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The HERE.together Podcast

The HERE.together Podcast

By Charles Matheus
Welcome to the weekly podcast for people craving, richer relationships, fulfilling community, healthier masculinity, and permission to create. Every week, the husband-and-wife team of Charles Matheus & Kelly Roberge generate conversation about things that matter with their characteristic empathy, warmth and insight. Guests include, relationship coaches, business leaders, musicians, youth advocates, and artists, all who are willing to take the discussion to new heights and new depths.
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How to Pandemic - Advice from Two Community Health Professionals
Whether you are an obsessed Pandemic Watcher like Charles or just want to know how to stay un-infected until the vaccines arrive, this episode is for you.  We bring you interviews with two people who have unique knowledge about the Covid pandemic. Find out what’s going on with vaccine trials, what numbers to look for, and how to make your plan to stay safe through what will undoubtedly be a long, tough winter.  Despite the grim statistics and stories of anti-mask pushback, our conversations this week left us feeling hopeful knowing science is on the case and that human creativity, resilience, and love will, indeed, triumph. This week we talk with our favorite epidemiologist Christine Stewart, a professor at UC Davis, who helps us make sense of the vaccine trials & rollout. She also explains how her family gets its social and emotional needs met while staying safe and virus-free. It turns out that Christine is not only a distinguished scientist, she’s a brave research subject. Christine was one of thousands of volunteers in the Stage 3 vaccine trials. You’ll get to hear about her experience with the Moderna vaccine and why I’m really excited to get a sore arm and a fever. We also talk with our local Health Department’s Information Officer, Terri Farneti, who makes us appreciate the courage and commitment all the hard-working people in our health infrastructures have demonstrated in the face of a massive health crisis combined with incontheivable blowback. Link to the full show notes.
1:18:19
November 30, 2020
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01:54
November 28, 2020
How to a Feed Wolf - Two Stories and Four Tips for Better Leadership
So We’ve been thinking about the parable of The Two Wolves in the aftermath of the national election. Given how much anger, xenophobia and racism has risen, will a new president make a difference? Were we always this awful and now it’s just visible? Or have we become more awful under the influence of a, well, craven and selfish leader? Listeners know we’re big believers in the “both/and theory” of everything. So we're going big and ambitious today and working to tackle both the implications of leadership and responsibility of individuals in the battle of wolves. Hang out with us today as Charles tells a true story of how green wolf leadership created opportunities for excellence and unity in the midst of a crisis. AND we’ll explore how everyday people (That’s us) can feed the right wolf the right diet and become the kind of leaders in their own lives that, together, transform our culture into one of compassion, responsibility, and inclusion. We wrestle this set of weighty subjects with our usual mix of humor and empathy. Stay sharp for 3-4 pop culture easter eggs and a chance to win a HERE.together T-shirt. Follow this link to see full show notes and a picture of a Tyrolean Traverse. 
1:20:27
November 23, 2020
How to Not Know - Balancing Contemplation and Action
If you think of Buddhists as quiet, gentle people who meditate all the time, think again.  Our guest this week is a proponent of engaged Buddhism, a movement within the philosophy that turns contemplation into action, practice into purpose.  We learn from Pete that it’s not enough to acknowledge the suffering in the world, engaged Buddhists strive to do something to relieve suffering where they find it. If your efforts to help others - friends and family OR out in the world - fall short of your expectations, or if you are confused about how to start making a difference, this episode might be for you. Welcome to the weekly podcast for people craving A sense of connectedness A dose of empathy A glimpse of the way forward An opportunity to engage Pete Pierson has been a man of action his whole life, so it makes sense that he would be attracted to a practice and community that embraces action.  Once an Outward Bound instructor, as well as a firefighter and Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic in remote and extreme areas of Minnesota and Alaska, Pete knows how to help.  He’s seen death up close, and as a UU lay minister, he was asked the big questions – Why?  Not finding a good answer to that question eventually led him to Zen and engaged Buddhism, which, as you will hear, taught Pete to make peace with not knowing. He also knows the value of community and has been active in the many communities he’s called home.  While living here in Prescott long enough to go to grad school, he allowed himself to be recruited to run for the state house of representatives against an incumbent republican with dubious personal history.  He agreed to run, not because he thought he could win, which he didn’t, but in order to force the public conversation on vital issues. Now working as a farm laborer in Kansas, Pete is finding solace in physical work and taking care of family through the pandemic.  He is serving on the township board, doing freelance writing and non-profit consulting, and he doesn’t know what’s next.  But he’s ok with that. In this episode, Pete reads from the essay “A Gift of Not Knowing”. His story takes us to a hot, windy day at the Wounded Knee Memorial in SD and a concrete example of how to engage with history, suffering, and cultural divides. As he explains, Not knowing is a good place to start. Link to full show notes with references and RECIPES!
1:12:15
November 16, 2020
How to Live Through an Election
How are you, dear listeners?  We are recording this on Sunday, November 8th.  This has been a week full of all the feels... the stress and joy and fear and sorrow and hope.  We hope you are coping and coming through it ok.  We checked in with a couple of our besties yesterday to process all these feelings and find out what comes next.   We know that not all of you are political junkies like Charles has become. And many of you are likely ready to move on, with fewer phone calls, fewer flyers in your mailbox. But more people followed this election closely than ever before. More people voted than ever before. By all accounts, it was the most important, most consequential election in a generation. Our generation. All that said, we want to check in with you AND share with you a couple of stories from some dedicated women who were engaged in the election. Their stories are personal and emotional. We think they will touch you.  Joining us this week, we have pod fave Laura Fitton back to talk about what makes this election different and why her belief in our new Vice President Elect is so deeply, deeply personal.   For those of you who don’t remember, Laura is a serial entrepreneur and problem-solver. A college chum from Charles's Cornell days, Laura took her smarts and passion and created her own internet start up about monetizing and promoting brands on Twitter. She sold her company to a large inbound marketing company, freeing her up to address climate change through the Enough Company and then the pandemic with the The PPE Index. The throughline in all her ventures was seeing a need and deciding to do something to meet it. (If you see something, do something!) In this episode Laura talks about her realization that black women are the backbone of our democracy and what she did to help amplify their voices and work. And, because we’re not done protecting the vote and protecting democracy... We also have - we are beyond thrilled to say - Kelly's BFF from high school, Elise Durham.  We’ve been promising that you’d get to meet her and we finally get to deliver on that.  She lays it down on the Founding Fathers, voting in Georgia, and moving forward together.  Elise works for Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms as the Director of Communications at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport - the world’s busiest airport.  Before that, she was a TV news producer, as well as running communications for Morehouse College and Florida A&M University.  She was also Kelly's high school’s mascot Leo the Lion in their senior year.  We are so happy and excited to talk with her, and you’ll hear why.  She’s a smart, savvy badass we know you’ll enjoy. Use this link to see full show notes and photos of the guests.
1:14:18
November 9, 2020
How to Take a Compliment: A Live Stream Party Remix
In case you missed the big news (yes election, yes covid numbers, but the other big news) - this podcast just had its 1st anniversary. To celebrate, we released a Greatest Hits episode, threw a party, AND renamed/rebranded the dang thing. If you missed the party, fear not!  We harvested some of the best moments and arranged them in this thoughtful audio wreath for you to enjoy. We were so happy and grateful to have some of our favorite humans join us as guests and as audience members on Friday to celebrate, as we said, our one-year anniversary as a podcast.  Drew and Candace sang us a couple of awesome songs.  Bill Konigsberg, Jim Natal, and Matt Ruff read the perfect passages, and some of our smartest pals talked over how to save the world. We also made the big announcement that we are re-branding this very podcast.  After much consideration, we felt that a new name would serve our audience and get our message out into the world a bit better.  Welcome to the HERE.together Podcast.  Click HERE for full show notes, full guest list, and links to resources and references. 
1:29:18
November 2, 2020
How to Look Back and Learn: One Full Year of Rocket Feather
How many 1-year-olds can say they conversed with 47 notable geniuses, fomented community, provided solace to at least dozens of friends and strangers, and emboldened others to take a creative plunge into unknown waters? You know a toddler like that??  Cool.  We need to interview that kid.  But seriously.  The one-year-old I’m talking about is, of course, the RocketFeather podcast.  And while we have had a blast building this first year, and only a few arguments, we could not have done it without you - the intrepid Rocketeers. You have been willing to go with us to the difficult places, the challenging places, the confusing, painful, weirdly joyful places.  And it’s made all the difference, especially in the year of covid, for us not to have to make this journey alone.  Sharing our fears and questions and solutions with our 47 amazing guests and with our brilliant and beautiful listeners has made the most challenging year - debatably - of our lives, not only tolerable, but full of meaning and real joy.  So come with us on a walk through some of our favorite moments over the last year as we remember, make meaning, and plan for what’s next. One of the big themes of this podcast - the Rocketfeather podcast - is that we do the personal work in order to be in relationship, so we can be of service.  This is how we have designed this walk down memory lane today.  While most of our interviews touched on all three of these phases, we have grouped them according to where we remember having our minds blown and our hearts opened. This episode would be 14 hours long if we included every bit of goodness, so by necessity, we pared it down to the high points that struck us this week as we were assembling it, which was a delicious torture. It was like cutting up a gorgeous piece of velvet yardage - so hard to cut into when the whole thing is so stunning, but necessary to make the garment we wanted to make.  So we hope you like what we made. Nobody ever promised that creativity was devoid of tough choices. See the Show Notes for this Episode at www.rocketfeather.com/pod
1:32:45
October 26, 2020
How to Raise the Bar
What’s it like to take an unpopular stand for something you know is important?  What’s it like to make public service a pillar of your life?  What’s important in making a good life for your family? Join us for a chat with the First Family...of Cottonwood, AZ as we learn about leadership, service, entrepreneurship, adventure, and more. Tim and Ruth Ellen Elinski are right in the thick of it. Tim is the current and recently re-elected mayor of cottonwood, and his wife, Ruth Ellen, a long-time non-profit leader and entrepreneur, is a Business Analyst for the Small Business Development Center at Yavapai College. Together they are working to build the economic and community strength of Cottonwood and the Verde Valley, while raising two daughters and launching their own small business. We get into what it was like for Tim, as mayor, and for the Elinskis as a family, to face protesters in front of their house after Tim’s controversial mayoral proclamation.  We go exploring with them to the wilds of Miami, Arizona and the birth of their most recent business venture.  And we find out what it means to them to serve and support their community - the whole community, even the people who boldly disagree. Link to more information in the show notes: www.rocketfeather.com/pod
1:26:32
October 19, 2020
How to Be a Local Hero
What would it be like for the businesses near us to be owned by our friends and neighbors?  What would it be like if the money we spent in those businesses stayed in town and enriched our whole community? What if we all felt like partners in our economy instead of just customers? Today’s guest, Thomas Barr, is the Executive Director of Local First Arizona, the largest coalition of local businesses in North America. A proud Arizona native and graduate of Arizona State University, Thomas leads the business coalition of Local First Arizona by advocating for the economic and cultural benefits provided by building strong local economies. Thomas’s work is fueled by his values. In this episode, he reveals some of the personal and family stories that forged his values around justice and inclusion. He also explains how his  advocacy for a strong local business community contributes to building vibrant, equitable prosperity across the state. In his free time, Thomas volunteers with many causes and organizations throughout the Valley including Young Nonprofit Professionals, Equality Arizona, Arizona Commission on the Arts, Heritage Square Foundation and Phoenix Legal Action Network. Thomas was honored in 2018 as one of Phoenix Magazine’s 40 Under 40, he’s an alumnus of Arizona Leading for Change, and the Valley Leadership Institute's 40th cohort. We were so happy that Thomas Barr was able to join us this week to share his passion and plans for a thriving economy. He also shared the sometimes wrenching stories of businesses and business owners that Local First Arizona is working to keep afloat during Covid, the biggest challenge to small business in a century. Keep listening to the end when Thomas reveals his secret “smell test” to find out instantly whether a business is locally owned or not, and for his powerful vision for the next 20 years. For comprehensive show notes with links to Local First AZ programs, tips for shopping local, and resources for local business, go to www.rocketfeather.com/pod
1:12:44
October 12, 2020
How to Get off the Couch
What would make you get off the couch and take to the streets in the name of justice?  Justice for people like you?  Justice for people who are “different”?  We continue to struggle with these questions, but our guests today got off their respective couches long ago.  Find out what activism is like here in the Prescott area for Ren Manning and Rosemary Dixon, as they fight for healthcare, freedom, and basic respect for all of our neighbors. Rosemary Dixon lived all over the world before settling in Prescott 9 years ago. She earned her graduate degree at the University of the Western Cape, in South Africa, and lectured in gender, race, racism and whiteness at the University of Nevada, Reno for eleven years. She is a steering committee member of Prescott Indivisible and the of chair of the recently formed AREA-P (Anti-Racist Education and Action-Prescott). This group operates to educate primarily white people on the hierarchical system we have created, but also acts to spotlight racial injustice and white supremacy in all its forms. Ren Manning, is a community organizer, educator, and artist who has lived and organized all over the world.  Ren has taught courses on US/Mexico border studies, anti-racist organizing, landscapes of neoliberalism, art & agency, and community outreach. Ren works on immigration reform, and is currently helping Judy Stahl get elected to the AZ State House. See the show notes for the full scoop on our accomplished guests. www.rocketfeather.com/pod I’m amazed that we could even get time with them to record this podcast, they are so busy, but I’m thrilled that we did. This is an intense conversation, but we left it feeling inspired, hopeful, and most important, ready to take action to make things better for ALL of our neighbors.  We hope you’ll come along with us for this talk and then we’ll see you at the meeting after. I’ll bring the cookies.
1:31:43
October 5, 2020
How to Question Everything
What story are you living and who wrote it?  You?  Or did your family or society or the advertisers of America write the script for the life you’re currently living?  Are you an entrepreneur struggling to live a healthy life while making your business successful?  What does success even look like? What would it be like to be able to answer those questions?  More importantly, what would it be like to intentionally set your own direction and meet your own authentic expectations, free from old stories and self-imposed obstacles? Our guest this week is Mary Hodges.  Mary is the host of the Abundantly Being Podcast where she and her guests share tips for creating fulfillment from within and taking ownership of your life and business. Mary's mission is to help entrepreneurs create a thriving life and business from the inside out so they can experience more flow, more fun, and more freedom while they share their gifts with the world. She’s also owner of STL Startup Lawyer where she provides advice and peace of mind to small businesses and startups.
1:26:17
September 28, 2020
How to Love Poetry in an Apocalypse
Do you like poetry? Do you care about art? Do you wonder, sometimes, how art fits into society? How creativity fits into your life? This week’s guest is Jim Natal. Jim wrote his first poem when he was in high school but let poetry go when adult demands got in the way. Jim had a successful but ultimately unsatisfying career working for the National Football League, shepherding big corporate deals, and polishing the brand. After 25 years, and in spite of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s assertion, Jim managed to create a second act for himself. Six books later, Jim is an award winning poet, teacher, and event promoter. For the last 12 years, Jim has worked to draw renowned authors for readings and interviews to the little city of Prescott, Arizona. His efforts have built a literary culture where Jim had originally found none.  This week on September 25th, we’ll be watching online as Jim welcomes Lisa Ko to the Literary Southwest Virtual stage. Lisa Ko’s novel The Leavers is a 2017 National Book Award Finalist and was on Best of lists at NPR, LA Times, Buzz Feed and, yes, Oprah Magazine. The link for the event.  Although Jim joined us ostensibly to talk about Literary Southwest, we wrung him dry for his insight into the purpose of poetry, that nature of creativity, and whether there is a place for art in the apocalypse. Jim also reads two of his poems, both of which are incredibly relevant to the moment. Our original interview with Jim lasted two and a half hours and was full of fascinating anecdotes, inside stories, and generous ruminations. We whittled the audio down to something a little more digestible for the average listener, but if you would like to hear the whole conversation, email us at Charles@rocketfeather.com and we’ll send you a Dropbox link to the unedited version. In the meantime, stay tuned as we talk writing, connection, and self-discovery with Jim Natal. We think you’ll finish uplifted, more hopeful, and see a pinch more beauty in your world.
1:30:28
September 21, 2020
How to Be Emotional
How are you?  Are you doing ok?  If the reality is that you’re not doing awesome right now, we’re here to say that’s ok.  You’re not doing it wrong. If you’re feeling great, that’s ok, too.  Hang out with this conversation anyway, because if you can show up for your loved ones who are struggling, that’s a good thing. #alwaysbebuildingempathy. We just wanted to check in with you and spend some time today talking about anxiety and depression and the complex emotional landscape that we are all walking through right now.  It’s a big challenge, but we can help each other and maybe even wind up stronger on the other side. We know a lot of podcast episodes (ours included) follow a certain format…. Here’s the problem… Here’s our expertise with this problem…. Here’s three simple steps you can take to solving that problem. Now a word from our sponsors. But we’re choosing not to follow that formula and instead just have a rich, rambling, revealing conversation. Because that’s what life is. Because there IS no three step solution. Because healing and growth take place in the presence of a witness, not necessarily an expert or guru. Because we believe we, as pod hosts are part of a community. Because we believe that you are part of this community. So… yeah… I have to say that some days I’m not OK. And that those days are more frequent these days. And that’s one of the reasons we’re recording and sharing this podcast. I’m not OK, Kelly’s not OK, maybe you’re not ok ... and that’s OK.
1:09:27
September 14, 2020
NACOG Revealed: The Team That Keeps Northern Arizona Working
We are sharing an episode from another podcast we produce - The Prescott Woman Podcast. We think the themes in this interview: community, collaboration, and shared mission are a perfect fit for this channel.  ---- What is NACOG?  We’ve all heard of it.  Most of us can’t seem to remember what it stands for.  But after this episode of the Prescott Woman Podcast, you will know and remember, thanks to Teri Drew, the smart and savvy director of the Economic/WorkForce wing of NACOG, the Northern Arizona Council of Governments.  They are doing the hard and important work of economic development, community support, early childhood education, and so much more.  They coordinate with local and county governments across Apache, Coconino, Navajo, and Yavapai counties here in Northern Arizona to make life better for all of us. Teri is with us today to talk about the work she has done for over 40 years to lift individuals out of poverty via career development and at the same time, support local businesses in building effective, sustainable workforces. Guest Bio: Teri Drew works with 24 communities across Northern Arizona to help both workers and businesses build success. She currently serves as Chair of the Arizona Workforce Association (AWA) and was recently appointed to the United States Workforce Association (USWA). She has served on just about every workforce-related board and committee at local, state, and national levels during her long career [see the show notes for the details]. Teri is a Promise Maker sponsor of Yavapai County Big Brothers Big Sisters. She was named Prescott Area Leadership’s Woman of the Year in 2012 and has been the recipient of numerous regional, state and federal innovation awards. For full Show Notes go to: www.rocketfeather.com/pod
49:59
September 7, 2020
How to Be Authentic and Whole
Come on a journey with us, in which our heroes grow up together in a safe but restrictive community, begin to question that community, fall down a slippery slope, crash their Jenga tower, lose everything, find their authentic selves - including their anger, gain everything, discover a new kind of joy, and then create a sanctuary where all are truly, deeply welcome. Turns out it was the sanctuary that they needed all along. This successful heroes’ journey is a story that we hope will give you joy and hope for your own complicated journey.  We all fall down (or get kicked out), but our guests this week are here to remind us what’s on the other side.  This is the third episode in our bounce-back series and we hope you’ll get a lot of value from it. Our guests this week are Kate and Colby Martin, co pastors of Sojourn Grace Collective, a progressive Christian church in San Diego, California.  Their church is a fully inclusive, open and affirming community that welcomes all and works for justice. How they got there is not easy.
1:15:57
August 31, 2020
How to Be Useful: There is Always Something
Our guest this week is serial entrepreneur and problem-solver Laura Fitton.  A college chum from my Cornell days, Laura and I spent a lot of time together at Cornell Outdoor Education leading backpacking trips, teaching rock climbing and developing our communication and leadership skills.  Even back then, Laura stood out with her intelligence, drive and courage. Those characteristics showed up in the first thing she chose to do after college. She got a job cooking for an educational program on a tall ship sailing back and forth across the Atlantic. She took that job despite being prone to sea-sickness because she believed in the Sea Education Association and its mission. Laura eventually took her smarts and passion and started her own internet start up called oneforty.com after the original character limit on then-nascent Twitter. She sold her company to a large inbound marketing company and got to host a major annual conference featuring some pretty amazing speakers. I’m not sure, but I think she was the one who booked Michele Obama. Laura went on to start a company to address climate change (the Enough Company) and the pandemic (The PPE Index). The throughline in all her ventures was seeing a need and deciding to do something to meet it, with her trademark intelligence and empathy. This episode started off talking about the nature of entrepreneurship but ended up diving into the nature of evil and how to avoid it. No, seriously… the nature of evil. So be prepared to get inspired, enlightened, and frankly, a little challenged. There are some very clear calls to action in this episode.
1:30:06
August 24, 2020
How to Turn Setback into Success - Part 1
What if you could reinvent yourself?  What if you did it again and again?  If you haven’t already done it yourself, can you even imagine where such a journey would take you and who you would become? Our guest this week is Melanie Banayat, owner of Wing Space Co-working here in Prescott.  Her career has included graphic design, resort management, holistic health coaching, and fine art. Through each career, Melanie has been a typical entrepreneur, grabbing opportunities, working hard, and creating success so she has a ton of experience to share. After having to reinvent herself a number of times, Melanie now helps others do the same.  Not just a place to rent a desk and make copies, Wing Space fosters budding entrepreneurs in all the areas they need to succeed.  In response to the Covid Crisis that is forcing so many of us to retool our business or turn our side-gig into an enterprise, Melanie and the folks at Wingspace have created Launch, an incredibly valuable class for folks going through the business start up process. It is a six-week, self-paced virtual class with dozens of video tutorials PLUS peer-to-peer coaching in an accountability group (Called a Mastermind group.) A class like this would normally cost thousands of dollars. Your jaw will drop when you hear how inexpensive Melanie had made it. We recorded 3 episodes this week and the thread that ran through all of them was what happens when your life burns down.  All of our guests found the grit and tenacity to keep going when it looked like all was lost, and in that darkness, found gifts that helped them build new lives that turned out to be more authentic, more meaningful, and more powerful than those they left in the ashes.
1:17:20
August 16, 2020
How to Win at Love: Three Steps Toward More Equity, Intimacy, and Capacity
If your relationship isn’t all bliss all the time, you’re doing it wrong.  Right?  That, of course, is nonsense. We get taught a whole slew of behaviors and attitudes (packaged as strength or righteousness) that actually inhibit joyful, lasting relationships. It’s hard to unlearn those lies, but we here at Rocket Feather are working hard to help you have easier, more successful partnerships with the people who matter to you.  Listen to this episode as we lay out the three components of win/win relationship culture and how going for the win-win will revolutionize your experience of being in relationship. jpGXS89N8gfdLW1dCRKI
1:02:49
August 9, 2020
How to Be Powerful: OR a Priestess and a Warrior Walk Into a Podcast
What if we decided to honor all the parts of ourselves and each other….the masculine, the feminine, the earthy and the gold? What would it look like if you could express the full spectrum of yourself?  What would the world look like if we all decided to break down and recycle the boxes we’ve been expected to live in? Come with us as we explore not only the mundane but the sacred feminine and masculine and find out how diving into them can change the world for the better. We had an enriching double date this week with our friends Doug Eagan and Dawn Delvecchio. Dawn is a scholar, entrepreneur, martial artist, and priestess who is encouraging women to reclaim their feminine power  Just this year she interviewed 39 priestesses from around the world and multiple spiritual traditions. In this interview, she shares some of what she learned in that process. Dawn is offering a reduced-cost intensive online coaching program to help women cultivate inner strength and engage the mission of their souls.  Doug Eagen is a mens work leader, and mentor for boys who has been active in Boys to Men and the Mankind Project helping to craft a healthy masculinity. References: Return of the Priestess Dawn’s Priestess Alchemy Course Resources: Dawn Delvecchio’s website ManKind Project  Boys to Men Mentoring Zokni of the Week Music Credits: Alejandro Magaña at https://mixkit.co/
1:10:11
August 3, 2020
How to Add to Your Life
How can we develop more ease and authenticity inside ourselves? How can we build more capacity and resilience to face current and future difficulties? And what if, the same methods for adding to our lives created better relationships and more effective leadership? How much would you pay for this? But wait, don’t answer… This episode is full of just the sort of conversation and questions you’d hear if you were hanging out with us in the kitchen. Kelly and I regularly rassle with these ideas around healthy personal growth, uplifting relationships and inclusive, sustainable community. We get pretty agitated about the topic and the possibilities and sometimes Bill the Cat has to come in from the living room to yell at us to quiet down. Or maybe he’s just agreeing loudly. It’s hard to tell We offer up this conversation with both great passion and great humility. Our passion comes from all the years we’ve been working through these ideas personally and professionally. Our humility comes from the fact that we are very human and are working through all of this ourselves. We are doing our best not to preach or lecture [though it might sound like it sometimes - we do get excited], but we think there’s something good and powerful in facing these uncomfortable truths and we want to talk it through with you, together. References: Carl Jung Anima/Animus The Shadow Nonviolent Communication Book Set This House in Order Nominate Satchel at The Rocket Feather Podcast Page Resources: Episode 34 with Matt Ruff Episode 19 with Rowdy Duncan Art Therapy Resources Music Credits: Mixkit.co
1:05:59
July 27, 2020
How to Talk to Teens: Relationship Technology from Adam Young
What if parenting, teaching, or just hanging out with teens could be easier and less stressful. What if we adults could adopt a few simple techniques to help kids make good decisions, free up their own authentic wisdom, AND build closer relationships.  This week, we’re talking with Adam Young. Adam spent 10 years as a classroom teacher and nearly as long as a mentor and program director for Boys to Men Mentoring. (The nonprofit org I used to head) At Boys to Men, Adam was key to the expansion of our school circles - we talk about “circles” a lot in this episode. They are simply hour-long support groups consisting of 8-10 boys and 3-4 adults. At our peak, BTM was conducting 16 weekly circles in half a dozen schools. This model is in use in schools all around the country and the world. These days, Adam is one of the principals of a new consulting and training program called Circle Dynamics Group. The Circle Dynamics Group works with schools to train teachers and education leaders to quickly build interpersonal connections that encourage trust and deeper conversation with students. They have an open set of workshops coming up July 21st - 30th. You might want to strap in a little more tightly than normal this week. Some of the ways that Adam works with teens - the radical trust, the abandonment of adult privilege and power - might rock your world and your assumptions. SHOW NOTES References: Circle Dynamics Group Boys to Men Mentoring Niobe Way - Deep Secrets: Boys' Friendships and the Crisis of Connection 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Resources: Validate in Place TEDx TalkEpisode 28,  How to Vote for Your Best Self with Stasia Rivera Episode 15 Better Together: Teens, Community, and Activism Redefining Strength Facebook Group RocketFeather Community Lab Facebook Group Music Credits: Music provided by Audio Library Plus
1:18:02
July 13, 2020
How to Stay on the Same Page with Your Beloved
What’s it like for you when your beloved gets angry?  What about when it’s over something you did?  Do you panic?  Get defensive?  Throw blame?  Crumble?  Flee? How can we handle these inevitable moments in our close relationships in a way that actually deepens our connection and reduces the stress and trauma of a fight? Kelly and Charles have been working in and on their marriage together for nearly six years. Before earning that street cred, Kelly earned a Masters in Art Therapy, and grabbed all the wisdom available from Tony Robbins, Wayne Dyer, etc. Charles studied nonviolent relationships and teaching and has mentored over 1000 youth and adults in communication, self-awareness, and accountability skills. On this week’s podcast, we share results from the lab that is our marriage, in hopes that you will find it useful in your own relationships. SHOW NOTES: References: RocketFeather Blog Brene Brown Podcast Blushing Cactus Photography Prescott Woman Podcast RocketFeather Community Lab Music Credits: Chill Out Records - No Copyright Music
1:04:11
July 6, 2020
How to Write a New Story with Rowdy Duncan
What would it be like if we thought about the current situation as if it were a fable, told to us by an elder?  What would we learn?  How would it end? What if we could tell a story that could help us create the safe, sustainable, equitable future that we want for ourselves and our children? Our friend and fellow traveler on the path, Rowdy Duncan returns to help us unpack the pandemic, the protests, and the times we’re currently navigating.  He shares an indigenous and earth-based perspective he’s been exploring to make sense of what he’s witnessing and experiencing, and that he’s using as a tool to blaze his trail through this complex environment. Rowdy is on the communications faculty at Phoenix College.  He teaches Intercultural Communication, Diversity & Inclusion studies, he’s active in youth leadership development, AND he’s a huge advocate for community and restorative modes of justice. Rowdy is also the Writer, Producer, and Host of The Inclusive Activism Podcast, which you will definitely want to check out. All this makes Rowdy the perfect person for us to have on the show to dive into the deep end with us and see what we find there. SHOW NOTES:  References -  Colby Martin TEDx Talk Katie Hess Website Inclusive Activism Podcast Resources -  Rowdy Duncan Consulting Harvard Implicit Bias Tests
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June 28, 2020
How to do a 180: From Racist Skinhead to Anti-Racism Advocate
How does a kind young man get involved with a hate group and how does he get out and build a life of compassion and empathy? Our guest this week is Hayden Gebler.  A “normal kid” growing up in Northern AZ, Hayden had a huge need for connection and belonging. His journey toward that belonging took a dark turn that resulted in Hayden spending several years in a white supremicist gang.  Now at 26, his life is radically different and his heart is filled with love and understanding instead of hate and bigotry. In this episode, Hayden talks very frankly and openly about what caused him to veer off and what brought him back. Trigger warning: In this episode we talk about drug use, self-harm, suicide attempts, and violence. We don’t dwell on any of it, nor glorify it, but you might want to choose the right time to listen to this podcast. References: The Harvard Implicit Bias Study White Supremacist Prison Gangs in the United States Resources: Suicide Prevention Resources Find a local AA Meeting Music Credits:  Royalty Free Music and Creative Commons Music from Kevin MacLeod.
1:26:20
June 21, 2020
How to Empathize for a Living - A "Choose Your Own Adventure" Episode w/Novelist Matt Ruff
What happens when an old college friend has his novel adapted by Jordan Peele and JJ Abrams for an HBO series?  You invite him on your podcast, that’s what. Our guest this week is the writer Matt Ruff, author of seven, very different books. We talk about the craft of writing great characters, the luck involved in getting published, and how to become an overnight success in only 35 years. We dive deep into the creation of characters who are experiencing very different lives and challenges than we are. And we talk about how critical it is now to live with those kinds of characters and learn from them.  Matt's books span the gamut, from speculative fiction, literary fantasy, alternative history and gothic horror. His third book, Set this House in Order, won the James Tiptree, Jr. Award for it's incredibly unique exploration of gender. Matt's sixth book, Lovecraft Country, raises the pitch of the horror of racism with a nasty dose of Lovecraftian supernatural horror. That's the book that caught the eye of Jordan Peele.  Set This House in Order changed Charles's notion of the self and, not to put to fine a point on it, this episode completely changed our understanding of racism. We're really curious what you think about it.  SHOW NOTES:  References: Matt’s Ruff’s Website Risley Hall at Cornell Matt’s Ruff’s Books @ IndieBound Matt Ruff’s Books @Amazon Lovecraft Country Trailer Resources: 8cantwait - a campaign to bring immediate change to police departments Anti-racism resources for white people
1:57:03
June 14, 2020
Prescott Strong
What makes Prescott (and the rest of the Quad Cities) strong? What makes us unique and successful when things get tough? Our first collaborative episode attempts to answer those questions. This week we are really, stupendously pleased to share with you the first episode of a whole new podcast series. A couple months ago, after interviewing Breeanya Hinkel on this podcast and then partnering with her and her posse of engaged business leaders on the Women in Science episode, we hatched this new project, a new, separate podcast that will feature some of the same stories and interviews from the Prescott Woman print magazine. For the June/July issue, the writers and staff at Prescott Woman Magazine started collecting stories of resilience and creativity in the face of Covid 19. They called the resulting cover story “Prescott Strong.” This first episode of the Prescott Woman Podcast is an expanded audio version of that story. We trust that you will find it inspiring and meaningful because the voices are those of your neighbors and friends. Show Notes: The following women and men contributed quotes: Deputy Police Chief Amy Bonney Claire Louge - executive Director of Prevent Child Abuse Arizona Deputy Fire Chief Cory Moser Kerry Johnson - Special Education Teacher Tina Rose - Parent Jim Cabral - Owner of Gabby’s Grill Rachel Whisenand, Emergency Department Nurse, Yavapai Regional Medical Center Ariana Bennett - Parent The following people shared their trials and triumphs with us in extended interviews. Kaia Kordossky-Herrera, Physicians Assistant and owner of Prescott Complete Care Sasha Naasz, owner of The Movement Studio Carissa Johnson - English and Language Arts Teacher at Bradshaw Mountain Middle School The following local musicians provided the music you heard throughout the episode. Follow these links to more of their music: Drew Hall & Anton Teschner on Facebook Candace Devine on Spotify Rachel Plays Guitar on Spotify Sugar and the Mint on the web. Kaileena Martin on Spotify Subscribe to the monthly Prescott Women Podcast. Get ready for next week’s episode: Check out Matt Ruff here. Watch the trailer for the HBO Series.
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June 8, 2020
The Only Goal that Matters - In Memory of George Floyd.
We’re both struggling with grief, anger, and shame this week. Are you? Our country is showing it's deep fracture lines and the pain is real. Creating justice through thoughtful, individual, and collective action is only goal that matters  We know it’s not easy, but let’s spend some time together getting to the bottom of our feelings and beliefs and then moving toward some useful action. We had planned this week to talk about creativity, but the police killings (George Floyd, Tony McDade, Sean Reed and Breonna Taylor), the unequal way COVID 19 is infecting and killing black and brown people, and the long-term affect the economic crisis is going to have on already marginalized people won’t let us talk about anything other than race today. And really, these issues directly relate to the pillars of this podcast, particularly community and masculinity. We’ll be talking about our own personal experiences, knowing that white experience so often drowns out the experiences of others. But it’s what we have to work with and from.  We live in a VERY white area, but we feel strongly that we are also part of national and global communities, and we’ll do what we can to facilitate conversations that serve all. We’re going to do our best to create an open space for one another and you, our beloved audience. We’re going to bring our usual blend of curiosity, warmth, and empathy to this episode. But, you all should know, there is pain and anger here… Please, if it shows up in my voice or if it shows up in your head, please breath and lean in. If we pull back, we’re done for. We need you. Anti-racist activists are making it very clear. We live in an unjust and violent system and it is up to us - middling white folks - to get off the fence and off the couch and fix it. We hope this exploration will take us in the right direction. SHOW NOTES:  References: Jane Elliot -  former third-grade school teacher, anti-racism activist, and educator Genesee County Sheriff Chris Swanson joins protesters as they walk for George Floyd Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields talking and listening to protesters Washington Post Reports - Audio Story about Christian Cooper, the African American Birder Teri Kanefield Blog Teatime for the Firefly - Shona Patel - A novel about a young girl growing up in India. Resources: Anti-racism resources for white people Check out Charles’ Blog Zokni nomination A guide to how you can support marginalized communities - CNN Music Credits: Metamorphosis - Phillip Glass jpGXS89N8gfdLW1dCRKI
1:30:47
May 31, 2020
Why You're Never Too Old for a Coming of Age Story - An Adult Conversation with YA Author Bill Konigsberg
When Bill Konigsberg was a teen, there were no novels featuring young gay men.  Thanks to him, gay teens today can’t say the same. In his latest novel, though, the sexual preference of his protagonists is almost incidental. Max and Jordan are in the middle becoming adults, and their struggle to integrate pain, joy, capacity, and weakness into their wholeness makes this book totally relevant for those of us who are still growing… that is - everybody. Bill Konigsberg is the award-winning author of six young adult novels. THE PORCUPINE OF TRUTH won the PEN Center USA Literary Award and the Stonewall Book Award in 2016. OPENLY STRAIGHT won the Sid Fleischman Award for Humor, was a finalist for the Amelia Elizabeth Walden Award and Lambda Literary Award in 2014 and has been translated into five languages. His debut novel, OUT OF THE POCKET, won the Lambda Literary Award in 2009. THE MUSIC OF WHAT HAPPENS, was released in February of 2019, received two starred reviews, and has been optioned for a film. His next novel, THE BRIDGE, will be released in the fall of 2020. In 2018, The National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE)’s Assembly on Literature for Adolescents (ALAN) established the Bill Konigsberg Award for Acts and Activism for Equity and Inclusion through Young Adult Literature. Before Bill wrote for young adults, he was a sports writer and editor for ESPN and the Associated Press. Charles met and got to know Bill through their shared work helping create initiations for men - the Mankind Project - and boys at Boys to Men. Charles was immediately drawn to Bill’s intelligence, vulnerability, and attentiveness. Bill lives in Phoenix, Arizona, with his husband, Chuck and their two Australian Labradoodles, Mabel and Buford, who complete him.  Mabel and Buford have professional glamour shots on Bill’s website. I fell hard for Buford - you might, too. Bill’s books - the one we read, anyway - are filled with real people of all stripes, not token stereotypes or caricatures.  They are dealing with real and relatable problems and struggles, and being gay isn’t the most notable thing about them.  They are regular people who just happen to be gay.  Bill creates a world that is familiar for some of us - especially those of us who grew up in the arts or in places like Jerome, AZ - where being gay and out is unremarkable. We found it refreshing and a relief to spend time there and we really loved getting to know Jordan and Max and their friends and family.  We definitely want to read the rest of Bill’s books, especially the new book: The Bridge that is available for pre-order now. SHOW NOTES: References:  Bill Konigsberg Bill’s Books  Resources: The ManKind Project Mental Health Helpline Crisis Hotline 
1:21:10
May 24, 2020
Who is that masked man? Bridging the Covid Gap with Empathy
Is the masked man a hero or a villain? These days we’re seeing some very emotional division around the decision to wear a mask in public and whether staying home is cowardly or going out is reckless. Today we are going to dig into that and see what’s under the mask. In this episode, we’ll be looking at the value of freedom, definitions of masculinity, ideas of strength, and how our society is structured as well as experimenting with empathy, framing, and connection.  Charles will have a rant and Kelly will play devil’s advocate. So stay tuned if you want support around doing the right thing, even when it’s unpopular [with fringe elements]. We want to know what you think about how to balance freedom with responsibility so we hope you’ll comment in the Rocket Feather Community Lab Group or by leaving a phone message at Anchor.fm/rocketfeather References: Charles's Blog Post "New Strength vs. Old Strength and The Great Mask Debate" Charles's TEDx Talk "Redefining Strength for the 21st Century" Vanity Fair Article by Ed Yong Why the Pandemic is So Confusing Stasia Rivera’s Website  Daryl Davis: Crossing Boundaries with Respect NPR Story TEDx Talk  Earl Hipp, Man Making Bill Konigsberg Website Music Credits: Bensounds
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May 17, 2020
Don’t Worry Child [Insert Your Name Here]
Are you missing live music and the sense of community you feel when out on the town? Are you craving connection with the creative energy of your favorite musicians and artists? This week we’ve got the certified biggest voice in town plus our favorite guitar genius - in the HOUSE!  Literally, in our house - don’t worry we stayed in our own corners. Grammy-nominated singer Candace Devine and local rock god Drew Hall join us for a no holds barred talk about creativity, re-invention, and community, as well as playing some music to lift your spirits. We used several of the fan-submitted questions to pry into the life and history and thoughts of our passionately creative guests. Candace has been a professional singer since her early 20s, working with Christina Aguilera, Styx, the Four Tops and many others in the recording studio and out on the road touring.  In this episode, we find out that she is both a champion equestrian coach AND a cat enchantress. Also, she swears like a sailor, so proceed at your own risk #totally worth it. Drew is a former banker who defied the 9-5 life at his earliest opportunity, going on to be in every kind of band, teach guitar to young and old musicians alike, and curate exceptional music shows here in Prescott.  In pre-Covid times, Drew could be spotted playing with the Cheektones, Summa Totius, THiS Trio with Slim Gamble of Lady Antebellum fame, Drew & Anton, and many many more! 3This podcast episode hits a lot of the superlative buttons: longest, loudest, biggest recording challenge, most cat input, most social media engagement, and definitely the most musical. Candace and Drew played two songs for us live, and we play you the recording of “Don’t Worry Child (Rosalyn)” their newest collaboration and entry into the NPR Tiny Desk Concert. “Don’t Worry Child is ostensibly about Drew’s daughter, but in our view, it’s really for and about all of us living through these stressful times. Show Notes: Raven Productions website Candace Devine Website Bon Jovi - Livin’ on a Prayer Raven Productions Friday Feature  Drew’s Favorite Guitarist - Richie Kotzen covering Sara Smiles Music Credits:  Drew & Candace songs Under the episode intro and featured in the podcast - Don’t Worry Child (Roslyn)  "Givin it Up/Medly" "You Got Me" Under the episode outro - While My Guitar Gently Weeps George Harrison Cover by Candace Devine, Dylan Ludwig and Drew Hall
1:40:25
May 10, 2020
How to Vote for Your Best Self with Stasia Rivera
What if relationships could be easier? What if you knew why your teen, your toddler or your partner was “giving you that face?” And what if you knew how to respond in a way that didn’t suck? What if you could build rather than damage your relationships? Well this week, we got to talk with a relationship and parenting wizard who has developed a simple system to help us understand ourselves and each other. She explains how, from that foundation of empathy, we can use her basic tools to navigate conflict or misunderstanding to build the connection we all crave. Plus, she helped me figure out how to get the trash to the curb on time. Our Guest, Stasia Rivera, is a family systems, trauma, and addictions therapist/coach with 25 years experience helping people reach their peaks. Her practice is a unique combination of applied neuroscience, systems thinking, and common sense. She and her team recently recognized that families and young people are experiencing new challenges during this pandemic. They pivoted their whole business model to respond to these needs and are launching a range of accessible and affordable classes and resources. Check them out at IUGOConnect.org.  SHOW NOTES:  Psych Theory Trading Cards James Clear - Habit Theory Alfie Kohn - Punished by Rewards Peter Levine - Trauma and Healing Attachment Theory Polyvagal Theory
1:12:00
April 26, 2020
How to Bear the Weight of the World: Global Respect & Love with Olivia Lee
What’s it like to work in the Arctic while riding out the pandemic in Arizona?  What’s it like to meet this challenge with a giant heart, a brilliant brain, and a 4-year-old? International researcher, advocate for women in science, mom, and authentic human, Olivia Lee joins us on this week’s podcast to talk through the challenges of conducting climate research during a pandemic, being separated from family overseas, and coping with the weight of feeling like it’s never enough.  I’m not a brilliant scientist, but I’m guessing those are things we can all relate to.  Listen on to hear how Olivia’s deep empathy and respect drive her work and keep her going in difficult times. Increasing our capacity for the “unpleasant” feelings is one of the main goals we have here at RocketFeather.  If we can be with those difficult feelings and over time, stop judging ourselves for having them, we are well on our way to being responsive humans rather than reactive ones.  That means we can be there for each other instead of just worrying about ourselves. So thank  you all for hanging in here with us as we grow in empathy and resilience and love.  Olivia Lee is such a great model for this kind of strength and we feel so privileged to talk with her and count her as a friend. We hope this healing conversation will continue in the RocketFeather Community Lab, so reach out with your questions and answers and let’s help each other through this time - let’s do that and more.  Let’s help each other redefine who we get to be on the other end of it.  What are you leaving behind and what are you bringing with you?  We want to know. SHOW NOTES Books, Podcasts & Poems Brene Brown Interviews Dr. Mark Brackett Permission to Feel by Dr. Brackett [Oh Sweet Spontaneous] poem by e. e. cummings Organizations Sea Ice for Walrus Outlook  Alaska Sea Life Center 
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April 19, 2020
How to Cut Yourself Some Slack During the F-ing Pandemic
Are you already carrying enough metaphorical baggage and second-hand trauma as you sit in your house? Do you find yourself adding to the load with self-recriminations, overly ambitious to-do lists, or a litany of “shoulds?” Hang out with us today as we chat with someone who knows what it’s like to have high standards… and who is recognizing that maybe she’s using those standards to beat herself up. And maybe it’s time to stop. Our guest this week is Ida Woll, the owner of our favorite local frame shop and gallery, The Frame & I. She grew up here in Prescott and calls herself a near-native. She bought The Frame & I in 1998 after working there for 3 years and has used her role as a member of the downtown business community to support the arts and non-profits with true commitment.  She raises framing to an art form because she, herself, is a life-long artist, and she is passionate about turning people’s sacred objects into real treasures. Ida is a great guest for all of those reasons and because she has a powerful capacity for self-reflection, vulnerability and humor. We laughed more on this pod than almost any of the others. And we cried, together, a bit too. We hope and trust that this emotional expression is what you’re here for. References: The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis Brene Brown Interviewing Glennon Doyle, author of Untamed Resources: Community Resources and Requests Schedule a Free Parenting Support Call
1:16:05
April 12, 2020
How to Live with Your Parents During a Pandemic.
Are you an adult person living with your parents?  Are you looking at having to move in with your adult kids?  Humans lived several generations all together for the vast majority of our history.  But that is no longer the norm.  Now, there is a sense of failure and frustration, a feeling of lack of freedom and autonomy that comes with parents and their adult children living together, but does it have to be that way?  We think not. Description: In this episode, we tackle the question of how to live more peacefully with family.  Whether you are riding out the pandemic under the same roof, or are separated by many miles, getting along with family can be challenging. The relationships we, as children, had with our parents hang around like ghosts, haunting our present interactions, but Charles and Kelly have a framework for thinking about these relationships differently and suggestions for developing a practice that increases capacity for being together in a new way.  Join us as we address a listener question and take a deep dive into the kind of personal work that can bring joy back into stressful relationships in stressful times. References: Dead Again [1991] starring Kenneth Branagh and Emma Thompson, with Robin Williams William Glasser’s Choice Theory: 5 Basic Needs Performance Rock Climbing [1993] by Dale Goddard, Udo Neumann The National Domestic Violence Hotline/Text Channel
1:17:24
April 5, 2020
How to Belong: Tapping Collective Genius in a Crisis
What would it be like if you could rally your whole neighborhood to tackle a serious  problem you all share?  What would it feel like to help lots of people find strength and solutions they never imagined they had inside themselves?  Can you imagine facing a massive crisis like, say, a pandemic, with love, calm, and optimism? You definitely can if you are today’s guest, Tracey McConnell.  A long-time community organizer, non-profit advisor, and personal growth coach, Tracey is no stranger to hardship or challenge, but she meets difficulty with a loving resolve that is truly inspirational.  Her special skills help her to bring diverse people together and find the common ground that makes it possible to move into a solution.  A skillful facilitator, Tracey leads us in a Focused Conversation to model how we can come together on even the most difficult topics, see the humanity in everyone, and make things better for all.  Join us for a refreshing dip into the pool of possibilities on episode 24 of the Rocket Feather Podcast. SHOW NOTES References: Creative Capacities LLC:  https://www.CreativeCapacitiesLLC.com Tracey@CreativeCapacitiesLLC.com (928) 925-4020 Tracey on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CreativeCapacitiesLLC/ Rocket Feather Community Lab on Facebook Institutions We Support & Admire: Arizona Community Foundation MATForce El Gato Azul The Raven Cafe Music Credits:  AShamaluevMusic Quotes: “Between Stimulus and Response There Is a Space. In That Space Is Our Power To Choose Our Response” Charles attributed this quote to Victor Frankel but apparenly the story is more complex. Check it out at Quote Investigator: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/02/18/response/
1:16:27
March 29, 2020
How to Handle Covid - Reduce, Reconnect, Recover
Are you a little feeling a little concerned? Freaked out? Or strangely numb? Hey, all your emotions are valid. It’s OK. Join us for this slightly slapdash, but fully engaged podcast episode as Charles shares the emotional stance that helped him prepare his family for the pandemic. He also talks honestly about how he bounced back from overwhelm and grief. In the second half of the pod, Charles explains the cyclical, three phase model for getting through the pandemic and all you all to find ways to lead. SHOW NOTES: Recommended Twitter Follows Laura Fitton @pistachio Great curator of info. Also posts dogs, chickens, and lullabyes. Andy Slavit @ASlavitt Former Medicare, Medicaid, ACA head for Obama Admin Mike Birbiglia @birbigs So far daily Instagram Live comedy shows Other Resources A List Of Live Virtual Concerts To Watch During The Coronavirus Shutdown Music By: Joseph Earwicker “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
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March 23, 2020
How to Think About a Pandemic: Covid 19 and Community
Guest: Dr. Christine P. Stewart, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Department of Nutrition at UC Davis Director, Institute for Global Nutrition As a health researcher, mom, & world traveler, Christine Stewart has an excellent view of the delicate web of health services around the world, and of how communities deal with adverse circumstances. Join us in conversation about how to take responsibility for ourselves and each other during crisis, what makes us resilient, and how we can find opportunities for growth and connection during these turbulent times. A nutritional epidemiologist, Dr. Stewart wants us to be sure not to confuse her with someone who studies infectious diseases. But this smart, informed, scientist, shares with us her views on how to ride out a pandemic, how to redirect focus on to what’s important and how to stay in community while remaining more than 6 feet apart. Dr. Stewart’s full bio: https://nutrition.ucdavis.edu/people/christine-stewart Helen Keller International https://www.hki.org/ A world without barriers to sight, health, and human potential. Centers for Disease Control [CDC] - https://www.cdc.gov/ Coalition for Compassion and Justice [CCJ] - http://yavapaiccj.org/ Ending and preventing homelessness. We are a service and a solution to those living in homelessness, working toward a just and compassionate community for all! Yavapai County Food Bank - http://www.yavapaifoodbank.org/ Providing meals, school supplies, computer classes, and more for families in need.
56:18
March 17, 2020
How to Suceed in Business - Women in Science - Part 2
In honor of Int’l Women’s Day, we’re releasing a double live podcast. Each segment is chock full of inspiring women in science, tech, and business. Every guest brought a unique story about passion for science and important insights about overcoming obstacles on the way to realizing that passion.
1:00:16
March 9, 2020
How to Persist - Women in Science - Part 1
In honor of Int’l Women’s Day, we’re releasing a double live podcast. Each segment is chock full of inspiring women in science, tech, and business. Every guest brought a unique story about passion for science and important insights about overcoming obstacles on the way to realizing that passion. We recorded this double episode live at a beer release party and fundraiser for girls in STEM (Sci/tech/eng/math) programs. The party was hosted by Granite Mountain Brewing, a woman owned business. Our contribution to the party was inviting five different STEM women (and three more showed up)! Two women we invited acted as guest hosts asking questions and guiding the flow. We recorded over two hours of stories, laughter, camaraderie, connection and we’re bringing it to you in two parts so you can pace yourselves. GUESTS: Olivia Lee - Assistant Professor at University of Alaska - researching climate change in the arctic - mom, graphic designer, andChampion of Women in STEM . Michelle Baker, Systems analyst and tech consultant - mom - local Tech Champion Jenn Flaa - NASA Engineer, serial tech entrepreneur, and rock vocalist Zakiya Shivji - Forest Service geologist and dancer Valerie Burns - Yavapai Library Network Manager and early women’s IT pioneer Audra Yamamoto - Engineer, business owner, local instigator Jen Herbert - Former future Surgeon General, US Business Owner of the Year SHOW NOTES: Resources & Articles Granite Mountain Brewing Olivia Lee’s T-Shirt Fundraiser Northern Arizona Tech Alliance Prescott Women Magazine Superstition Meadery The Mom Project A List of Female Heads of State
1:13:02
March 9, 2020
A Relationship Quickie - How Charles and Kelly Keep it Working
Want to know the secret to successful relationship?  You know there's not one secret, silly! A dear friend of Charles's said, "There are some things you can only learn while being alone and there are some things you can only learn by being in relationship.". Take a listen to hear how the two Rocket Feather hosts have constructed a pretty powerful relationship by doing combining what they learned while alone with what they now learn together.  SHOW NOTES:  Tickets for the Phoenix College TEDx HERE.  Granite Mountain Brewery Event HERE.
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March 2, 2020
How to be a Better We - Linking Community Activism to Personal Healing
How do we remain true to ourselves while being good members of a community? What kinds of thoughts or attitudes can lead to personal and social healing? How can privileged folks find the courage to engage? Why is there always too much food at a potluck? We don’t answer all these questions during this one podcast episode but we do have a wonderful, charismatic and thoughtful guide to the issues. Rowdy has worked in the field of diversity and inclusion for over a decade.  He is an innovator with a myriad of different workshops informing about issues related to colorblindness, to Interest Based Negotiations, to Nonviolent Communication and Conflict Resolution, to Positive Masculinity, and seeing People as Possibilities. An engaging and passionate presenter and facilitator, Rowdy is also the director of Paradise Valley Community College’s Diversity, Incorporated, and he is an active member of the Healing Racism Public Dialogue Series. He co-wrote the proposal for Paradise Valley Community College’s Leadership Certificate. He also sits on the Desperado LGBT film festivals screening committee. He produces and delivers his Inclusive Activism Podcast bi-weekly to his thousands of listeners about how the intersections of Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity work are a form of Personal Leadership. He was also a 2014 winner of the Arizona Diversity Alliance’s Diversity Champion Award, as well as the John and Suanne Rouche Award for Excellence for the Community College from the League of Innovation in 2015. And just when you thought that was enough, Rowdy raises a rescued pit bull named Tank. SHOW NOTES: Resources & Articles Inclusive Activism Website Inclusive Activism and Emerging Evolution Podcasts on Spotify Phoenix College TEDx Conference - March 4th Adlerian Psychology
1:07:31
February 24, 2020
Why Not Be a Leader - A Hometown Conversation Breeanya Hinkel
How do you build the kind of community you want to live in? It turns out there are a slew of ways to go about it and this week’s guest is putting them all in play. Breeanya uses her platform as a magazine publisher to champion other people, businesses, and projects. In her “spare” time she uses her leadership skills to support important arts and youth nonprofits. And, in the course of this friendly, light-hearted interview, she convinced us that getting outside for a hike is another important way to build community. Breeanya was born & raised in Prescott, AZ and is a true “Prescott Woman.” She has been the designer and editor of Prescott Woman Magazine since 2008. In 2018 she took the bold step of purchasing the business.  Breeanya also owns a graphic design business, BJH Designs, serves on the board for Prescott Center for the Arts, and is a member of the Prescott Valley Economic Development Foundation, and Prescott Women Who Care. Breeanya was pleased to be one of the recipients of the 2013 Prescott Area Young Professionals Visionary Awards. In 2016, she was a “20 Under 40” winner, one of 20 notable area entrepreneurs, managers, business owners and professionals younger than 40.  Breeanya enjoys hiking and exploring in Northern Arizona and the world. SHOW NOTES: Resources & Businesses Prescott Woman Magazine BJH Designs Prescott Athena Awards - Nomination Form International Athena Awards The Hike Shack Gripstone Climbing Gym
1:11:21
February 16, 2020
More Blood! A Double Date with Horror Movie Directors
Love horror movies? Hate horror movies? Either way, you’ll love this conversation about movies, being married, and how to rock social media. We learned about why horror films work to talk about real social issues, how to use clear communication to work together as a creative couple, how to get over writer’s block and how to bring empathy to social media and marketing. Angie & Andrew Johnson-Schmit are independent filmmakers and social media strategists who live and work in Prescott, AZ. They have written and directed the horror/comedy short, Dead Votes Society,the web series Diary of a Mad Scientist’s Assistant and Dr. Wanker's Short Adventures. Their debut feature film, Witch Child is currently in post production. As partners in the social media strategy/management agency, Slackerwriter, LLC, Angie & Andrew consult with non-profits, artists and small businesses to build social media engagement with their followers. They also provide social media support for organizations and individuals interested in achieving engagement with less daily commitment. Their motto is: "Taking up the slack, so you can relax!" SHOW NOTES: Movies Witch Child Trailer Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Shining The Conjuring Get Out Articles, & Events Social Media for Artists, Nonprofits & Small Businesses - Slacker Writer Workshop 7 Ways to Stop Messing Up Your Social Media - Slacker Writer Blog 5 Ways Marcia Lucas Gave STAR WARS Its Heart
1:27:28
February 9, 2020
Living an Epic Life with Claire Louge
Do you want to live an epic life? Do you want to know how to build sustaining community through small acts? Do you wonder how art folds into a life of leadership? Do you want to hit someone with a foam sword? We won’t claim that Claire Louge has all the answers but… she kinda does. We strongly recommend you take some time to bask in the honesty, clarity, and passion that Claire brings to this podcast episode. Her personal story covers despair, near death, and recovery. Her professional path charts community, creativity, humility, and leadership. Guest Bio: Claire Louge is the Executive Director of Prevent Child Abuse Arizona, a statewide non-profit organization dedicated to preventing child maltreatment before it happens, and helping those who have experienced childhood trauma build resilience to its effects. Claire obtained her Bachelor’s degree in Human Development from Cornell University and her Masters of Education in Human Relations from Northern Arizona University. Claire is also a Certified Trauma Support Specialist through the Arizona Trauma Institute, certified by the National Alliance of Children's Trust and Prevention Funds to teach the Strengthening Families™ Protective Factors Framework, and an authorized Stewards of Children® facilitator. She is a graduate of the American Express Leadership Academy at the ASU Lodestar Center and is also an AmeriCorps VISTA alumnus. Claire also volunteers her time to create and produce live action role playing adventure events for teens. Show Notes: Organizations & Events Prevent Child Abuse Arizona Statewide Child Abuse PREVENTION Conference - July 21 & 22 Wayfinder Camp Books & Articles Things My French Mother Taught Me - Claire Louge SoulCraft - David Plotkin Choice Theory - William Glasser Positive Childhood Experiences So You Want to Talk About Race - Ijeoma Oluo
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February 2, 2020
Better Together: Teens, Community, and Activism
Are you wondering why teens are showing up in the news so much over the last eighteen months? Are you curious about why so many are more active, more engaged, more committed, than ever? Join us for an intergenerational Rocket Feather podcast as we try to answer those questions. This week we interview two teen leaders and activists from the Teen Advisory Council, Shannon and Emma, along with their adult mentor, McKenzie MacIntyre. McKenzie has a bachelor’s degree in psychology with an emphasis in Adolescent Development and is studying toward her M.Ed. in School Counseling.  She serves as Coordinator for the Teen Advisory Council at the Launch Pad Teen Center. McKenzie chose Emma (age 16) and Shannon (age 17) to be a part of the podcast because, “Both girls show tremendous strength in leading their peers and being advocates for their community.” Find out what these smart, passionate teens are doing to make life better for themselves and their generation and how you might fit into their plans. SHOW NOTES: Youth Movements & Teen Centers The Launch Pad Teen Center The Neutral Zone Teen Center Sunrise Movement March For Our Lives Black Lives Matter Articles, Events & Videos “Greta Thunberg: Person of the Year” - Time Magazine, December 2019 “From Parkland to Sunrise: A Year of Extraordinary Youth Activism” - New Yorker, Feb 2019 “New Research: Diversity + Inclusion = Better Decision Making At Work” - Forbes Magazine, September 2017. “Tough Talk with Stasia Rivera” - Teen Advisory Council Event “The Power of Vulnerability” - Brene Brown “The Infinite Game” - Simon Sinek The Evolutionary Power of Children and Teenagers - Alison Gopnik Interview
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January 26, 2020
Passionate Introverts and Fat Grey Cats
Do you wonder what "Rocket Feather" means? Are you curious about what makes two introverts so chatty? Looking for some laughs, some feels, and some value this long weekend? Join Charles and Kelly on this episode to learn and ponder more about making Relationships work, sparking Creativity, building Community, and healing Masculinity.  Show Notes:  Books to Read For the Love of Men - Liz Plank How to Be an Adult - David Richo Organizations to Follow The Aspen Institute (Community Weaving) ManKind Project
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January 20, 2020
Art Saves Lives - A Rock n Roll Interview
Are you curious about the creative process, relationships, and the healing power of art? Come hang out with the Rocket Feather team on their first double date with the creative and life partners of Blushing Cactus Photography.  Tracy Fultz and Jeremiah Scheffer inspire us with their bold images, their generous approach to the act of taking pictures, their love for community, and their love for one another.   To honor Tracy and Jeremiah's love of live music in the Phoenix scene, we feature some song samples from their favorite bands. Enjoy the energy! SHOW NOTES:  Blushing Cactus Instagram: @blushingcactusphotography  Elizabeth Gilbert on the Nature of Creativity TED Neil Preston - Iconic Rock Photography MUSIC PLAYED Under the Intro - The Bayou Bandits "Take Me Back" First Break - Break the Robot "The A List" Second Break - The Black Moods "Belladonna" Under the Outro - The Bellwethers - "Schizophrenic Zen"
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January 13, 2020
We Will Pump YOU Up - Building Deep Strength
Are you ready for the new year, new decade, new reality? Life in the Roaring Twenties is going to be challenging in ways we can't even imagine. But it doesn't have to be joyless, lonely, or futile. Kelly and Charles have some experience developing the kind of personal and relational skills that give hope in tough times. In this podcast, you get to spend some time exploring the difference between shallow strength and Deep Strength. This episode even comes with a free Deep Strength workout plan that you can start today! Show Notes:  Deep Strength Workout Plan - Download it here Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" quote comes from his 1910 speech Citizenship in a Republic. BIGNESS and Superpower concept courtesy of Fabeku Fatunmise, Kelly's business coach.  Rumi's Poem "The Guest House"
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January 6, 2020
Facilitator of the Inevitable - A Conversation with a Eco-Therapist Adam Vellturo
Are you one of those people who knows there's more to life than what's on the surface? Join the Rocket Feather team for a dive into the depths of soul, growth, and hope for the future. This week's guest is Adam Vellturo, an ecotherapist who has spent the last 30 years guiding people into health and a more complete relationship with their soul. Be sure to listen all the way to the end for Adam's prescription for easy soul work and a recitation of a Walt Whitman poem that are both perfect for clear, cold winter nights. 
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December 29, 2019
Home for the Holidays - Top Two Tips for Family Visits
In this episode, Charles and Kelly offer up their usual mix of empathy, humor, and wisdom about one of the most difficult topics for all of us: visiting family. They make the point, that even in the most loving, stable, and supportive family, dysfunction, pain, frustration can simmer just under the surface. This podcast presents two very simple, very actionable tips to try for the holidays that might lesson some of the pain and dysfunction. 
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December 23, 2019
Diving into the Heart of the Dragon with Molly McGinn
Molly McGinn takes us on a Hero's Journey into Healing, Learning, and Community Molly McGinn is a learning specialist focused on designing and facilitating leadership and management skills training for global companies and nonprofit organizations. Her life story and intellectual/spiritual journey are much more complex and interesting though, than that LinkedIn-worthy business bio. Molly has literally traveled around the world - the long way, as she says. As a very young woman she went to Japan to study for a year at a Zen monastery, and then, naturally, became a Pan Am stewardess. See if you can follow along to hear how that career choice eventually led to her sitting on the edge of the Grand Canyon with a founding member of the Chinese Communist Party. You’ll also want to listen so you can hear about Tibet, the nature of self and community, and for two Zen Buddhist jokes. Molly has a strong personal dedication to her own lifelong learning and to community building at the local and global levels. Toward the end of this episode, Molly talks enthusiastically about her most recent project, a group of intentional learning communities for promising young people in recovery. We know you will enjoy this podcast and we hope you’ll respond with some comments and questions.
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December 16, 2019
Love, Roller Derby, and the End of Homelessness
Join us for a deep dive with Jessi Hans, a bona fide Community Weaver dedicated to ending homelessness in Everybody’s Hometown, Prescott, Arizona. After becoming Executive Director of CCJ, [Coalition for Compassion and Justice], Jessi set a bold agenda to include and uplift everyone in our hometown. In a few short years, her team and partners have made a huge impact, and along the way, she’s worked to reinvent nonprofit teams, motivate and nurture her family, and consciously find ways to grow and develop as a person. In this interview, Jessi helps us figure out how we can support marginalized people [hint: treat them like full members of the community with agency and value]. Jessi also explains how she continues to motivate herself and inspire her people to work at their highest and deepest levels.  Warning: this episode is NOT a bummer!!
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December 9, 2019
Everybody Poops: A Treatise on Dichotomies
We’re glad that you’ve chosen to be in conversation with us today. In this episode, Kelly and I talk about things that matter to us: The dichotomy and union of the opposites represented by the brand RocketFeather; the difficulty and importance of getting things done while staying true to direction and intention and; the real, and beautiful lesson gleaned from a children’s picture book. We hope you enjoy our mix of deep, personal exploration and accessible fun. We welcome your thoughts on our topics and feedback on our delivery. WARNING: as you might glean from the episode title, we use the word poop and it’s less G-rated synonym quite frequently in this week’s show. Show Notes -  Books Mentioned:  Everybody Poops - Taro Gomi Amanda Mayer Stinchecum https://www.powells.com/book/everyone-poops-9780916291457 King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine - Robert Moore https://www.powells.com/book/-9780062506061 Go to www.audibletrial.com/rocketfeather and search for "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert. Websites Mentioned:  Purchase your Zokni match at https://www.genuinewonder.com/s/shop Zokni Discussion music courtesy of Bensound.com
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December 2, 2019
Coaching and Community Weaving
In this episode Kelly and Charles interview Tom Check who is helping people make breakthroughs for them selves AND to build sustaining community.  Tom Check is someone the rest of us are trying to live up to. We been Tom’s, co-facilitators, colleagues, and friends. In all of our different experiences with Tom, he always ups the quality of the moment, the conversation, the project, the program. He does that with his powerful intelligence, his drive, and his passion for excellence and efficiency. In this conversation, Tom talks about the happenstance and drive in his own life, how he came to be a coach, and why he hosts monthly dinners at his house with relative strangers.  SHOW NOTES: Books Mentioned-  Jocko Willick on After Action Reports https://www.powells.com/book/extreme-ownership-how-the-u-s-navy-seals-lead-win-9781250067050 Other Resources -  David Brooks on Social Weaving https://www.aspeninstitute.org/programs/weave-the-social-fabric-initiative/ ChoiceCoaching www.choicecoaching.us Four Stages of Development (To me, By me, Through me, As me) Peter Sage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFk-J35NEVU
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November 24, 2019
Re-defining Strength for the Challenges Ahead
What would it be like if we could recognize and leave behind the kind of strength that included violence, vengeance, and exclusion? What if we could define our strength by how inclusive, present, thoughtful, and persistent we were as individuals, couples, and communities. In this solo episode, Charles muses that the shift from "power over" strength to "power with" strength will lead to easier, more fulfilling relationships AND give us a chance to survive and thrive in the 21st Century.  Show Notes Books Mentioned:  Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg www.cnvc.org He: Understanding Masculine Psychology by Robert Johnson (I actually suspect that the section on emotions vs. mood is in We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Feire Other Resources:  Validate in Place - Charles's TEDx talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjnatTOPcgI David Roberts Twitter Feed: https://twitter.com/drvox
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November 18, 2019
Opening your Heart with Tony Himes
In this warm, intimate interview, you get to hear about the sense of hope, joy, and connection that Tony Himes brings to his work and his life. Tony has been a Marriage and Family Therapist for over 20 years and is the Executive Director of Arizona Gestalt Institute. Tony completed his Master of Science degree in Educational Psychology and is now an adjunct faculty member at Prescott College.    During this long, relaxed chat, Tony shares deeply from his own profession and personal experience about what it means to "be in contact" - to connect with oneself or another in a powerfully open, humble, and supportive way. At the end of the episode, you are invited to join in on short exercise to get in contact with yourself.    Enjoy.
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November 11, 2019
The Power and Possibility of the Circle
Join us for our interview with Jessica Stickel. Jessy is a lifelong learner and a forever aspiring possibilitarian. She is passionate about supporting people in discovering their wealth that is within them and their circumstances. She has been serving families for over 20 years in a plethora of roles. She started as a Family Support Specialist for Head Start, then became a School Counselor, and later got her certification in Life Coaching. She is currently the Student Success Coach at Prescott High School and founder of Inspired Freedom Coaching where she works with teens, families, and adults to become the best version of themselves. In the Episode, Jessy talks about how she discovered the power of counseling in a group setting (the Circle) and her belief that everybody (including teens) already has the resources and knowledge she needs. https://www.inspiredfreedomcoaching.com/ Watch Jessy's TEDx talk, "Wealth is Within." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7mRfh5m2w
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October 27, 2019
The Portable Episode
Come along for a ramble with hosts Charles and Kelly while we talk about our current projects and the fear and excitement that come up for us. Includes diversions into whether to play to your strengths and whether generalists are more successful. A dead raven makes a cameo appearance. 
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October 23, 2019
The Importance of Being Heard or Goddammit Now YOU Listen to Me.
The inaugural episode of the RocketFeather podcast. Join Kelly and Charles as they dig into what it means to listen and be heard.
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October 21, 2019