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Say What You Mean Podcast

By Say What You Mean Podcast
Two college friends chat about , pop culture, history, politics, sports, and whatever else they want. Enjoy! Hosts: Jake & Geoff
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EP178: Revenge of the Playlist
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss revenge through a long con, define friendship and the opportunity to elevate their palette through fine dining, and Jake reveals that he is the authority on salmon; it's a fish. They discuss canceling Columbus Day, the far-right in Spain, this history of Columbus, Mexico, Latin America, and colonization. The two then talk about the Rolling Stone's "Brown Sugar," static culture, and the inappropriate music of today, tomorrow, and the past. Enjoy!
October 15, 2021
EP177: The Internet Empire
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss reality shows, their favorite boy bands, quarantine sites & Native Americans, and Jake's photography. They then discuss the Facebook whistleblower, governing the internet and Star Wars. Enjoy!
October 7, 2021
EP176: Queso, Now What?
On this episode, Jake and Geoff do a Mental Health Check-In, discuss positive mindsets, a bit o’ sports and memories, and their hot takes on seasons & weather. They then discuss social media spaces, Facebook as an autocracy, and the senate Afghanistan hearings and the Biden legacy.
October 1, 2021
EP175: Shelf Space
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss gatekeeping, books at Barnes and Noble's, Geoff had a birthday, and the two look critically at Biden's foreign policies. Enjoy!
September 24, 2021
EP174: The Brotherhood?
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss their new favorite shows, reality shows and celebrities, a proud boy says nothing, Geoff's reading a book, fixed mindsets in society, divisiveness in American society, and political stunts that undermine the structures of government and military. Enjoy!
September 17, 2021
To The Republic: Afghanistan
Just trying to make sense of a bad situation. 
September 10, 2021
EP146: All The Time, Man
Rants in our pants! Spirit animals, Afghanistan, Covid-19, vaccines, freedoms & liberties. This episode feels like those days we spent in the cafeteria ranting, dissecting, and challenging norms, opinions, and politics. Enjoy!
September 2, 2021
EP145: King, Queen, Checkmate
On this episode, Jake and Geoff recap Jake's wedding! From the prep, photography, memories, chaos, and fun, listen as these two reminisce about their weekend at the coast. They then take a hard look at the Afghanistan situation, it's history, and suggest their thoughts on where the buck really stops. Enjoy!
August 26, 2021
To The Republic: History Education in America
Jake is joined by Dr. Donna Sinclair to discuss Critical Race Theory and the history of Social Studies/History education in the United States.  Enjoy!
August 20, 2021
EP144: The Starting Line
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Jake's bachelor party, the gurgles, a trip to Washington D.C., camping at Silver Falls, Adoption Day, and Geoff encounters a Karen in the wild. Enjoy!
August 12, 2021
EP143: Listen To Your Future
While Jake is away, we have a very special guest co-host. On this episode, Geoff is joined by his incredible niece Alix. Listen as they discuss their recent music playlists, what music means to them, women's sports, the U.S. Women's soccer team, the Portland Thorns, the fight for equal pay and the documentary "LFG" on HBOMax. The two then discuss death, reacting appropriately to other's loss, and fun questions to provoke discussion. Enjoy!
August 5, 2021
EP142: After Midnight
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss ammunition, ZZ Top, Slipknot, and gush over Blink 182. They discuss masks, COVID 19, requiring vaccinations, mandates, the Olympics, patriotism, and Simone Biles. Enjoy!
July 30, 2021
EP141: Smelly Kids
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss wedding season, Space Jam, James Bond update, Jake gets blocked, smelly kids, January 6th, law breaking citizens, accountability and climate change. Enjoy!
July 23, 2021
TTR: Is This Democratic?
Jake and Matt examine the Senate Filibuster, Electoral College, and equal representation in the U.S. Senate to answer the question: are these processes inline with democratic principles? They then offer some solutions on how to fix them to break the hyper partisanship within U.S. politics. 
July 16, 2021
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the Big Brother premiere, Texas sucks, parenting better, uncontrollable insecurities, James Bond films, Harry Potter films, and Jake quizzes Geoff on Pop Punk! Enjoy!
July 9, 2021
EP139: Take 2 & Call Me In The Morning
On this episode, the boys bring the rants! Geoff and Jake discuss how organizations handle controversy, the #MeToo movement and sexual assault allegations, documentary films, personal insights on social pressures, personal health, and addressing all the feels. Geoff is anti-government again and he and Jake discuss the possibility of making changes in current political practices. Enjoy!
July 1, 2021
To The Republic: Guns in America
The infamous episode about guns and gun control. The one were Jake got a nasty email from an angry listener. Enjoy!
June 25, 2021
EP138: Hot Cops
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Hot Cops, Minecraft, Geoff's first Father's Day plans, the dumbest things they ever got in trouble for at school, Jake's sick puka shells, and Geoff rants about TikTok again. The two then discuss the G7 summit, world powers and domestic polarization, and a collective approach to oppose U.S. adversaries. Enjoy!
June 18, 2021
EP137: Press One For English
On this episode, Geoff and Jake lament the Portland Trailblazers and the end of their season, discuss President Biden and the G7 summit, criticize the administrations response to immigration and public health, mask wearing, and COVID-19. They then discuss the power of media, social media, and watching horror films. Enjoy!
June 10, 2021
EP136: Wedding Day Coup
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Fauci's emails, very different campers, Jake The Best Boy, provocateurs, a wedding day coup, and their favorite game shows of all time! Enjoy! 
June 3, 2021
EP135: My Name Is...
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss hot Disney princes, live-action remakes, the scary influence of China on actors and film, Star Wars, and Portland, OR. The two get into a heated debate local namesakes and discuss the Arizona audit and Big Lie. Enjoy!
May 27, 2021
EP134: Stuck In The Middle With You
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss NBA Basketball and players, how far audiences are expected to suspend reality when watching a movie/show about a specific time period, stumble through identity with the intent to understand, asymmetry in society and Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z's. Enjoy!
May 20, 2021
EP133: Book Burners
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss critical race theory in schools, history, education, Liz Cheney v. Party of Trump, and the gasoline shortage. Jake and Geoff are reduced to nothing but their race in an email responding to their show. Enjoy!
May 13, 2021
EP132: I Told You So, AGAIN
On this episode, Jake and Geoff celebrate graduating three years ago, and discuss Jake refereeing in his football league, Geoff interacting with the infected, Arrested Development’s pure genius, Jake saw a UFO, Caitlyn for California, Vancouver’s inspirational mayor and Facebook’s governmental structure. Enjoy!
May 6, 2021
EP131: The Masked Men
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss true crime stories, debate if aliens exist, bash on lazy protagonists, stop and smell the flowers, call out Karen Carlson, and discuss Biden's first address to Congress. Enjoy!
April 30, 2021
EP130: Shiny Happy People
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss dad badges, How I Met Your Father, Covid-19 vaccines and playlists, Demi Lovato's war on frozen yogurt, and George Floyd's murderer's guilty verdict. They also discuss cancel culture, safe spaces, and why Geoff hates bowling! Enjoy!
April 22, 2021
EP129: Corky's Math Is Hard
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss NBA news and celebrate the career of #12, their summer time plans, Thor Ragnarok's parenting challenges, a dog battle, replacement theory and an all NEW Counter Culture! Enjoy!
April 16, 2021
EP128: Gimme All Your Coke & Money
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss hiking and risking it all, hoping we never need asylum, Georgian voting laws, secret sneaky Cokes, Biden addressing gun legislation, executive orders, and hypocrisy in the USA! Enjoy!
April 9, 2021
EP127: What A Buncha Suckers
This is no April fools prank! Jake is dramatic again and he gets mugged for gifts! Geoff and Jake then discuss Pokemon & Lego, New music and discoveries, celebrity news, NBA Players, Barstool, and actors, Travis Barker and the Kardashians, QAnon, Senator Matt Gaetz, migration, immigration, and privilege, and racial injustices. Again, not an April fools prank! Enjoy!
April 2, 2021
EP126: License And Registration, Please.
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the NBA trade deadline, life updates, the egoist in all classrooms, gun legislation and solution ideas, the U.S. migration surge, and the problematic small future. Enjoy!
March 25, 2021
To The Republic: What is Conservativism?
Jake, the show's resident conservative, attempts to define what conservatism is and why Trump and his ilk aren't conservative. All by himself... good luck. 
March 19, 2021
EP125: Slow Start To Race
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss cancel culture, Dr. Suess and Disney, NBA player Meyers Leonard using an ethnic slur while live streaming, and Among Us and trolls. Finally, the two discuss race, ethnicity, identity, and how knowing history can impact the words we use. Enjoy!
March 11, 2021
To The Republic: Presidents and National Crises
In this installment of To The Republic, Jake and Geoff examine the responses of five former US Presidents to particular national crisis that occurred during their time in power. Specifically we look at the Presidents George Washington's response to the Whisky Rebellion; James Buchanan's response to state secession and the issue of slavery ; Herbert Hoover's response to the stock market crash and banking crisis in 1929; Franklin Roosevelt's response to the Dust Bowl; and George W. Bush's response to the September 11th Terror Attacks. Enjoy!
March 4, 2021
EP124: Now You're Stuck With Him
On this episode, Jake blames department stores, Geoff has head trauma, there are sneaky announcements, and they both discuss Texas Ted and regulations, more Hitler/Nazi history, and we all find out who the hipster is. Enjoy!
February 26, 2021
EP123: RIP Phil A. Buster?
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the Rabbit Tragedy, Sikh's and Braceros, the death of Rush Limbaugh, the snow storms of 2021, Trump's acquittal, and The Filibuster. Enjoy!
February 18, 2021
EP122: Off With Their Heads!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff talk about all of the fun hikes they've been on, testing fate thrice & TikTok missed connections, Overwatch, Impeachment trial, the insurrection and what it all means. Geoff shares a bit about racism in a 60's Disney film and Jake's revolutionaries want your heads. Enjoy!
February 12, 2021
EP121: Then They Came For Me
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss school for kids during the pandemic, Jake rebelling for the photograph, Reddit and Gamestop stocks, Marjorie Taylor Greene, addressing extremism in politics and government, and Jake shares his research into Nazis and the SS. Enjoy!
February 4, 2021
EP120: Born A Gamblin' Man
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss one week of fatherhood, they celebrate good boys, climate change and the responsibility of the government to provide jobs, the same ol' Republicans, it's all about the money, and Jake picks the winners! Enjoy!
January 29, 2021
EP119: What's In That Note?!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff chat about the presidential inauguration, updated podcast space, Geoff's gonna be a dad, the Bernie memes, NBA basketball, chicken sandwiches and seeing parallels in history! Stay tuned for a new edition of Counter Culture, too! Enjoy!
January 22, 2021
EP118: Somebody Censored
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the type of guy Ted Cruz is, impeachment, allegations Democrats are making, censorship, big tech, and the free market. Is Bernie a populist? Is this all a violation of the first amendment!? Find out now! Enjoy!
January 14, 2021
EP117: I Got As Far As Capitol Hill
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss their Sunday hike, Geoff's new love for HBO Max, the riots at the U.S. capitol, and the future of government and politics in this country. There is another huge announcement made that catches the guy's off guard! Enjoy!
January 7, 2021
EP116: We Will Call This Lovely
HAPPY NEW YEAR! On this episode, Jake and Geoff talk basketball, music, movies, sandwiches, and politics! They recap 2020 with the best, the worst, and the most ridiculous! And, as promised, Geoff makes a huge announcement! Thanks for hanging with us through this one. We can't wait to see what 2021 brings us. New year, new us? haha
January 1, 2021
EP115: So This Is Christmas!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Covid-19 coming to close to home, they lament the Portland Trailblazers, celebrate the holiday season, and settle some of the classic Christmas debates! Get to know your hosts more on this fun filled episode. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Stay safe everyone!
December 24, 2020
To The Republic: Trump's Foreign Policy in Review
On this episode, Jake and Matt discuss the successes, failures, and missteps of President Trump's foreign policy now that his administration will be leaving power. Enjoy!
December 18, 2020
EP114: What's Your Sign?
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are Joined by Carter again! The three discuss the NFL, NBA, COVID-19 Vaccines, astrology, cults, and how being terrible can get you rich...but don't do that. Enjoy!
December 10, 2020
EP113: Two Turtle Doves
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss bad NFL teams, the Portland Trail Blazers (of course), and Trump's 46 minute Most Important Speech Ever. They then discuss Jake's questionable fandom of Home Alone (again) and Harry Potter, they talk the "Extended" DC Universe, Warner Bros. studio, and Geoff's new obsession! Enjoy!
December 4, 2020
EP112: 'Bout the Jim's and Joe's
Happy Thanksgiving! We are so thankful for all of you who have been with us for these past two years and every new comer! On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Geoff's trip to Texas, Black Friday and working retail, Social Media companies transferring accounts to President-Elect Joe Biden on January 20th and the roles, responsibility, and relationship these platforms play amongst citizens, with the government, and with each other. The end with some light-hearted Rip City talk, the moves the Trail Blazers have made, and who is the best in the West. Enjoy!
November 27, 2020
To The Republic: Causes of the US Civil War
On this episode, Jake and Matt discuss the lead up to the US Civil War. This analyze the Missouri Compromise, the Texas war for independence, Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, and growing factionalism within the US. They then make parallels between the run up to the Civil War with what is occurring today in this country. They then attempt to answer the questions: When did the Civil War become likely? and when did the Civil War become inevitable. (Hint: it is much earlier than you think!).
November 20, 2020
EP111: We've Got It Goin' On
On this episode, Geoff, Cj, and Jake discuss the illusive "they," voter fraud and challenges, and how historians and the future will look back on 2020. Will Geoff may be safe in a wager he's made? How will President-Elect Joe Biden lead as the next president of the United States? What's in a mandate? Is it a movie night with your favorite hosts? Finally, the guys dive into some music to explore how they've been feeling this week with a new edition of They Said It Best. Enjoy! 
November 12, 2020
EP110: Chances
On this episode Geoff, Jake and CJ anxiously wait for final results in the 2020 presidential election. They explore historic voter turnout, key differences in how states collect and process votes, and factors that appear to have motivated presidential votes across the country.
November 6, 2020
EP109: I'll Never Break Your Heart
On this episode, Geoff, Jake, and CJ talk NFL, puppies, social media, gate-keeping and advertising. They then discuss Giuliani, Borat, Election polls, and dive into a nationalism rabbit hole. VOTE!
October 29, 2020
EP108: I Want It That Way
CJ's back! On this episode Jake, Geoff, and CJ discuss reality TV shows, Geoff's tired of "shoot em ups," and if they're the type of people complain about service and why. They then discuss NBA marketing decisions, the relationship between morals and ethics in legislation, what influences voters and decision making, and analyze swing states' impact on candidates, a campaign, and the debate tonight. Enjoy!
October 22, 2020
EP107: Paths To Victory, Maybe.
On this episode, Jake and Geoff preview the upcoming election by diving deep into the electoral college and state polling numbers. They talk about the path to victory for both candidates and the likely hood that each have of winning. They then talk about NBA basketball and political hypocrisy and why it's important to vote no matter what state you live in! Enjoy!
October 15, 2020
EP106: Impostor Among Us
On this episode, Jake and Geoff wonder if Trump has given up, they discuss Jake’s photography adventures, Geoff’s new records, and a new found love for the game Among Us. They then discuss the Vice Presidential debate, The Fly, and have a fun edition of “They Said It Best.” Enjoy!
October 8, 2020
EP105: Freedom, Money, and Fish
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by Jake's sister, Sarah. The three discuss the first 2020 Presidential Debate, the outward display and representation of politicians among constituents, Home Alone 2, and a fun list of songs and music that represent a top 30 list. Enjoy!
October 1, 2020
EP104: Bridge of the Dogs
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss mental health, Geoff's 34th birthday, the people still buying up all the ammunition, and Trump's comments on the peaceful transition of power. Geoff opens his gift from Jake and then the two discuss the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Supreme Court, and the impact of replacing the seat in the court. Enjoy!
September 24, 2020
EP103: Where There's Smoke, There's Fire
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss adjusting to new normals, video games, their stress relievers and Geoff makes an announcement. Jake hosts a short segment of Counter Culture and the two analyze an article, "10 Ways Trump Is Becoming A Dictator." Enjoy!
September 17, 2020
EP102: World's On Fire
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the Wild West in flames, conspiracies going too far, athletes using their platforms, permitting hypocrisy when it’s for your cause and merchandising politicians. Enjoy!
September 11, 2020
To The Republic: The Federalists
In this episode of To the Republic, Jake and Geoff discuss the history of the relationship between states and the federal government in America. They explore the different theories that have underpinned the changes in how this relationship plays out. Finally, the hosts debate about how federalism is conceptualized in the modern-era and beyond. Enjoy!
September 3, 2020
EP101: Burst Your Bubble
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss Geoff's best weekend, Jake is a corn hole legend, In-N-Out Burger, and conservatives for Biden. The two discuss how sports and their players reflect the cultural divide in the United States, the Republican National Convention, and what it means to be a conservative. Plus! A new edition of Counter Culture! Enjoy!
August 27, 2020
EP100: The Future Is 13
A huge thank you to everyone who has supported this show, shared an episode with a friend, and has been our guest through these first 100 episodes. - On this episode Geoff and Jake are joined by Geoff's 13 year old niece, Alix. The three discuss camping, Lego, and Big Brother. Alix recently read Animal Farm so the three discuss the book and the role of government, changes they would like to see, and what it means to be an American. Enjoy!
August 20, 2020
Episode 99: Hellcat, Yo!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss dinner at the Jochim's, Jake's live discussion with Dr. Donna Sinclair, Washington State's voter turn out, the selection of Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's running mate, QAnon, and a new edition of Counter Culture. Enjoy!
August 13, 2020
Episode 98: Past Carter's Bedtime
On this episode, Geoff and Jake are joined by their friend Carter. The three discuss moving, sports bubbles (NBA, MLS, NHL, and more!), reality tv shows, games shows, cancelling Ellen, and the explosion in Beirut. We take some time to get to know Carter and the three then have a theoretical discussion regarding humanity, society, government, and the world. Enjoy!
August 7, 2020
Episode 97: Grandpa Quotes
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Jake's photography project, managing anxiety and expectations, the NBA bubble, and finding grace for yourself. They also have two songs for the week on They Said It Best, Geoff rants about doing something, and as always they say what they mean. Enjoy!
July 30, 2020
Episode 96: On The Bright Side
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss how COVID-19 is handled and changed the world internationally, social issues in sports around the world, federal agents policing Portland, OR, and who are we demanding for change from if we ask everyone to resign? This episode features a new installment of They Said It Best and positivity.  Oh! Wear a mask & vote. Enjoy!
July 23, 2020
Episode 95: Something About A Window
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss controlled narratives, celebrating service, and The Overton Window. Geoff talks about the passing of his pup and the two discuss music during another segment of They Said It Best. Enjoy!
July 16, 2020
To The Republic: Voter Suppression in the United States from Reconstruction to Present Day
In this Episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the history of voter suppression in the United States. They talk about how African-American voters were effected by Jim Crow legislation after Reconstruction ended in 1877. They then identify and analyze how modern voter suppression tactics manifest in voting rules after the passing of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. These tactics include: voter ID laws, voter purges and gerrymandering. Always remember to vote and stay informed!
July 9, 2020
Episode 94: Glass Case of Emotions
On this episode, Geoff and Jake chat about Independence Day, Kevin Collabro and the Portland Trailblazers, WNBA, and college basketball. They chat about cancelling Barstool Sports, social movements, and a new segment of Counter Culture and They Said It Best. Enjoy!
July 3, 2020
Episode 93: They Said It Best
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss Star Wars, cultural connection, addressing personal hypocrisy, protests, and wearing masks. The two introduce two new segments and address Zoomers, Moomers, and Boomers. Enjoy!
June 25, 2020
Episode 92: The Pigs Become Humans
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Jake’s photography project, an update on Geoff’s dog, racism and capitalism, and the recent Supreme Court rulings and the importance of checks and balances in an American government. Enjoy!
June 18, 2020
Episode 91: A Bag of Tricks
On this episode, Geoff and Jake talk about changing thought processes, Daddy Days, Geoff falling apart last week, history, having grace, and ends justifying means. Jake brings back Counter Culture! Enjoy!
June 11, 2020
Episode 90: In Union There Is Strength
On this episode, Geoff exposes his Jedi mind tricks, Jake is shamed for his french fry opinion, Geoff rambles on and on, and Jake is articulate. This week has been hard but we know that together we can change the world. We stand by our fellow Americans and the fight for equality for all people. Thank you for listening.
June 5, 2020
Episode 89: Let It All Out
On this episode, Jake returns from his venture and discusses all the highs and lows. Geoff shares some news! The two discuss changing measure, spirituality, being built for this. They also discuss the Republican Party and RINO’s, mask requirements, business decisions, and choosing to stand for something only when it suites you. Enjoy!
May 29, 2020
Episode 88: Penny For Your Thoughts
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss managing mental health, conspiracy theories, open businesses, Jake’s day at Safeway, pressured haircuts, Trump’s Economic Revival Industry groups, Obamagate, and cognitive dissonance. Enjoy!
May 21, 2020
To The Republic: International Relations 101
In this episode of To The Republic, Jake and Matt discuss the basics conceptual framework and history of international relations and political thought more generally. They then break down the three main schools of thought within International Relations Theory: Realism, Liberalism, and Constructivism. Jake and Matt then use those schools of thought to explain why "peace must be more than the absence of war."
May 14, 2020
Episode 87: Wheezing Deaf Legends
On this week's episode, Jake, Geoff, and CJ share their four non-skippable albums of all time! Listen as they venture through twelve picks, rag on one another and celebrate the discovery of new music! Enjoy!
May 8, 2020
Episode 86: I Told You So
On this episode, Jake, Geoff and CJ throw it all out the window! The guys discuss favorite tv shows, marketing a dog, Michael Jordan and The Last Dance, NBA basketball, music tastes, and UFOs. They discuss the health industry and some of CJ’s experiences, but mostly the guy’s just have fun! Enjoy!
May 1, 2020
Episode 85: Making Lemonade
On this episode, CJ is back and joins Jake and Geoff as they discuss mental health, career moves, infertility, and friendship. They also analyze the U.S. influence historically and today during a global crisis, how that influence has changed, and what nations are doing to endure COVID-19. They also discuss leadership at all levels and how America may be struggling with its identity. Stay safe & enjoy!
April 23, 2020
Episode 84: Third Time's A Charm
On this episode Jake and Geoff are joined by their friend, CJ. The three talk about CJ's life in quarantine, life as essential workers, freedoms and restrictions, coordination and cooperation, and the role of government through this crisis. Enjoy!
April 16, 2020
Episode 83: Quantified Emotions
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the newspaper collection, Harry Potter books & movies, "over it" moments with COVID19, presidential campaigns, and government systems & responses to the pandemic. Enjoy!
April 10, 2020
To The Republic: Global Governance- International Organizations
On this Episode, Jake is accompanied by Matt to discuss international organizations; what they are, how they work, and where they came from. Jake and Matt describe the United Nations, World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund, World Bank Group, NATO, and others!
April 2, 2020
Episode 82: Policing Distance
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss current music they're listening to, fancy pants, changes in social norms, MAGA Geoff, and the electability of Donald Trump in a pandemic and economic crisis. Enjoy!
March 26, 2020
Episode 81: Tragedy of the Commons
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the global impact of the coronavirus, the roles and responsibility of the governments, and how it has impacted society. Jake shares stories from the gun counter in a segment of Counter Culture and the two discuss the Democratic primaries, the NFL, playing sports, and Call of Duty. Enjoy!
March 19, 2020
Episode 80: Open Your Eyes
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Geoff's lucid dreams, teaching a class on podcasting, and the Masked Singer. Jake saw JoJo Rabbit and Joker and the coronavirus is canceling everything. Enjoy!
March 13, 2020
To The Republic: Socialism vs. Capitalism
Geoff and Jake discuss the differences between the four main political-economic structures: Capitalism, Socialism, Social-Democracy, and Mercantilism.
March 6, 2020
Episode 79: Based On Actual Events
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Geoff protesting Disneyland, Utopias, Animal Farm, learning a new country, voting primaries, life without Facebook, and how films and TV reflect history. Enjoy!
February 28, 2020
Episode 78: ANUSTART
On this episode, Geoff is sick and grouchy and Jake is thinking about a new start. The two discuss Marshawn Lynch, NBA All-Star Weekend, the Democratic debates, capitalism, the coronavirus, accepting corruption, and why Trump will win a second term. Enjoy!
February 21, 2020
Episode 77: Oculus Reparo
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss nostalgia, sunbathing, failing to follow instructions, quitting Facebook, the federal loan forgiveness program, Rip City and noggin' talk. Jake gets new glasses and drops the mic a ton, figuratively. Enjoy!
February 14, 2020
Episode 76: A Millenial Podcast
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the impeachment acquittal, the Super Bowl, halftime show, work, Disney+, Geoff's interest in monkeys, and Mike Bloomberg. Enjoy!
February 6, 2020
Episode 75: Eight Twenty-Four Ten
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined, once again, by their friend CJ. The three discuss the tragic passing of Kobe and Gigi Bryant and those involved in the helicopter crash, the impact it has had on the world, them, and basketball. Geoff gives an update on his past week. They then discuss Trump’s Middle East peace plan, its implications and the role of the United States globally. Enjoy!
January 30, 2020
Episode 74: Beat The Baddie
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Geoff getting a gun, who can beat the baddie, Impeachment Trials, decisions making, influences, a fart joke, anxiety, and basketball. Enjoy!
January 24, 2020
Episode 73: Pants On Fire
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss movies and Joker, NBA basketball and the Portland Trailblazers, and LIES! Is lying okay? What is ethical? Find us on Instagram and share your thoughts! Enjoy!
January 16, 2020
Episode 72: Seem Bold, Do Nothing
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss how to be successful by doing nothing, Geoff's career as a clown, and corporate America. The two then discuss tensions with Iran, the United States, and the broader implications. Enjoy!
January 10, 2020
Episode 71: You're So Vague
Happy New Year! On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss their holidays, resolutions, and vague-booking. A Counter Culture segment brings the most intense story to the show and the guy's discuss state succession. Enjoy!
January 2, 2020
To The Republic: Power Transition in the 21st Century?
Will the U.S. lose its seat as the sole world super power? Jake and Matt discuss this and many other topics surrounding the rise of China as a major world player on the international stage in this hard-hitting To The Republic Episode!
December 27, 2019
Episode 70: Just Peachy
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by their friend and co-host of Knuckle Draggers Podcast, Dimitri. They discuss Jake's new whip, tattoos, holding grudges, and the President being impeached. They also discuss representation. Enjoy!
December 19, 2019
Episode 69: We Politely Decline
On this episode, Geoff has a death scare, Jake’s truck dies, work is weird, and nobody makes sense anymore. PLUS! The guy’s publicly decline a politicians endorsement. Enjoy!
December 12, 2019
Episode 68: So Happy Together
Reunited and it feels so good! On this week’s episode, Jake and Geoff catch up on Thanksgiving, family traditions, potatoes, a near death experience, Disney+, impeachment hearings and one local politician. Enjoy!
December 6, 2019
To The Republic: Syria and US Foreign Policy
In this special edition of To The Republic, Jake is joined by friend of the show, Matt Reeves. They discuss the conflict in Syria, the history of the country, and what the future may hold for the people in that sub-region. We hope you enjoy. Please like, share, and subscribe.
November 28, 2019
Episode 67: I Am The Gatekeeper
On this week's episode, Jake and Geoff discuss originality vs. familiarity, if 30 is dreadful, and making lifestyle changes. They also discuss State Department Official Mina Chang and a recent article from The Atlantic. Enjoy!
November 22, 2019
Episode 66: He Who Must Not Be Named
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss and doing things solo, new movies and Disney+. They have a passionate sandwich discussion, debate the benefits of college, and chat about the impeachment hearings. Plus! A Counter Culture update! Enjoy!
November 15, 2019
Episode 65: And Justice For All
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss new movies and shows, generational differences, science, climate, and public vs. private authority. This week’s edition of Counter Culture introduces Iron Eyes Justice Jake. Enjoy!
November 7, 2019
Episode 64: Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss Edward Snowden, political overreach, fear as a motivator, and government responsibility. They also discuss the decision made by Twitter's Jack Dorsey and the consequences of foreign governments influencing American politics. Enjoy!
October 31, 2019
Episode 63: Genie In A Bottle
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Sports Jake being in full effect, they tease a future episode, isolating Colorado, and Impeachment Inquiry standards and process. They question whether we're too blind to our history or too far removed and their popular segment Counter Culture is back again!
October 25, 2019
Episode 62: Stretch It Out
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the Lebron James controversy, the democratic debates, and the international implications of the conflicts in Syria/Turkey. Enjoy!
October 17, 2019
Episode 61: China's So Hot Right Now
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the NBA, China, and other implications. They also discuss not saying what you mean and being shams! They talk about liberalism and feeling lost in a political world. Jake brings Geoff gifts! Enjoy!
October 11, 2019
To The Republic: Democratic Structures
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss democracy and republics, their many forms, and pros and cons. Enjoy!
October 3, 2019
Episode 60: But It's Grey...
On this episode, Jake shares a lifetime achievement, Geoff gets served at GameStop, and the two of them discuss the impeachment inquiry. Enjoy!
September 26, 2019
Episode 59: This Didn't Work
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Trump Toys, states' rights, and Counter Culture is back! Enjoy!
September 19, 2019
Episode 58: SWYM
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the importance of defining terms, party contradictions, and the differences between a republic and democracy. Enjoy!
September 12, 2019
To The Republic: Supreme Court
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss influential Supreme Court cases.
September 5, 2019
Episode 57: Thunder Buddies
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Jake's trip to Washington DC, a new citizenship policy, legalizing marijuana on a federal level, Motel 6 & ICE, Brexit, and why Jacob seems so short. Enjoy!
August 29, 2019
Episode 56: Just The Two of Us, You & I
On this episode, Geoff and Jake get to catch up, chat about starting grad school, and chat about pets & vets. The two then discuss bias media/news, reproductive health care, gun culture, immigration raids, and Jake gets heated when people refuse to have a dialog. Enjoy!
August 23, 2019
Episode 55: Dear Diary, It's CJ.
It happened! Self-proclaimed super fan, CJ, has finally joined Jake and Geoff! On this episode, CJ shares his experience as an intern with the Washington State Senate. CJ provides excellent insight into how necessary and intricate the local governments can be and how there are avenues to participate, learn, and do our part. The three discuss media, journalism, and the role of comedy in news. Also, Jake and CJ had matching outfits. Enjoy!
August 16, 2019
To The Republic: Environmental Policy
On this episode, Jake sits down with special guests Dr. Donna Sinclair and John Oberg to discuss how they first became aware of environmental issues. They discuss the dust bowl and how U.S. policy helped create the problem, exasperated the issue further during the crisis, and then played an instrumental role in correcting it. The three specifically highlight some of the stories and information in the book “The Worst Hard Time” by Timothy Egan. Dr. Sinclair then goes into the specific policies that the U.S. federal government used to combat the effects of the great depression. In the last segment, the three discuss the future of environmental policy, what role the U.S. is playing globally on this issue, what different international organizations are doing to address climate change, and the challenges that environment advocates face going forward at the global level. Enjoy!
August 9, 2019
Episode 54: Bumps, Squeaks, and Helicopters
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by their friend and professor Dr. Donna Sinclair. Donna updates the guys on all of the wonderful work she's doing all over Clark County, WA. The three discuss their most important issues in the 2020 election, qualitative and quantitative data, anthropology, and how challenging politics and legislation can and sometimes should be. Enjoy!
August 1, 2019
Episode 53: Humbled In A Bush
On this week's episode, Jake and Geoff wonder "what's in a name?" and discuss how humbling life can be sometimes. Geoff talks about his weekend and his 10th Annual Man Trip at Billy Chinook. The two then discuss political fandom, populism, international politics and China's intentions. Enjoy!
July 25, 2019
Episode 52 - Catch Up & Mustard
On this anniversary special, Geoff and Jake reflect on the past year and the fifty-two episode journey of the podcast. They discuss their highs, their lows, their accomplishments, and struggles. They follow that up with a random question game and then discuss racism in politics. Thank you all for your constant support. Thank you and welcome to the new listeners. Please, enjoy!
July 18, 2019
Episode 51: Know What You Own
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss new listeners and feedback, learning French, vacations in nature, pet peeves, and this scripted life. Another edition of Counter Culture has Jake asking for advice and the guys have received their first voicemail! Finally, the two discuss court rulings on the First Amendment in Social Media spaces and defining Conservatism today.
July 11, 2019
Episode 50: Fifty Nifty
On this episode, Geoff and Jake recap their KXRW radio event, discuss the chaos of NBA free agency, and the tradition of champions visiting the White House. They then discuss "staying in your lane," hypocrisy, and someone's complete misunderstanding of liberalism.
July 4, 2019
Episode 49: Knock, Knock.
On this episode, Jake has to write a paper again and Geoff celebrates family weddings and festivities. Geoff finally finished Chernobyl and the two discuss the show. Jake and Geoff then explore how “Republicans Don’t Understand Democrats—And Democrats Don’t Understand Republicans.” Enjoy!
June 27, 2019
Episode 48: Why Is It So Sandy?!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss their new roles in their jobs and navigating through new responsibilities and incomprehensible personalities. Geoff rescinds his comments about America's favorite golden and the two discuss "The Cough." AND! Jake hosts another edition of Counter Culture. Enjoy!
June 20, 2019
Episode 47: Actions Speak Louder Than Words
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss some issues in the healthcare system and the lack of providing women with the best care. They discuss The Handmaid's Tale and getting to a post-apocalyptic world, Chernobyl and current parallels, Geoff's current readings, and contentions in Ireland. Enjoy!
June 13, 2019
To The Republic: The United States Census
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the United States' census. They take a look at it's history, purpose, and how the information is used. Jake and Geoff then explore some of the historical problems, costs, and address the issue of including a citizenship status question on the 2020 Census. Enjoy!
June 6, 2019
Episode 46: Life Is Golden
On this episode, Geoff and Jake recap the Western Conference Finals and recap the Portland Trail Blazers season for their final Rip City Segment for a while. They then shift to discussing international relations, the World Trade Organization, and rising tensions and politics surrounding the U.S. and Iran. Enjoy!
May 30, 2019
Episode 45: The 21 Year Grudge
On this episode, Jake and Geoff have a spoiler free discussion about the end of Game of Thrones. They also discuss other TV shows and other series endings. This episode features another great edition of Counter Culture and the guys discuss the Department of Education and private vs. public education. Enjoy!
May 23, 2019
Episode 44: A Cow's Opinion
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the Portland Trail Blazers making the Western Conference Finals, birds, snakes, the movie Vice, the Bush Administration, international political history and the current U.S. tariffs. Enjoy!
May 16, 2019
Episode 43: Bold As Brass
On this special episode, Jake and Geoff recorded outside on the back porch at Geoff's house. The two discuss Master's programs and navigating through them, birds (of course), the documentary The Unknown Known, naming pets, and Jake's social life centered around dogs. Enjoy!
May 9, 2019
Episode 42: Political Pigs
On this episode, Geoff and Jake catch up on the Trail Blazers, Attorney General Barr, using different media to broaden a perspective, and how we sometimes let sources dictate our perception. Geoff tells Jake about his new hobby and Jake updates us on his move and his spoiled floofs. Enjoy!
May 3, 2019
Episode 41: Game. Blouses.
On this episode, Jake and Geoff had to discuss the shot that shook the sports world. They discuss the Portland Trail Blazers and their first round victory against the Oklahoma City Thunder. They then bring back their segment Counter Culture and discuss some recent Tweets by politicians. Enjoy!
April 26, 2019
Episode 40: Sandy Rivers
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the Portland Trailblazers in the playoffs and they go over a psychology article that analyzes some behaviors and ideas surrounding current political figures and climate. Geoff opens up about his personal life and Jake is the best. Enjoy!
April 18, 2019
Episode 39: Them's Fightin' Words
On this episode, Geoff and Jake introduce a new segment, "Counter Culture." They have finally dedicated an episode on the Freedom of Speech in the United States and discuss college campus culture. Enjoy!
April 12, 2019
To The Republic: The Republican Party
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April 5, 2019
Episode 38: Bicycle Race
On this episode, Jake and Geoff introduce a new segment, chat with Jake's dad and discuss FBI file dumps! Enjoy!
March 29, 2019
Episode 37: In A Row?!
On this weeks episode, Jake shares some exciting news! Geoff and Jake then discuss graduate education, political cheap talk, the electoral college, misinformation and they discover a fake account on air! Enjoy!
March 21, 2019
Episode 36: Dr. Donna Sinclair
On this episode, Geoff and Jake are joined by one of their college professors, Dr. Donna Sinclair. Dr. Sinclair is a public historian, college professor, Washougal School Board Director, and a researcher and writer. She's the best. Enjoy!
March 14, 2019
To The Republic: Democratic Norms in the United States
On this episode of To The Republic, Jake and Geoff discuss democratic norms in the United States. They analyze how democratic norms are defined, their impact, and how shape democracies throughout history and today.
March 8, 2019
Episode 35: Knife In A Gunfight
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the controversy with the Benchmade Knife Company, the Oregon City Police Department, and gun policy. Geoff reveals how he voted on a bill which leads to a discussion and celebration of civil discourse. They have some fun at the end of the episode and have a surprise guest call in. Enjoy!
March 1, 2019
Episode 34: For The Longest Time
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss seeing They Shall Not Grow Old, pollution in Siberia, Bernie Sanders announcing his 2020 presidential run, and the arrest of a Floridian 6th grader. They also explore time travel and events and people they would be interested in seeing. Enjoy!
February 22, 2019
Episode 33: What's Love Got To Do With It?
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the potential state of emergency, populism, the future of the American political system, and building a wall on the southern border. They also analyze the mindsets behind opposing viewpoints and discuss immigration, migration, and the presidential election of 2020. Happy Valentine's Day! Enjoy!
February 15, 2019
To The Republic: Public Opinion in the U.S.
On this episode of To The Republic, Jake and Geoff discuss public opinion in the United States. They analyze how public opinion has been defined, measured, and shaped throughout history to today.
February 7, 2019
Episode 32: Young 'n' Dumb
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss the measles outbreak and state of emergency in their own backyard. They also discuss conspiracies, flat earth debates, and they continue looking at gun legislation. Jake gets dramatic with a personal story, but only as much as he needed to be. Plus, we finally get to hear Jake’s goose call!
January 31, 2019
Episode 31: We're soFISHticated
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss NBA basketball, completing How I Met Your Mother, and other TV shows. Your favorite talking heads then discuss a party's evolution vs. erosion. Enjoy!
January 25, 2019
Episode 30: Nerdy Thirty!
On this weeks episode, Geoff and Jake discuss their journey to find their political identity and how their past influences them today. They discuss and analyze the polarizing Gillette commercial and discuss the roles of the Supreme Court in politics and the effects on culture and society today. Enjoy!
January 17, 2019
Episode 29: Yippee-Ki-Yay, Mr. Falcon
It's 2019! On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the Presidential Medal of Freedom, lies, hypocrisy, and Tales From The Gun Counter! Enjoy!
January 10, 2019
To The Republic: Branches of the U.S. Government
On this episode of To The Republic, Jake and Geoff discuss the three branches of government, the system of checks and balances, and the benefits of how the three branches work together.
January 3, 2019
Episode 28: New Year, Knew Me
On this episode, Geoff and Jake take a look at materials provided to students when writing research papers and they review the book The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrage by Greg Gutfeld.
December 28, 2018
Christmas Special 2018
On this special episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by special guests Taryn, Clay and Rudy as they play games to celebrate the holiday season! Enjoy!
December 20, 2018
Episode 27: Rudy's Rabbit Hole
On this very special episode, Jake and Geoff sit down with the legend, Rudy James Wollrabe. Join us as we head down Rudy's rabbit hole and learn about the fascinating world of a an entertainer, a musician, and a Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey clown. Also, stick around for a treat at the end of the episode. Enjoy!
December 13, 2018
To The Republic: Voting in the United States
On this edition of To The Republic, Jake and Geoff explore the U.S. voting system, its history and construction. They also discuss social movements that demonstrate how populations fought for their right to participate in United States democracy. Finally, they look at studies and data that reflect the fabrications surrounding voter fraud.
December 6, 2018
Episode 26: Liter-A-Cola
It's been half a year of podcasting! On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by their friend and colleague, Megan! They discuss embarrassing moments and stories, how to order a soda, and the future of the Democratic Party. Enjoy!
November 30, 2018
Episode 25: Trigger Warning
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Thanksgiving, a top ten list, and another championship that Jake holds! They also explore the expansion of trigger warnings in society today. Enjoy!
November 23, 2018
To The Republic: U.S. Immigration
As an expansion of Say What You Mean, Jake and Geoff have created a new show dedicated to exploring civics, history, and U.S. institutions to be broadcasted through the radio station KXRW. For this first show, Geoff and Jake explore the history, processes, and causes/results of immigration in the United States.
November 16, 2018
Episode 24: Wicked Witch of The West
On this episode, the guy's celebrate Jake's birthday! They also discuss the dangers of rain and travel down some random rabbit holes! Enjoy!
November 16, 2018
Episode 23: Risk It For The Biscuit
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss Syrian refugees, U.S. midterm elections, the future of the Democratic Party, over-corrective voting and Christmas celebration etiquette and social acceptance. They also have two big announcements! Enjoy!
November 9, 2018
Episode 22: 2018 Halloween Special
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Halloween and their highs and lows during the holiday. They discuss candy, music, and costumes! Of course they address the current political climate and end with their love for NBA basketball. Enjoy!
November 1, 2018
Episode 21: Refuse To Lose!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff are joined by their friend Matt! They discuss minivans, collectables, politics, international relations, and interesting treasures they own. Enjoy!
October 25, 2018
Episode 20: Crushed
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss bizarre things/services that people pay for, pranks and adolescent troublemaking, far-right groups in the PNW, how to engage with others you may disagree with, and presidential paintings. Enjoy!
October 18, 2018
Episode 19: Imaginary Enemy
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss Sir Tuck The Golden Pup, Pokemon Go AGAIN, UFC 229, racism in sports, tribalism, immigration, and academia. Enjoy!
October 11, 2018
Episode 18: Fire Sale!
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss some topics suggested by listeners and friends! The guys address saying what you mean, political term limits, the supreme court, the role of the President, and USMCA: NAFTA II. They also discuss television shows that they have started watching.
October 4, 2018
Episode 17: You Owe Me A Taco
On this episode, Jake and Geoff recap their week, discuss their sports teams, and update some topics that have been previously discussed. They want to thank everyone who has continued to listen regularly and support their podcast.
September 27, 2018
Episode 16: The Times They Are A-Changin'
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss who they would use to build their ultimate special forces team - action heroes and superheroes! They also discuss gun legislation, misinformation, and how propaganda affects voters.
September 20, 2018
Episode 15: And Just Like The Movies...
On this episode Geoff and Jake discuss thought provoking films and what they mean to them! Beware of spoilers! They also discuss the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings and holding elected officials accountable.
September 13, 2018
Episode 14: ...Then You Can Get Out!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss hunting, camping, Colin Kaepernick and the Nike campaign, the NBA, Big Brother, patriotism and tribalism. Enjoy this rabbit hole episode!
September 7, 2018
Episode 13: We Stand With Teachers
On this episode Geoff and Jake discuss Marvel movies, The Room, and the Washington state teacher strikes and collective bargaining negotiations. We stand with teachers.
August 30, 2018
Episode 12: Do You Remember The Time?
On this episode, Jake and Geoff talk for a long time. Enjoy!
August 23, 2018
Episode 11: They Took Our Jobs!
On this episode, Geoff and Jake catch up and discuss their very different experiences with job searches, how people identify politically, and the the consequences of not saying what you mean.
August 17, 2018
Episode 10: Welcome To Wally World
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss family vacations, sports experiences, Bend, OR, Donald Trump vs Lebron James, and current research project ideas! They also tease upcoming ventures!
August 9, 2018
Episode 9: Clubz 'n' Jamz
On this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss life in the fast lane, favorite foods, cultural appropriation in the food industry. They also discuss their independent research projects and their understanding of history as a discipline. Enjoy!
August 2, 2018
Episode 8: I'll Cry If I Want To
On this episode, Jake and Geoff share their experiences with birthday parties. They also discuss President Trump saying what he means and international political science and psychology. Enjoy!
July 26, 2018
Episode 7: Three Muggles: A Harry Potter Special
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss their love for Harry Potter with their guest, Megan! Enjoy this exclusive Harry Potter episode! Mischief managed.
July 19, 2018
Episode 6: For All The Marbles
With their special guests, Clay and Taryn, Geoff and Jake discuss music, TV shows, politics, and they play a new game, Mean What You Say! Enjoy!
July 13, 2018
Episode 5: Mars Attacks!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss guilty pleasure TV shows, political polarization, Geoff's new found peace and love, and Supreme Court Justices. Enjoy!
July 5, 2018
Episode 4: Coalition of the Willing
This weeks episode features Geoff and Jake's first guest, Matt Reeves. The guys discuss their friendship, fears, international politics, and NBA basketball! Enjoy!
June 29, 2018
Episode 3: Gotta Catch 'Em All!
On this episode, Jake and Geoff discuss video games! They also get into discussing music and songs that challenge and demonstrate attitudes toward society, culture, and politics.
June 22, 2018
Episode 2: Stop Looking At Me, Swan!
In this episode, Geoff and Jake discuss the public education system, dogs of Instagram, hunting, the NBA, Star Wars, and baseball coming to Portland!
June 14, 2018
Episode 1: Elliptical For The Win
In this first episode the guys discuss their education, history in band and choir, sports fandom, Backstreet Boys, and how they met!
June 2, 2018