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Investing In Integrity

Investing In Integrity

By Scholars of Finance
Welcome to Investing in Integrity by Scholars of Finance. SOF is a rapidly growing organization on a mission to inspire character and integrity in the finance leaders of tomorrow. If you’re an investor, finance professional, or student aspiring to make an impact with capital, this podcast is for you. Investing in Integrity is a compilation of conversations and interviews with leading minds in finance that will help you learn how you can make finance a force for good.
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#20 - SOF Student Panel #1: From Stigma & Stereotype to Purpose & Passion – 4 Student Perspectives on Pursuing Careers in Finance
In our first-ever student panel, our CEO Ross Overline spoke with several Scholars of Finance members from the Princeton, MIT, and UC Berkeley chapters. “One finance club I joined had a party culture – it was toxic and snaky, and instead of encouraging community, it made me feel alone,” said one panelist. “It made me reconsider and almost give up on the finance industry because I wasn’t comfortable. The culture turned good people away.” “But the truth about finance,” another student said in this episode, “is that you can be ethical, hold your values close to your heart, reach the top and use your position to do good and be admired for it.” Throughout the conversation, our panelists attested to the impact SOF has had on their pursuit of positive, values-driven, inclusive finance cultures. “The people I’m around in SOF help me have more hope,” said one student. “This community encourages and motivates us to stay true to our values.” This episode is packed with first-hand student stories and perspectives covering: 1. the diverse finance cultures at their universities, and how they found like-minded, mission-driven peers and avoided toxicity through SOF 2. the finance industry and its reputation at their campuses, and how they have been navigating the recruiting process to find values-driven opportunities 3. the intersections between pursuing finance and social impact, ranging from helping their extended families overseas to driving inclusive change within the industry As another student panelist said, “I’m most looking forward to starting a domino effect to help others achieve the best versions of themselves, because it takes a village to achieve what we want to do.” We hope this conversation – packed with authentic insights from SOF student members – tips a domino for you in your own pursuit of a purpose & passion-driven career. Episode Segments: 00:00 - Intro 02:09 - Background on student panelists 10:16 - Finance culture at different schools 27:15 - Student perspectives on finance industry and recruiting 34:28 - The impact our members hope to make in finance 41:21 - How SOF has impacted our members
May 20, 2022
#19 - Inclusive Capitalism (feat. Mandell Crawley, CHRO @ Morgan Stanley)
Mandell began his career at Morgan Stanley and has been with the firm for 30 years. Prior to his role as CHRO, he served as the Head of Private Wealth Management, as the Chief Marketing Officer, and in a variety of roles in Sales, Trading, and Business Development. Throughout his time at Morgan Stanley Mandell has led the organization across revenue and asset growth, fielded leadership talent, and spearheaded the creation of a more equitable firm culture. We discussed many topics today, including Mandell’s unique story of entering and rising the ranks at one of the top investment banks in the world, the role capital and capitalism plays in driving societal change, the ESG movement, and the importance of diversity and inclusion in the industry. Mandell was a fun and insightful guest and the conversation was amazing - all thanks to him of course. Our team really does hope you enjoy it and find it as valuable as we did. Episode Segments 00:00 - Intro 01:33 - Mandell’s career and story 8:50 - Thinking through major career moves 12:37 - What’s the distinction between learning and growing? 15:00 - Conscious capitalism and the role of capital in society 23:15 - How is Morgan Stanley employing capital to improve society? 29:41 - The importance of ESG investing 32:52 - The role of income inequality in shaping the world of finance 36:50 - What is driving the lack of diversity inside of financial firms today? 41:38 - How diversity has evolved at Morgan Stanley 44:30 - Rapid fire questions
April 14, 2022
#18 - Macroeconomics and Finance (feat. Chris Campbell, Chief Strategist at Kroll)
In episode #18, Ross converses with Chris Campbell, the Chief Strategist at Kroll. Chris has an incredibly interesting story and provides unique insight on the financial system with his deep experience in both the public and private sectors. Chris discussed many topics including, working in the United States government, tackling tough objectives through policy, early career trajectory and advice, the role of finance in the current day, the current macroeconomic environment in the US, and the advice he would give to young finance professionals. Prior to his role at Kroll, Chris was unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate to serve as the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Institutions serving from 2017 to 2018. Prior to this role he served as the Staff Director of the Senate Finance Committee and Judiciary Committee. He designed, managed and coordinated the U.S. Senate Republican agenda in the areas of international and domestic taxation, international trade, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the U.S. National Debt. As a part of his government leadership roles, Chris helped spearhead some of the most impactful financial legislation and international negotiations of the last decade. We are pleased to have Chris Campbell on today’s podcast!
March 17, 2022
#17 - Private Equity and Technology (feat. Chris Varelas, Founding Partner at Riverwood Capital Partners)
Chris Varelas is the Founding Partner at Riverwood Capital Partners. Riverwood Capital Partners is a world-leading Private Equity firm that invests in high growth technology. With over 3 billion dollars in capital commitments Riverwood enables tech-related business scale into world-class organizations. If that isn't enough, Chris is a board member for The Aspen Institute - an organization that works to build diverse and creative thought leaders who are designed to address the world’s most complex issues. Prior to his work with Riverwood and The Aspen Institute, Chris worked at Citi as the Global Head of Technology, Media & Telecom Investment Banking, Head of Citi’s National Investment Bank, and a member of Citi’s Global Operating Committee.
March 03, 2022
#16 - The Evolving Reputation of Finance (feat. Christine Anderson, Global Head of External Relations, Blackstone)
Our CEO, Ross Overline, talks with Christine Anderson about how the reputation of finance and corporate governance have evolved over the years, her experience in the Clinton Administration press room, and the duties of her current role at Blackstone. Christine Anderson leads Blackstone’s efforts related to Environmental, Social and Governance issues and she serves as the primary spokesperson for the firm, advising Blackstone’s senior leaders and business groups as well as companies across Blackstone’s portfolio on ESG matters.
February 17, 2022
#15 - Academia in Finance (Jonathan Knee, Senior Advisor @ Evercore)
This week on the podcast we had Jonathan Knee, a Senior Advisor at Evercore in the firm’s Corporate Advisory Business and Co-Director of the Media and Technology Program at Columbia Business School. Before joining Evercore as a Senior Managing Director in 2003, Professor Knee was a Managing Director and Co-head of Morgan Stanley's Media Group. He was previously Publishing Sector Head in the Communications, Media and Entertainment Group at Goldman Sachs. Prior to becoming an investment banker, he was Director of International Affairs at United Airlines and served as Adjunct Professor of Law at Northwestern University. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, the Atlantic, and Jonathan is the author of The Accidental Investment Banker, The Curse of the Mogul, and The Platform Delusion. Episode Segments 00:00 - Intro 06:20 - Jonathan’s Journey to Finance 09:10 - “What I liked about Banking” 10:20 - Jonathan’s role at Morgan Stanley 12:15 - Role at Columbia University 14:20 - Work with CEO of United Airlines 17:51 - What led to be being an “accidental banker” 22:57 - How to build transparent relationships  31:50 - What Teaching is really about in finance 33:56 - Platform business delusions 40:00 - Rapid Fire Questions
January 27, 2022
#14 - Innovation in Finance (feat. Stephanie Cohen, Global Co-Head of Consumer and Wealth Management at Goldman Sachs)
In episode #14, Ross converses with Stephanie Cohen, Global Co-Head of Consumer and Wealth Management at Goldman Sachs. Stephanie discusses the importance of giving everyone a voice, and how staying curious and embracing failure can lead a company to rapidly innovate - even an investment bank as large as Goldman Sachs. Prior to assuming her current role, Ms. Cohen was the firm’s Chief Strategy Officer, where she drove strategy, Mergers & Acquisitions (M&A), strategic investing and partnerships for the firm. She led Launch With GS, Goldman Sachs’ $1 billion investment strategy which aims to increase access to capital and facilitate connections for women, Black, Latinx, and other diverse entrepreneurs and investors, as well as GS Accelerate, the firm’s in-house innovation engine. She is also a member of the Global Inclusion and Diversity Committee, serving as a Global Executive Sponsor of the Women’s Network.
January 13, 2022
#13 - Venture Capital (feat. Scott Kupor, Managing Partner at Andreessen Horowitz)
Scott Kupor is a Managing Partner at Andreessen Horowitz (a16z). A16z is a leading venture capital firm based in Menlo Park, California, with more than $18B AUM, focusing on early stage tech companies. Scott Kupor is the Managing Partner of Andreessen Horowitz (a16z), one of the world’s top venture capital firms. He has overseen the firm's rapid growth to more than 300 employees and more than $18 billion in assets under management. Prior to joining a16z, Scott worked for 8 years in a variety of roles at Opsware, an early SaaS company, before its sale to Hewlett Packard. Besides his role at a16z, Scott is the author of the Wall Street Journal best-seller, Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital and How to Get It. He serves on numerous corporate, nonprofit, and education boards. In today’s episode, Ross and Scott discuss Scott’s early journey from finance into the world of start-ups, venture capital, his role growing a16z from the founding with Marc Andreesen and Ben Horowitz, and his advice for anyone looking to be successful as early stage investors.
December 23, 2021
#12 - FDIC and the Financial Crisis (feat. Sheila Bair, Former Chair of FDIC)
Sheila Bair, named the 2nd most powerful woman in the world by Forbes in 2008 and 2009, is a former Chair of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). She oversaw the organization from 2006-2011, notably during the Financial Crisis and its aftermath. The FDIC, founded in 1933 as a part of the New Deal to restore confidence in the banking system, is one of two government agencies that supply deposit insurance to those who bank with American financial institutions. Prior to this role, Sheila had myriad roles in academia and a brief stint running for Congress. After retiring from the FDIC, Sheila re-entered academia and became the first female President of Washington College and today serves on a number of boards and governance committees. In today’s episode, Ross and Sheila discuss Sheila’s early career, her interest in economics, and what led her to her job at the FDIC. They then continue into a conversation about her tenure as Chair of the FDIC in the backdrop of the monolith Financial Crisis and the FDIC’s role in that crisis. Finally, they discuss Sheila’s post-FDIC career, including her stint as President of Washington College as well as her interest and involvement in Scholars of Finance.
December 09, 2021
#11 - Stewardship (feat. Ray Cameron, Head of the Strategic Partner Program & Head of Corporate Client Strategy - The Americas at BlackRock)
Ray Cameron is the Head of the Strategic Partner Program - The Americas, and the Head of Corporate Client Strategy - The Americas at BlackRock. Prior to this, Ray had been Head of Investment Stewardship for 3 years. Before joining BlackRock in 2018, Ray worked in a variety of roles across Wall Street for over 20 years, including firms such as Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, and Barclays. Ray holds a Bachelors of Business Administration from the University of Texas, Austin and a Masters of Business Administration from the Cox School of Business at Southern Methodist University. In today’s episode, Ross and Ray kick off their conversation with a discussion of Ray’s career and his appointment to leading roles at BlackRock. They then segue into a conversation about Ray’s core values and key lessons he’s learned throughout his career. Finally, they spend the remainder of the episode chatting about stewardship and steps that BlackRock, the leading asset manager by AUM globally, is taking to address current trends.
November 23, 2021
#10 - Principled Leadership (feat. Tony Paquette, CFO at Point72)
Tony Paquette is the Chief Financial Officer at Point72, a leading hedge fund with over $22bn in assets under management. Prior to joining the firm in 2020, Tony was at SoFi, a publicly traded FinTech company in Silicon Valley, as a Business Unit Leader overseeing International, New Business, Treasury, Regulatory Operations, and the firm's application for their bank charter - to name a few. Before SoFi, Tony was at J.P. Morgan, where he was a Managing Director and the Global Head of Funding & Liability Management. Further, he held portfolio management roles in the Chief Investment Office at J.P. Morgan, and in Treasury & Corporate Investments at Bank of America - all after beginning his career as a research analyst covering the Technology sector at Goldman Sachs. Tony and Ross worked together at SoFi and have since become close friends. In addition, Tony is on the Advisory Board at SOF. Tony holds a bachelor's degree in Business Economics and Organizational Behavior and Management from Brown University. In addition, Tony was on the varsity football team at Brown. In today’s episode, Ross and Tony kick off the conversation with a discussion of mentorship and cultivating rewarding mentor/mentee relationships. Further, Tony discusses the intersection of sports and leadership as well as some of his principles on being an effective leader. Finally, they shift the conversation to discuss Tony’s involvement in SOF.
November 11, 2021
#9 - Authentic Leadership (feat. Kofi Bruce, CFO at General Mills)
Kofi Bruce is the Chief Financial Officer at General Mills where he has worked for over 12 years in various roles at the firm. Prior to joining General Mills in 2009, Kofi worked at EcoLab and at the Ford Motor Company in various financial positions. Kofi holds an undergraduate degree in international relations from Stanford and a masters in business administration from the Ross School of Business at University of Michigan. In today’s episode, Ross and Kofi discuss Kofi’s early career arc and what eventually led him to General Mills. Further, they spend the bulk of the time discussing values and people based leadership as well as diversity in the finance industry. Finally, they pivot the conversation and discuss Kofi’s work outside of General Mills and his involvement in SOF.
October 28, 2021
#8 - ESG Investing (feat. Scott Mather, CIO at PIMCO)
Scott Mather is the CIO of U.S. Core and Sustainable Investing at PIMCO where he helps oversee over $2.2 trillion in AUM. He is a member of the Investment Committee and a portfolio manager. Scott also oversees the firm’s global ESG portfolio integration and sustainable investment activities and previously, he was head of global portfolio management. Prior to joining PIMCO in 1998, he was a fixed income trader specializing in mortgage-backed securities at Goldman Sachs in New York. Scott has 26 years of investment experience and holds a master's degree in engineering, as well as undergraduate degrees, from the University of Pennsylvania. In today’s episode, Ross and Scott spend the majority of the conversation focused on ESG investing, some of its benefits, some of its trade offs, and what you all can be doing right now to invest in a sustainable way.
October 14, 2021
#7 - Paving Your Path in Finance (feat. Elizabeth Sandler, Former MD & COO at Blackstone)
In today’s episode, we were joined by Elizabeth Sandler, the Founder and CEO of Echo Juliette and a former Managing Director at The Blackstone Group, to discuss mentorship with a focus on helping people chart their path in finance. Prior to founding her consultancy, Elizabeth served as a Managing Director at The Blackstone Group and Chief Operating Officer of Blackstone’s Real Estate Debt Strategies business from September 2016 to August 2018. Prior to that, she was at Deutsche Bank for 15 years as an MD and division COO as well. Elizabeth is a dynamo and we think you’ll love hearing from her. In our conversation we covered the importance of setting and accomplishing long-term goals, what we all can do to empower women in finance, what it takes to be a good mentor AND mentee, and so much more. As always, a special thank you to all of our students who submitted questions for today’s interview.
September 30, 2021
#6 - Our Story (feat. Ryan Quinlivan, VP of Institutional Equity Sales at Piper Sandler & SOF Co-Founder)
Today’s episode is a special one for many of us at Scholars of Finance as we had the opportunity to sit down with our Co-Founder, Ryan Quinlivan, to discuss the founding story of SOF. Ryan is a VP of institutional equity sales at Piper Sandler in their New York office. Beyond having a very successful early career thus far, Ryan has helped us build and grow SOF every step of the way on nights and weekends… investing a lot of time in our team, students, and community to help us achieve our mission of inspiring character and integrity in the finance leaders of tomorrow. Ross and Ryan start with how they both met and got involved in finance, and ultimately, how they started Scholars of Finance. We dive into our vision for finance and SOF as well. Ryan is an amazing person, leader, and deeply knowledgeable about markets - so we can’t wait for you to listen to this episode. A special thank you to all of our students who submitted questions for today’s interview.
September 16, 2021
#5 - Crypto and the Future of Finance (feat. Chris Larsen, Co-Founder and Executive Chairman at Ripple)
Chris Larsen is the Co-Founder and Executive Chairman of Ripple and happens to be a crypto billionaire. Chris is active in working to advance pro-consumer regulation in the financial sector and is an incredibly impressive leader, founder, and change-maker. In today's episode of Investing In Integrity, we delve into the regulation of cryptocurrencies, transparency in the financial system, socioeconomic impacts of crypto, their climate impact, and the future of crypto in America and across the globe. Here’s an overview of some of the segments: 00:00 - Intro 04:00 - What value crypto brings into the world 08:55 - The impact crypto has on globalization 12:30 - How crypto and blockchain technology can make finance more accessible 22:50 - Ripple’s lawsuit with the SEC and its regulatory implications 28:00 - Chris’s definition of cryptocurrency 32:00 - Crypto’s climate impact and how it can be dramatically reduced 57:00 - Career advice from Chris
September 02, 2021
#4 - Seeking Virtue in Finance (feat. JC de Swaan, Lecturer at Princeton University)
JC de Swaan is a Lecturer at Princeton University on the topic of Ethics in Finance. He also teaches at Cambridge University and is a partner at Cornwall Capital, a New York-based investment fund. In today's episode of Investing In Integrity, we talk with JC about his new book, Seeking Virtue in Finance: Contributing to Society in a Conflicted Industry. We unpacked each of the four pillars in his framework for virtuous financial leadership and discussed some of his thoughts on ethical fading and values-based leadership, among other topics. Segments from the episode: 00:00 - Intro 05:44 - Seeking Virtue in Finance at a glance 09:25 - The Four Pillars 13:31 - Pillar #1 (Customer Mandate. Serving Customers Interests Faithfully.) 25:14 - Pillar #2 (Social Wealth Creation. Contributing to Society Beyond the Customer Mandate.) 40:35 - Pillar #3 (Humanistic Leadership - Treating Colleagues with Dignity, Empowering Them, and Fostering a Responsible Culture.) 51:16 - Pillar #4 (Engaged Citizenship) 01:09:25 - The core virtues to adhere to as a finance leader
August 19, 2021
#3 - FinTech and the Economic System (feat. Joe Martinetto, COO @ Charles Schwab)
Joseph R. Martinetto is the Chief Operating Officer of Charles Schwab where he is responsible for operations, infrastructure, and products. This includes Charles Schwab Investment Management, Legal Services, Client Solutions, Community Services, Schwab's registered investment advisor affiliates and market strategists, and the Schwab Center for Financial Research. In addition, he leads Technology Services, Digital Services, Operational Services, and the Schwab Affiliated Banks. In today's episode, Ross and Joe shared a conversation covering the broader economic system with a large percentage of that time being spent focused on financial technology including DeFi, cryptocurrency, and his leadership of the acquisition of TD Ameritrade. Segments from the episode: 00:00 - Intro 5:54 - Where young professionals should focus to maximize their potential 7:27 - Joe's early career and how to find the right career strategy for yourself 10:47 - How to be a good team player 14:02 - How to be a strong leader 17:26 - Trade-offs within the context of work-life balance 23:57 - Charles Schwab's strategy against The Great Recession 29:01 - Assessing the risk profiles of different assets 36:25 - Why large finance companies are staying away from cryptocurrencies 40:05 - Does DeFi have a future in the financial sphere? 42:30 - How Schwab leverages new technology 46:15 - Schwab's Acquisition of TD Ameritrade
August 05, 2021
#2 - Building Confidence and Relationships (feat. Teri List, Board Director @ Microsoft)
Today is our second episode of Investing In Integrity and we were joined by Teri List, a Board Director at Microsoft. Teri was the CFO of three Fortune 500 companies, including Gap Inc., Kraft Foods, and Dick’s Sporting Goods, after working for P&G for almost 20 years and Deloitte for 10 years prior to that. In our conversation with Teri, we covered some of the biggest lessons she learned throughout her career including how to build confidence, investing in relationships, managing machiavellian colleagues, diversity in finance, the role philanthropy plays in our economy, and her experience being on the Board of one of the largest companies in the world. Segments from the episode: 00:00 - Intro 04:00 - The one thing that had an exponential impact on Teri's success 7:15 - How you can develop confidence 9:25 - The biggest lessons from Teri's career 13:09 - How to manage machiavellian colleagues 17:35 - The importance of building relationships 22:20 - How Teri got involved with Microsoft's Board of Directors 27:00 - What it's like to be on the Board of Microsoft 31:00 - Best practices in board leadership 37:00 - The importance of diversity in finance 42:20 - What we can do to help women succeed in finance 46:45 - The importance of philanthropy
July 22, 2021
#1 - Using Finance as a Force for Good (feat. John Taft, Vice Chairman @ Baird)
John Taft is Vice Chairman at Baird and a member of the firm's Executive Committee. Prior to joining Baird, he served as CEO of RBC Wealth Management, a full-service brokerage firm with nearly 2,000 financial advisors and over $280 billion in assets, for more than 10 years (2005-2016). He is a past chairman of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association (SIFMA), where he advocated for responsible financial reform. His book "Stewardship" is read by all of our students during the Leadership Development Program and covers the importance of core principles on a personal, professional, and societal level. Throughout this interview, Ross and John unpack the concept of stewardship and what everyone can do to use finance as a force for good. -- Segments from the episode: 00:00 - Intro 06:45 - John's book "Stewardship" 15:30 - What we can do to make finance a force for good 24:30 - The role of finance in making a positive impact 29:20 - Vehicles that generate value vs. those that extract value 39:30 - To what extent is the financial services industry extractive? 42:00 - Combating inequality and inequity through finance 53:00 - Advice for investors to maximize personal impact -- Join our mission at
July 08, 2021
Welcome to Investing in Integrity by Scholars of Finance. We're a rapidly growing organization on a mission to inspire character and integrity in the finance leaders of tomorrow. If you’re an investor, finance professional, or student aspiring to make an impact with capital, this podcast is for you. Investing in Integrity is a compilation of conversations and interviews with leading minds in finance that will help you learn how you can make finance a force for good.
July 08, 2021