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Interesting Lives of Ordinary People

Interesting Lives of Ordinary People

By Rohini Rathour

Every life is interesting when we as observers know where to look and ask the right questions. Being ordinary can be a gift. A chance to explore and experiment away from watchful eyes and without the burden of high expectations. Join me in conversation with my guests who talk about an event that changed their life. We delve deep into what followed and how they turned adversity or an unexpected turn of events into something meaningful.
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Sanjay Anandaram - Startup Mantras and Cultural Revival

Interesting Lives of Ordinary PeopleApr 05, 2023

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Sanjay Anandaram - Startup Mantras and Cultural Revival

Sanjay Anandaram - Startup Mantras and Cultural Revival

I’ve known Sanjay for over thirty years from our time together at business school in India He is one of the most well read and informed people I know. He is highly regarded for his experience and views on entrepreneurship and innovation, and his ability to be brutally honest in his capacity as mentor to startups, established companies and industry bodies. He jokingly describes himself as not just a mentor, but a tormentor to his mentees.

As a passionate advocate of entrepreneurship and innovation, he writes, lectures, advises, invests and mentors startups, companies and industry bodies on innovation, entrepreneurship and entrepreneurial thinking. He is the co-founder of a not-profit company, Network of Indian Cultural Enterprises (NICEorg.in) that aims to create an ecosystem for nurturing and growing successful Indian cultural enterprises; the global ambassador for iSpirt (ispirt.in) a not-for-profit technology focused think-do tank that works to create digital platforms for societal transformation, Executive Board member of IIIT Bangalore housed Mosip.io, an open source national ID platform for countries, and advisor with the Data Governance Network. He also serves on the boards of publicly traded Quess Corp, Allsec Technologies, impact consulting company Sattva Consulting, governing board member of TiE Bangalore, and advisor to NSRCEL-IIMB, CWE and other organisations.

Sanjay has led or played key roles in several pioneering high tech cross border product development initiatives. As an entrepreneur, he co-founded Neta, perhaps the first VC backed software company in Silicon Valley created by founders who had relocated from India, that subsequently became a part of Infoseek/Disney. He also set up Venturekatalyst, India’s first entrepreneur focused web magazine and JumpStartUp in 2000, one of India’s 1st tech oriented VC funds, investing in Silicon Valley and India. In 2016, he published Startup Mantras, which became one of the top business books of that year, according to Business Insider. It is a collection of 100 lessons for entrepreneurs and managers, and is unusual in that it packed so much wisdom with such brevity and simplicity.



Apr 05, 202356:33
The Gift of Life - Living Kidney Donation

The Gift of Life - Living Kidney Donation

In 2022, it is estimated that there are 106,000 people who are known to be waiting for an organ transplant, of which 92,000 (87%) are waiting for a kidney. The average waiting time for a kidney is longer than for any other organ: 3-5 years with with many not surviving the long wait. During that time, most patients will undergo dialysis and live with severe dietary restrictions.

In today's episode you will meet 22 year old Ayush Chandwani who had his first kidney transplant at the tender age of 6, and a second one a few months ago. He is one of the lucky ones. He received a kidney first from his mother Smriti and more recently from his uncle Sanjay who both share their experiences of being living kidney donors. 

In the course of this conversation, you will understand and appreciate the important role kidneys play in our body, and why it is the most endangered of organs. Diabetes and high blood pressure are the top two causes of kidney failure. This conversation might help you take greater control of your health and preempt the onset of some of these chronic conditions that are caused by our lifestyle choices.


Nov 16, 202256:03
Joanna Davis - Catastrophic Compassion and Divine Calling

Joanna Davis - Catastrophic Compassion and Divine Calling

In this conversation, Joanna talks about the experiences in her formative years that taught her the meaning of catastrophic compassion. She offers a moving account of how she first encountered death and the grief that stayed suppressed for years. Her career trajectory, with its twists and turns, is a reminder that life has interesting ways of making us pay attention. Saving the best for last, Joanna described her vision and mission that is so needed, and yet controversial. 

Joanna Davis, MCC is one amongst a very small worldwide community of Master Coaches, as defined by the International Coaching Federation. She has over 5,000 hours of coaching experience, spent seven years as Senior Faculty for a Level 2 ICF credentialed school and works in-house as a Corporate Life Coach for a South Florida Fortune 500 company of 20,000+ employees. She is an ICF PCC Assessor, serves as a Mentor Coach for both ICF and ReciproCoach, and has a small private practice specialising in coaching to Executive Development. Her passions include the neuroscience of human behaviour, creating food forests, and trying to keep up with her Basenjis.

Aug 31, 202257:57
Leon VanderPol - The Path from Doing to Being

Leon VanderPol - The Path from Doing to Being

Leon VanderPol is an internationally recognised leader, master-teacher, and author in the field of transformational coaching and transformative living. He is the Founder of the Center for Transformational Coaching and his book, A Shift in Being: The Art and Practices of Deep Transformational Coaching, sold in multiple languages, is bringing his work to new audiences daily.  

Leon has spent over two decades immersed in the dynamics of personal and inter-personal change. At the core of Leon’s teaching lies the transformation of human consciousness—what happens when we consistently begin to experience ourselves beyond our ego-based state of consciousness, as our essential Self and Soul.  

Today he works with people from around the world to explore the boundaries of their existence, grow into new paradigms of personal experience, and tap into their most authentic Self.  He is Canadian by birth, Dutch by ancestry, and has called Taiwan home for over 22 years.

Aug 14, 202255:21
Living with Alcoholism (part 2) - in Conversation with Paul Babin

Living with Alcoholism (part 2) - in Conversation with Paul Babin

If you listened to the episode titled Living with Alcoholism, you will know that its purpose was to invite conversation around the subject of alcoholism and to create a space that was free from judgement. I was so happy when Paul Babin, having listened to the podcast episode, reached out to me and suggested we have that conversation and publish it.  Paul has been a coach, mentor and friend to me over the past few years. What you are about to hear is a slightly edited version of an unscripted conversation led by Paul in which he raised his concerns, asked me questions that helped me delve deeper and offered guidance and advice from his own experience of living with alcoholism. Unlike the previous episode, this is not a coaching session. It is a two way conversation, in which admittedly, I am doing most of the talking! I feel that we achieved a balance by tackling some heavy issues with compassion and even humour. If you found this and the previous episode helpful, please help us reach a bigger audience. You can do this by sharing the link to our podcast and by posting your feedback where possible. 

Paul is a former award winning cinematographer for several Hollywood A list movies. He turned his back on that career to become a life coach. You can listen to the podcast episode - Paul Babin - Life After Hollywood - in which Paul talks about the turning point that created that shift for him and what life lessons have made him the man he is today. 


Aug 08, 202201:02:48
Living with Alcoholism - Rohini Rathour with Dipti Singh

Living with Alcoholism - Rohini Rathour with Dipti Singh

Today’s episode of iLoOP is a bit different, especially as the voice you will hear will be mostly mine. 

I share with you today a recording of a deep coaching session I had only yesterday with Dipti Singh, who is a life coach and is part of a wonderful community of people who are learning the art of deep transformational coaching with Leon VanderPol. The session I am sharing with you culminates a series of coaching sessions I have had with Dipti and other coaches who are my peers in the Deep Coaching Intensive (DCI) community. When I went into the session, I had no idea I would publish it, nor that I would share so much of my personal life with my listeners.

Dipti was masterful in the way she let me be my vulnerable and authentic self. She heard me and she held me in her compassionate presence. And you will witness a genuine shift occur within me. It is a powerful real life example of how we can find solutions to even the most difficult problems when we are given the space and the silence to let the answers within us emerge.

Alcoholism takes many prisoners, most of whom are not even drinking. Living with alcoholism comes with many social taboos and deep seated shame. Most people feel reluctant to share their story because of fear of judgment, or because they simply want to forget and move on. I am sharing my family’s story today because I believe we need to look at the topic of alcoholism with greater compassion and openness. I hope this episode will spark a conversation and sow a seed of greater understanding of the condition - its causes and consequences. I have to warn you, that because of the unscripted and largely unedited nature of the audio, there is raw emotion and one swear word. Caution is advised! Thank you for listening.

Jul 08, 202201:06:01
Sian Young - From Street Life to Sustainable Living

Sian Young - From Street Life to Sustainable Living

Sian is a shining example of a life that has not be defined by its beginnings. We can’t always choose how we begin, but we can choose who we become. From the age of fifteen Sian spent seven years on the streets: a homeless teenager. She’s written about her story of living on the streets in her book Teenage Kicks. In today’s episode Sian talks about how she turned her life around and what gets her out of bed each day.

Sian is an International Speaker, TEDx Speaker and Co-Founder of ©Centre for Sustainable Action. Sian believes in a world where businesses are sustainable and profitable; a world in which cooperation triumphs over competition. She calls it the “interconnection” between planet and profit. She and her husband are on a mission to turn small businesses and entrepreneurs into profitable and sustainable enterprises by ‘humanising’ business through cooperation. She earned her title as a ©Sustainable Success Coach simply by living by the mantra ‘Health and Well-Being in Life and Business will save the planet’ Sian has co-created the SDG - Assessment App and ©SHaW Model for sustainable health & wellbeing both research-driven tools for sustainable success in Life & Business.  Her book Teenage Kicks: A True Story of Dark Streets to Bright New Beginnings is available on Amazon. 



Jun 05, 202242:14
Madhura Auddy - Making Learning a Life Skill

Madhura Auddy - Making Learning a Life Skill

Madhura believes that the youth of today will shape our tomorrow. With this in mind, she started working with Podar Jumbo Kids and completing my ECCed (Early Childhood Care and Education) qualification. After graduating in Developmental Counselling from SNDT, she started working in children’s day care services, including in a leadership role, followed by work at a school in the North India.She became a facilitator and trainer for teachers with The Teacher Foundation, followed by a "Teacher as an Innovator" certification  from OEP, Finland. This led to her delving into the deeper aspects of children’s education, their approach to learning and creating tools for becoming a lifelong learner.  

Madhura is the founder of “Learning to Learn”, a course that aims to turn children into lifelong learners. She describes herself as a spoilt daughter, supportive wife and loving mother who is striving to be a compassionate and accepting human being. She views her life’s journey as one of constant learning.  You can reach her via email – madhura@learningtolearn.in

Apr 10, 202240:53
Adrian Hales - Facing your Fears to find Fulfilment

Adrian Hales - Facing your Fears to find Fulfilment

Adrian is a transformation coach who creates profound mindset shifts for his clients. He helps them focus on both their inner alignment and the outer transformation of their life and business. His tough love and supportive approach creates a new sense of freedom for his clients. Adrian is a former soldier turned master neuro-systemic coach. His clients include other driven coaches, high achievers and business owners ready to move to the next level.

Mar 25, 202243:19
My Vipassana Experience - Ten Days of Silence and Stillness

My Vipassana Experience - Ten Days of Silence and Stillness

In this special episode, I share the experiences and insights from my recent ten days at the Dhamma Sukhakari Vipassana Meditation Centre in Suffolk, UK. Vipassana is an ancient Buddhist practice whereby you train your mind and body to experience things as they are, not as you want them to be. It was both intense and interesting.  I am grateful to my friend Sanat Rao for hosting this conversation with me and drawing out the most useful aspects of my experience.  If you're considering going on a Vipassana retreat for the very first time, you may it helps you go better prepared and get more out of your experience.

Dec 01, 202156:18
Jennifer Ramsey - Embracing the change that is menopause

Jennifer Ramsey - Embracing the change that is menopause

My guest today is Jennifer Ramsey.  Jennifer and I were colleagues for seven years when we both worked in wealth management.  With a busy and often stressful working life and a young family, Jennifer used fitness  as a daily antidote. She was a keen cyclist and long distance runner who found a way to weave both into her daily life.  Then five or six years ago things started to change. Jennifer describes her journey through menopause, how recognition of her symptoms led her to be kinder to herself and how the sense of loss of her former self was eased by the joy she found in the acceptance of the person she has now become.

Nov 02, 202151:14
Dr Ramya Ranganathan - The Inside Out Approach to Life

Dr Ramya Ranganathan - The Inside Out Approach to Life

Dr Ramya Ranganathan is an electronic engineer from Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Madras, an alumna of Indian Institute of Management (IIM) Ahmedabad and a PhD in Organisational Behaviour from London Business School. After having worked at blue chip firms like ICICI, Infosys and Citibank, she quit the corporate world to explore the fundamental question – “why do people work?”  She spent a decade as a full time faculty member at IIM Bangalore, has three Ted talks, is a published poet and has been recognised as one of the top 15 innovators in higher education by the Ministry of Education in India. She has impacted  over 25,000 participants worldwide via her various initiatives that are designed to empower individuals to craft their own realities. You can reach Ramya via her website https://craftingourlives.com/


Oct 19, 202156:20
Dr Divya Parashar - The unexpected gifts that grief bestowed

Dr Divya Parashar - The unexpected gifts that grief bestowed

Dr Divya Parashar. Divya is a psychotherapist and certified life coach with over 20 years experience, 13 of which were spent working closely with patients who suffered life changing spinal injuries. As a consultant to The Ganga Foundation, a not for profit organisation in India, she continues to support people who are rebuilding their lives in the aftermath of a spinal injury. The Founder of The Ganga Foundation, Vaidyanathan (Vaidy) Singararaman, whom she mentions a few times during our conversation, sadly lost his life to Covid earlier this year. His team continue to work hard towards turning his bold vision, a fairer world for people with disabilities, into reality. 

In her current independent psychotherapy practice, Divya specialises in areas relating to depression, anxiety, stress disorders and couples therapy.  Divya is also a keen long distance runner and recently completed a solo ultramarathon in the mountainous terrain of Ladakh in India. She was inspired to make some big changes in her life following the untimely death of her beloved mother Vatsala in December 2018.  Although she continues to grieve her loss, she also eloquently describes her mother’s lasting legacy and the fresh perspective with which she now views her own life.

You can find out more about Divya via her website. 

Oct 03, 202154:39
Revathi Shivakumar - Serendipity, Silence and Spirituality
Aug 28, 202150:11
Ritu Gupta - Leaning in and finding fulfilment
Aug 18, 202142:38
Gopakumar Menon - Making the Otter the Tiger of the River
Jul 20, 202155:56
Angelina Ray - The Courage to Heal from Childhood Trauma
Jul 09, 202147:24
Kavitha Elango - The life changing impact of brain injury

Kavitha Elango - The life changing impact of brain injury

Initially, like many young Indian professionals, Kavitha pursued a career in software. She gave that up in order to bring up her two children.  In the process of parenting she practised Yoga and eventually became a Yoga teacher. Over the past 20 years she has learnt from different Yoga traditions and teachers, and evolved her teaching from being about the body to holistically working with the student at all levels of being – physical, mental and emotional. She describes herself as a seeker with a quest for learning the deeper truths of life. 

This conversation is a reminder that life has mysterious ways of preparing us for the challenges it has in store, but only if we pay attention.  In this conversation Kavitha describes the first turning point that occurred when she turned 40 that laid the foundation for her next big challenge that shook her to the core and turned hers and her family's world upside down. We talk about how she and her husband Elango dealt with their son's life threatening brain haemorrhage five years ago when he was only 17 years old.  

The true story of what happened, a step by step account of how they dealt with this crisis and the lessons they learnt in the process is beautifully encapsulated in the book This Too Shall Pass by Elango Thambiah is available on Amazon.  It has some powerful learnings for us all, irrespective of the health of our loved ones.  

You can reach Kavitha direct via email kavithaelango89@gmail.com.


Jun 23, 202146:58
Anne Jirsch - Sliding through time and changing the world
Jun 01, 202148:53
Trailer: Interesting Lives of Ordinary People (iLoOP)

Trailer: Interesting Lives of Ordinary People (iLoOP)

In this short (under 2 minute) audio I talk about what this podcast is about. It is my hope that my guests and their stories ignite a spark inside my listeners, so they feel empowered and inspired to own their own story and live a life of meaning and purpose.

May 23, 202101:48
Helen Snape - The emotional cost of being a people pleaser
May 22, 202146:09
Vaidyanathan Singararaman - Celebrating an extraordinary life

Vaidyanathan Singararaman - Celebrating an extraordinary life

Today’s episode is a special one dedicated to Vaidyanathan Singararaman. It should have been a day to celebrate his birthday. He would have received a voice message from me wishing him a happy birthday. Instead we celebrate his life: one lived fully and with purpose. 

I’d known Vaidy for over 30 years when we were both at the same business school, but in I never really knew him until about ten years ago. Social media and a few changes in my own life brought us in greater contact. I wrote a blog in 2015 which took his story to a wider audience. In 2016 he kindly agreed to be the only man in my book Leading Ladies by agreeing to share his late mother Ganga’s story. In so doing, he shared his story too. 

Vaidy never wanted to inspire or be treated as special. His greatest wish was to be treated as himself, an ordinary man whose turning point led to him living an extraordinary life. When Vaidy first told me his story for the blog, I apologised to him for not having taken more notice of him on campus, and for being so unforgivably unaware of the ordeal he had suffered. His face lit up with his characteristic gentle smile. “That is as it should be” he said. “It means you didn’t treat me any different simply because I was in a wheelchair.

I will be reading the chapter from the book Leading Ladies, titled Ganga’s Story as told by Vaidyanathan Singararaman, Co-Founder of The Ganga Foundation.

May 19, 202121:27
Suze Maclain Pont - Choosing life, one week at a time
May 14, 202150:45
Nilima Bhat - Discovering Shakti through Dance and Healing

Nilima Bhat - Discovering Shakti through Dance and Healing

Nilima Bhat is a leader in the fields of Personal Mastery, Leadership, Gender Equality and Wellbeing. She has Coauthored two books, Shakti Leadership and My Cancer Is Me. She is the Founder of the global Shakti Fellowship Program for women change-makers. I’ve known Nilima all of my adult life and remember her as one of the most talented and versatile dancers who would literally light up the stage with her presence. As with all my guests, even those who I thought I knew really well, as a result of this conversation, I have discovered new and inspiring aspects to Nilima that make me admire and respect her even more.  

May 08, 202143:44
Dr Priya Bellare - A decade of thriving post cancer surgery in the brain
May 02, 202145:13
Rajiv Maheshwari - Child is Father of Man
Apr 17, 202143:37
Paul Babin - Life after Hollywood
Apr 11, 202145:30
Anuradha Sridhar - The Darker Side of Resilience
Apr 04, 202145:04
Rohini Rathour - Being Me: My Story
Mar 31, 202132:56
John Roedel - A life of improv and regrets
Mar 28, 202140:53
Kuljit Sehmi - Work with your body to heal pain
Mar 24, 202145:12
Dr Aditi Sapre - Five Years on from the Big C

Dr Aditi Sapre - Five Years on from the Big C

Aditi is a PhD and a biostatistician at a global pharmaceutical company.  She recently hit a really important five year milestone. A cancer survivor, she talks about her diagnosis, treatment, and recovery. She credits her kids, spouse and parents, as well as the network of friends and family with providing the backbone of support in her journey from diagnosis to wellness. Above all it is her growing self awareness that proves to be the biggest support through adversity and beyond. She talks eloquently about what cancer taught her about her body, the gift of time and how she is finding fulfilment in her life. 

Mar 21, 202133:21
Shahana Roy - Time to make a difference

Shahana Roy - Time to make a difference

Shahana Roy is a Director at Time Institute in Bhopal.  At some point most people are faced with existential questions about the meaning of life and how they are living it. Shahana grappled with these big questions in her twenties, not long after graduating from IIM-Ahmedabad, one of the top business schools in India.  She met her life partner and now business partner at this critical juncture in her life.  They had a vision for a different kind of life and took the road less travelled to create something more meaningful that is making a real impact in the lives of young people.  

Mar 17, 202136:21
Sam - Grace under the influence

Sam - Grace under the influence

In this searingly honest conversation, Sam talks about growing up with an alcoholic mother, becoming a single mum in her late teens and losing her younger sister to suicide.  But this is not a sob story, and Sam is no victim. She is a daughter, sister, mother and a young grandmother who has taken ownership of her life's choices with grace and magnanimity. And perhaps for the very first time, she articulates what it would mean to rediscover her own identity and create the life she has always dreamed of.  

Mar 14, 202136:50
Dr Erin Baker - Living a fluid life

Dr Erin Baker - Living a fluid life

So much of our understanding about gender, biological sex and sexuality is changing.  No amount of science or facts can ever replace the impact of a story: the struggles of someone who just doesn't fit into the neat boxes society creates.  Dr Erin Baker is a transformational coach and strategic adviser to high performing entrepreneurs and leaders.  Erin is a doctorate in social psychology and has previously worked at Facebook and Microsoft.  In this conversation we begin with Erin sharing the three year milestone event that changed their life.  I hope you will enjoy this conversation as much as I did.  Together, one story at a time, we can make a dent in the mountain of misinformation about gender identity one. Today we hear Erin's story. 

Mar 08, 202139:36
Pramit Bhargava - Vision without sight

Pramit Bhargava - Vision without sight

An unexpected side effect of a commonly used drug changed Pramit's life. Instead of blaming his doctors or living with resentment, he took ownership of his life's choices and decided to find a different way of living. He is now the founder of a startup that creates voice enabled solutions that help the visually impaired navigate the digital world with far greater ease. Go to https://www.visio-apps.com/ to find out more. 

Mar 07, 202137:03
What this podcast is all about

What this podcast is all about

I'm Rohini Rathour and I want to make being ordinary feel like a blessing.  A chance to live freely and to be whoever you want to be without the burden of other people's expectations.  One of the best ways we can do this is through stories - through the telling and listening of real life and fictional stories, we can create magic. 

Mar 06, 202105:47