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A film podcast that digs through the bottom half of the Rotten Tomatoes barrel to re-evaluate, over-analyze and show our appreciation for all things Rotten.

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9/11 at the Movies Pt. 4: Bad Boys 2 (with Logan Kenny)

Rotten RewindSep 24, 2021

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01:30:28
The Life Aquatic (with Nick Laskin)
Sep 18, 202301:07:50
The Beach (with Alex Kolpan)

The Beach (with Alex Kolpan)

Danny Boyle and Leonardo DiCaprio head to Thailand to drink snake blood and cuck French guys in "The Beach."

In 1996, Danny Boyle was riding the success of "Trainspotting" and American studios were lining up to give him a shot at the big leagues. In 1999, Boyle teamed with Fox and Leonardo DiCaprio for his first big post "Titanic" role to bring Alex Garland's 1996 novel "The Beach" to the big screen. Unfortunately, "The Beach" failed to bring even the most die-hard DiCaprio fans to theaters, with critics giving Boyle the worst reviews of his career. Writer and filmmaker Alex Kolpan joins the podcast to break down the troubled production, as well as Boyle's beef with Ewan McGregor, Leo's early attempt to break out of teen stardom and into Serious Actor territory, underwater sex scenes, destroying beaches, and Moby.

Sep 12, 202355:43
We Own the Night & Triple 9 (with William Breen & Nick Laskin)

We Own the Night & Triple 9 (with William Breen & Nick Laskin)

James Gray has quietly made a name for himself as one of the most underrated modern filmmakers of the 21st century. From his 2000 breakout "The Yards" to last years "Armageddon Time," Gray's films have often been festival and critical darlings, but rarely had crossover appeal. After a 7 year hiatus, Gray reunited with Joaquin Phoenix and Mark Wahlberg for his first studio film, "We Own the Night." Unfortunately, the film once again failed to give Gray the crossover hit that some of his peers experienced, while leaving critics divided. Australian director John Hillcoat had a similar fate in the 2000's, adapting big literary works and garnering the support of some of our most beloved actors, without ever fully connecting with mainstream audiences. His 2016 dirty cop thriller "Triple 9" gave Hillcoat his biggest ensemble yet, led by Casey Affleck, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Anthony Mackie, Woody Harrelson, Aaron Paul and Kate Winslet auditioning to be Natasha in "Rocky and Bullwinkle." Like Gray's cop thriller, "Triple 9" failed to find crossover appeal.

Two certified Gray heads William Breen and Nick Laskin join the podcast this week to show love to Hollywood's best kept secret. We break down Gray's relationship with muse Joaquin Phoenix, the golden era of Mark Wahlberg as a legitimate actor, Anthony Mackie as one of our best shit-talkers, typecasting Aaron Paul post-Breaking Bad, Clifton Collins Jr.'s little ponytail, and Kate Winslet's misguided era of wacky accents.

You can find William's films on Vimeo and subscribe to Nick's writing on his Substack.

Sep 06, 202301:42:47
Summer of Sam (with Ryan Oliver)
Aug 28, 202301:09:19
Mars Attacks & The Lost World: Jurassic Park (with Devon Hansen & Matthew Hayes)
Aug 21, 202301:47:30
The Pelican Brief & Conspiracy Theory (with Morgan Phillips)

The Pelican Brief & Conspiracy Theory (with Morgan Phillips)

We're back in action with a pair of political thrillers starring heavyweight stars of the 90's! That's right, there was a time when Hollywood produced big budget thrillers for adults starring bonafide movie stars! First up, it's Alan J. Pakula's return to the paranoia thriller with 1993's "The Pelican Brief," starring Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington as a law student and journalist caught up in a conspiracy to assassinate members of the supreme court, who definitely do not fuck at any point. After that, it's Richard Donner's aptly titled "Conspiracy Theory," which finds Julia Roberts falling in love with a paranoid cab driver who stores Tapioca pudding in a pad-locked fridge, played by Mel Gibson at the peak of his career.

Actor and writer Morgan Phillips returns to the podcast to break down the tonally confused madness of "Conspiracy Theory" and the sleepy thrills of "The Pelican Brief." Can the star power of Denzel and Roberts make up for a by-the-numbers script? Did Mel Gibson really improvise a conspiracy about the streets of New York being covered in cum? Why wouldn't Denzel agree to kiss Julia Roberts on screen? Is Stanley Tucci one our most underrated actors? Why didn't Hollywood produce more MKUltra themed rom-coms? Find out right here on the hottest podcast in America.

Aug 04, 202301:45:02
Clint Eastwood's "The Rookie" & John Woo's "Broken Arrow" (with Jake Ures)
Jul 25, 202301:36:42
Coke Noir: 8 Million Ways to Die & 52 Pick-Up

Coke Noir: 8 Million Ways to Die & 52 Pick-Up

We're kicking off month 3 of Auteur Misfires with a pair of 1986 coke-noirs from two of the most iconic directors of the 20th century. First up, it's Hal Ashby's unlikely swan song, "8 Million Ways to Die" starring Jeff Bridges, Rosanna Arquette and a ponytailed Andy Garcia in Scarface mode. After that, it's John Frankenheimer's adaptation of Elmore Leonard's "52 Pick-Up" featuring Roy Scheider, Ann-Margaret and an all-timer villain performance from John Glover.

Why did Ashby's career decline so rapidly in the 80's? Was Frankenheimer one our most underrated filmmakers? What the fuck was going on in Ann-Margaret's career? Why is Roy Scheider rarely mentioned in the echelon of great 70's actors? Is this cinema's first and last snow cone showdown? Find out right now on this very scummy edition of Rotten Rewind.

Jul 18, 202301:10:38
Alex Cox's Walker (with Olivia Willke)
Jul 03, 202351:06
Bad Timing & Eureka (with Alex Kolpan)
Jun 26, 202301:16:44
Swept Away Double Feature
Jun 19, 202355:45
Reflections in a Golden Eye & Secret Ceremony
Jun 13, 202345:53
Ishtar (with Andrew Jacobson)
Jun 06, 202356:43
They All Laughed (with Nick Laskin)
May 30, 202301:15:10
One From the Heart (with Logan Kenny)

One From the Heart (with Logan Kenny)

The Godfather. The Godfather Part II. The Conversation. Apocalypse Now.

It's hard to think of a director with a better consecutive run than Francis Ford Coppola in the 70's. The winner of five Academy Awards and nominee of 7 more during the decade, Coppola was quickly being hailed as the greatest American filmmaker of his generation. Sure, the "Apocalypse Now" shoot was notoriously troubled and nearly killed the director, but he was in the lucrative position to make whatever the hell he wanted in 1981.

Based on a desire to work within a controlled environment after the unwieldy "Apocalypse Now" shoot and to boost his burgeoning Zoetrope Studios, Coppola set his sights on the musical "One From the Heart." But what was supposed to be a $12 million love story shot exclusively on sound stages, soon became a $26 million fiasco that saw Coppola selling his beloved Zoetrope Studios and spending the next decade on studio hired jobs trying to pay back to his debts.

Critic and writer Logan Kenny rejoins the podcast for a look back at Coppola's first major disaster. Featuring an ensemble cast headlined by Teri Garr, Raul Julia, Natassja Kinski, and most forgettably, character actor Frederic Forrest in the leading role, "One From the Heart" was a near career-ending disaster at the time, but has been reappraised ever since its re-release in 2003. Was Coppola's love story overshadowed by his desire to push technical boundaries? Does Dean Tavoularis' ingenious set design and Tom Waits' gorgeous score salvage a paper thin love story? Is Frederic Forrest a leading man? Did anybody look better on screen during the 80's than Natassja Kinski? Join us now for a melancholic trip back to the artificial Las Vegas of Coppola's dreams.

You can find Logan's writing on The Film Stage and Letterboxd.

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May 26, 202301:15:17
New York, New York (with Hannah Zipperman)

New York, New York (with Hannah Zipperman)

In 1976, Martin Scorsese could make what ever movie he wanted to. Riding the success of "Taxi Driver" and the four Oscar nominations it brought in the following year, Scorsese was given his first real blank check. In an effort to showcase his range before getting pigeonholed as the guy who makes gritty New York crime movies, Scorsese cashed in his check by paying homage to the classic 1940's musicals of his childhood. What followed was one of the most tumultuous productions of its time. Going into production without an actual shooting script, the film inevitably went over budget, hindered by on-set affairs, the death of an editor, and lots of cocaine. Almost 50 years later, "New York, New York" has been reappraised for its unexpectedly devastating depiction of a toxic relationship. But why did the film fail to connect with audiences and critics at the time of its release?
Actor Hannah Zipperman joins us to discuss the sprawling love letter to MGM musicals, and her lifelong love of Hollywood's biggest star, Liza Minnelli. We dive into the toxicity of the central relationship, how modern audiences might reject it, and how the film might have failed Minnelli. Is "New York, New York" the rare misfire in the career of our most cherished American director, or a flawed, misunderstood masterpiece? Find out now as we begin our months long descent into the world of Auteur Misfires.
You can find Hannah on Instagram @hannahzipperman.
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May 22, 202301:13:51
Foxfire & Sucker Punch (with Ella Talkin)

Foxfire & Sucker Punch (with Ella Talkin)

The male and female gaze clash in this week's Gaslight/Gatekeep/Girlboss double feature as we look back on two critically trashed stories of female empowerment and revenge. Illustrator Ella Talkin returns to the podcast to break down the opposing visions of Annette Haywood-Carter's 1996 adaptation of Joyce Carol Oates's "Foxfire" and Zack Snyder's ultimate blank check fantasy "Sucker Punch." One is a sensitive portrayal of young women united by their abuse in 90's grunge-era Portland starring Angelina Jolie in a star-making performance. The other is a teenage boy's wet dream where institutionalized women work through their collected traumas by engaging in fantastical battles against steampunk nazis scored to hip-hop remixes of Queen.

Did the botched release date of "Foxfire" sink its chances of reaching a broader teen audience? Was Angelina Jolie ever not going to be a movie star? Hey, is that pre-Rilo Kiley Jenny Lewis in her big screen debut?! Is "Sucker Punch" Zack Snyder's misunderstood take-down of the male-dominated comic book culture or does it just become the very thing it's critiquing? Why is Jon Hamm here? Why is Emily Browning covering "Where is My Mind?" and "White Rabbit" in one movie? When is Scott Glenn going to play Robert Durst? We're answering all your burning questions with a special podcast shout-out to Dash Mihok and Peter Facinelli.

You can find Ella's amazing illustrations on her website and find her on Instagram @ellatalkin!

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May 15, 202301:04:11
That Cold Day in the Park & Let's Scare Jessica to Death (with Olivia Willke)
May 15, 202301:15:53
Practical Magic & Forces of Nature (with Jean Yannarel)

Practical Magic & Forces of Nature (with Jean Yannarel)

May 15, 202301:05:36
By the Sea
May 15, 202344:48
Mommie Dearest (wth Kaycee Felton-Lui)
May 15, 202301:00:00
Spike Lee's Girl 6 (with Mariko Enkoji-Busch)
May 15, 202356:34
What Lies Beneath & Gothika

What Lies Beneath & Gothika

Before the "Saw" franchise staked their claim to the Halloween release slot, Dark Castle was delivering its annual nu-metal take on classic horror movies. Ah yes, that blissful period in between the 90's slasher wave and the post-9/11 torture porn/J-horror remake craze. During that brief window, we got movies like "House on Haunted Hill" and "Ghost Ship," but their last hurrah was the 2003 supernatural thriller "Gothika" starring a post-Oscar win Halle Berry, Penelope Cruz and Robert Downey, Jr. in his first comeback role. A minor box office success, but a critical disaster at 14%, Matheiu Kassovitz's American debut was the first in a string of post-Oscar win bombs from Berry and is mostly forgotten today. But is it really as bad as its reputation suggests?

Another relic of cinema's past is the big budget adult thriller starring bonafide movie stars. In the summer of 2000, Robert Zemeckis delivered a box office success with "What Lies Beneath," starring Michelle Pfieffer and Harrison Ford in a sort of supernatural erotic thriller. Written off as silly schlock by most critics at the time of its release, we can't help but feel like this movie be embraced with open arms by the same critics today.

So join us for this nostalgic look back at a pair of 2000's comfort watches as we discuss the last era of movie stars, bad bangs, unexpected Limp Bizkit needle drops, the underrated careers of John Carroll Lynch and Joe Morton, and white women seances. How many times can Max say the word "shlock?" Does Harrison Ford eat pussy? And most importantly, can you get fingered to these movies? Find out now!

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May 15, 202301:06:02
The Neon Demon & Crimes of Passion
May 15, 202357:15
G.I. Jane & Red Sparrow
May 15, 202301:18:10
Blonde (with Samantha Prosser)
May 12, 202301:18:27
Babylon
May 12, 202358:54
Don't Worry Darling (with Johnny Langan)
May 12, 202301:12:21
Man on Fire & Domino (with Jake Ures)
May 10, 202301:31:15
Ocean's 12 (with Andrew Jacobson)

Ocean's 12 (with Andrew Jacobson)

May 10, 202349:07
Only God Forgives & Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (with Matthew Hayes)
May 10, 202301:09:33
The Great Gatsby (with William Breen)
May 10, 202352:40
Natural Born Killers (with Alex Kolpan)

Natural Born Killers (with Alex Kolpan)

In 1994, Quentin Tarantino was on top of the film world. He had just won Cannes with "Pulp Fiction." He was riding the cult success of "Reservoir Dogs" and the Tony Scott-directed "True Romance." At the same time, Oscar-winning provocateur Oliver Stone desperately needed a hit after the box office failure of "Heaven and Earth." Months before "Pulp Fiction" premiered theatrically, Stone and Tarantino's "Natural Born Killers" debuted in dog days of summer amidst a torrent of controversy. Not only was there a heated critical debate taking place surrounding the artistic merits of the film, but the screenwriter himself was publicly disowning the film after claims that Stone had butchered his original vision.

Nearly 30 years later, "Natural Born Killers" remains a polarizing work. Years before films like "Fight Club" and "The Matrix" dominated the conversation of gun violence in the media, "Natural Born Killers" was the one of the tip of every conservative politician's tongue. Has the film endured as a satirical takedown of 90's media or is just a fascinating cultural artifact? Is it possible to make an intelligent or important satire in our social media saturated world today? Is Woody Harrelson one of our best, most underappreciated actors? Why won't Robert Downey, Jr. return to gonzo performances like this?

Filmmaker and writer Alex Kolpan returns to the podcast to answer all these questions and more, right here on America's #1 podcast.

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May 10, 202301:08:56
Speed Racer & TRON: Legacy (with Logan Kenny)
May 10, 202301:24:33
New Rose Hotel & Demonlover (with Olivia Willke)

New Rose Hotel & Demonlover (with Olivia Willke)

Vulgar Vibes continues this week with two cyberpunk thrillers from two world-renowned auteurs. First up, it's Abel Ferrara's feverish adaptation of William Gibson's "New Rose Hotel." Starring Willem Dafoe, Christopher Walken and Asia Argento, Ferrara's take on the short story was heavier on vibes than plot, centering much of the action around a prostitution ring moonlighting as a karaoke bar. It's heady sci-fi for people who fuck. After that, we're logging in to the dark web corporate espionage vibes of Olivier Assayas' disturbing, ice cold "Demonlover." Like past podcast favorites, "Gamer" and "Southland Tales," Assayas' film was both radically ahead of its time and a perfect encapsulation of early aughts cyber paranoia.

Film critic and writer Olivia Willke joins us to show her unabashed love for all things Ferrara and Demonlover to ask the question... what happens when vibes meet plot?

May 10, 202301:03:02
The Brown Bunny & My Blueberry Nights (with Alex Kolpan)

The Brown Bunny & My Blueberry Nights (with Alex Kolpan)

In 2003, Vincent Gallo brought his second feature "The Brown Bunny" to the Cannes Film Festival. The rest is history.

The so-called controversy surrounding Gallo's film became bigger than the film itself. It was called indulgent. Embarrassingly sincere. Most famously, in the words of Roger Ebert, it was "the worst film in the history of the Cannes Film Festival." And that didn't even touch on the infamous unsimulated blowjob. But what qualifies a failure? Is indulgence always a bad thing? Is the blowjob even the most disturbing part of Gallo's sophomore feature? And more importantly, in the age of PornHub, is an unsimulated blowjob that crazy to see on screen?

Critic and filmmaker Alex Kolpan joins us for an in-depth look back at Gallo's deeply personal and disturbing meditation on loneliness, trauma, and the fractured male psyche. After that, we'll be switching gears for a different kind of road trip romance for Wong Kar-wai's first and only American film, "My Blueberry Nights." Starring a beautiful ensemble of stars like Jude Law, Natalie Portman and Rachel Weisz, the film sees Kar-wai meshing his signature style with the twee sensibilities infused in American indie films of the mid-2000s. Is the film a forgotten gem or more of a curiosity for Wong Kar-wai completists? Are both of these films tailor-made for this podcast? Is Vincent Gallo trolling all of us, or is he far more sincere in his convictions than modern day shit stirrers like Kanye West and Bret Easton Ellis? Find out right here on America's #1 podcast.

You can watch Alex's short film "Voice Male" co-directed by the late, great Eli Hayes right here!

May 10, 202301:33:59
In the Mouth of Madness & Event Horizon (with Shawn Chiesa & Nick Laskin)
May 09, 202301:30:41
Death Becomes Her (with Kae Whalen)
May 09, 202342:20
The Hunger (with Kaycee Felton-Lui)
May 09, 202342:26
Hollow Man (with Mike Thorn)
May 09, 202350:18
The Devil's Rejects & Halloween II (with Nick Laskin & Lindsay Theirl)

The Devil's Rejects & Halloween II (with Nick Laskin & Lindsay Theirl)

Our five week descent into the grotesque madness of Vulgar Horror comes to an end today on the podcast. For our special Halloween send-off, we're finally diving into the 100% rotten career of musician, filmmaker and certified Wife Guy, Rob Zombie. Over the last 20 years, Zombie has amassed one of the most singular horror filmographies in the canon. Critics have almost unanimously given his work the cold shoulder, dubbing his specific brand of the genre as "Hixploitation." Today on the podcast, we're unpacking two Zombie sequels that, for better or worse, best represent the spirit of Zombie's style.

First up, it's his 2005 love letter to 70's horror and lovers on the run thrillers, "The Devil's Rejects" starring his beloved wife Sheri Moon-Zombie, Bill Moseley and the late, great Sig Haig as the unforgettable Captain Spaulding. After that, we're heading to the late aughts for Zombie's notoriously divisive sequel "Halloween II" featuring Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode and Malcolm McDowell playing the famous Dr. Loomis as a grifting scumbag.
Zombie loyalists Nick Laskin and Lindsay Theirl join us to discuss their unabashed love for Zombie and how hard it can be defending the cult filmmaker in an age of "elevated horror." Why is Zombie so alienating for even the most die-hard of horror fans? Why are horror fans becoming Marvel-esque gatekeepers with 40 year old franchises? Are audiences turned off by genre entries that reckon with our enjoyment of watching innocent people murdered before our eyes? Is "Halloween II" the "Fire Walk with Me" of the franchise? There's only one place to find out.

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May 09, 202301:32:43
Office Killer & I'll Take You There (with Giselle Bonilla)
May 09, 202355:40
Romance & Sharp Stick
May 09, 202301:13:60
Sugar and Spice & The Bling Ring (with Jaime Bolker)
May 09, 202301:18:27
She-Devil & Bachelorette (with Kaycee Felton-Lui)

She-Devil & Bachelorette (with Kaycee Felton-Lui)

May 09, 202301:15:02
The Quick and the Dead & Last Man Standing (with Michael Chau)

The Quick and the Dead & Last Man Standing (with Michael Chau)

The American Western experienced a resurgence in the 90s after the critical and financial success of "Dances with Wolves" and "Unforgiven." At that time, Sam Raimi was more known for his groundbreaking work in horror, making him an unlikely choice to spearhead a Western revisionist action film with genre heavyweight Gene Hackman. But that was the only director star and producer Sharon Stone wanted for the project. Stone used her post-"Basic Instinct" power to not only bring Raimi on board, but to land Russell Crowe his first American role, and personally pay a baby-faced Leonardo Di Caprio's salary after the studio nixed the idea of him co-starring. The result? A box office and critical failure that began the decline of Stone's thriving career and left Raimi feeling like he was all to blame.

Today on the podcast, we're taking a slight detour from Vulgar Neo-Noirs to Vulgar Western Noirs with Sam Raimi's "The Quick and the Dead" and Walter Hill's Prohibition-era thriller "Last Man Standing," starring current podcast favorite, Bruce Willis. Writer and cartoonist Michael Chau joins us to discuss the gonzo vision of Raimi and why critics must have hated fun in 1995. We're also unpacking the sexism that Stone experienced at the height of her fame, the comeback she so badly deserves, Leo's hold on teenage girls in the 90s, Gene Hackman's pussy eating skills, why Bruce Willis isn't a hat guy, stinky Western dicks, Sisqo's Shakedown, and our new spinoff series "Whores Next Door."


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May 05, 202301:11:32
The Counselor (with Michael Aghajanian)

The Counselor (with Michael Aghajanian)

"For those that understand they're living the last days of the world, death acquires a different meaning. The extinction of all reality is a concept no resignation can encompass."
This week's guest, Michael Aghajanian, has described Ridley Scott's 2013 bomb "The Counselor" as a "flagship Rotten Rewind movie." This is, after all, a movie that opens with Michael Fassbender finger-fucking Penelope Cruz while telling her she has "the most luscious pussy in all of Christendom," and later features a now notorious scene where Cameron Diaz fucks the windshield of a Ferrari. Sadly, in 2013, critics and audiences weren't ready for 2 hours of beautiful actors reciting verbose monologues about the nature of violence and destiny in between scenes of graphic beheadings and Cameron Diaz fucking a car. Thankfully, it's been 9 years since Ridley Scott brought Cormac McCarthy's first produced original screenplay to the big screen and we, as a society, have accepted that we are living in the last days of the world.
So how does "The Counselor" stack up against podcast heavyweights like "In the Cut," "Bamboozled" and "Vanilla Sky?" Is this really one of the few Ridley Scott films that Tony Scott could have directed? Did Javier Bardem really base his look on mega producer Brian Grazer? Is Brad Pitt in the middle of a pussy-eating Renaissance? Could anyone have filled Cameron Diaz's shoes as a gold-toothed Machiavellian ice queen with tacky leopard tattoos? Is McCarthy's worldview too nihilistic or just right for our apocalyptic times? Does truth really have no temperature? Find out right now on America's most celebrated podcast.

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May 05, 202301:43:57
Sudden Impact & Impulse (with Jourdain Searles)

Sudden Impact & Impulse (with Jourdain Searles)

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Clint Eastwood and Sondra Locke made six films together over the course of a decade. They also had a tumultuous romantic partnership that culminated in a 19 month trial where Locke developed breast cancer. Locke, an Academy Award nominated actress, turned to directing in the late 80s, but was never able to achieve the notoriety she deserved because of her public falling out with Eastwood.
Today on the podcast, we're looking back on their final collaboration together, the fourth entry in the "Dirty Harry" franchise, "Sudden Impact," as well as Locke's sophomore feature behind the camera, "Impulse." Critic and writer Jourdain Searles returns to the show for an in-depth conversation about the tragedy surrounding Locke's career and her mostly unseen directorial efforts.
Why were we robbed of such a talented artist's future works? Was Sondra Locke the Polly Platt to Eastwood's Bogdanovich? How do reconcile an artist's off-screen behavior with their legendary career? What happens when Dirty Harry tackles rape culture? Why doesn't Theresa Russell work anymore? How the fuck do you pronounce George Dzundza's last name? Find out right now as we kick off our month-long descent into the seedy back alleys and underworlds of Vulgar Neo-Noir. 

May 05, 202301:04:27
Year of the Dragon & Black Rain
May 05, 202301:07:25
Snake Eyes & Femme Fatale (with Andrew Jacobson)
May 05, 202301:05:38