Everything's Relative with Eve Sturges
By Eve Sturges
Everything's Relative with Eve SturgesOct 16, 2020
A Call To Action: Moses Farrow and an Adoption Crisis (Emergency Episode)
Moses Farrow works as an an adoption trauma educator, adoption activist, and licensed marriage and family therapist. He explains to Eve how and why he wants to raise the alarm about crimes being committed against adopted children. *CONTENT WARNING*
Virtual Town Hall March 10: register at AdopteeMurders.eventbrite.com
Moses and Eve discuss the following cases:
For More In-depth Exploration and Education about the Adoption Industry, Moses provided the following links:
To contact Moses Farrow:
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Eve Sturges, Kalen Egan and What's Next... (SEASON 5 FINALE)
Original publish date: October 24, 2023.
Hi, Eve here. The goal of this episode was twofold: to finally tell my own DNA-discovery story, and to talk about season 6 and all the plans we have for 2024. I think I did an okay job, but I suspect you'll still be hungry for more details about my personal DNA-discovery. As Joy my editor put it, "the real details are for the book!" But I tried! I really did.
I want to clarify now: the podcast is NOT over. Season 5 is finished so I can enjoy the holidays and recalibrate how to use my resources wisely as we move forward. I really hope you will all come along with me as Everything's Relative evolves. Thank you, as always, for your support and friendship. xo Eve
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Peggie Arvidson: Adoptees At Work (LAST GUEST OF THE SEASON)
Peggie Arvidson, host of the podcast Adoptees At Work , talks about what adoption means to her identity, and what inspired this new project exploring the careers and dreams of adoptees.
Folllow Peggie's Substack: ZenCareer Nation
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Rob, a BCF: Honoring The Contract
Rob talks about what the past year has been like for him since discovering that the daughter he's raising, who is still a young child, isn't biologically related to him.
ORIGINAL PUBLISH DATE: 10/06/23
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Abby Hasberry: Adoptee, Birth Mother, Here For All Of It
Abby Hasberry of instagram account @D.E.A.R._Abby talks with Eve about coming into the adoption conversation with two penultimate experiences: she is a transracial domestic adoptee, and as a teenager she became a birth mother who relinquished a son.
ORIGINAL PUBLISH DATE: 10/09/23
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Amy Jo: He Was The Cutest Boy In The Room
The oldest of 4 girls, Amy Jo talks about the relief, heartbreak, and fury of her DNA Discovery.
original publish date: 09/22/23
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Jack Fronczak: Lost and Found (or, The Triple Disappearance of Paul Fronczak)
episode 100!!!!
Eve spends some time with Jack "Paul" Fronczak, who was the subject of CNN's recent documentary The Lost Sons, as well as the co-writer of The Foundling, and True Identity . TW: traumatic events, abuse
For more information about the case, and to contact Jack Fronczak: www.fronczakfiles.com
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Michelle: It Was As If My Life Suddenly Made Sense, Even Though I'd Never Thought It Didn't Make Sense
Michelle talks about her upscale Atlanta upbringing, her mother's anxiety, and what kind of truths unfolded before her when she took a mail-in DNA Test. (episode 99 of 100)
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Sheridan Anderson: Don't Go To The Hardware Store For Milk
Sheridan comes at her own DNA Discovery experience as a therapist who uses Dialectical Behavior Therapy with her clients. Sheridan is a licensed therapist in Minnesota.
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Jennie: In Life as a Richard Scary Illustration, Everyone Has A Path
Jennie talks about the secrets her family was hiding about donor conception. Subscribe and read Jennie's substack* about her journey here.
*A Substack is kind of like a blend of a newsletter and a blog!
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Rebecca Berg of No Strings Nutrition: Adoption Is In Her Body, Too.
Rebecca Berg of No Strings Nutrition in Los Angeles California, talks about how coming out of the adoption fog has informed her work as a licensed dietician.
Find Rebecca on instagram @no.strings.nutrition
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CORRECTIONS CORNER: Rebecca states in this episode that her biological mother did not complete a high school education. This is incorrect; Rebecca feels badly for the misstep, and reiterated to Eve that her bio-mom is a successful and driven woman.
Kristin: She's Italian, She's From Long Island. She Launches.
Kristin talks about how isolated she feels, even within the Misattributed Parental Event community because of the strife she's experienced from her DNA discovery.
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Meg Thomas: Emotional Expedition Podcast
Meg Thomas, host of Emotional Expedition Podcast, talks with Eve about learning she was a Donor Conceived Person, which has had a major impact on her personal fertility journey and her work as a fertility coach.
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Jill: When The Apple Falls Far From The Tree
Jill, AKA Margo Reilly, talks about how her mom was telling the truth all those years ago. Jill is the author of When The Apple Falls Far From The Tree, and is now working on a second memoir that focuses on her DNA Discovery. She works as an empowerment coach; find more about her at www.justbeingjill.com
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Rebecca Autumn Sansom: Reckoning With The Primal Wound
Rebecca Autumn Sansom, relinquished at birth for adoption, created the powerful documentary, Reckoning With The Primal Wound about reunion with her own birth mother, and an exploration of the seminal adoption book The Primal Wound, by Nancy Verrier.
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Caroline: The Man Who Ran Las Vegas (is her dad.)
Caroline talks with Eve about her DNA surprise, The Stardust Casino in Las Vegas, and reconciling her family narrative with scientific proof.
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Freya Lyon: A Rare Dual Citizen in the Donor Conception Community
Freya Lyon finds herself a rare bird: she is a Donor Conceived Person who has also used Donor Conception to create her own family. She is finding her voice as a "dual citizen," and offers insight from her own experiences through various channels in the community.
Follow her on instagram: @unicornDCP
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Ivan: A Birth Certificate Father's Story
Ivan is a longtime listener of ERWES, and is ready to tell his side of the story as a BCF (birth-certificate father) to an NPE.
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Lezlee Liljenberg: If You Only Knew
Lezlee Liljenberg is a firecracker storyteller in Dallas Texas who started investigating when her dad kept saying "If you only knew what your mother has done." She's blogged about her journey at iamlezlee.com
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Ancestors of Influence: Cairelle Crow, author of The Magic In Your Genes
Genealogist Cairelle Crow is the first person Eve has ever talked to who offered an alternative to the strictly scientific way of looking at our family tree. The Magic In Your Genes, Your Personal Path to Ancestor Work (Bringing Together the Science of DNA with the Timeless Power of Ritual and Spellcraft) is available now on Amazon.
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21 Siblings and Counting: Kiara Rae Schuh, author of Chosen Family; A Donor Conceived Woman's Journey to Redefining Family
Kiara Rae Schuh talks with Eve about about her DNA Discovery journey, learning that not everyone feels the same way about being donor conceived, and navigating a plethora of new relationship dynamics. For more information, visit https://www.kiararaeschuh.com , and to buy her book at Amazon, link here.
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David Berry, Fertility Fraud, and Dr. Morris Wortman of Rochester New York: You Are Definitely The Father
Note: Read more about Dr. Morris Wortman, and his unexpected death here.
Blogger and advocate David Berry talks about his DNA Discovery as a Donor Conceived Person, and the way he was thrust into the world of Fertility Fraud. Like Eve Wiley, David Berry is hoping for the passage of HR 451, a federal law designed to protect families from Fertility Fraud.
To contact your own congress member about issues affecting the MPE Community, including HR 451, visit this link here.
To learn more about David Berry, check out his blog! https://berrychronicles.com/
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The Double Life of an Adoptee: Emma Stevens, author of "The Gathering Place," and "The Fire Is Coming."
Emma Stevens discusses her identity as an adoptee, and her journey to find her relatives and the truth. To buy The Gathering Place, about Emma's adoption journey, follow this link here.
For a copy of A Fire Is Coming, click this link here.
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Holy Buckets! Fred Nicora, author of Forbidden Roots: A Memoir of Late-Discovery Adoption
Fred Nicora was just minding his own business at a family BBQ one minute, and experiencing the annihilation of his identity the next minute. His DNA discovery is what we call "LDA," Late-Discovery Adoption. His journey is one that many in the community of Misattributed Parentage will relate to. Go to frednicora.com to order Fred's book, Forbidden Roots: A Memoir of Late-Discovery Adoption.
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Jersey Girl: Annette Becklund, author of Ancestry Discoveries, What Happens Under The Sheets Doesn't Stay There
Annette Becklund and Eve explore her NPE DNA Discovery, how she came to write a book, and how it's affected her role as a licensed therapist. Buy Anette's Book here.
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Tonoccus McClain: I can only be Me.
Tonnocus McClain is still navigating the awkward and difficult world of meeting new family after his DNA test results confirmed what he already suspected: Kenny is not his biological father.
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Kellie: The Double Trouble of a Double NPE
Double-NPEs; the fastest growing subset of our fast growing community. DNA Discoveries that prove one non-parental event isn't enough.
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Eve Wiley: Donor 106, Fertility Fraud, and Dr. Kim McMorries
Eve Wiley has become a prolific advocate for fertility legislation ever since her DNA Discovery revealed she was born of her mom's fertility doctor's sperm, and NOT the specimen from whom they picked on a list from California Cryobank. See a news clip here.
Find your congressperson and write them an email about FERTILITY FRAUD LEGISLATION BILL HR 451.
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Junkyard Girl: Author Carlyn Montes De Oca
Carlyn Montes De Oca, author of Junkyard Girl, A Memoir of Ancestry, Family Secrets, and Second Chances talks about what it's like to have a DNA Discovery like her's, including realizations about late-discovery adoption and her own identity as a Mexican American woman.
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Linda: "Is Dad My Dad?" just blurted out of me!
Linda tells Eve about her DNA discovery and the ways our intuition speaks to us in mysterious ways; what does it mean when everyone in the family knew your DNA truth except for you?
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Steven: I knew I was "A Different."
Steven's DNA Discovery journey has been clunky and full of self-discovery, including a conversion to Judaism and a newfound understanding of who his mom and dad were as people and as parents.
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Nick Mullins: Someone To Watch Over Me
Nick's DNA Surprise was delivered by his mother without much fanfare despite the obviously wild information. He created a graphic novella about his journey, a must-have for anyone building their DNA-Discovery/Misattributed Parental Event library. To order a $5 copy of "Someone To Watch Over Me," visit http://nijomu.com/books/someone-to-watch-over-me/
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Pablo's Legacy: Season Four Finale :)
Jill started it all because she had always known she was donor conceived. She managed to wrangle 4 of her half-siblings AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER into a call with Eve. Please listen to this season finale; it's a really special one.
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TJ Raphael: BIOHACKED Podcast
T.J. Raphael, journalist and podcast producer, talks about the arduous, FIVE YEAR process it took to create "Biohacked: Family Secrets," the podcast series which chronicles and researches the donor conception industry.
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Author Chrysta Bilton: Normal Family - Truth, Love, and How I Met My 35 Siblings
Chrysta Bilton, author of Normal Family; On Truth, Love, and How I Met My 35 Siblings, talks with Eve about her journey to writing her memoir.
BOOK CLUB ZOOM PARTY WITH CHRYSTA OCTOBER 2ND 5PM 2022! for zoom invite, contact Eve!
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Like Sister, Like Brother: Don Anderson and His Sister Tammi
Don Anderson (of Missing Pieces: NPE Life Podcast) invited his new half-sister Tammi to tell their story.
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Jennifer: Unfinished Truths
A follow-up episode to Jennifer's DNA-discovery that she explores on "DNA Surprises With Alexis Hourselt Podcast." Eve and Jennifer have a lovely time developing a friendship and connecting about their NPE journeys. Jennifer is the host of "Unfinished Truths," a podcast that explores various perspectives of the DNA Discovery world.
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Cassandra Adams: Donor Conception Advocate
Cassandra was totally shocked to discover her Ashkenazi Judaic heritage, and that her parent's used a sperm donor. Now she helps other donor-conceived people process their own discoveries, and helps to educate parents on how to navigate the conversation with their own DC children.
Groups Cassandra talks about:
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Tiffany: U.S. Donor Conceived Council
Tiffany would have loved to know the truth of her medical history before all the extra colonoscopies. Now she's advocating for the rights of all donor-conceived people.
U.S. Donor Conceived Council: https://www.usdcc.org/
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Kathleen Wendy (Janet): My Friend with the Rainbow Hair
Kathleen talks about her LDA (Late-Discovery Adoptee) and updates us about what has happened since she told her story to Lily Wood on NPE Stories in early 2021. A "Cross-over" episode with Lily Wood, we suggest listening to her episode first if you want all the details of Kathleen's original tale!
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Fast Friends: Special Crossover Episode with Alexis Hourselt of "DNA Surprises Podcast"
Alexis asks the better questions. :)
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4th of July Weekend: Book Giveaway with Cory Goodrich!
Holiday Episode! If you're interested in winning a signed copy of both our books, Who Even Am I Anymore created by Eve Sturges, and Folksong by Cory Goodrich head over to our instagram accounts for more info!
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Great Scott! Jodi Klugman-Rabb, host of the podcast Sex, Lies & the Truth
Jodi tells Eve all about finding her place with Scottish Ancestors and what NOT to do as an NPE (hint: knock on the door.)
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Hey Daddy-O: Maryl & Culley
Maryll and Culley have been friends for over 20 years; they both were contacted by siblings at the same time, and found out things about their dads they never knew. They sit with Eve for Father's Day weekend to explore the experience of what it's like to be on the other side of an NPE-experience, when strangers reach out because they share the same dad.
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Melissa: You Are Being Credentialed For SOMETHING; the story of Peer Support at Donor Conceived Community
Melissa comes to Eve from Donor Conceived Community Support to talk about her own journey as a Donor Conceived Person and using her experience and skills to help others on a larger scale.
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Anonymous: Low Sperm Count is Not A No-Sperm Count
This episode is back to basics; a guest talks about the raw emotional journey of her NPE Discovery and how it's changed her life over the past year.
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By The Kelly Grace of G_D: DNAngels
Kelly Grace from DNAngels search group talks about how her NPE discovery led to an entire organization that helps people find the missing puzzle pieces of their family tree.
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Leeane R. Hay: I'm An NPE; Now What?!
Author of the book NPE: A Story Guide For Unexpected DNA Discoveries Leanne R. Hay talks about her own NPE surprise and how she decided to create the resource we've all been waiting for.
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Kate Jackson: I Always Never Knew My Mother: Severance Magazine's founder B.K. Jackson
Founder and editor of Severance Magazine Kate Jackson imagined a lot of things about the mother she never knew; what she discovered changed her whole understanding of the MPE experience. Now, her magazine is a treasured resource for the entire MPE community.
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Jill Copeland: J.D. Salinger, and Generational Trauma
Therapist Jill Copeland focuses on the way family experiences are passed down through generations, and searches for her father's family.
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