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Life After MLM

Life After MLM

By Roberta Blevins

True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidious cult of Multi Level Marketing, where through compassionate, educational, informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an industry systematically designed for you to fail.
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Episode 5 : Haley O'Bryan - MLM & Mental Health

Life After MLMMar 10, 2021

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Episode 61 - LuLaBitch - Maelen - Part 2

Episode 61 - LuLaBitch - Maelen - Part 2

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

We continue Maelen's story after the disaster of Vision 2017 broke the straw, and her dealing with leaving LuLaRoe and the 100% Buy Back cancelation nightmare. We discuss the culture in LuLaRoe, and what it was like being outside the target demographic, the tokenism, two faced lies and how culty it really was. Even as a small fish, who put her everything into it, she just couldn't make it work for her despite every attempt at making Mark's rotten lemons into lemonade. After watching LuLaRich, Maelen just couldn't unsee the truth anymore and needed to share her experience in the cult with us.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Did Agnes & Dora Close? - https://www.sassydirect.com/articles/did-agnes-and-dora-close

Tokenism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism

The BITE Model by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

The Cult of Trump by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://amzn.to/3zSKD1h

Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 30, 202148:55
Episode 60 - LuLaBitch - Maelen - Part 1

Episode 60 - LuLaBitch - Maelen - Part 1

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

Maelen reached out to me after watching LuLaRich, and knew she needed to get some things off her chest about her time in LuLaRoe and the processing of those emotions. She shares her journey with me, starting with an out of state Inspire tour where she was one of a thousand women onboarded in one day, and what it was like to be a child free, single woman in an MLM obsessed with marriage and family. Maelen has A LOT to say, and I'm so happy to give her a platform to say it on. This is part 1. 

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Dot Dot Smile - https://symonsayssmile.com/dotdotsmile-lularoe/

LuLaSuits Explained - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7005079001626578182

The BITE Model by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 29, 202151:04
Episode 59 - "Michelle"

Episode 59 - "Michelle"

*In this episode of Life After MLM, we talk about the MLM Pure Romance, which includes adult themes and situations. This episode is recommended for 18+ and if you are sensitive to this subject matter, please use your own discretion.*

"Michelle" was ride or die with Pure Romance for almost 19 years, after a messy divorce left her a single mom with a hungry teenage son. Although admittedly shy, the experience opened her up and she found she was a natural at recruiting, growing herself an impressively large team. But "Michelle" started to see the rot of Pure Romance from the inside, and what it really took to stay at the top. It wasn't until a new boyfriend helped her take a hard look at her finances that she woke up from her nearly 2 decade long Kool-Aid fueled haze.

Show Notes

"Ruth: Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-32--Ruth---Part-1-e11bh7o

"Ruth" Part 2- https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-33--Ruth---Part-2-e11f8ds

Pure Romance IDS - https://www.pureromance.com/pws/homeoffice/tabs/income-disclosure

Pure Romance, LLC Acquires Slumber Parties - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pure-romance-llc-acquires-slumber-parties-240825911.html

BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 26, 202101:22:13
Episode 58 - LuLaBitch - More Victims of LuLaRoe

Episode 58 - LuLaBitch - More Victims of LuLaRoe

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

This episode is a new idea I had, and if we like it, I'd love to continue with other MLMs and topics! I love the audience participation part! The other day I was sent a video of DeAnne saying that LuLaRich was just 4 consultants complaining and not to base their opinions of LuLaRoe on 4 consultants experiences. So I put out a call to action and asked people to send in some of their experiences with LuLaRoe, because I knew there was A LOT more than 4. I was so excited by the response and will do more as long as you send me those messages! Enjoy!

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

The BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

GoT S07E07 Petyr Baelish "Assume the Worst" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OmC3dk-O8

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 23, 202141:32
Episode 57 - LuLaBitch - Becca Peter - Part 2

Episode 57 - LuLaBitch - Becca Peter - Part 2

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

We finish up Part 2 as Becca and I discuss some of the more burning questions in LuLaRich, like that odd marriage and why Mark and DeAnne think it's so funny. Plus some of the deepest secrets that LuLaRich didn't mention, and what we think about what's to come and the future of LuLaRoe. Plus Becca answers my rapid fire questions and it leads to even more bananery.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

LuLaRoe: The REAL Untold Story. (Anti-MLM) (Pt.1) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMp7iIAiWQU

LuLaRoe: The REAL Untold Story. (Anti-MLM) (Pt. 2) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUQU-1FY6Q

Behind the Bastards: Part One: John Ronald Brown: The Worst Surgeon Ever - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-john-ronald-brown-the-55594943/

Behind the Bastards: Part Two: John Ronald Brown: The Worst Surgeon Ever - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-john-ronald-brown-the-55806281/

Becca's Washi Tape Store! https://www.prettypackagestape.com/

Washi Tape: 101+ Ideas for Paper Crafts, Book Arts, Fashion, Decorating, Entertaining, and Party Fun! - https://amzn.to/3u2opsc

Fun With Washi!: 35 Ways to Instantly Refresh Your Home, Accessories, and Packages with Washi Tape - https://amzn.to/39qZZzf

Current LuLaRoe Prints - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6989734605972655366

LuLaRich Critics - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7009420382973283589

Becca's SLMLMBOK Interview! - https://soundslikemlm.libsyn.com/lularoes-bless-of-death-the-end-of-an-alleged-criminal-empire

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 22, 202153:30
Episode 56 - LuLaBitch - Becca Peter - Part 1

Episode 56 - LuLaBitch - Becca Peter - Part 1

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

In the world of LuLaRoe tea, Becca dominates the space, and while she was never a rep, LuLaRoe still found it's way in front of her curious eyes. From the credit card breaches and tax issues, to the juicy MyDyer case, if LuLaRoe has been sued, Becca knows about it and has snarky commentary to accompany it. I'm so glad that we finally found the time to sit down and chat, because this episode has been in the works since I started this podcast! This is part 1, and I am EXHAUSTED so you'll have to wait for part 2 until later!

Show Notes 

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Popular Fashion Line LuLaRoe Sued Over Sales Tax Charges - https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2017/02/27/popular-fashion-line-lularoe-sued-for-overcharging-customers-sales-tax/?sh=b6e31a6176db

https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/20/new-data-breach-unaddressed-lularoe/

Yo Gabba Gabba - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_Gabba_Gabba!

The Aquabats - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquabats

The Jets - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jets_(Minnesota_band)

Brothers give Sammy's shake shop new name, spin - https://www.ksl.com/article/33286448/brothers-give-sammys-shake-shop-new-name-spin

Dont F**k with Cats -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_F**k_with_Cats:_Hunting_an_Internet_Killer

Triangle Lawsuit - https://www.reddit.com/r/LuLaNo/comments/9ckzsv/oh_shocker_llrs_getting_sued_again_for_stealing/

LuLaRoe Has Consumers Upset Over Leggings They Consider Racist - https://www.inquisitr.com/4036112/lularoe-has-consumers-upset-over-leggings-they-consider-racist/

Judge finally orders LLR warehouse supervisor to give a deposition in sexual harassment lawsuit after dodging it for a YEAR -https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/ant5j2/judge_finally_orders_llr_warehouse_supervisor_to/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 21, 202158:11
Episode 55 - LuLaBitch - "Melissa" - Part 2

Episode 55 - LuLaBitch - "Melissa" - Part 2

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

As we finish up our list of LuLaGrievances, "Melissa" and I finally make it to the NDSS scandal, explaining what happened with the top selling consultants who mocked special needs. Listening to how LuLaRoe spun this disaster into their favor is the word salad you didn't know you needed. We also talk about our own actions in LuLaRoe, admitting to things we had deep buried and forgot about, and shed light on the mindset we were in when we made the decisions we did. My chat with "Melissa" was raw, fun, hilarious and authentic, just like her. 

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Consultants: LuLaRoe's 'Noir' capsule collection is an epic failure - https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/news/2017/11/08/lularoe-noir-all-black-clothing-bad-press/34919179/

People Are Horrified With LuLaRoe For Standing By A Retailer Who Mocked Down Syndrome - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-ndss

NDSS TikTok 1 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975564951985392902

NDSS TikTok 2 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975566407354338566

NDSS TikTok 3 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975567610482216197

NDSS TikTok 4 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975568759889153285

NDSS TikTok 5 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975571555296218373

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 20, 202101:05:10
Episode 54 - LuLaBitch - "Melissa" - Part 1

Episode 54 - LuLaBitch - "Melissa" - Part 1

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

I met "Melissa" before our time in LuLaRoe, when we were both young moms at a local Chick-Fil-A storytime group. We instantly hit it off, and kept in touch as her husband's military career took them cross country. After LuLaRich came out, "Melissa" reached out and told me she wanted to tell me her story as a "small fish" in LuLaRoe. So many of her experiences mirrored mine, and I know so many more former retailers will connect with her dry humor and "WTF"ery in the ups and downs on her LuLaJourney. This is Part 1.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek - https://amzn.to/2XykQyc

Yo Gabba Gabba! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_Gabba_Gabba!

Nicolae Ceaușescu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu

The Turdma - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9c8kw2/for_anyone_who_has_never_seen_it_i_present_to_you/

Small Town Murder - https://shutupandgivememurder.com/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & @bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 20, 202101:15:31
Episode 53 : Alex Semchuck

Episode 53 : Alex Semchuck

*We had a few technical difficulties with the mic and some fuzzy reverb in a few spots. We did clear it up as much as we could when recording, and again as I edited it for the podcast. Just a heads up!*

From the moment I recorded episodes 17 & 18, Russ has been telling me to watch The Slave Circle and reach out to the filmmaker, Alex Semchuck. He thought we would get along and have a lot to talk about, and boy was he right. Alex not only made the film about Smart Circle, he also worked for the company, an MLM you might not see coming. We chat about the many different heads of this hydra, where you might encounter Smart Circle, and what it can look like when you do.  Alex and I share some of the biggest red flags for avoiding these scams when navigating online job listings, or even your local grocery store.

Show Notes

The Slave Circle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyCRzBt7GuY

Alex's YouTube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv12xKxM_R-_tzMbfopzsUw

Devil Corp - https://thedevilcorp.wordpress.com/

Juicy Rhino - https://www.instagram.com/juicyrhino/?hl=en

Glassdoor - https://www.glassdoor.com/index.htm

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Sep 19, 202101:19:45
Episode 52 - LuLaBitch - Paul and Tiffany Ivanovsky - Part 2

Episode 52 - LuLaBitch - Paul and Tiffany Ivanovsky - Part 2

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

This episode mentions "Alexa" several times, just in case you're listening near one. Also, Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering.

I get right to the nitty gritty because I know Paul has the story I need to hear; The Beta Testing Group. I remember being out of LuLaRoe on the backside of this, watching this scam unfold and piecing it together with Becca and the Defective Detectives, so I wanted confirmation! But, it's not as easy as that. As we go down the rabbit hole to find answers, Tiffany shares some dirt on how speaking up go them into trouble, and the culty way they had to beg for another chance. Plus, Paul NEVER misses a chance to spill Art, Patrick or Mark tea.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Shop with the Ivanovsky's - https://emmalousboutique.com/

Follow Tiffany on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@emmalousboutique

The GREATEST Mark quote of ALL TIME - https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/amjci0/inspired_by_lularoe_look_guys_i_am_not_going_to/

Justin Bieber's LONG shirts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pmbR0B7TE

LuLaRoe Patrick - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/d9/db/c5d9dbf596764c617f1e0ee73462eb83.jpg

Mark Stidham is Buy $5M in Autos - https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/07/lularoe-mark-stidham-is-buying-5-million-in-autos/

BETA TESTING MEGA THREAD SS DUMP - https://www.facebook.com/448202705304465/posts/beta-testing-mega-thread-ss-dumpdo-you-wanna-buy-a-beta-box-or-maybe-all-the-thi/1126711997453529/

Becca's Washi Tape - https://www.prettypackagestape.com/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Sep 17, 202101:02:51
Episode 51 - LuLaBitch - Paul and Tiffany Ivanovsky - Part 1

Episode 51 - LuLaBitch - Paul and Tiffany Ivanovsky - Part 1

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering.

Paul and Tiffany first heard of LuLaRoe shortly after a tragic loss in their family. After receiving Valentine's Day leggings as a gift, Tiffany was fascinated by the idea and joined as a side income to her already popular websites and businesses. Before long they were out selling everyone in the company, and had 20% of the Top 100 sellers in their downline. In this episode we dispel some rumors, talk "special perks" and what it REALLY took to get them, and Paul shares his love of LuLaRoe's very own Man in Black, their former head designer Patrick. This is part 1.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Shop with the Ivanovsky's - https://emmalousboutique.com/

Follow Tiffany on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@emmalousboutique

Paul & Tiffany's Extreme Couponing Episode - https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/extreme-couponing/full-episodes/jaime-and-tiffany

LuLaRoe Retains Social Media Entrepreneur Oliver Luckett to Advance Company's Social Retail Brand and Business Strategy - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lularoe-retains-social-media-entrepreneur-oliver-luckett-to-advance-companys-social-retail-brand-and-business-strategy-300516369.html

One of LuLaRoe’s most iconic executives has suddenly left as some ex-sellers claim the company owes them thousands of dollars in refunds - https://www.businessinsider.com/lularoes-patrick-winget-exits-company-amid-refund-complaints-2018-10

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Sep 17, 202101:00:24
Episode 50 - LuLaBitch - Sheri

Episode 50 - LuLaBitch - Sheri

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

Sheri joined LuLaRoe at the time it was just starting take off. She's been holding in her story for the last 3 years, and recently found the strength to spill it all on the show. Sheri takes us down a rocky, red flag laden path, where she admittedly ignored all the signs, down unexpected twists and turns of When Boss Babes Attack, to finding herself in the middle of a hacking allegation with "Bully Bill", LuLaRoe's infamous lawyer. She even spills quite a bit of tea on the leader who told people to "sell their breast milk". Throughout her retelling of her time inside LuLaRoe, Sheri talks about the after effects of leaving, the PTSD, the shame and pain you feel as you come to the realization that you were a victim AND a predator.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

LuLaRoe allegedly pressured saleswomen to sell their breast milk so they could buy more inventory - https://hellogiggles.com/news/lularoe-saleswomen-sell-breast-milk-inventory/

Doritos - https://twitter.com/amniha/status/913051279966064640

LuLaSuits - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7005079001626578182

Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 16, 202101:05:04
Episode 49 - LuLaBitch - LaShae Kimbrough

Episode 49 - LuLaBitch - LaShae Kimbrough

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

This interview takes place while LaShae was at the salon, and some background noise was unavoidable. Also, Shae's mic has some sound issues for a bit, but it does even out and fix itself. Adjust your volume accordingly.

When Blye and Cori reached out to me, asking for Home Office employees, LaShae was the first name out of my mouth. Her interview was cut short in the Vice Documentary, and I wanted her to be able to tell her whole story with Amazon. As the "LuLaRoe Fairy Godmother" LaShae was witness to A LOT of shenanigans of the Bradham Clan, the good, bad and ugly. ALLEGEDLY. Shae spills A LOT of tea, and confirms a lot of rumors. We chat about the infamous sock monkey leggings, Home Office's "Zen Room", a hard drive LaShae kept everything she ever did on and Beyonce.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Follow Shae on Social! 

https://www.tiktok.com/@lashaekimbrough

https://www.instagram.com/misseslbc

Sock Monkey Leggings - https://twitter.com/bertalikewhoa/status/1438042363226587137

LuLaRoe Has Consumers Upset Over Leggings They Consider Racist https://www.inquisitr.com/4036112/lularoe-has-consumers-upset-over-leggings-they-consider-racist/

Top Consultant tells Deaf customer to "turn up your volume" -https://www.reddit.com/r/lularoe/comments/7ig454/live_sales/

LuLaRoe Seller Discriminates Against Deaf Customer https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754059321453134

The Mission Inn's Sunday Brunch - https://www.missioninn.com/dining/sunday-brunch

Chocolate Caramel-Covered Apples -https://www.harryanddavid.com/h/fruit-gift/chocolate-covered-fruit/29491

Omni Hotels - https://www.omnihotels.com/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 15, 202101:09:06
Episode 48 - LuLaBitch - Katie S. Part 2

Episode 48 - LuLaBitch - Katie S. Part 2

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

Katie and I continue our walk down LuLaRoe Memory Lane, discussing Mark and DeAnne's shady intentions, and our feelings on celebrities who use their influence to scam their fans. In her post LLR life, Katie is a professional medium and made some predictions for me back in the summer of 2020! She also shares her predictions for the release and we discuss the possible aftermath of LuLaRich. Somehow Katie turns this around and interviews me as well, with a couple comedic tangents along the way! Laughter truly is the best medicine for shared trauma.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Rachel Hollis shades the MLM community in her newest book and they aren’t happy about. - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/jhp35i/rachel_hollis_shades_the_mlm_community_in_her/

Tarot Card Meanings - https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/

Coolina Knives - https://coolinastore.com/collections/knives

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 14, 202144:36
Episode 47 - LuLaBitch - Katie S. Part 1

Episode 47 - LuLaBitch - Katie S. Part 1

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

Katie S. joined LuLaRoe in the Spring of 2017, and spent over 3 months waiting in the onboarding queue. Though Katie is not featured in LuLaRich, her story would have fit perfectly in the series. We chat about our mirrored experiences in LuLaRoe during our time under the same Mentor, the mess that was Vision 2017 and the ADA issues, the mysterious hashtag "#becauseoflularoe", being stacked, manipulated launches, defective product, and how much she got for selling her team, and walking away. We also talk about the issues that arise when you unknowingly bring people you love into a scam. This is Part 1.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

The Rabidly-Followed Leggings Brand You Can Only Buy on Facebook - https://www.racked.com/2016/6/16/11898266/lularoe-leggings-facebook-multi-level-marketing

LuLaRoe has turned your Facebook friends into a leggings sales force - https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-tech-multilevel-marketing-20171211-story.html

Mark's FAMOUS Speech - 17:30 "You're stale"; 20:07 "Wrestle with the pigs" - https://lularoefail.com/2018/02/12/lularoe-mark-stidham-youre-stale-wrestling-pigs-webinar-04182017/

Deanne singing and driving - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xVEDtaK7w

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 14, 202155:29
Episode 46 - LuLaBitch - Derryl Trujillo

Episode 46 - LuLaBitch - Derryl Trujillo

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

For our first episode of LuLaBitch, we welcome Derryl Trujillo, the charming and stalwart Home Office employee from LuLaRich on Amazon Prime. I first met Derryl back in 2017, right after we had both left LuLaRoe and found Defective. When helping consult on LuLaRich, I KNEW the producers needed to hear what really happened in Home Office and that Derryl was the only one who could tell it. Derryl shares his experiences being hired, dealing with failed launches, Convention 2016 & 2017 (you decide which was worse) and his emotional tear filled realization that he's worth more than this. Who's joining us at Miguel's for Happy Hour?

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

Follow Derryl on Twitter! - https://twitter.com/derryl_golfer

Follow Derryl on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/derryltrujillo/

Got a job for Derryl? Connect on LinkedIn! - https://www.linkedin.com/in/derryl-trujillo-476500108

Color Lenses Personality Test - https://truecolorsintl.com/the-four-color-personalities/

Millennial Women Made LuLaRoe Billions. Then They Paid The Price. - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits

PLIGHT OF ROMANIAN CHILDREN SPURS U.S. FAMILIES TO ADOPT - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/01/22/plight-of-romanian-children-spurs-us-families-to-adopt/65fdc7bf-1efb-4b35-a160-8b51810de1ec/

LuLaRoe Is Getting Criticized Again From Women Furious About The Latest Line Of Clothes - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lula-noir-launch

LuLaRoe founders fight back against pyramid scheme accusation - https://www.cbsnews.com/video/lularoe-founders-fight-back-against-pyramid-scheme-accusation/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Sep 13, 202101:23:17
Episode 45 - "Tallulah"

Episode 45 - "Tallulah"

"Tallulah" dodged a bullet when she saw the red flags at a World Financial Group recruitment event and decided to turn down "the opportunity". After making that decision, she was harassed and bullied by her recruiter with vicious texts and voice messages. We also discuss different red flags to look for when trying to figure out if the opportunity being offered is a scam or not, the differences between MLM and "Corporate America" and what to expect from a legitimate job offer. 

Show Notes

World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_Group

Betting on Zero - https://amzn.to/3DNlg4e

Transamerica Pyramid - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamerica_Pyramid

Infiltrating A Pyramid Scheme: WFG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flugTRSTZoo

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 05, 202101:03:41
Episode 44 - Tracey Reid

Episode 44 - Tracey Reid

CONTENT WARNING - The results of this event have claimed the lives of at least 10 people at the time of publication. We talk about the event, Covid, and the aftermath, including hospitalization and death. Please listen at your own discretion.

A special bonus episode of Life After MLM! Meet Tracey Reid, a former top 1% Bling Boss Paparazzi Mega Seller turned Anti MLM crusader! I was first introduced to her when I was tagged in her Facebook Live video about her opinions on last month's Paparazzi Convention that quickly turned into a Super Spreader event with fatal consequences. After watching her passion for a few minutes I knew I had to get her on the show to chat! Tracey was done reeeaaallll dirty by the PapaCrew and her tea is piping hot. 

Show Notes

Paparazzi Tracey Necklace (their old stock, sold by Tracey's daughter Caroline!)  - https://bluegrassbling.com/collections/all-products-1/products/the-tracey-zi-collection-necklace-earrings

Tracey modeling her Zi Piece - https://www.facebook.com/ZiTracey/videos/251454288912971

American's with Disabilities Act - https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/disability/ada

IT WASN'T THE FIRST TIME! Justice Department Reaches Agreement with Norwegian Cruise Line Over ADA Violations - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-reaches-agreement-norwegian-cruise-line-over-ada-violations

Paparazzi Convention TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6993826771527372038

Paparazzi Convention Update TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0/video/7000541544939867398

Paparazzi Covid Deaths Update TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0/video/7001640192935202054

Las Vegas Coronavirus Update - https://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/News/Blog/Detail/corona-virus-update

Tracey's Facebook Live - https://www.facebook.com/TraceyLynnReid/videos/304824054745920

Can You Make Money Selling Paparazzi Jewelry? Here’s The Truth - https://sidehustlingmoney.com/can-you-make-money-selling-paparazzi-jewelry/

Portable Photo Studio Light Box - https://amzn.to/3gRZP8l

Support Caroline's Jewelry Business, Blue Grass Bling! - https://bluegrassbling.com/

Support Tracey's Business Consulting Business! - https://www.facebook.com/ReidBusinessSolutions

The 6 Phases of a Tapeworms Life - https://theoatmeal.com/comics/tapeworm

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Sep 01, 202101:14:48
Episode 43 - "Julie Smith"

Episode 43 - "Julie Smith"

In this episode, we meet "Julie Smith" and she takes us through her journey into "becoming a Hun", while in the top 5% of two different MLMs. From her viewpoint, she got to experience the behavior MLM's don't tell you about; the true costs, what it really takes and what you've got to be willing to let go. As "Julie" tells her story, she recounts how she came to understand that while she was successful in MLM, it was at the expense of the "failures", and she knew she couldn't keep quiet any longer.

Show Notes

LuLaRich Trailer - https://youtu.be/nJgkwIHp1pc

My NEW Website! - www.robertablevins.com

Monat to refund more customers after 2-year Fla. AG investigation on fake product claims - https://www.abcactionnews.com/money/consumer/taking-action-for-you/monat-to-refund-more-customers-after-2-year-fla-ag-investigation-on-fake-product-claims

Do Monat Hair Care Products Cause Hair Loss? - https://www.healthline.com/health/hair-loss-monat

Haley O'Bryan on LAMLM - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-5--Haley-OBryan---MLM--Mental-Health-es59j6

Multilevel Marketing Is Detrimental To Mental Health - https://thebipolarkitty.com/multilevel-marketing-is-detrimental-to-mental-health/

Multi-Level Marketing in Recovery: A Special Report - https://cmwn.org/colorado-mental-wellness-network-blog/special-reports/mlm-recovery/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Aug 29, 202101:11:07
Episode 42 : Eddie Arriola

Episode 42 : Eddie Arriola

Eddie was a massage therapist in Tucson, Arizona looking for a more stable and rewarding career when an insurance agent walked though the spa's doors offering options. Though his time in insurance, he found himself working for World Financial Group, an insurance service MLM that seemed more interested in recruiting than selling appropriate policies. Eddie offers some practical advice, we share our love of Jewish bakeries and food, and where he's headed next.

Show Notes

*Follow my TikTok BACKUP Account!- https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0*

World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_Group

Types of Life Insurance - https://www.iii.org/article/what-are-principal-types-life-insurance

The Great Recession - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/great-recession.asp

Index Funds - https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-to-invest-in-index-funds

BNI - https://www.bni.com/

Insurance Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Insurance/

Personal Finance Reddit Wiki - https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/wiki/insurance/

Securities - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/security.asp

The Jetsons Meet The Flintstones - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons_Meet_the_Flintstones

People Helping People MLM Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/eule06/php_agency_is_an_mlm_scam_heres_the_facts/

Class Action Lawsuits & Insurance - https://uphelp.org/claim-guidance-publications/whats-up-with-insurance-class-action-lawsuits/

Finra fines WFG Investments $700,000 - https://www.investmentnews.com/finra-fines-wfg-investments-700000-60279

Jewish Funerals and Burial - https://www.shiva.com/learning-center/death-and-mourning/jewish-funerals-and-burial/

Dutch insurer's U.S. unit draws scrutiny from regulators - https://web.archive.org/web/20080531211002/http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/28/business/regs.php

Los Pollos Hermanos - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Pollos_Hermanos

How Money Works: Stop being a SUCKER - https://amzn.to/3xlmDT8

WealthWave MLM Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/bqnz2f/wealthwave/

WA State Long Term Care Insurance News - https://www.spokanejournal.com/special-report/long-term-insurance-short-term-confusion/

Support my FAVORITE Anti-MLM Clothing Boutiques in Michigan!

Shop Adrianne's Boutique! - adriannesboutique.com

Shop Lee Lee's Boutique! - https://shopleelees.com/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Aug 01, 202101:38:47
Podcast Update! New Episodes August 1st!

Podcast Update! New Episodes August 1st!

Hey! Thanks so much for being so patient while I took July off for some mental health time. New episodes with return Sunday, August 1st! We've got stories coming up from World Financial Group, Herbalife, Younique, and many more! Plus, some personal updates, social media updates, sharing some milestones and what else I have in store for new episodes! See you next week!

Show Notes!

Anti MLM Bookclub - Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

We hit 100K! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6988690539826728197?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

My NEW YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8VrNAbpWE&t=16s

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Jul 26, 202119:33
Episode 41 : Abby Miller - Part 2

Episode 41 : Abby Miller - Part 2

In the conclusion of Abby's episode, we finish out chat on MLMs & Christianity and dive into our personal thoughts and fact based opinions on Multi Level Marketing, and why what seems like simple and kind things to do, end up being nefarious traps that keep people stuck in the scam longer and cause them to lose more money over time. Plus, a direct call to action to church leaders to keep spaces safe from predatory scams, and a call to action to those with friends in MLM as well.

Show Notes

It’s Time For Christians (And Society, For That Matter) To Confront MLMs - https://ethan.shol.ly/blog/confronting-mlms/

John Oliver Last Week Tonight MLM Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI

A History of Young Living founder Gary Young - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/85z454/a_history_of_young_living_founder_gary_young/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

The 7 Stages of Grief - https://www.healthline.com/health/stages-of-grief

Paris Geller - https://gilmoregirls.fandom.com/wiki/Paris_Geller

The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296

Ministers, please stop peddling multilevel marketing products to the church - https://www.christianpost.com/voices/ministers-please-stop-peddling-multilevel-marketing-products-to-the-church.html

Dolores Umbridge - https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dolores_Umbridge

Frasier - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier

Rent or Buy Betting on Zero - https://amzn.to/3heUVRV

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 28, 202155:18
Episode 40 : Abby Miller - Part 1

Episode 40 : Abby Miller - Part 1

Abby Miller thought she was just "helping out a friend" at church by buying some oils, when she got an email welcoming her to the team as Young Living's newest distributor. After that experience she wanted to understand what had happened to her and why, and she went down the MLM rabbit hole. Being a Christian, Abby began to see that the MLM practices she was experiencing in her community were contradicting the biblical values she had been taught. After finding the podcast and listening to Ryan's episode on Mormonism, Abby wanted to be on the show to take on MLMs and Christianity. I wanted her on the show to have her answer the age old question; "Abby! What's your BEEF with MLM?!"

Show Notes

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

Some members of multilevel-marketing company Young Living are making questionable claims about 'essential oils' curing cancer and coronavirus - https://www.businessinsider.com/young-living-essential-oils-medical-claims-2020-7

The prosperity gospel, explained: Why Joel Osteen believes that prayer can make you rich - https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/1/15951874/prosperity-gospel-explained-why-joel-osteen-believes-prayer-can-make-you-rich-trump

Cleansing of the Temple - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple#:~:text=And%20Jesus%20went%20into%20the,it%20a%20den%20of%20thieves.

Loaded Language - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_language

It’s Time For Christians (And Society, For That Matter) To Confront MLMs - https://ethan.shol.ly/blog/confronting-mlms/

"Minnesota nice" -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice

John Oliver Last Week Tonight MLM Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 27, 202157:40
Episode 39 : Julie Jo

Episode 39 : Julie Jo

Before Julie Jo was a major force in the AntiMLM TikTok community, she was an Arbonne Hun. She climbed the ranks within her MLM, and qualified for that coveted White Mercedes. Julie breaks down what it takes to get there and how much that "FREE CAR" really costs. We also chat about TikTok, the AntiMLM community, cult tactics, and what we do about all those "haters" we get.

*If you're catching us in real time, head over to TikTok for a dual live chat about the episode!*

Show Notes

Julie's TikTok! https://www.tiktok.com/@walkin_on_lexapro

Hattie Louise TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@hattie.louise

Charlie's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@__dearsociety

The 9 Enneagrams - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions

Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958#forms-of-toxic-positivity

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 20, 202146:29
Episode 38 : Laura Caton - Part 2

Episode 38 : Laura Caton - Part 2

When Laura found herself pregnant with her 4th baby, in the middle of the Covid pandemic, she worried that her Mary Kay business may have been hurting more than it was helping. She took a long look at the numbers with her husband, and realized that she "never saw a true profit" from her 5 years in the "business". After a stress induced rash and severely swollen feet, Laura had "the talk" and decided to make a life change, another unexpected silver lining of the pandemic. 

Show Notes

About the 99% Failure Rate - https://www.pinktruth.com/2019/08/08/about-the-99-failure-rate/

Top 10 Reasons to NOT Do Mary Kay - http://www.pinktruth.com/mary-kay-facts/top-10-reasons-to-not-do-mary-kay/

Finance Guy Mary Kay Review - https://finance-guy.tumblr.com/post/161393409877/mary-kay-review

MARY KAY COSMETICS EARNINGS REPRESENTATIONS - http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2012/12/mary-kay-cosmetics-earnings-representations/

Mary Kay Canada IDS - https://www.marykay.ca/en-ca/pages/earnings-representation

Mary Kay Review – Don’t Join Before Reading This - https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/mary-kay-review/

MARY KAY OFF-ROADS INTO DECEPTIVE INCOME CLAIMS - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/mary-kay-off-roads-into-deceptive-income-claims/

LuLaRoe allegedly pressured saleswomen to sell their breast milk so they could buy more inventory - https://hellogiggles.com/news/lularoe-saleswomen-sell-breast-milk-inventory/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa

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Jun 16, 202101:05:02
Episode 37 : Laura Caton - Part 1

Episode 37 : Laura Caton - Part 1

Laura Caton was a mother of young children just looking for something of her own when she learned about a local community theater company in her area. She was targeted multiple times in her small town by the local Mary Kay Director, before eventually "starting her own business" with the MLM. Because she was a homeschooling mom, with little outlet outside of home, she began selling and sharing the opportunity within the theater company, convinced they needed the quality products that "only Mary Kay could offer". Laura and I share similar MLM experiences and joke about some of the less obvious red flags in these scams, while she shares her journey over 5 years in Mary Kay.

Show Notes

What is the deal with Melaleuca? - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/kreaer/whats_the_deal_with_melaleuca/

Pink Truth - http://www.pinktruth.com/

Allez-Vous Cosmetics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU9t47bdExE

Why Women Are Quitting Their Side Hustle: Leaving LuLaRoe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU

About the 99% Failure Rate (in Mary Kay)- https://www.pinktruth.com/2019/08/08/about-the-99-failure-rate/

Mary Kay The Derm review - https://thedermreview.com/mary-kay-reviews/

The Ordinary Squalane Cleanser *$7.90/50ml - https://theordinary.deciem.com/us/rdn-squalane-cleanser-50ml.html

The Ordinary Derm review - https://thedermreview.com/the-ordinary-review/

Garnier SkinActive Micellar Cleansing Water, For Waterproof Makeup - https://amzn.to/35dwBKS

LIFE AFTER MLM DOES NOT RECOMMEND SIGNING UP FOR THIS JOKE OF A CREDIT CARD (it's just for WTF's) - XXXXX https://www.firstbankcard.com/common/lp/marykay/index.html XXXXX

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 14, 202101:08:14
Episode 36 : Rebecca - Once Upon a Biz - Part 2

Episode 36 : Rebecca - Once Upon a Biz - Part 2

In the conclusion of Rebecca's story, we get a bit deeper into the cult aspects and what she started to see and experience. While her new life as a mom was keeping her busy, and her husband's new career kept him away from the weekly team meetings, things with Amway began to unravel. Rebecca and I discuss different elements of the BITE Model that she personally knew were happening, what it's like to buy your rank, and how "Diamonds" are REALLY made.

Show Notes

Once Upon a Biz Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/onceuponabiz/

Gretchen Wieners is "such a good friend" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ovOboVwB7g

How Amway Ruined my Marriage - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9t40an/how_amway_ruined_my_marriage_long/

Amway Ruined my Life - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2012/09/amway-ruined-my-life.html

My SO is over a year deep in Amway - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/824m39/my_so_is_over_a_year_deep_in_amway/

Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

On Becoming a God in Central Florida Episode 1 - https://www.sho.com/video/68672/on-becoming-a-god-series-premiere-tvma

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 08, 202159:25
Episode 35 : Rebecca - Once Upon a Biz - Part 1

Episode 35 : Rebecca - Once Upon a Biz - Part 1

Rebecca, the AntiMLM force behind the IG account "Once Upon a Biz", spent 10 years of her life in the cult of Amway. While under their spell, she found herself slowly changing and shifting not only her attitude and focus, but her religious and political views as well. She met her husband while in what she describes as her "hunbot" phase, and shares what it's like navigating a marriage formed in the cult, once you've left. I've heard of some culty MLM behavior, but this one takes the cake.

Show Notes

Once Upon a Biz Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/onceuponabiz/

Amway North America (Formerly Quixtar) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway_North_America

Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway

Amway: The Untold Story Cultism In Amway - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/cultism.htm

"This is my story Amway is a religious cult" - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/basst3/this_is_my_story_amway_is_a_religious_cult_im/

How MLMs And Cults Use The Same Mind Control Techniques - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/multilevel-marketing-companies-mlms-cults-similarities_l_5d49f8c2e4b09e72973df3d3

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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Jun 06, 202101:04:26
Episode 34: Chelsea Flores and The Story of Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness

Episode 34: Chelsea Flores and The Story of Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness

*Content Warning* This story contains the exploitation of minors as young as 16, in a "Student Financial Assistance" scam. Those who are sensitive to stories like this, please use your best judgement before proceeding.

Chelsea Flores was a young woman living in the Philippines, when she heard about a financial assistance scam targeting young students in her area. The opportunity, Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness, an MLM headed by a narcissistic cult-like leader, looked too good to be true. Although she was not a victim of Zafire, she knew she had to help the students get justice by telling their story on social media, hoping to get anyone's attention. In this bonus episode, we try to make sense of the scam known as Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness.

After Chelsea contacted me, I reached out to my friend Alanda Carter of the Recovering Hunbot and asked her if she would do a deep dive on the "business" and it's egomaniacal leader while I talked to the victims. The link to her expose can be found in the show notes.

Show Notes

Recovering Hunbot's "Is Michael Medina's Zafire Club & Student Financial Assistance Scamming Innocent People" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVlednxRY8w

Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness - https://www.facebook.com/ZafireClubOfficial2020/

Zafire Student Financial Assistance Legit ba? Honest Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLUkVU9MdFA

Zafire Student Financial Assistance Orientation with Michael Medina - https://www.facebook.com/100937454680100/videos/431323424915900

Strongest typhoon of 2020 slams the Philippines, killing at least 10 - https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/asia/philippines-super-typhoon-goni-landfall-intl-hnk/index.html

Zafire Studdent Awareness Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/444710573546612/

Data Privacy Act - https://www.privacy.com.ph/learn-data-privacy-compliance/data-privacy-faqs/

Zafire Reddit- https://www.reddit.com/r/PyramidScamPH/comments/hxpww7/curious_about_zafire/

Zafire is on 24 Oras with English Subtitles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wflo5HDt_rU

Chelsea's Channel "The Story After MLM Control" -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAb8AUb5o05E4Rmkq5fZk4w

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 26, 202147:03
Episode 33 : "Ruth" - Part 2

Episode 33 : "Ruth" - Part 2

*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion.

In part 2, "Ruth" finishes her story about her time in Pure Romance and shares what she started to experience as soon as higher education came into her life. We talk about the aspects of Pyramid Schemes and how certain things she personally saw mirrored Robert FitzPatrick's teachings on what the cornerstones are. Now that "Ruth" is AntiMLM, she shares some of her favorite creators and resources for support and education, and we chat about the future of the movement.

Show Notes

Sex and HIV Education - https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/sex-and-hiv-education?gclid=CjwKCAjw-qeFBhAsEiwA2G7Nl7q1sPQYTzx8yqWsP3tNKlal58tj30GoLh_ezh4So2CHnrLoo4JrDRoCiZgQAvD_BwE

Not The Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw

Monica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989

iilluminaughtii - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpDmn2FfVYdPIDwRTcf5-OA

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 24, 202101:09:09
Episode 32 : "Ruth" - Part 1

Episode 32 : "Ruth" - Part 1

*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion.

"Ruth" joined Pure Romance when her previous MLM, Slumber Parties was bought out and they were merged together. For 7 years, she was at the top 5% of the company, educating on sexual health and wellness, or so she thought. Despite any gut feelings, she stayed because she genuinely loved connecting with her customers. After realizing that some of the people she was helping needed a lot more than she could offer, "Ruth" found her true calling.

Show Notes

Slumber Parties/Pure Romance merger - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pure-romance-llc-acquires-slumber-parties-240825911.html

Kinsey Institute - https://kinseyinstitute.org/

Me and the "Giant Lollipop" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CNbSljMlRA4/

Cal Exotics Products - https://amzn.to/3bN7BxP

Pure Romance Dupes - https://www.skinsafeproducts.com/pure-romance

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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May 23, 202101:09:12
Episode 31 : Chelsea Suarez

Episode 31 : Chelsea Suarez

Another Bonus episode! And this time it's with my girl, Chelsea! You may know her from her YouTube Channel where she does deep dives into MLM companies, talks to former 1%, and exposes scammers, among other things. We chat about her new gig as a full time content creator, her personal experiences in MLM, and the differences she's seen between being an actual sales professional, vs an MLM rep. Plus, Chelsea's beef with Monat, and what you can do to help too.

Show Notes

Chelsea's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/CCSuarez

Chelsea's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@iamccsuarez?

Chelsea's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iamccsuarez/

Chelsea's Linktree - https://linktr.ee/iamccsuarez

Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath  - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath

Chloe + Isabel closes - https://www.businessforhome.org/2019/07/mlm-company-chloe-and-isabel-will-close-business/

Monat Deep Dive - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLMukadDHtI

Ashley Moody, FL AG - http://www.myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/1515CE372E59D1E885256CC60071B1C4

GOT Petyr Baelish "Motives" speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdpcyovK0ZU

DEAR BOSS BABE: A RESPONSE FOR COLD MESSAGES | OPEN LETTER TO NETWORK MARKETERS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dekiL3MVa0

Monat issuing refunds following Florida Attorney General investigation into hair care product claims - https://www.wrtv.com/news/wrtv-investigates/monat-issuing-refunds-following-florida-attorney-general-investigation-into-hair-care-product-claims#:~:text=Consumers%20who%20believe%20they%20are,the%20refund%20request%20form%20here.

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 19, 202101:12:11
Episode 30 : "Moira"

Episode 30 : "Moira"

"Moira" was a stay at home mom of 3 boys, who bought into the hype of MLM in 2016. While chasing the dream of being at the top of the pyramid, "Moira" found herself involved with 3 different MLMs, including an elusive invitation to a "Ground Floor Opportunity". From her vantage point, she got a deep look into the toxic positivity of MLM, and experienced more psychological manipulation than she bargained for.

Show Notes

Millennial Women Made LuLaRoe Billions. Then They Paid The Price. - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits

Is Color Street A Scam? 5 Reasons Why You Should Avoid This MLM! - https://youraffiliatesalary.com/is-color-street-a-scam

The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296

You know those bags with the clear pockets to display your MLM haul? - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/al43ta/you_know_those_bags_with_the_clear_pockets_to/

What is Toxic Positivity? - https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958#:~:text=Toxic%20positivity%20is%20the%20belief,vibes%20only%22%20approach%20to%20life.

What is Gaslighting? - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting#:~:text=Gaslighting%20is%20a%20form%20of,and%20unable%20to%20trust%20themselves.

Manipulative people hook their victims with a tactic called 'love bombing' — here are the signs you've been a target - https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-love-bombing-2017-7

How to Leave an MLM - https://www.finder.com/how-to-leave-an-mlm

Brene Brown - https://brenebrown.com/

I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Making the Journey from "What Will People Think?" to "I Am Enough" - https://amzn.to/2SKHRv4

Simon Sinek - "Leaders Eat Last" - https://amzn.to/3wfduvv

Simon Sinek - "Start With Why" - https://amzn.to/2SVPHSP

Monica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 16, 202101:15:22
Episode 29 : Megan Williams - Part 2

Episode 29 : Megan Williams - Part 2

In the conclusion of Megan's story, she shares her struggles with Senegence, the predatory and toxic nature of what she experienced inside the cult, and how she got out and moved on. We also connect on a personal level and find out we have a lot more in common that just MLM (which is a pattern of coincidence I'm starting to see on this show...).

Show Notes

Megan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQs

Erica McBeth YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1lJDzOZshmJPn76_J4kKg

52 New Friends - https://amzn.to/33IqBcp

American Foundation for Suicide Prevention - https://afsp.org/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 10, 202101:01:53
Episode 28 : Megan Williams - Part 1

Episode 28 : Megan Williams - Part 1

As an addict in recovery, Megan was targeted in her sacred Tuesday Night meeting by a seemingly friendly looking, tattooed woman who she connected with. Over a cup of coffee, she's pitched the beauty MLM, Senegence and decides to start her "business". Over the course of her time with the company, Megan started to notice things weren't what she signed up for. Thankfully for us, she's spilling all the SeneTea.

Show Notes

Megan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQs 

Million Dollar Lips: A Journey into the Hearts of Women and Business - https://amzn.to/3utlZlO

SeneGence Compensation Plan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuLQL65Miz4

Senegence 2020 IDS - https://cdn.colorstreet.com/content/documents/incomedisclosure-2020.pdf

SENEGENCE INCOME CLAIMS DATABASE - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/senegence-income-claims-database/

Senegence and The DSA - https://www.dsa.org/forms/CompanyFormPublicMembers/view?id=7F300001010

Senegence Foundation Swatch Chart - https://swakbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IMG_0778.png

Senegence Crown Princess Ring - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/240450067590518223/

Can You Make Money with Senegence? - https://www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/money-senegence-review

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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May 09, 202101:03:40
Episode 27 : Ioanna & Aaron - Sip With Me

Episode 27 : Ioanna & Aaron - Sip With Me

In this bonus episode, I interview the hosts of Sip with Me about their MLM themed, second season. I had so much fun talking with Ioanna and Aaron last summer on their show, that I had to have them on mine! They recount what they learned diving into the Anti MLM world, their own cringey experiences with MLM, how it invaded their personal and professional spaces and even share an MLM inspired cocktail created just for the show!

Show Notes

Sip with Me Podcast - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast

Sip with Me Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sipwithme_/

My episode with Ioanna & Aaron! - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/27d46f9a/s2-e5-anti-mlm-movement-with-roberta-blevins

How lobbying dollars prop up pyramid schemes - https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/8/5590550/alleged-pyramid-schemes-lobbying-ftc

Direct Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/

Multi Level Marketing for Personal Trainers - Is it Ethical? - https://www.instituteofpersonaltrainers.com/blog/multi-level-marketing-for-personal-trainers-is-it-ethical

Murder Murder News - https://murdermurder.news/

Art of Sucre - https://artofsucre.com/

Holly Nicols - https://www.hnicholsillustration.com/

Coyote Ugly Las Vegas - https://www.coyoteuglysaloon.com/vegas/

The Call Center Scam - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/232b1e97/s3-e4-call-center-scam

True Crime with Diane Fanning - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/bc5b684a/s3-e5-true-crime-with-diane-fanning

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 05, 202101:04:41
Episode 26 : Amanda Sekiguchi - Part 2

Episode 26 : Amanda Sekiguchi - Part 2

In the conclusion of Amanda's story, we finish up the BITE model and talk about the artificial "mentorship" and friendships of MLM. Once she understood what was actually happening, she became fiercely protective of her groups outside of Amway and started to realize that this wasn't what she signed up for. Her and her husband decided that it was time to leave, and shortly after things began to change.

Show Notes

Steven Hassan’s BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvav

LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6n

Josie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw

Savy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA

Haley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=en

Nutrilite - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrilite

The Pyramid of Amway - https://arrestyourdebt.com/amway-pyramid-scheme/

Amway Made China a Billion-Dollar Market. Now It Faces a Crackdown. - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/business/amway-china.html

What Happened When China Joined the WTO? - https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/trade/what-happened-when-china-joined-wto

Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway

Direct Selling in China: Multi-Level Marketing, But Not As You Know It - https://www.tmogroup.asia/direct-selling-in-china-multi-level-marketing/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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May 03, 202153:13
Episode 25 : Amanda Sekiguchi - Part 1

Episode 25 : Amanda Sekiguchi - Part 1

Amanda and her husband were newly transplanted into Southern California for work, and looking for some mentorship and direction in life when she met a nice girl offering just that at a coffee shop. She was quickly swept up into the controlling nature of the oldest MLM in the world, Amway. Amanda and I talk about what life was like inside the cult, the BITE Model, and Amway's odd fixation on married couples and The American Dream.

Show Notes

Josie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw

Savy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA

Haley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=en

Why is California so Expensive? - https://sunlightliving.com/why-is-california-so-expensive/

World Wide Group - https://www.wwghq.com/

Robert Kiyosaki and Multi-Level Marketing Exposed! - https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/robert-kiyosaki-and-multi-level-marketing-exposed/

How Amway Ruined my Marriage - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9t40an/how_amway_ruined_my_marriage_long/

Beware Of Amway Mentors? - http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/2017/05/beware-of-amway-mentors.html

Steven Hassan’s BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvav

LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6n

Extreme Ownership - https://amzn.to/3eBVG6s

The Go-Giver - https://amzn.to/2QBlyaK

Start with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action - https://amzn.to/3333SaC

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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May 02, 202159:57
Episode 24 : Skip Press - The 1995 Tax Fraud of Sunrider, International

Episode 24 : Skip Press - The 1995 Tax Fraud of Sunrider, International

In the early 1990's Skip Press was a newlywed with a son on the way, looking for an alternative to the freelance life he was currently living; the thought of a corporate job with consistent, steady pay was enticing. He was hired on as the new Communications Director, and placed in charge of the huge yearly convention for a HUGE Multi Level Marketing company with juicy secrets. Things started to get weird almost immediately, as Skip recounts late night meetings, confidential confessions, volatile work environments, bogus health claims, and shocking evidence for future investigations in what he calls "the rocky ride on the chariot to the sun".

Show Notes

Skip Press - http://www.skippress.com/

"Mormon Tea" - https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-569/mormon-tea

NCAHF Position Paper on Over-the Counter Herbal Remedies (1995) - https://quackwatch.org/ncahf/pp/herbal/

Two Plead Guilty in Massive Tax, Customs Fraud Case - https://quackwatch.org/cases/doj/chen/plea/

Firm's Owners Indicted on Tax Evasion - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-02-fi-37974-story.html

UNITED STATES v. CHEN - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1368185.html

The regeneration of Dr. Chen - https://easyreadernews.com/profile-regeneration-dr-chen-doctors-tei-fu-oi-len-chen-meld-traditional-chinese-herbalism-western-science-billion-dollar-worldwide-nutritional-supplements-company/

OrrinPAC PAC Donors - http://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/orrinpac/C00235572/donors/2008

DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/

Herbal company aims to put tax scandal behind it - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-09-fi-sunrider9-story.html

Prosecutors Say Sunrider Made Profits Vanish in Import Abuse - https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB852589146988401500

Traditional Chinese Medicine: What You Need To Know - https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/traditional-chinese-medicine-what-you-need-to-know

Li Ching-Yuen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 28, 202101:04:50
Episode 23 : Belen Bradford

Episode 23 : Belen Bradford

Hey! A little call to action before we jump into this next story, I need your help! I am working on some ideas for future episodes, but I can't do it without you! Just hear me out hun, this could be an exciting opportunity for you! Afterwards, listen to the story of Belen, who was looking for friendship, confidence and community, but instead found gaslighting, manipulation and bullying from the same people she thought were her friends.

Show Notes

https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message

https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

https://www.instagram.com/therealrobertablevins/

https://www.facebook.com/therealrobertablevins

LuLaNo - https://www.reddit.com/r/LuLaNo/

TINA Senegence Income Claims - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/senegence-income-claims-database/

Can You Make Money With Lipsense - https://www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/money-senegence-review

How much can you earn with MLM Nu Skin? - https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-much-can-you-earn-with-mlm-nu-skin/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 25, 202139:07
Episode 22 : Liz Arias - Part 2

Episode 22 : Liz Arias - Part 2

CONTENT WARNING : In this episode, we break down the deceptive and dangerous dealings of Mr. "Doctor" Donald Gary Young, founder of Young Living. We talk about many things that may be triggering to people, including infanticide. Please listen at your own discretion.

In the second half of Liz's story, we talk about the random cause and effect that lead to her ending her Herbalife business, her time as a Young Living "kitnapper" and our common experiences in the beauty industry.

Show Notes

Students Defrauded by Marinello Schools of Beauty Obtain Belated Discharges After Filing Suit Against the Department of Education - https://www.nclc.org/media-center/students-defrauded-by-marinello-schools.html

Hattori Hanzo Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/Barber/comments/dldbo6/can_we_talk_about_how_hanzo_cheaply_makes_shears/

Aura Cacia Essential Oils - https://www.auracacia.com/

Plant Therapy Essential Oils - https://www.planttherapy.com/

Young Living Income Disclosure Statement - https://www.oildropinn.com/income-disclosure

A Dangerous Mind: Gary Young - http://gary-young-fraud.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-dangerous-mind-gary-young.html

Donald Gary Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Gary_Young (sources for above claims can be found at the bottom of this wiki)

Revive "Young Living Joy" essential oil blend Dupe - https://www.revive-eo.com/product/joy-essential-oil-blend/?gclid=CjwKCAiAkJKCBhAyEiwAKQBCkrf_TBFExj4fPI5Sn056DcK_AnPzlDQYZM_rfTYvYioq2F_QnuxkZRoCHPQQAvD_BwE

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 19, 202153:57
Episode 21 : Liz Arias - Part 1

Episode 21 : Liz Arias - Part 1

When MLM found Liz, she was looking to up her game on the roller derby circuit. One of her derby friends reached out with a solution that answered of her problems, or so it seemed. Liz decided to go "all in" after a roller derby injury resulted in her losing her job as a cocktail waitress at a local casino.  In this episode, we get deep into what it's like to sell Herbalife, what's the deal with those "Nutrition Shops", Betting on Zero and what happened to the latino population in Los Angeles during that time, and a professional's opinion on Monat.

Show Notes

Herbalife Income Disclosure 2011 - https://seekingalpha.com/article/1082471-herbalifes-magical-disclosure-math-doesnt-add-up

Betting on Zero - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_on_Zero 

Toxic Positivity - https://www.instagram.com/p/CL4juJ-F3nK/ 

Cayman Islands - https://www.google.com/search?q=cayman+islands+income+tax&oq=cayman+is&aqs=chrome.3.0i67i355i433j46i67i433j69i57j0i67l3j0i433j0i67l2j0i433.5931j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 

5 Facts From ‘Betting on Zero,’ the Infuriating Doc About Herbalife Preying on Latinos - https://remezcla.com/lists/film/betting-on-zero-documentary-2016-tribeca-film-festival/ 

Why Did Kamala Harris Let Herbalife Off The Hook? - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-did-kamala-harris-let-herbalife-off-the-hook_n_5c8fab16e4b03e83bdc39a37 

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS 

Monat Lawsuits - https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/monat-lawsuits/ 

Alterna Haircare - https://www.sephora.com/brand/alterna 

Victims Of Hair Transformations Detox - https://www.facebook.com/VictimsHairDetox/ 

How can you help? 

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ 

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org 

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/ 

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Apr 19, 202154:52
Episode 20 : Josie Naikoi - The BITE Model - Part 2

Episode 20 : Josie Naikoi - The BITE Model - Part 2

Josie and I finish up the BITE Model in part 2, diving into the Informational and Emotional control of commercial cults. Afterwards we discuss the DSA and politics in MLM, an inside perspective into those "free" perks, the culture and dynamics of the top of the pyramid, and a little personal chat and look into our lives outside of our Anti MLM advocacy efforts.

Show Notes

Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

DC Talk - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Talk

Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open [Official Video] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLGHcj_fmA

Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remini:_Scientology_and_the_Aftermath

Alanda Carter, The Recovering Hunbot - https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRecoveringHunbot/videos

Josie's Interview with Me! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5NaeVYKOlY&t=5651s

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

Books by Steven Hassan:

Combatting Cult Mind Control - https://amzn.to/3uLhYco

The Cult of Trump - https://amzn.to/32dKdnE

Freedom of Mind - https://amzn.to/3tlxYkT

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 15, 202157:58
Episode 19 : Josie Naikoi - The BITE Model - Part 1

Episode 19 : Josie Naikoi - The BITE Model - Part 1

You asked, and we answered! In this bonus episode, I talk to AntiMLM Advocate, "Not the Good Girl", Josie Naikoi about her time in MLM as the Top 1%, and our favorite topic to ramble on about, the BITE model.

Show Notes

Not the Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw/featured

Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan - https://amzn.to/3uLhYco

"Because of Deanne" - https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseofdeanne/

TikTok Hun - https://www.tiktok.com/@danascentedlifestyle/video/6885071802985467137?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6939536475465729541

When not even giving birth can slow down a hun. - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/chic0f/when_not_even_giving_birth_can_slow_down_a_hun/

Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 14, 202101:01:14
Episode 18 : Russ Nielsen - Part 2

Episode 18 : Russ Nielsen - Part 2

As if his story in part one couldn't get any weirder, in part two Russ tells us about his experience of heading to a big ACN convention where Donald Trump, star of The Apprentice, would be speaking at.  He recounts his trip, including fudge inspired doowop, and odd encounter with an employee in the lobby of McDonalds. We get deep into the celebrity and political affiliations with ACN, how men are targeted by MLMs, and getting out of the MLM Complex.

Show Notes

Experience the excitement of ACN events! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EQNcnx7AZg

ACN Convention circa 2006 - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x317ow

I couldn't find "My Fudge", but please enjoy this other Fudge Parody of "Runaround Sue" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfQuYA2Yd4

This is a Pro-MLM article about celebs and MLM's, but it makes great points as to why these scams appeal to celebs and the predatory use of the "opportunity"; Why Celebrities are Partnering with Network Marketing Companies - https://www.thesocialcelebrity.com/featuresblog/2019/12/10/why-celebrities-are-partnering-with-network-marketing-companies

ACN & Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQ

Jim Rohn "The Magic of Part Time" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFR3Dx377ME

FOX 11 Investigates ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WDt-2SKFs

The Slave Circle (Direct Marketing Devil Corp. Documentary) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyCRzBt7GuY

Deceptive Income Disclosures Power MLM Recruiting And Expansion - https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/deceptive-income-disclosures-power-mlm-recruiting-and-expansion-2016-03-30

The Persuasian Pitch Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-persuasion-pitch/id1546523817

Windermere Candle Company - https://windermerecandleco.com/

Betting on Zero - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_on_Zero

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 12, 202101:17:37
Episode 17 : Russ Nielsen - Part 1

Episode 17 : Russ Nielsen - Part 1

In this episode, we get to meet our very first "BroBot", Russ Nielsen, who had an incredibly unbelievable experience in a serviced based MLM. In an effort to keep Russ motivated and "all in" with their scam, his upline kept pushing attending big events, even when he couldn't afford to go. Even with the strange and abusive treatment he received, the dopamine fueled parties kept Russ on the hook, right up until the sunk cost fallacy kicked in when he went to Baltimore to hear Donald Trump speak.

Show Notes

ACN Opportunity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0uZk-KIPk

ACN Customer Acquisition Scripts - http://www.xschampions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tony_cupiszscript.pdf

Rotten Apples - https://www.itamer.com/its-good-to-be-a-rotten-apple/262/

ACN and Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQ

Donald Trump promotes ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbIih4RghUQ

Sunk Cost Fallacy - https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7vRRiFoLE/

ACN International Event December 2006 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcPaPOVBCY0

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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Apr 11, 202101:18:40
Episode 16 : Robert L. FitzPatrick - Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme - Part 2

Episode 16 : Robert L. FitzPatrick - Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme - Part 2

In part 2, Robert and I finish up our analysis into the differences between MLMs and Pyramid Schemes, answer some questions from our listeners, discuss what the future of the Anti-MLM movement looks like and how to achieve the cohesive message that we both believe will change the future of how people view and understand Multi Level Marketing on a fundamental level.

Show Notes:

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3wr4Yu7

How Does Multi Level Marketing (MLM) Work? - https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/multi-level-marketing-explained

It Works! "Powdered Celery" - https://static.myitworks.com/productsheets/34800/34800-productinfo-en.pdf

Bernie Madoff - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff

Spanish Prisoner Scam - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner

"Advance-Fee Scam" (Nigerian Prince) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam

Direct Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/

Jon Taylor's The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf

Steven Hassan's Freedom of Mind Resource - https://freedomofmind.com/

The Dream - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296

Multilevel Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Apr 08, 202101:10:05
Episode 15 : Robert L. FitzPatrick - Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme - Part 1

Episode 15 : Robert L. FitzPatrick - Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme - Part 1

This is the bonus episode I have been waiting to record forever! I always enjoy all my conversations with Robert, because he's so knowledgeable on this subject and we have a great time talking about swindles, scams, tricks and flimflams. After I finished reading Ponzinomics, I immediately emailed Robert and asked him if he would be willing to talk with me on the podcast about his chapter "Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme", so we can really define what differences there are between Pyramid Schemes and Multi Level Marketing. I think you know where this is going...

Show Notes

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3rLipS1

Pyramid Scheme Alert - https://pyramidschemealert.org/

Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Jon M. Taylor, PhD - https://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/about/jmt.html

The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf

Multi Level Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI

Keith Raniere - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere

Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Apr 07, 202101:17:05
Episode 14 : Dina Hunsicker

Episode 14 : Dina Hunsicker

When MLM came knocking, Dina was a young newlywed. Even though she grew up with MLM all around her, she never actually fully experienced the insidous cult until she joined one. She felt like she couldn't talk about her experiences because of who had recruited her, but decided it was time to share her experiences about how ridiculous it all really was. We had A LOT of laughs while Dina recapped her journey with the magic blueberry power of Kyani. 

Show Notes

5 HEALTH BENEFITS OF THE WILD ALASKAN BLUEBERRY - https://blog.thewellnessuniverse.com/5-health-benefits-alaskan-blueberry/

Kyani Done For You Business Model - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg_Izi9YNr4

What you should know about Kyani - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/what-you-should-know-about-kyani/

Kyani Potato Pak - https://kyani.com/us/kyani-potato-pak/

Kyäni Caring Hands Tanzania Africa Trip 2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTvXMW34tU

Kyani Caring Hands Charity Navigator rating - https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/810829674

White Guilt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt

Mel Robbins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Robbins

How Chemotherapy Helps Fight Lupus and Other Autoimmune Diseases - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-chemotherapy-helps-fight-lupus-and-other-autoimmune-diseases-101915

Kyani hit with Pyramid Scheme allegations - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-hit-pyramid-scheme-complaint/

Kyani Pyramid Scheme Claims - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-pyramid-scheme-claims/

KYANI, HEAD SCIENTIST DOUBLE DOWN ON INAPPROPRIATE HEALTH CLAIMS - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-head-scientist-double-inappropriate-health-claims/

Qutab v. Kyani, Inc - https://casetext.com/case/qutab-v-kyani-inc

Kyani IDS - https://download.kyani.net/Business%20Documents/Ky%C3%A4ni%20US%20Distributor%20Income%20Disclosure-11.15-en-us.pdf

Founders of Kyani die in plane crash - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-plane-crash-victims-identified-idaho-business-executives-family-n1094016

Why a new online makeup trend could be doing more harm than good for Black communities - https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/why-the-new-online-makeup-trend-could-be-doing-more-harm-than-good-for-black-communities/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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Apr 04, 202101:06:26
Episode 13 : Income Disclosure Statements

Episode 13 : Income Disclosure Statements

In this bonus episode, I tackle the age old question of "How much can you make PER HOUR in MLM?" by analyzing 14 different MLM's Income Disclosure Statements, and using averages to find out. I take the annual average wages, divide by 12 to get the monthly figure, then divide by 80 hours a month for part time wages. I think the results may shock you. For comparison, we also talk about minimum wages, livable wages, living comfortably, and what the going rate for labor is in the US Prison System.

*I do say the wrong thing in this episode, stating I divided the monthly figure by 20 to get part time pay, but I meant to say "divide by 80" (20 hours x 4 weeks) so forgive me, because the math still checks out.*

Show Notes!

"Living Comfortably" : https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/living-wage-income-to-live-comfortably-in-every-us-state

Prison Labor Wages : https://isps.yale.edu/news/blog/2013/10/time-to-reckon-with-prison-labor-0#

Livable Wage Info  : https://livingwage.mit.edu/articles/61-new-living-wage-data-for-now-available-on-the-tool#

Lollipop Moments : https://www.ted.com/talks/drew_dudley_everyday_leadership?language=en

"What does an average MLM or Network Marketing Distributor make per year?" : https://www.mlminsider.com/articles/what-does-an-average-mlm-or-network-marketing-distributor-make-per-year

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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