Welcome to the weekly podcast for people craving, richer relationships, fulfilling community, healthier masculinity, and permission to create. Every week, the husband-and-wife team of Charles Matheus & Kelly Roberge generate conversation about things that matter with their characteristic empathy, warmth and insight. Guests include, relationship coaches, business leaders, musicians, youth advocates, and artists, all who are willing to take the discussion to new heights and new depths.
We’re both struggling with grief, anger, and shame this week. Are you? Our country is showing it's deep fracture lines and the pain is real. Creating justice through thoughtful, individual, and collective action is only goal that matters We know it’s not easy, but let’s spend some time together getting to the bottom of our feelings and beliefs and then moving toward some useful action.
We had planned this week to talk about creativity, but the police killings (George Floyd, Tony McDade, Sean Reed and Breonna Taylor), the unequal way COVID 19 is infecting and killing black and brown people, and the long-term affect the economic crisis is going to have on already marginalized people won’t let us talk about anything other than race today. And really, these issues directly relate to the pillars of this podcast, particularly community and masculinity.
We’ll be talking about our own personal experiences, knowing that white experience so often drowns out the experiences of others. But it’s what we have to work with and from. We live in a VERY white area, but we feel strongly that we are also part of national and global communities, and we’ll do what we can to facilitate conversations that serve all.
We’re going to do our best to create an open space for one another and you, our beloved audience. We’re going to bring our usual blend of curiosity, warmth, and empathy to this episode. But, you all should know, there is pain and anger here… Please, if it shows up in my voice or if it shows up in your head, please breath and lean in. If we pull back, we’re done for. We need you.
Anti-racist activists are making it very clear. We live in an unjust and violent system and it is up to us - middling white folks - to get off the fence and off the couch and fix it. We hope this exploration will take us in the right direction.
Jane Elliot - former third-grade school teacher, anti-racism activist, and educator
Genesee County Sheriff Chris Swanson joins protesters as they walk for George Floyd
Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields talking and listening to protesters
Washington Post Reports - Audio Story about Christian Cooper, the African American Birder
Teri Kanefield Blog
Teatime for the Firefly - Shona Patel - A novel about a young girl growing up in India.
Anti-racism resources for white people
Check out Charles’ Blog
A guide to how you can support marginalized communities - CNN
Music Credits: Metamorphosis - Phillip Glass
When Bill Konigsberg was a teen, there were no novels featuring young gay men. Thanks to him, gay teens today can’t say the same. In his latest novel, though, the sexual preference of his protagonists is almost incidental. Max and Jordan are in the middle becoming adults, and their struggle to integrate pain, joy, capacity, and weakness into their wholeness makes this book totally relevant for those of us who are still growing… that is - everybody.
Bill Konigsberg is the award-winning author of six young adult novels. THE PORCUPINE OF TRUTH won the PEN Center USA Literary Award and the Stonewall Book Award in 2016. OPENLY STRAIGHT won the Sid Fleischman Award for Humor, was a finalist for the Amelia Elizabeth Walden Award and Lambda Literary Award in 2014 and has been translated into five languages. His debut novel, OUT OF THE POCKET, won the Lambda Literary Award in 2009. THE MUSIC OF WHAT HAPPENS, was released in February of 2019, received two starred reviews, and has been optioned for a film. His next novel, THE BRIDGE, will be released in the fall of 2020. In 2018, The National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE)’s Assembly on Literature for Adolescents (ALAN) established the Bill Konigsberg Award for Acts and Activism for Equity and Inclusion through Young Adult Literature.
Before Bill wrote for young adults, he was a sports writer and editor for ESPN and the Associated Press. Charles met and got to know Bill through their shared work helping create initiations for men - the Mankind Project - and boys at Boys to Men. Charles was immediately drawn to Bill’s intelligence, vulnerability, and attentiveness.
Bill lives in Phoenix, Arizona, with his husband, Chuck and their two Australian Labradoodles, Mabel and Buford, who complete him. Mabel and Buford have professional glamour shots on Bill’s website. I fell hard for Buford - you might, too.
Bill’s books - the one we read, anyway - are filled with real people of all stripes, not token stereotypes or caricatures. They are dealing with real and relatable problems and struggles, and being gay isn’t the most notable thing about them. They are regular people who just happen to be gay. Bill creates a world that is familiar for some of us - especially those of us who grew up in the arts or in places like Jerome, AZ - where being gay and out is unremarkable. We found it refreshing and a relief to spend time there and we really loved getting to know Jordan and Max and their friends and family. We definitely want to read the rest of Bill’s books, especially the new book: The Bridge that is available for pre-order now.
The ManKind Project
Mental Health Helpline
Is the masked man a hero or a villain?
These days we’re seeing some very emotional division around the decision to wear a mask in public and whether staying home is cowardly or going out is reckless. Today we are going to dig into that and see what’s under the mask.
In this episode, we’ll be looking at the value of freedom, definitions of masculinity, ideas of strength, and how our society is structured as well as experimenting with empathy, framing, and connection. Charles will have a rant and Kelly will play devil’s advocate.
So stay tuned if you want support around doing the right thing, even when it’s unpopular [with fringe elements]. We want to know what you think about how to balance freedom with responsibility so we hope you’ll comment in the Rocket Feather Community Lab Group or by leaving a phone message at Anchor.fm/rocketfeather
Charles's Blog Post "New Strength vs. Old Strength and The Great Mask Debate"
Charles's TEDx Talk "Redefining Strength for the 21st Century"
Vanity Fair Article by Ed Yong Why the Pandemic is So Confusing
Stasia Rivera’s Website
Daryl Davis: Crossing Boundaries with Respect
Earl Hipp, Man Making
Bill Konigsberg Website
Music Credits: Bensounds
Are you missing live music and the sense of community you feel when out on the town? Are you craving connection with the creative energy of your favorite musicians and artists?
This week we’ve got the certified biggest voice in town plus our favorite guitar genius - in the HOUSE! Literally, in our house - don’t worry we stayed in our own corners.
Grammy-nominated singer Candace Devine and local rock god Drew Hall join us for a no holds barred talk about creativity, re-invention, and community, as well as playing some music to lift your spirits. We used several of the fan-submitted questions to pry into the life and history and thoughts of our passionately creative guests.
Candace has been a professional singer since her early 20s, working with Christina Aguilera, Styx, the Four Tops and many others in the recording studio and out on the road touring. In this episode, we find out that she is both a champion equestrian coach AND a cat enchantress. Also, she swears like a sailor, so proceed at your own risk #totally worth it.
Drew is a former banker who defied the 9-5 life at his earliest opportunity, going on to be in every kind of band, teach guitar to young and old musicians alike, and curate exceptional music shows here in Prescott. In pre-Covid times, Drew could be spotted playing with the Cheektones, Summa Totius, THiS Trio with Slim Gamble of Lady Antebellum fame, Drew & Anton, and many many more!
3This podcast episode hits a lot of the superlative buttons: longest, loudest, biggest recording challenge, most cat input, most social media engagement, and definitely the most musical. Candace and Drew played two songs for us live, and we play you the recording of “Don’t Worry Child (Rosalyn)” their newest collaboration and entry into the NPR Tiny Desk Concert. “Don’t Worry Child is ostensibly about Drew’s daughter, but in our view, it’s really for and about all of us living through these stressful times.
Raven Productions website
Candace Devine Website
Bon Jovi - Livin’ on a Prayer
Raven Productions Friday Feature
Drew’s Favorite Guitarist - Richie Kotzen covering Sara Smiles
Drew & Candace songs
Under the episode intro and featured in the podcast - Don’t Worry Child (Roslyn)
"Givin it Up/Medly"
"You Got Me"
Under the episode outro - While My Guitar Gently Weeps George Harrison Cover by Candace Devine, Dylan Ludwig and Drew Hall
What if relationships could be easier? What if you knew why your teen, your toddler or your partner was “giving you that face?” And what if you knew how to respond in a way that didn’t suck? What if you could build rather than damage your relationships?
Well this week, we got to talk with a relationship and parenting wizard who has developed a simple system to help us understand ourselves and each other. She explains how, from that foundation of empathy, we can use her basic tools to navigate conflict or misunderstanding to build the connection we all crave. Plus, she helped me figure out how to get the trash to the curb on time.
Our Guest, Stasia Rivera, is a family systems, trauma, and addictions therapist/coach with 25 years experience helping people reach their peaks. Her practice is a unique combination of applied neuroscience, systems thinking, and common sense. She and her team recently recognized that families and young people are experiencing new challenges during this pandemic. They pivoted their whole business model to respond to these needs and are launching a range of accessible and affordable classes and resources. Check them out at IUGOConnect.org.
Psych Theory Trading Cards
James Clear - Habit Theory
Alfie Kohn - Punished by Rewards
Peter Levine - Trauma and Healing
What’s it like to work in the Arctic while riding out the pandemic in Arizona? What’s it like to meet this challenge with a giant heart, a brilliant brain, and a 4-year-old?
International researcher, advocate for women in science, mom, and authentic human, Olivia Lee joins us on this week’s podcast to talk through the challenges of conducting climate research during a pandemic, being separated from family overseas, and coping with the weight of feeling like it’s never enough. I’m not a brilliant scientist, but I’m guessing those are things we can all relate to. Listen on to hear how Olivia’s deep empathy and respect drive her work and keep her going in difficult times.
Increasing our capacity for the “unpleasant” feelings is one of the main goals we have here at RocketFeather. If we can be with those difficult feelings and over time, stop judging ourselves for having them, we are well on our way to being responsive humans rather than reactive ones. That means we can be there for each other instead of just worrying about ourselves.
So thank you all for hanging in here with us as we grow in empathy and resilience and love. Olivia Lee is such a great model for this kind of strength and we feel so privileged to talk with her and count her as a friend.
We hope this healing conversation will continue in the RocketFeather Community Lab, so reach out with your questions and answers and let’s help each other through this time - let’s do that and more. Let’s help each other redefine who we get to be on the other end of it. What are you leaving behind and what are you bringing with you? We want to know.
Books, Podcasts & Poems
Brene Brown Interviews Dr. Mark Brackett
Permission to Feel by Dr. Brackett
[Oh Sweet Spontaneous] poem by e. e. cummings
Sea Ice for Walrus Outlook
Alaska Sea Life Center
Are you already carrying enough metaphorical baggage and second-hand trauma as you sit in your house? Do you find yourself adding to the load with self-recriminations, overly ambitious to-do lists, or a litany of “shoulds?”
Hang out with us today as we chat with someone who knows what it’s like to have high standards… and who is recognizing that maybe she’s using those standards to beat herself up. And maybe it’s time to stop.
Our guest this week is Ida Woll, the owner of our favorite local frame shop and gallery, The Frame & I. She grew up here in Prescott and calls herself a near-native. She bought The Frame & I in 1998 after working there for 3 years and has used her role as a member of the downtown business community to support the arts and non-profits with true commitment. She raises framing to an art form because she, herself, is a life-long artist, and she is passionate about turning people’s sacred objects into real treasures.
Ida is a great guest for all of those reasons and because she has a powerful capacity for self-reflection, vulnerability and humor. We laughed more on this pod than almost any of the others. And we cried, together, a bit too. We hope and trust that this emotional expression is what you’re here for.
The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis
Brene Brown Interviewing Glennon Doyle, author of Untamed
Community Resources and Requests
Schedule a Free Parenting Support Call
Are you an adult person living with your parents? Are you looking at having to move in with your adult kids? Humans lived several generations all together for the vast majority of our history. But that is no longer the norm. Now, there is a sense of failure and frustration, a feeling of lack of freedom and autonomy that comes with parents and their adult children living together, but does it have to be that way? We think not.
In this episode, we tackle the question of how to live more peacefully with family. Whether you are riding out the pandemic under the same roof, or are separated by many miles, getting along with family can be challenging. The relationships we, as children, had with our parents hang around like ghosts, haunting our present interactions, but Charles and Kelly have a framework for thinking about these relationships differently and suggestions for developing a practice that increases capacity for being together in a new way. Join us as we address a listener question and take a deep dive into the kind of personal work that can bring joy back into stressful relationships in stressful times.
Dead Again  starring Kenneth Branagh and Emma Thompson, with Robin Williams
William Glasser’s Choice Theory: 5 Basic Needs
Performance Rock Climbing  by Dale Goddard, Udo Neumann
The National Domestic Violence Hotline/Text Channel
What would it be like if you could rally your whole neighborhood to tackle a serious problem you all share? What would it feel like to help lots of people find strength and solutions they never imagined they had inside themselves? Can you imagine facing a massive crisis like, say, a pandemic, with love, calm, and optimism?
You definitely can if you are today’s guest, Tracey McConnell. A long-time community organizer, non-profit advisor, and personal growth coach, Tracey is no stranger to hardship or challenge, but she meets difficulty with a loving resolve that is truly inspirational. Her special skills help her to bring diverse people together and find the common ground that makes it possible to move into a solution. A skillful facilitator, Tracey leads us in a Focused Conversation to model how we can come together on even the most difficult topics, see the humanity in everyone, and make things better for all. Join us for a refreshing dip into the pool of possibilities on episode 24 of the Rocket Feather Podcast.
Creative Capacities LLC: https://www.CreativeCapacitiesLLC.com Tracey@CreativeCapacitiesLLC.com (928) 925-4020
Tracey on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CreativeCapacitiesLLC/
Rocket Feather Community Lab on Facebook
Institutions We Support & Admire:
Arizona Community Foundation
El Gato Azul
The Raven Cafe
Music Credits: AShamaluevMusic
Quotes: “Between Stimulus and Response There Is a Space. In That Space Is Our Power To Choose Our Response” Charles attributed this quote to Victor Frankel but apparenly the story is more complex. Check it out at Quote Investigator: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/02/18/response/
Are you a little feeling a little concerned? Freaked out? Or strangely numb? Hey, all your emotions are valid. It’s OK.
Join us for this slightly slapdash, but fully engaged podcast episode as Charles shares the emotional stance that helped him prepare his family for the pandemic. He also talks honestly about how he bounced back from overwhelm and grief. In the second half of the pod, Charles explains the cyclical, three phase model for getting through the pandemic and all you all to find ways to lead.
Recommended Twitter Follows
Laura Fitton @pistachio Great curator of info. Also posts dogs, chickens, and lullabyes.
Andy Slavit @ASlavitt Former Medicare, Medicaid, ACA head for Obama Admin
Mike Birbiglia @birbigs So far daily Instagram Live comedy shows
A List Of Live Virtual Concerts To Watch During The Coronavirus Shutdown
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Guest: Dr. Christine P. Stewart, Ph.D.
Associate Professor, Department of Nutrition at UC Davis
Director, Institute for Global Nutrition
As a health researcher, mom, & world traveler, Christine Stewart has an excellent view of the delicate web of health services around the world, and of how communities deal with adverse circumstances. Join us in conversation about how to take responsibility for ourselves and each other during crisis, what makes us resilient, and how we can find opportunities for growth and connection during these turbulent times.
A nutritional epidemiologist, Dr. Stewart wants us to be sure not to confuse her with someone who studies infectious diseases. But this smart, informed, scientist, shares with us her views on how to ride out a pandemic, how to redirect focus on to what’s important and how to stay in community while remaining more than 6 feet apart.
Dr. Stewart’s full bio: https://nutrition.ucdavis.edu/people/christine-stewart
Helen Keller International https://www.hki.org/ A world without barriers to sight, health, and human potential.
Centers for Disease Control [CDC] - https://www.cdc.gov/
Coalition for Compassion and Justice [CCJ] - http://yavapaiccj.org/ Ending and preventing homelessness. We are a service and a solution to those living in homelessness, working toward a just and compassionate community for all!
Yavapai County Food Bank - http://www.yavapaifoodbank.org/ Providing meals, school supplies, computer classes, and more for families in need.
In honor of Int’l Women’s Day, we’re releasing a double live podcast. Each segment is chock full of inspiring women in science, tech, and business. Every guest brought a unique story about passion for science and important insights about overcoming obstacles on the way to realizing that passion.
In honor of Int’l Women’s Day, we’re releasing a double live podcast. Each segment is chock full of inspiring women in science, tech, and business. Every guest brought a unique story about passion for science and important insights about overcoming obstacles on the way to realizing that passion.
We recorded this double episode live at a beer release party and fundraiser for girls in STEM (Sci/tech/eng/math) programs. The party was hosted by Granite Mountain Brewing, a woman owned business.
Our contribution to the party was inviting five different STEM women (and three more showed up)! Two women we invited acted as guest hosts asking questions and guiding the flow. We recorded over two hours of stories, laughter, camaraderie, connection and we’re bringing it to you in two parts so you can pace yourselves.
Olivia Lee - Assistant Professor at University of Alaska - researching climate change in the arctic - mom, graphic designer, andChampion of Women in STEM .
Michelle Baker, Systems analyst and tech consultant - mom - local Tech Champion
Jenn Flaa - NASA Engineer, serial tech entrepreneur, and rock vocalist
Zakiya Shivji - Forest Service geologist and dancer
Valerie Burns - Yavapai Library Network Manager and early women’s IT pioneer
Audra Yamamoto - Engineer, business owner, local instigator
Jen Herbert - Former future Surgeon General, US Business Owner of the Year
Resources & Articles
Granite Mountain Brewing
Olivia Lee’s T-Shirt Fundraiser
Northern Arizona Tech Alliance
Prescott Women Magazine
The Mom Project
A List of Female Heads of State
Want to know the secret to successful relationship?
You know there's not one secret, silly!
A dear friend of Charles's said, "There are some things you can only learn while being alone and there are some things you can only learn by being in relationship.". Take a listen to hear how the two Rocket Feather hosts have constructed a pretty powerful relationship by doing combining what they learned while alone with what they now learn together.
Tickets for the Phoenix College TEDx HERE.
Granite Mountain Brewery Event HERE.
How do we remain true to ourselves while being good members of a community? What kinds of thoughts or attitudes can lead to personal and social healing? How can privileged folks find the courage to engage? Why is there always too much food at a potluck?
We don’t answer all these questions during this one podcast episode but we do have a wonderful, charismatic and thoughtful guide to the issues. Rowdy has worked in the field of diversity and inclusion for over a decade. He is an innovator with a myriad of different workshops informing about issues related to colorblindness, to Interest Based Negotiations, to Nonviolent Communication and Conflict Resolution, to Positive Masculinity, and seeing People as Possibilities.
An engaging and passionate presenter and facilitator, Rowdy is also the director of Paradise Valley Community College’s Diversity, Incorporated, and he is an active member of the Healing Racism Public Dialogue Series. He co-wrote the proposal for Paradise Valley Community College’s Leadership Certificate. He also sits on the Desperado LGBT film festivals screening committee. He produces and delivers his Inclusive Activism Podcast bi-weekly to his thousands of listeners about how the intersections of Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity work are a form of Personal Leadership. He was also a 2014 winner of the Arizona Diversity Alliance’s Diversity Champion Award, as well as the John and Suanne Rouche Award for Excellence for the Community College from the League of Innovation in 2015.
And just when you thought that was enough, Rowdy raises a rescued pit bull named Tank.
Resources & Articles
Inclusive Activism Website
Inclusive Activism and Emerging Evolution Podcasts on Spotify
Phoenix College TEDx Conference - March 4th
How do you build the kind of community you want to live in? It turns out there are a slew of ways to go about it and this week’s guest is putting them all in play. Breeanya uses her platform as a magazine publisher to champion other people, businesses, and projects. In her “spare” time she uses her leadership skills to support important arts and youth nonprofits. And, in the course of this friendly, light-hearted interview, she convinced us that getting outside for a hike is another important way to build community.
Breeanya was born & raised in Prescott, AZ and is a true “Prescott Woman.” She has been the designer and editor of Prescott Woman Magazine since 2008. In 2018 she took the bold step of purchasing the business. Breeanya also owns a graphic design business, BJH Designs, serves on the board for Prescott Center for the Arts, and is a member of the Prescott Valley Economic Development Foundation, and Prescott Women Who Care.
Breeanya was pleased to be one of the recipients of the 2013 Prescott Area Young Professionals Visionary Awards. In 2016, she was a “20 Under 40” winner, one of 20 notable area entrepreneurs, managers, business owners and professionals younger than 40. Breeanya enjoys hiking and exploring in Northern Arizona and the world.
Resources & Businesses
Prescott Woman Magazine
Prescott Athena Awards - Nomination Form
International Athena Awards
The Hike Shack
Gripstone Climbing Gym
Love horror movies? Hate horror movies? Either way, you’ll love this conversation about movies, being married, and how to rock social media. We learned about why horror films work to talk about real social issues, how to use clear communication to work together as a creative couple, how to get over writer’s block and how to bring empathy to social media and marketing.
Angie & Andrew Johnson-Schmit are independent filmmakers and social media strategists who live and work in Prescott, AZ. They have written and directed the horror/comedy short, Dead Votes Society,the web series Diary of a Mad Scientist’s Assistant and Dr. Wanker's Short Adventures. Their debut feature film, Witch Child is currently in post production.
As partners in the social media strategy/management agency, Slackerwriter, LLC, Angie & Andrew consult with non-profits, artists and small businesses to build social media engagement with their followers. They also provide social media support for organizations and individuals interested in achieving engagement with less daily commitment. Their motto is: "Taking up the slack, so you can relax!"
Witch Child Trailer
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Articles, & Events
Social Media for Artists, Nonprofits & Small Businesses - Slacker Writer Workshop
7 Ways to Stop Messing Up Your Social Media - Slacker Writer Blog
5 Ways Marcia Lucas Gave STAR WARS Its Heart
Do you want to live an epic life? Do you want to know how to build sustaining community through small acts? Do you wonder how art folds into a life of leadership? Do you want to hit someone with a foam sword?
We won’t claim that Claire Louge has all the answers but… she kinda does. We strongly recommend you take some time to bask in the honesty, clarity, and passion that Claire brings to this podcast episode. Her personal story covers despair, near death, and recovery. Her professional path charts community, creativity, humility, and leadership.
Claire Louge is the Executive Director of Prevent Child Abuse Arizona, a statewide non-profit organization dedicated to preventing child maltreatment before it happens, and helping those who have experienced childhood trauma build resilience to its effects.
Claire obtained her Bachelor’s degree in Human Development from Cornell University and her Masters of Education in Human Relations from Northern Arizona University. Claire is also a Certified Trauma Support Specialist through the Arizona Trauma Institute, certified by the National Alliance of Children's Trust and Prevention Funds to teach the Strengthening Families™ Protective Factors Framework, and an authorized Stewards of Children® facilitator. She is a graduate of the American Express Leadership Academy at the ASU Lodestar Center and is also an AmeriCorps VISTA alumnus. Claire also volunteers her time to create and produce live action role playing adventure events for teens.
Organizations & Events
Prevent Child Abuse Arizona
Statewide Child Abuse PREVENTION Conference - July 21 & 22
Books & Articles
Things My French Mother Taught Me - Claire Louge
SoulCraft - David Plotkin
Choice Theory - William Glasser
Positive Childhood Experiences
So You Want to Talk About Race - Ijeoma Oluo
Are you wondering why teens are showing up in the news so much over the last eighteen months? Are you curious about why so many are more active, more engaged, more committed, than ever? Join us for an intergenerational Rocket Feather podcast as we try to answer those questions. This week we interview two teen leaders and activists from the Teen Advisory Council, Shannon and Emma, along with their adult mentor, McKenzie MacIntyre.
McKenzie has a bachelor’s degree in psychology with an emphasis in Adolescent Development and is studying toward her M.Ed. in School Counseling. She serves as Coordinator for the Teen Advisory Council at the Launch Pad Teen Center. McKenzie chose Emma (age 16) and Shannon (age 17) to be a part of the podcast because, “Both girls show tremendous strength in leading their peers and being advocates for their community.”
Find out what these smart, passionate teens are doing to make life better for themselves and their generation and how you might fit into their plans.
Youth Movements & Teen Centers
The Launch Pad Teen Center
The Neutral Zone Teen Center
March For Our Lives
Black Lives Matter
Articles, Events & Videos
“Greta Thunberg: Person of the Year” - Time Magazine, December 2019
“From Parkland to Sunrise: A Year of Extraordinary Youth Activism” - New Yorker, Feb 2019
“New Research: Diversity + Inclusion = Better Decision Making At Work” - Forbes Magazine, September 2017.
“Tough Talk with Stasia Rivera” - Teen Advisory Council Event
“The Power of Vulnerability” - Brene Brown
“The Infinite Game” - Simon Sinek
The Evolutionary Power of Children and Teenagers - Alison Gopnik Interview
Do you wonder what "Rocket Feather" means? Are you curious about what makes two introverts so chatty? Looking for some laughs, some feels, and some value this long weekend? Join Charles and Kelly on this episode to learn and ponder more about making Relationships work, sparking Creativity, building Community, and healing Masculinity.
Books to Read
For the Love of Men - Liz Plank
How to Be an Adult - David Richo
Organizations to Follow
The Aspen Institute (Community Weaving)
Are you curious about the creative process, relationships, and the healing power of art? Come hang out with the Rocket Feather team on their first double date with the creative and life partners of Blushing Cactus Photography. Tracy Fultz and Jeremiah Scheffer inspire us with their bold images, their generous approach to the act of taking pictures, their love for community, and their love for one another.
To honor Tracy and Jeremiah's love of live music in the Phoenix scene, we feature some song samples from their favorite bands. Enjoy the energy!
Blushing Cactus Instagram: @blushingcactusphotography
Elizabeth Gilbert on the Nature of Creativity TED
Neil Preston - Iconic Rock Photography
Under the Intro - The Bayou Bandits "Take Me Back"
First Break - Break the Robot "The A List"
Second Break - The Black Moods "Belladonna"
Under the Outro - The Bellwethers - "Schizophrenic Zen"
Are you ready for the new year, new decade, new reality? Life in the Roaring Twenties is going to be challenging in ways we can't even imagine. But it doesn't have to be joyless, lonely, or futile. Kelly and Charles have some experience developing the kind of personal and relational skills that give hope in tough times. In this podcast, you get to spend some time exploring the difference between shallow strength and Deep Strength. This episode even comes with a free Deep Strength workout plan that you can start today!
Deep Strength Workout Plan - Download it here
Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" quote comes from his 1910 speech Citizenship in a Republic.
BIGNESS and Superpower concept courtesy of Fabeku Fatunmise, Kelly's business coach.
Rumi's Poem "The Guest House"
Are you one of those people who knows there's more to life than what's on the surface? Join the Rocket Feather team for a dive into the depths of soul, growth, and hope for the future. This week's guest is Adam Vellturo, an ecotherapist who has spent the last 30 years guiding people into health and a more complete relationship with their soul. Be sure to listen all the way to the end for Adam's prescription for easy soul work and a recitation of a Walt Whitman poem that are both perfect for clear, cold winter nights.
In this episode, Charles and Kelly offer up their usual mix of empathy, humor, and wisdom about one of the most difficult topics for all of us: visiting family. They make the point, that even in the most loving, stable, and supportive family, dysfunction, pain, frustration can simmer just under the surface. This podcast presents two very simple, very actionable tips to try for the holidays that might lesson some of the pain and dysfunction.
Molly McGinn takes us on a Hero's Journey into Healing, Learning, and Community
Molly McGinn is a learning specialist focused on designing and facilitating leadership and management skills training for global companies and nonprofit organizations. Her life story and intellectual/spiritual journey are much more complex and interesting though, than that LinkedIn-worthy business bio.
Molly has literally traveled around the world - the long way, as she says. As a very young woman she went to Japan to study for a year at a Zen monastery, and then, naturally, became a Pan Am stewardess. See if you can follow along to hear how that career choice eventually led to her sitting on the edge of the Grand Canyon with a founding member of the Chinese Communist Party. You’ll also want to listen so you can hear about Tibet, the nature of self and community, and for two Zen Buddhist jokes.
Molly has a strong personal dedication to her own lifelong learning and to community building at the local and global levels. Toward the end of this episode, Molly talks enthusiastically about her most recent project, a group of intentional learning communities for promising young people in recovery.
We know you will enjoy this podcast and we hope you’ll respond with some comments and questions.
Join us for a deep dive with Jessi Hans, a bona fide Community Weaver dedicated to ending homelessness in Everybody’s Hometown, Prescott, Arizona. After becoming Executive Director of CCJ, [Coalition for Compassion and Justice], Jessi set a bold agenda to include and uplift everyone in our hometown. In a few short years, her team and partners have made a huge impact, and along the way, she’s worked to reinvent nonprofit teams, motivate and nurture her family, and consciously find ways to grow and develop as a person. In this interview, Jessi helps us figure out how we can support marginalized people [hint: treat them like full members of the community with agency and value]. Jessi also explains how she continues to motivate herself and inspire her people to work at their highest and deepest levels. Warning: this episode is NOT a bummer!!
We’re glad that you’ve chosen to be in conversation with us today. In this episode, Kelly and I talk about things that matter to us: The dichotomy and union of the opposites represented by the brand RocketFeather; the difficulty and importance of getting things done while staying true to direction and intention and; the real, and beautiful lesson gleaned from a children’s picture book.
We hope you enjoy our mix of deep, personal exploration and accessible fun. We welcome your thoughts on our topics and feedback on our delivery.
WARNING: as you might glean from the episode title, we use the word poop and it’s less G-rated synonym quite frequently in this week’s show.
Show Notes -
Everybody Poops - Taro Gomi Amanda Mayer Stinchecum
King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine - Robert Moore
Go to www.audibletrial.com/rocketfeather and search for "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert.
Purchase your Zokni match at https://www.genuinewonder.com/s/shop
Zokni Discussion music courtesy of Bensound.com
In this episode Kelly and Charles interview Tom Check who is helping people make breakthroughs for them selves AND to build sustaining community.
Tom Check is someone the rest of us are trying to live up to. We been Tom’s, co-facilitators, colleagues, and friends. In all of our different experiences with Tom, he always ups the quality of the moment, the conversation, the project, the program. He does that with his powerful intelligence, his drive, and his passion for excellence and efficiency.
In this conversation, Tom talks about the happenstance and drive in his own life, how he came to be a coach, and why he hosts monthly dinners at his house with relative strangers.
Jocko Willick on After Action Reports https://www.powells.com/book/extreme-ownership-how-the-u-s-navy-seals-lead-win-9781250067050
Other Resources -
David Brooks on Social Weaving https://www.aspeninstitute.org/programs/weave-the-social-fabric-initiative/
Four Stages of Development (To me, By me, Through me, As me) Peter Sage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFk-J35NEVU
What would it be like if we could recognize and leave behind the kind of strength that included violence, vengeance, and exclusion? What if we could define our strength by how inclusive, present, thoughtful, and persistent we were as individuals, couples, and communities. In this solo episode, Charles muses that the shift from "power over" strength to "power with" strength will lead to easier, more fulfilling relationships AND give us a chance to survive and thrive in the 21st Century.
Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg www.cnvc.org
He: Understanding Masculine Psychology by Robert Johnson (I actually suspect that the section on emotions vs. mood is in We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love
Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Feire
Validate in Place - Charles's TEDx talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjnatTOPcgI
David Roberts Twitter Feed: https://twitter.com/drvox
In this warm, intimate interview, you get to hear about the sense of hope, joy, and connection that Tony Himes brings to his work and his life. Tony has been a Marriage and Family Therapist for over 20 years and is the Executive Director of Arizona Gestalt Institute. Tony completed his Master of Science degree in Educational Psychology and is now an adjunct faculty member at Prescott College.
During this long, relaxed chat, Tony shares deeply from his own profession and personal experience about what it means to "be in contact" - to connect with oneself or another in a powerfully open, humble, and supportive way. At the end of the episode, you are invited to join in on short exercise to get in contact with yourself.
Join us for our interview with Jessica Stickel. Jessy is a lifelong learner and a forever aspiring possibilitarian. She is passionate about supporting people in discovering their wealth that is within them and their circumstances. She has been serving families for over 20 years in a plethora of roles. She started as a Family Support Specialist for Head Start, then became a School Counselor, and later got her certification in Life Coaching. She is currently the Student Success Coach at Prescott High School and founder of Inspired Freedom Coaching where she works with teens, families, and adults to become the best version of themselves.
In the Episode, Jessy talks about how she discovered the power of counseling in a group setting (the Circle) and her belief that everybody (including teens) already has the resources and knowledge she needs.
Watch Jessy's TEDx talk, "Wealth is Within."
Come along for a ramble with hosts Charles and Kelly while we talk about our current projects and the fear and excitement that come up for us. Includes diversions into whether to play to your strengths and whether generalists are more successful. A dead raven makes a cameo appearance.