’s TED Talk David Biello at TED ‘Cost Analysis of Carbon Capture and Sequestration of Process Emissions from the US Industrial Sector’ in Environmental Science & Technology ‘Cost Analysis of Carbon Capture and Sequestration from US Natural Gas-Fired Power Plants’ in Environmental Science & Technology ‘Cost Analysis of Direct Air Capture and Sequestration Coupled to Low-Carbon Thermal Energy in the United States’ in Environmental Science & Technology Carbfix Sherwood’s Rule Climeworks Petra Nova Carbon Engineering Global Thermostat American Physical Society 2011 Report Lenfest Center for Sustainable Energy Books by Wendell Berry Charles Eisenstein
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August 11, 2020
S2E24: Black Americans Care About Climate Change (But It’s Complicated)—w/ Jared DeWese of Third Way
We know that minority populations bear an unequal burden when it comes to climate change. And yes, Black Americans are concerned about the climate crisis, but they don’t see the environment as a top-tier issue. So, what can advocates and policymakers do to make climate change more relevant to Black communities and ensure their inclusion in a clean energy transition? Jared DeWese is Senior Communications Advisor for the Climate & Energy Program at Third Way, a center-left federal policy think tank based in Washington, D.C. Jared joins Ross to discuss the organization’s recent report, ‘Black Americans Care About Climate Change (But It’s Complicated),’ sharing the top takeaways from their qualitative research and explaining how advocates can mobilize communities of color around climate change by connecting the issue with their daily lives. Jared weighs in on how Black Americans are impacted by climate change, introducing us to the idea of environmental racism and exploring what we can do to confront and transform discriminatory systems and policies. Listen in for Jared’s insight on promoting climate policy in a divided Congress and learn why he is optimistic about the potential for real progress at this particular moment in history. Resources: Third Way Energy on Twitter Jared on Twitter Black Americans Care About Climate Change (But It’s Complicated) Yale Program on Climate Communication Study on Race & Attitudes Toward Climate Change The Environmental Kuznets Curve When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequity in Twentieth-Century America by Ira Katznelson Joe Biden’s Plan for a Clean Energy Revolution & Environmental Justice Otto von Bismarck & the Welfare State The History of Rome Podcast Revolutions Podcast The Life & Legacy of John Lewis on The Daily Podcast James Baldwin on Being Black in America Alexander Hamilton on Slavery as Wasted Potential W.E.B. Du Bois’ Concept of Double Consciousness The Environmental Defense Fund Poll on African Americans & Clean Energy Resources Nori Nori on Twitter
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August 4, 2020
How to Decolonize the Atmosphere (with carbon removal)—w/ Dr. Holly Jean Buck
Many indigenous communities see the climate crisis as another form of colonialism. First World countries have colonized the atmosphere with their greenhouse gas emissions. And there is a risk that carbon removal infrastructure reinforces business-as-usual. So, what is the best approach to decolonizing the atmosphere? How can we tackle climate change in a way that fits with broader progressive goals around equity and social justice? Dr. Holly Jean Buck is a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA’s Institute on the Environment and Sustainability and the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration. Dr. Buck joins Ross to discuss her recent article in Progressive International, ‘How to Decolonize the Atmosphere.’ She describes how the ideas in The Red Deal: Indigenous Action to Save Our Earth informed her thinking and introduces us to the concept of settler colonialism as it relates to climate change. Dr. Buck walks us through her three progressive goals for carbon removal: 1) link carbon with the managed decline of fossil fuels, 2) ensure public ownership and return on investment, and 3) advocate for a global framework for carbon removal. Listen in for Dr. Buck’s insight on the interconnectedness of the climate crisis with the other major issues we face and find out why she is concerned about the way social media may be influencing scientific research. Resources Dr. Buck’s Website Dr. Buck on Twitter The Red Deal Part 1: End the Occupation Beyond Wiindigo Infrastructure by Winona LaDuke, Deborah Cowen After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Global CCS Institute Report on Climate Change Rhodium Report on Jobs & Direct Air Capture Rhodium Report on Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture Sad by Design: On Platform Nihilism by Geert Lovink Nexus by Ramez Naam Daniel Schmachtenberger ‘Climate Change is a Waste Management Problem’ in Issues in Science and Technology All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare
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July 30, 2020
S2E23: Can green sand beaches sequester carbon at scale?—w/ Kelly Erhart & Tom Green of Project Vesta
Carbon dioxide levels are double what they were prior the Industrial Revolution. And we know that reducing emissions is simply not going to be enough to avoid widespread ecological collapse. We need strategies for removing CO2 from the atmosphere at scale. So, what if green sand beaches could provide a promising solution to climate change that is nature-based, affordable, and can be deployed around the globe? Kelly Erhart and Tom Green are the Cofounder and Executive Director, respectively, of Project Vesta, an organization dedicated to capturing a trillion tonnes of excess CO2 in rock through coastal enhanced weathering. Kelly and Tom join Ross to explain how they are creating green sand beaches with olivine to remove CO2 from the atmosphere faster and store it in limestone on the sea floor. They discuss the benefits and potential risks of enhanced weathering in an aquatic environment as well as the permanence of Project Vesta’s sequestration process. Kelly and Tom share the news of how Stripe came to be their first customer, describing how the nonprofit is funded and what’s behind their decision to make the technology open-source. Listen in to understand how the enhanced weathering process might help solve the ocean acidification problem and how Project Vesta sees their solution's scalability and cost-effectiveness. Resources Project Vesta Project Vesta’s Research Page Project Vesta on Instagram Project Vesta on Facebook Project Vesta on Twitter Eric Matzner on Carbon Removal Newsroom EP018 Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide from Climat