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Score: The Podcast

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From the creators of the #1 documentary SCORE comes this award-winning podcast inviting you into the world of today's most beloved film composers and brilliant musical storytellers.
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#8 | Rudy Mancuso has the Música in him

Score: The PodcastApr 10, 2024

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#8 | Rudy Mancuso has the Música in him

#8 | Rudy Mancuso has the Música in him

YouTuber Rudy Mancuso has been following SCORE for years, as a musician and composer in his own right. He joins Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader to discuss his breakout hit film from SxSW ‘MÚSICA’ out now on Prime Video — a semi-autobiographic film, years in the making, that pushes musical possibilities to refreshingly brilliant musical storytelling. Directed as only a composer could, MÚSICA (also starring Camila Mendes and J.B. Smoove) is an exploration of synesthesia, in which Rudy experiences real life in semi-musical form. Rudy discusses how his content creator life was the perfect practice for navigating his own feature film, why puppets (yes, puppets) are so integral to his film, and why he never had any doubt he would direct AND compose the music himself.

Apr 10, 202458:45
#7 | Laura Karpman found jazz in drama

#7 | Laura Karpman found jazz in drama

Composer Laura Karpman joins Score to talk about her work on the Oscar-nominated score for AMERICAN FICTION, breaking down how jazz informed a story rich in satire and wit to give it a unique musical edge and voice intertwined with characters. Then, she discusses her path from likely music professor into at one point being one of the only women working in film and TV composing. Plus, Robert shares the personal influence Thelonious Monk had on his own life and love for jazz.
Feb 22, 202452:42
#6 | David Fleming says it's all about fun

#6 | David Fleming says it's all about fun

Composer David Fleming (The Last of Us, Blue Planet II) talks about his inventive score for Prime Video’s new Mr. & Mrs. Smith, working with Donald Glover, coming up through the Remote Control composer system with Atli Orvarsson, Steve Jablonsky and Hans Zimmer, and why the new Jim Henson documentary will melt everyone’s hearts. Interview by Kenny Holmes, Matt Schrader and Robert Kraft.
Feb 06, 202401:04:55
#5 | Carlos Rafael Rivera has a cookie for ya

#5 | Carlos Rafael Rivera has a cookie for ya

The Miami-based Carlos Rafael Rivera with two series releasing now (Griselda, Monsieur Spade) joins to talk about his massive breakout with The Queen’s Gambit, followed by Hacks and Lessons in Chemistry. Why Sofia Vergara's dramatic turn as a drug kingpin in Miami deserved an operative approach. How he manages to maintain his Miami location for an industry that is largely located in Los Angeles. Plus, he revisits his 2017 adventure to go see Score: A Film Music Documentary in New York, and how he’s brought some of his teaching skills (and musicians) into his music work.

Before that, Kenny and Matt break down the Oscar nominees, as Robert joins a few minutes later to explain why Oppenheimer’s score (by Ludwig Gorannsson) is so groundbreakingly original.

Jan 25, 202401:07:43
#4 | Richard Reed Parry is always looking for his mojo

#4 | Richard Reed Parry is always looking for his mojo

One of the original members of the indie band Arcade Fire, Richard Reed Parry (THE IRON CLAW, EILEEN) discusses his jump into film scoring, the importance of finding “mojo” and “vibe,” and how the wrestling biopic The Iron Claw nearly stumped him musically — until he unlocked the rich, layered sound that carries the film. How Spike Jonze’s film “Her” prepared him for the next stage in his career, and why he believes it’s important to be as musically dynamic with other musicians as possible.

Dec 27, 202345:09
#3 | Geoff Zanelli on making Adam Sandler laugh

#3 | Geoff Zanelli on making Adam Sandler laugh

Geoff Zanelli makes his long-awaited Score debut after one of Netflix’s most watched animated films of all-time, the Adam Sandler-produced LEO. In this episode, Kenny and Robert discuss the long-awaited arrival of MAESTRO, the Leonard Bernstein biopic, which we discussed on the 2nd episode of SCORE: THE PODCAST back when it was to be directed by Spielberg. Then, Robert and Geoff reminisce about drinking absinthe in Paris, before jumping into the challenge of making Adam Sandler laugh, and the paradox of writing “funny” music in animation. Plus, Geoff talks about his path from music school to being an intern at Hans Zimmer’s Remote Control Productions in the early (Lion King era) 1990s, sitting in on Alan Meyerson mixes, and getting his first opportunities while working for John Powell on the movie Face/Off. 

Dec 20, 202301:06:08
#2 | Martin Phipps recorded on Napoleon's piano

#2 | Martin Phipps recorded on Napoleon's piano

Composer of the new historical epic NAPOLEON Martin Phipps joins Score for the first time! How he located a piano once owned by Napoleon himself for the score. Plus, his path to film and television music, his work on Peaky Blinders, Black Mirror and The Crown, and establishing trust with the great Ridley Scott. How Martin overcame his early doubts about musical approach for NAPOLEON to meet its spectacular giant sets, and musically signaling Napoleon as an ambitious outsider rising to power.

Interview by Robert Kraft and Kenny Holmes.

Dec 05, 202337:22
#1 | James Newton Howard says film music cured his depression

#1 | James Newton Howard says film music cured his depression

Score season 5 returns with composer James Newton Howard, who currently has four projects releasing this month, including the Hunger Games prequel that he says asked him not to use synths (“they haven’t been invented yet”). Plus, how working with Hans Zimmer helped pull him out of a period of depression, when to fight for your musical opinion, and why he likes the rush of being asked to “save” blockbuster films in the final weeks before release. Interviewed by Robert Kraft and Matt Schrader.

Nov 16, 202356:24
Colin Stetson & Robert Kraft Live from World Soundtrack Awards

Colin Stetson & Robert Kraft Live from World Soundtrack Awards

Live podcast recording with composer Colin Stetson from Film Fest Gent and the World Soundtrack Awards in Belgium.

Composer and musician Colin Stetson is a nominee for the WSA Discovery of the Year Award, and sits down with Robert Kraft to talk about how he keeps his music fresh, his musical mind healthy and his performing career exciting. They also discuss his recent work, including THE MENU and HEREDITARY.

Recorded on location by Film Fest Gent in front of a live audience in October 2023.

Oct 30, 202336:58
Austin Wintory

Austin Wintory

Grammy-nominated and two-time BAFTA-winning composer Austin Wintory returns to SCORE for a special episode with SCORE's Robert Kraft. Austin breaks down plans for the game music segment he's curating for this year's World Soundtrack Awards in October, and explains working on games for people who don’t know yet they love games.

Sep 18, 202352:35
Gustavo Santaolalla

Gustavo Santaolalla

Academy Award-winning composer, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Gustavo Santaolalla joins Score: The Podcast for a lively conversation about the phenomenon his music helped create in The Last of Us, and why it's different than any of his other work. Plus, writing the score to Brokeback Mountain prior to anything being filmed, how the records he made with the band Arco Iris (at age 18) become a blueprint for his career, and how he put the instrument "ronroco" on the map. Gustavo also shares details about his upcoming projects, including a performance in October at the World Soundtrack Awards in Ghent, Belgium, where he will be with our own Robert Kraft.

Aug 21, 202350:01
Daniel Pemberton

Daniel Pemberton

In this special summer episode, Daniel Pemberton, composer of Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse, Daniel discusses his unique approach to the hit sequel's postmodern score, the success he’s had since his last appearance on Score: The Podcast — including SLOUGH HOUSE and The Trial of the Chicago 7 — and details about the upcoming tour of his Spider-Verse score, live to picture! Interview by Robert Kraft.

Jul 05, 202351:17
Carter Burwell

Carter Burwell

In this special pre-Oscars episode of Score: The Podcast, Oscar-nominated composer Carter Burwell speaks with Robert Kraft about his latest score for The Banshees of Inisherin. Will his third nomination be the charm? Carter talks about meeting the other nominees at the Academy luncheon, recording at Abbey Road, and working with directors.

Mar 01, 202343:29
More Score #62 | Hildur Guðnadóttir (Women Talking, Tár)

More Score #62 | Hildur Guðnadóttir (Women Talking, Tár)

Oscar-winning composer Hildur Guðnadóttir talks about her 2019 success on JOKER and CHERNOBYL and how she responded to pandemic slowdown at the breakout moment of her career. Why becoming a mother is something she holds so dearly and credits for some of her approach. Plus, why WOMEN TALKING challenged her to find a quiet inner strength, and TÁR created a mirror opposite of Hildur's approach to her music. Interview by Robert Kraft and Matt Schrader.

Feb 07, 202340:28
More Score #61 | Colin Stetson (The Menu)

More Score #61 | Colin Stetson (The Menu)

Composer Colin Stetson (The Menu, Hereditary, Color Out of Space) talks about capturing a fresh sound for The Menu, trying not to collapse while playing saxophone, and why it makes for terrible bar tricks. Interview by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader.

Feb 01, 202342:52
More Score #60 | Chanda Dancy (I Wanna Dance with Somebody)

More Score #60 | Chanda Dancy (I Wanna Dance with Somebody)

Composer Chanda Dancy talks about I WANNA DANCE WITH SOMEBODY, the Whitney Houston biopic, as well as her film DEVOTION. She also talks about her career rise and a music industry overlapping with film music industry. Interview by Robert Kraft.

Dec 22, 202235:26
More Score #59 | Damien Chazelle & Justin Hurwitz (Babylon)

More Score #59 | Damien Chazelle & Justin Hurwitz (Babylon)

Special Episode! Oscar-winning director Damien Chazelle sits down with his composer Justin Hurwitz ahead of their new film, BABYLON. Why Chazelle involves his composer long before his script is "final," and how he uses it to create storyboards. How the music of WHIPLASH and LA LA LAND were informed by music, and the challenges of bringing to life the 1920s-era BABYLON with all its brilliant, raucous and cacophonous musical splendor. Interview by Robert Kraft and Matt Schrader.

Dec 11, 202244:40
More Score #58 | Pinar Toprak (Thursday Night Football)

More Score #58 | Pinar Toprak (Thursday Night Football)

Composer Pinar Toprak dives into her performance with Billie Eilish and Finneas at the Oscars, and her process creating a theme suite for the NFL and Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime Video. Then, why the music for SLUMBERLAND is some of the most personal she’s ever written. Interview by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader.

Dec 01, 202233:41
More Score #55 | David Newman

More Score #55 | David Newman

The great David Newman has been scoring memorable and iconic films since the mid-1980s, and after his own prolific career has found himself being a part of a unique world — live film music concerts. From conducting John Williams concerts at the world-famous Hollywood Bowl, to conducting orchestras live-to-picture at Walt Disney Concert Hall, David has stumbled into a world of new opportunities. We talk about why film music concerts feel more like rock concerts than classical ones, and why experimenting with the performances can trigger massive audience responses. This is everything you wanted to know about the experience of seeing a film music concert! Interview by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader.

Nov 01, 202250:15
More Score #54 | Henry Jackman (The Gray Man)

More Score #54 | Henry Jackman (The Gray Man)

Composer Henry Jackman joins to talk about THE GRAY MAN, his musical relationship with the Russo brothers, how the birth of his son during the pandemic changed his perspective, and what kind of obsession it takes to truly make something meaningful. Interview by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader.

Oct 21, 202251:14
More Score #52 | David Buckley (The Sandman)

More Score #52 | David Buckley (The Sandman)

Composer David Buckley talks about his Netflix hit THE SANDMAN out now, finding the surreal, melancholy sound of a dream world. Plus, David talks about his unique start in film scoring (as a choirboy singing in a Scorsese film, then “toilet roll” ads), and how that led him to Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell (as well as Danny Elfman, Hans Zimmer and Rupert Gregson-Williams) and finding his own breakout hit films like JASON BOURNE and the recent hit NOBODY, plus his TV work on THE GOOD WIFE and THE GOOD FIGHT. Interviewed by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader on MORE SCORE.

Oct 01, 202248:02
More Score #51 | Daniel Hart and director David Lowery (The Green Knight)

More Score #51 | Daniel Hart and director David Lowery (The Green Knight)

Composer Daniel Hart and director David Lowery talk about the upcoming World Soundtrack Awards in Ghent, their musical collaboration and workflow on THE GREEN KNIGHT and how they met, other projects currently in the works, and even vegan French fries. Interviewed by Robert Kraft, only on MORE SCORE.

THEN: Around the 45:00 mark, Robert and Carol Kuswanto catch us up on the nominees for the World Soundtrack Awards, and what to look for in October!

Sep 21, 202258:12
More Score #49 | Dave Porter (Better Call Saul & Breaking Bad)
Sep 01, 202241:47
More Score #46 | Siddhartha Khosla (Only Murders In the Building)

More Score #46 | Siddhartha Khosla (Only Murders In the Building)

Composer Siddhartha Khosla on his massive hit that is ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING (now midway through Season 2), where those incredibly catchy melodies came from and why he loves to write them. The thematic reason why Sidd says the show needed an orchestra — and how SCORE: THE PODCAST’s own Carol Kuswanto ended up playing piano for the score! (She joins to break it down.)

We also chat with Sidd about whether discovering true-crime podcasts in between seasons changed the tone of his music, working with top-notch editors, and the hidden clues in season 1’s score. Interview by Robert Kraft and Matt Schrader, with Carol Kuswanto, only on MORE SCORE.

Aug 01, 202253:39
More Score #43 | Theodore Shapiro (Severance)

More Score #43 | Theodore Shapiro (Severance)

Theodore Shapiro is one of the emerging superstars of film and television composing, with a background in comedies and recent breakout hits such as Apple TV+’s SEVERANCE, directed by Ben Stiller. Teddy talks about getting started on another breakout hit YELLOWJACKETS before handing off the series to his friends Craig Wedren and Anna Waronker. Then, we dive into the intensely cinematic, deeply intimate and isolated music for SEVERANCE. Plus, how Teddy and Ben Stiller found their groove during pandemic lockdowns. Interview by Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader on MORE SCORE.

Jul 01, 202235:55
More Score #44 | Breton Vivian (Yellowstone, 1883)

More Score #44 | Breton Vivian (Yellowstone, 1883)

Breton Vivian is an English-Australian composer known for his scores to Yellowstone (with Brian Tyler) as well as the recent miniseries 1883. We talk about how working at Brian’s studio (and helping him move it) helped Breton come into his own as a composer.

Plus, the different ways themes, unique solo instruments, and orchestra can play together in western-inspired score. He also talk about his entry into film scores (growing disillusioned with the UK band scene) and how there’s no substitute for taking lots of meetings with potential creative collaborators.

Interview by Matt Schrader on MORE SCORE.

May 05, 202232:36
More Score #35 | Dmitry Selipanov on escaping Russia

More Score #35 | Dmitry Selipanov on escaping Russia

In this special episode of MORE SCORE on Patreon, Robert Kraft speaks to Russian composer Dmitry Selipanov about fleeing his home in Moscow because of the war. With his family now sequestered in a temporary home in nearby Georgia (possibly never returning to his home or music studio), Dmitry discusses the most difficult decision he’s ever had to make for his family’s well being, and his hopes that his successful film scoring career may one day be able to continue in another country.

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Apr 05, 202252:33
More Score #31 | Joseph Trapanese (The Witcher)

More Score #31 | Joseph Trapanese (The Witcher)

Composer Joe Trapanese talks about how long he can experiment to find a unique sound, why he doesn't mind long delays for his movies to come out, and his decision to take fewer scoring jobs, to ensure each one is something he can find fulfillment in. Plus, working for years on his upcoming thriller Spiderhead directed by Joseph Kosinski (TRON: Legacy, Oblivion, Top Gun: Maverick)

Mar 01, 202248:01
More Score #28 | Germaine Franco (Encanto)

More Score #28 | Germaine Franco (Encanto)

Disney's ENCANTO composer Germaine Franco sits down to talk about its #1 soundtrack, working with Lin Manuel Miranda, her start with composer John Powell (and how she met Robert Kraft), and much more! 

Feb 01, 202240:34
Special | Bear McCreary

Special | Bear McCreary

Kenny, Robert and Matt launch this offseason special talking about the Spitfire Audio Black Friday sale, and their success of the offseason show MORE SCORE, which is now available for $10/month on Patreon, Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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Then, the brilliant Bear McCreary joins to catch us up on his many projects, including Masters of the Universe Revelation, Vol. 1 & 2 out this week. Bear breaks down the metal symphonic sound he pitched Kevin Smith in their first meeting, and why that was a risky approach. He details working with Mark Hamill on a couple projects, and explains some of his early career missteps that he's made an effort to correct, allowing him and his studio Sparks & Shadows to thrive.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes
Executive Producer: Matt Schrader
© 2021 Epicleff Media

Nov 24, 202101:00:36
More Score #20 | John Debney

More Score #20 | John Debney

You might know JOHN DEBNEY from the poster of SCORE: A FILM MUSIC DOCUMENTARY.  Or the first episode of SCORE: THE PODCAST. (Or any of the dozens of hit films and beautiful scores he's written.) But he's also the king of the holiday movies!

It's been a few years since we caught up with John! He has a lot coming up — plus we'll talk his favorite holiday — Halloween — and HOCUS POCUS! Plus his upcoming Christmas concert tour with ELF, and talking with John Williams for Disney+'s new HOME SWEET HOME ALONE.

Oct 13, 202140:34
#11 | Randy Newman built his own legacy

#11 | Randy Newman built his own legacy

Kenny and Robert begin this Season Finale joined by Composer Carol and Matt Schrader reminiscing on the best moments of Season 4 and recapping the Emmy winners in the music categories. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore  Then, legendary songwriter and composer Randy Newman (Toy Story franchise, Monsters Inc., Meet The Parents, Meet The Fockers, Marriage Story, James and the Giant Peach, A Bug's Life) joins to share stories about his early days growing up around his uncles Alfred and Lionel, closely watching maestros Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams evolve into film music titans, revealing why Frank Sinatra passed on what became one of Randy's greatest songs and explaining why he decided to score Toy Story, which catapulted his film scoring legacy. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto © 2021 Epicleff Media
Sep 22, 202101:22:19
More Score #4 | Carlos Rafael Rivera

More Score #4 | Carlos Rafael Rivera

Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader interview Carlos Rafael Rivera about leaving an accounting degree to pursue music, learning about scores AND songs under Randy Newman, and shares a video he recorded in 2017 while going to see SCORE: A FILM MUSIC DOCUMENTARY in theaters in New York. Oh, and we discuss creating the music of Netflix's #1 all-time miniseries THE QUEEN'S GAMBIT.

Sep 21, 202159:32
More Score #5 | Fernando Arroyo Lascurain — All About Orchestras

More Score #5 | Fernando Arroyo Lascurain — All About Orchestras

What it’s like to play in Hollywood scoring sessions?

Fernando Arroyo Lascurain is a violinist for film scoring sessions (and a brilliant composer as well, who composed the music for Blockbuster: The Story of James Cameron). He breaks down the current state of the scoring session world amid Covid-19 changes, as well as the magic that happens when 100 musicians get perfectly in sync.

Is there anything you’ve ever wanted to know about orchestras? Let us know and we’ll break down in a future episode!

Sep 21, 202101:02:20
More Score #16 | Cristobal Tapia de Veer

More Score #16 | Cristobal Tapia de Veer

Cristobal Tapia de Veer is a Chilean-born composer working in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

His family fled Chile during the military coup of the 1970s, and ended up in France and then eventually in Montreal.

Cristobal's pop band ONE TON signed to Warner Music in 2001, before he turned his attention back to film and TV scoring.

He has scored the British TV series UTOPIA, Amazon Prime's ELECTRIC DREAMS, the finale of Netflix's BLACK MIRROR season 4, and most recently HBO's smash hit miniseries THE WHITE LOTUS.

In this interview for MORE SCORE with Robert Kraft, Cristobal talks about his artistic and idiosyncratic approach to scoring, and how he draws from other artistic mediums to inform sounds that are often strange and create a unique emotional effect.

Sep 14, 202140:41
#10 | James Newton Howard says be great at making a demo

#10 | James Newton Howard says be great at making a demo

Kenny and Robert begin the show discussing recent scores they've been checking out including Jordan Peele's take on Candyman by composer Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe and HBO's popular series The White Lotus by composer Cristobal Tapia de Veer.

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Then, 9x Oscar-nominated composer and friend of the show James Newton Howard (News of the World, Jungle Cruise, Raya and the Last Dragon, Fantastic Beasts series, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, King Kong, The Hunger Games series, The Sixth Sense, Signs) joins the show sharing why he dropped out of USC after three months on a music scholarship, revealing a question he once asked that immediately got him fired from an early film scoring gig, discussing how he connected with Metallica to collaborate for Jungle Cruise and why that may not be the last time they work together, and defining the most important skill a film composer should master.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com

Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Sep 08, 202101:14:42
More Score #15 | Music Video Review

More Score #15 | Music Video Review

Robert (an award-winning songwriter!) and Matt (not one) take a trip down memory lane and tell some stories behind iconic songs on the past few decades in this music video review!

PLAYLIST:

Beat It, Michael Jackson (1982)
I Want A New Drug, Huey Lewis & The News (1983)
Aaliyah, Journey to the Past, Aaliyah (1997)
Higher Love, Steve Winwood (1986)
Walk This Way, Aerosmith/Run DMC (1986 cover of 1976 song)
I Wanna Dance with Somebody, Whitney Houston (1987)
Lady Marmalade, Lil Kim, Mya, Pink, Christina Aguilera (2002)
Gettin' Jiggy Wit It (1998)
Shape of My Heart, Backstreet Boys (2000)
All The Small Things, Blink-182 (2000)
Seven Nation Army, The White Stripes (2003)
Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Green Day (2004)

Aug 25, 202152:38
#9 | Dan Romer was lured by the creative freedom of film music

#9 | Dan Romer was lured by the creative freedom of film music

In another loaded double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with World Soundtrack Awards Film Composer of the Year nominee Nainita Desai (The Reason I Jump, For Sama, American Murder: The Family Next Door) about her early years working as an engineer and mixer, overcoming "imposter syndrome," the art of writing music for documentary and keeping the authenticity of true stories and why she was caught by surprise when she learned she was nominated by the WSA.

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Later, award-winning composer and record producer Dan Romer (Luca, Beasts of the Souther Wild, Beasts of No Nation, Wendy, Superman and Lois) joins the show to sharing what he learned about scoring Italian influenced music, revealing what motivated him to create unique sound palettes for his scores, and details what happened with No Time To Die and why being replaced on that film only made him stronger.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com

Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Aug 25, 202101:51:37
#8 | Rupert Gregson-Williams loves being cheeky

#8 | Rupert Gregson-Williams loves being cheeky

Robert and Kenny begin the show discussing the nominees for the 2021 World Soundtrack Awards, including many former guests and friends of the show. Kenny also shares why Blake Neely had an exciting and unexpected surprise while watching the Tokyo Olympics over the weekend.   

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Later, Emmy-nominated composer Rupert Gregson-Williams (Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Hacksaw Ridge, Veep, Catch 22, The Crown, Behind Her Eyes and more) joins the show sharing his early stories of growing up with his brother and fellow A-list composer Harry and why they only recently collaborated on a project after many years of success as solo composers, detailing why a particular cue on The Crown was his most challenging job to date, and revealing why Adam Sandler prefers to skip spotting sessions on his films.


This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com

Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Aug 11, 202101:30:43
#7 | Carter Burwell still doesn't have a career in mind

#7 | Carter Burwell still doesn't have a career in mind

Robert and Kenny begin the show discussing the trailer release and score cues of Dune with original score by Hans Zimmer. Kenny asks Robert to explain why the music used in trailers most often doesn't reflect the score/sound of the film.

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Later, Oscar-nominated and Emmy-winning composer Carter Burwell (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, The Morning Show, Space Force, Fargo, Carol, Twilight series, No Country For Old Men, True Grit, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, The Tragedy of Macbeth and so many more) joins the show sharing that his initial leap into film was as an animator, how he connected with the Coen Brothers and why their bond has only gotten stronger after more than a dozen films together, explaining why he never left the east coast, and detailing his first earthquake encounter in 1994 while scoring Airheads, which happened to be one of the most catastrophic earthquakes in history.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com

Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Jul 28, 202101:25:27
#6 | Elliot Goldenthal looks behind the actors’ eyes

#6 | Elliot Goldenthal looks behind the actors’ eyes

In our third double-guest episode in a row, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with rockstar songwriter, musician and composer, Isabella Summers (Little Fires Everywhere, Panic, Physical) aka “The Machine” from Florence + The Machine. Isa reveals that she always wanted to work in film and even scored and directed her own horror films as a kid, explains how she jumped head first into film scoring and continues to learn as she goes and breaks down the differences between scoring with a partner and writing solo.

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Later, Oscar-winning composer Elliot Goldenthal (Frida, Batman Forever, Heat, Interview with the Vampire, Alien 3, Pet Sematary, Demolition Man and so many more) joins the show to discuss growing up in Brooklyn and absorbing multiple styles of music, his working relationship with late director Joel Schumacher, how Jim Carrey’s Riddler influenced his themes for Batman Forever, why he compares a tight deadline to a car crash, and shares his secret for overcoming writer’s block.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio

Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com

Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Jul 14, 202102:07:43
#5 | Mark Isham never stops learning something new

#5 | Mark Isham never stops learning something new

In another loaded double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with mega-talent Isobel Waller-Bridge, composer of Emma (2020), Fleabag, Vita & Virginia and more! Isobel shares stories of early collaborations writing songs with her sister Phoebe, why she likes to sneak "easter egg" sounds and lyrics into her scores and why she loves to tackle musical projects outside of her wheelhouse.

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Later, Emmy and Grammy-winning composer Mark Isham (HBO's The Nevers, Godfather of Harlem, Judas and the Black Messiah, Bill & Ted Face the Music, Crash (2004), A River Runs Through It, Once Upon a Time and so many more) joins the show sharing his unbelievable tale of how he got his first film scoring gig that involved a lot of luck, explains how scoring for TV has drastically changed over the course of his career, reveals why he got fired from the 1995 film Waterworld and what he's learned from experiences like that, and why he is motivated to collaborate with first-time film composers.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto  © 2021 Epicleff Media

Jun 30, 202101:56:18
More Score #9 | Alan Meyerson

More Score #9 | Alan Meyerson

Robert Kraft and Carol Kuswanto interview legendary film music mixer Alan Meyerson on his illustrious career, how he weaves his own creativity into music written by composers, the stories of working with Hans Zimmer, how the pandemic changed his job, and what's in store for the future of film music.

Jun 22, 202142:52
#4 | Saunder Jurriaans & Danny Bensi: Rockstar Maestros

#4 | Saunder Jurriaans & Danny Bensi: Rockstar Maestros

In this jam-packed double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with Serj Tankian, Grammy-winning singer/songwriter, rockstar frontman of System of a Down and rising star film composer. Serj shares why he made the decision to jump into film composing, recalls the exact moment he decided to make music his career and what Robert Kraft told him the first time they met in 2008 that ended up coming true, reveals when he fell in love with the orchestra, and explains why making another System of a Down album isn't off the table.

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Later, the Emmy-nominated composer duo of Saunder Jurriaans & Danny Bensi join the show sharing stories of starting a band together in New York and how and why they transitioned into film music, working with Jason Bateman and the unique way they got the gig for Ozark, what makes them select a documentary project and why they love taking on a project that takes them out of their comfort zone.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

Jun 16, 202101:54:56
#3 | David Newman got into the family business

#3 | David Newman got into the family business

Kenny and Robert being the show discussing the return of live concerts, specifically film music, as the nation begins to return to normal post-pandemic. The Hollywood Bowl announced their summer lineup which includes the return of John Williams' "Maestro at the Movies" show featuring David Newman as conductor and a live-to-picture performance of Ludwig Goransson's Oscar-winning score of Black Panther. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, Oscar-nominated composer David Newman joins the show discussing his family legacy in film music, why he always had his heart set on conducting the orchestra, what it was like growing up around film music legends like John Williams and ultimately being a session player on iconic scores like ET and teaming up with Steven Spielberg on the highly anticipated remake of West Side Story. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto  © 2021 Epicleff Media
Jun 02, 202101:35:16
#2 | Alan Menken's musical Disney revolution

#2 | Alan Menken's musical Disney revolution

Kenny and Robert being the show discussing how Alan Menken and Howard Ashman helped launch Disney into its new generation with The Little Mermaid. Robert reflects on joining the film as a music producer, unaware of how pivotal this film would be for the future of music in animation. Then, the guys check Score: The Mailbox and answer a question about when and why a composer should get an agent.

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Later, iconic composer and songwriter Alan Menken joins the show sharing how we went from writing for musicals on stage to transitioning into Hollywood with his longtime partner, the late Howard Ashman. Menken discusses developing some of his most famous songs and score from The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahantas, Hercules, Aladdin and more.


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Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

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May 19, 202101:38:54
#1 | Tom Holkenborg got his second shot with the Snyder Cut

#1 | Tom Holkenborg got his second shot with the Snyder Cut

Robert and Kenny begin this Season Premiere (now with video!) with special guest Matt Schrader, discussing our new Patreon exclusive show MORE SCORE, The Oscars' rough ending, Composer Carol's new album "Smile" and much more.

Later, composer Tom Holkenborg aka Junkie XL joins the show to share the unique story of getting fired from Justice League, only to be brought back years later to release the Snyder Cut. Tom details why he started from scratch on the four-hour score instead of continuing where he left off and the incredible challenges the pandemic brought along the way.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2021 Epicleff Media

May 05, 202101:43:17
#15 | Howard Shore: The King of the Rings

#15 | Howard Shore: The King of the Rings

Robert and Kenny begin this Season Finale with special guest, Matt Schrader discussing the trailer release of The Batman, Travis Scott & Ludwig Göransson's chart-topping single release for TENET, Hans Zimmer's new cue for WW84 and checking Score: The Mailbox. Plus, the team reflects on their favorite moments of this season of the show.

Later, 3x Oscar-winning composer Howard Shore joins sharing stories of his iconic work on The Lord of the Rings trilogy and why he couldn't turn the project down, why the maestro spends so much time finding the proper venue for recording the orchestra, the tricky task of underscoring Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire and why he had to write his own version of the "Happy Birthday" song for Big, which later got cut from the film.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes
Executive Producer: Matt Schrader
Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2020 Epicleff Media

Aug 26, 202001:37:03
#14 | Blake Neely's college suggested he quit music

#14 | Blake Neely's college suggested he quit music

Robert and Kenny begin the show with special guest, Matt Schrader discussing the season finale release of Blockbuster and checking Score: The Mailbox, with questions about composer compensation, live-to-picture film music concerts and how to present music to a director.

Later, Emmy-nominated composer Blake Neely joins the show to share how he overcame the early doubters, the excitement of scoring superhero crossover episodes like Arrow and The Flash, why his relationship with Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman is all about trust, the secret to scoring the tension in Greyhound and advice on preparing aspiring composers for rejection.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes
Executive Producer: Matt Schrader
Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2020 Epicleff Media

Aug 19, 202001:26:21
#13 | Max Richter has to fall in love with a project

#13 | Max Richter has to fall in love with a project

Robert and Kenny begin the show answering questions from Score: The Mailbox about why album versions of scores sometimes differ from the film version, the use of diegetic music in film and if there is a common starting point for writing a score.

Then, Emmy-nominated composer Max Richter joins to discuss his brilliant artist career, including his new album ‘Voices,’ why director Ari Folman called out of the blue demanding he score Waltz with Bashir, his use of laments in Taboo and why he took real space travel data and converted it into music for Ad Astra.

This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes
Executive Producer: Matt Schrader
Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

© 2020 Epicleff Media

Aug 12, 202001:22:06