
The Principal Liner Notes Podcast
By Sean Gaillard


The Narrative Edge with Dr. Rod Berger

#PrincipalLinerNotes: Back on Deck: Setting Sail with Dave Burgess
It’s the return of the #PrincipalLinerNotes podcast—and what better way to relaunch than with a guest who has ignited passion, creativity, and courage in classrooms and schoolhouses across the globe: Dave Burgess.
In this powerful conversation, we riff on the enduring impact of Dave’s groundbreaking book, Teach Like a PIRATE, and how it lit a fire in my own journey—ultimately inspiring me to write The Pepper Effect. It’s only fitting, and delightfully serendipitous, that we reconnected on the book birthday of The Pepper Effect, which Dave proudly published.
Our conversation sails through the intersections of education, music, and history, with Dave sharing his deep love for Hip Hop and Rap—and how that love influences his message, mindset, and mission. From Nas and Rakim to classroom culture and legacy-building, we explore how leadership and creativity harmonize in service of students and educators.
Whether you're a veteran principal, aspiring educator, or just someone who believes in the power of purpose-driven work—this episode will reignite your why.
🔗 Connect with Dave Burgess:
🌐 Website: https://daveburgess.com
🐦 Twitter/X: https://x.com/burgessdave
📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dave.burgess.526

So Long to the Podcast!
In this final episode of #PrincipalLinerNotes, I express my heartfelt gratitude for my guests and listeners. Thanks for tuning in and supporting!
Stay tuned for upcoming podcast projects!
- Read more about my thoughts on closing shop on the podcast here: https://principallinernotes.wordpress.com/2024/10/27/so-long-to-the-principal-liner-notes-podcast/
- Order my book, #ThePepperEffect, on Amazon: https://a.co/d/8m2H4Rl

Connected Conversation with Lauren Kaufman
Longtime guest and unofficial executive producer of the podcast, Lauren Kaufman, joins me one last time on #PrincipalLinerNotes. In our freewheeling conversation, we talk about many things as we always do. This is a very special episode where two friends come together and bring out the best in each other as we always do. Lauren shares here sharp insights on leadership as she always does wiht eloquence, sincerity, and compassion.
Check out Lauren's website for her amazing blog and connection to her social channels: https://laurenmkaufman.com/

Connected Conversation with Maria Galanis

Connected Conversation with Meghan Lawson
Principal Liner Notes Podcast – Episode: Connected Conversation with Meghan Lawson
In this special episode of the Principal Liner Notes Podcast, we are honored to welcome back Meghan Lawson for her 4th and final appearance. Meghan has been a cherished voice on the podcast, bringing her passion and insights to every conversation. This time, we dive deep into a topic that resonates with educators and leaders alike: Hope.
Meghan shares her thoughts on cultivating hope in our schools, classrooms, and daily lives. We reflect on the power of hope to transform mindsets, inspire action, and create lasting change. This conversation is more than just an episode; it lays the groundwork for an exciting new podcast project that Meghan and I will be launching soon called Hope Amplified. Stay tuned for more details on this inspiring new venture.
Connect with Meghan Lawson:
- Legacy of Learning on Amazon – Discover Meghan’s book where she explores the lasting impact of intentional teaching and leading.
- Meghan's Blog and Website – Read her latest reflections on education and leadership.
- Social Media Channels:
Tune in and join us as we explore how hope can be amplified and sustained in our educational journey. Let’s embrace the possibilities together!
#HopeAmplified #LegacyOfLearning #PrincipalLinerNotes #LeadershipRiffs


Connected Conversation with Martha Jaureguizar

SMiLE at 20: Harmonizing Innovation and Resilience
This is an impromptu bonus episode. It's the 20th anniversary of one of my favorite albums of all-time, "Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE." I share my love for this masterpiece and provide a quick leadership lesson connected to the album. I also share a little bit about the upcoming finale for this podcast series.


Connected Conversation With Jim Johnson
Coach Jim Johnson joins me for a connected conversation. Jim shares his expertise on leadership, team-building, and culture. Jim also talks about his book: A Coach and a Miracle: Life Lessons from a Man Who Believed in an Autistic Boy.
Learn more about Jim and order his book at his website: https://coachjimjohnson.com/
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Connected Conversation with Andrea Trudeau
In the latest episode of #PrincipalLinerNotes, I’m thrilled to share a vibrant conversation with the amazing Dr. Andrea Trudeau, a true champion for literacy and belonging. We dive into the power of books, the magic of collaboration, and the heart of creating a welcoming school library for every student. Tune in to hear Dr. Trudeau's inspiring insights and feel the positive energy she brings to the world of Education. This episode is sure to uplift and ignite your passion for building connections in your school community!
Follow Andrea:
Website: noshhlibrarian.com
Learn more about here project: Librarians Building Libraries
Books Mentioned In Our Conversation:
The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip Heath and Dan Heath
That Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America by Amanda Jones

Connected Conversation with Ryan Jackson
Dr. Ryan Jackson, founder of Fit Leaders and an inspiring school leader, joins the podcast. Learn about his journey as an educator and the origin story of Fit Leaders.
Follow Ryan:
X: https://x.com/RyanBJackson1
IG: https://www.instagram.com/underdogsadvocate/
Learn more about #FitLeaders: https://www.fitleaders.us/

Connected Conversation with Dr. Marie Moreno
Dr. Marie Moreno joins the podcast for a Connected Conversation. Dr. Moreno is the founder of Newcomer Success, LLC. She advocates for immigrants and refugees on a worldwide level. Dr. Moreno is a former principal and educator who leads with empathy, innovation, and purpose. In 2022, Dr. Moreno was named a 2022 Time.com Innovative Educator recipient and a nominee for the 2022 World Affairs Council - Global Leader of Influence award.
Follow Dr. Moreno:
X: https://x.com/NewcomerSuccess
Email: DrMoreno@Newcomersuccessllc.com
Website: https://www.newcomersuccessllc.com/index.html
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-marie-moreno-7009a7167/

Connected Conversation with Sammi Betham

Connected Conversation with Glenn Robbins
Glenn Robbins joins me for a rewarding connected conversation on the podcast. Glenn is an award-winning superintendent of Brigantine Schools in New Jersey. He is also the co-author of Calm in the Chaos: Ancient Stoic Wisdom for Successful School Leadership.
Follow Glenn:
X: https://x.com/GlennGRobbins
Website: https://glennrobbins.com/
Order Glenn's book: https://a.co/d/fclbJdt

Connected Conversation with David James
David James, Teacher Leader at Harold E. Winkler Middle School in Concord, NC, joins me for a Connected Conversation. David shares his leadership journey and passion for Middle School. David is an active board member of the North Carolina Association for Middle Level Education and serves as one of the organizers for the NCMLE Conference.
David discusses his work with NCMLE and their upcoming conference. Additionally, David discusses how his school has developed an innovative model for schoolwide professional development.
Learn more about NCMLE (North Carolina Association for Middle Level Education and its 2025 conference: https://ncmle.org/
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Connected Conversation with Lauren Kaufman #TheLeaderInside
My very good friend and thought partner, Lauren Kaufman, returns to the podcast for a 3rd time! Lauren discusses her brand new book, #TheLeaderInside. The book is a masterpiece and provides compelling stories and reflections to inspire your leadership journey.
Connect with Lauren:
- X: https://x.com/LaurenMKaufman
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurenmkaufman/
- Website: https://laurenmkaufman.com/
- Order #TheLeaderWithin: https://a.co/d/9iKIVkk

Connected Conversation with Noa Daniel
Noa Daniel, educator, author, and consultant, joins me for a Connected Conversation. We discuss Noa's book, Strum and the Wild Turkeys. Additionally, we share record store memories and discuss the beautiful intersection between Music and Education.
Follow Noa's links and order her book here: https://linktr.ee/NoaDaniel

Connected Conversation with Adam Welcome

Connected Conversation with Jennifer Moroz
Jennifer Moroz, educator, podcaster, and professional development consultant, joins for a Connected Conversation. We discuss assessment, learning pathways, and how to take a "Greatest Hits" approach to empowering school culture.
Visit Jennifer's website: https://www.jenmo.org/
Follow Jennifer on X: https://x.com/jenniferlmoroz
Follow Jennifer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifer_moroz_/
Follow Jennifer on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@assessmentsyndicate

Connected Conversation with Jen Rafferty
Jen Rafferty, educator, author, and former Music teacher, joins the podcast for a connected conversation. Jen is also the founder of Empowered Educator, a groundbreaking platform of resources, tools, and community for educators to thrive in their profession. "Take Notes with Jen Rafferty" is her podcast and is in the top 2.5% globally.
We discuss Jen's journey as a Music teacher and how she fostered communities of safety so all are visible. Jen shares how she connects with educators in her consulting work. Jen is an inspiring voice and you will be empowered in so many ways after this conversation.
- Check out Jen's website: https://empowerededucator.com/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenrafferty_/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/empowerededucatorfacultyroom/
- X: https://x.com/jenrafferty_
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@empowerededucator
- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jenrafferty_?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

Unpacking "The Bear" with Meghan Lawson
Meghan Lawson returns to the podcast for a third time! We discuss our takeaways on Season 3 of "The Bear." Our conversation focuses on Episodes 1-2 of the new season.
Spoiler Alert: Don't play if you have not watched any of the episodes yet!
Visit Meghan's website and subscribe to her weekly blog: https://meghanlawson.com/
Order Legacy of Learning, Meghan's book: https://a.co/d/00zusHQ7

Connected Conversation with Vicki Wilson
Vicki Wilson, educator, author, and education consultant, joins me for a connected conversation. We discuss Strengths-Based Instruction Rounds, which is the basis for her book, Lead with Instructional Rounds: Creating a Culture of Professional Learning.
- Order Lead with Instructional Rounds on Amazon: https://a.co/d/0irZPn5X
- Follow Vicki on X: https://x.com/vickilwilson5
- Visit her website: https://www.vickiwilson.org/

Connected Conversation with Darrin Peppard
Darrin Peppard, former high school principal and superintendent, joins me for a connected conversation on leadership. We delve into the essential aspects of clarity and intentionality being key characteristics for a leader to demonstrate. We also talk about the importance of nurturing and facilitating a leadership team.
Darrin is a dynamic speaker, author, and leadership coach!
Follow Darin on X: https://x.com/DarrinMPeppard
Order a copy of Darrin's book and link up with his website: https://linktr.ee/darrinmpeppard

Connected Conversation with Elizabeth Dampf
Elizabeth Dampf, author, blogger, and district leader, returns for a THIRD time to the podcast. We have another engaging and insightful conversation on Leadership.
Order her new book: Dealing with Staff Turnover: Systems That Make Schools More Resilient in Times of Change https://a.co/d/fTlTAQE
Follow Elizabeth on X: https://x.com/ElizabethDampf

Connected Conversation with Alyssa Gallagher

Connected Conversation with Kim Strobel
This is the inaugural episode for Season 7 featuring Kim Strobel.
Kim is a Happiness Coach, Keynote Speaker, Consultant, and former educator/school leader. She is the author of Teach Happy: Small Steps to Big Joy. We discuss her book and her inspiring work in empowering educators to be their best selves. Also, learn Kim's favorite song by The Rolling Stones!
Links:
- Here's the Gratitude Tracker: https://strobeleducation.com/gratitude-habit-tracker/
- Kim's Website: https://strobeleducation.com/
- Order Teach Happy Book: https://strobeleducation.com/teach-happy/

In Celebration of "Headquarters" by #TheMonkees
This is my annual tribute to my favorite Monkees album, "Headquarters." This episode was recorded on the 57th anniversary of the album's release. I consider it a masterpiece and an emblem for creative courage.
I dedicate this episode with humility and respect for Micky Dolenz, Michael Nesmith, Peter Tork, and Davy Jones.
Listen to the album on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/2Xy4kclO1HRW9TGMPgpK2B?si=iPjtQQiqRC-7Il-YG17_Lg
Order a vinyl copy of the album from Friday Music: https://a.co/d/dM82Ilu

Connected Conversation with Don Sturm
Don Sturm joins the podcast for a connected conversation. He is a district instructional technologist and innovative educator. Recently, Don was named President-Elect of Illinois Digital Educators Alliance. Don is also an avid podcaster and co-hosts two podcasts:
- "Through the Educational Looking Glass"-https://open.spotify.com/show/1PX98EAYp0e12Y8GtL5K6P?si=1645bc9b641742c4
- "CareU"-https://open.spotify.com/show/2yIdKqAuhTmoYUeQB350tf?si=36e0a5681245410b
Follow Don on X for more inspiration:

Connected Conversation with Ben Dumbauld


Connected Conversation with Christina Collins
Christina Collins joins the podcast for a Connected Conversation episode. She is the founder and owner of NeverStopMoving365 (NSM365). Christina is an PE educator and doctoral candidate who is on mission to bring more physical movement into our schools and communities.
Follow Christina:
- Website: https://neverstopmoving365.com/home/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neverstopmoving.365
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NSM365/
- Linktree: https://linktr.ee/neverstopmoving.365
- X: https://twitter.com/NSM_365_
One of Sean's Workout Mix Tapes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1EKb0XUS1RlqElSNe8RuEb?si=59842fabf9154dfe

Connected Conversation with Evan Whitehead

Visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Possibilities in Failure: In honor of a Magical Mystery Tweet
This is my annual podcast episdoe tribute to a tweet that led to the publishing of my book, #ThePepperEffect. Stay tuned for FOUR special announcements on some projects and events coming soon in 2024!


When the Crickets Chirp

Small Moments to Find The Good


Connected Conversation with Deidre Roemer
Tune in for a connected conversation episode with Deidre Roemer, Superintendent of South Milwaukee Schools.
Deidre and I cover many topics including the following:
- Student-Centered Leadership
- Strategic Planning
- Music as a connector
- Principal Coaching
Be sure to follow Deidre's blog: https://t.co/G0W0z1YtKd
Follow Deidre on X: https://twitter.com/deidre_roemer
Order Because of a Teacher and read Deidre's inspiring chapter contribution: https://a.co/d/cJH9rmR

Connected Conversation with Jimmy Casas
Jimmy Casas joins the podcast for an inspiring episode where we chat about leadership, culture, and recalibration. I am honored to have this renowned author, speaker, and publisher share his insights on #PrincipalLinerNotes.
Jimmy is the CEO of J Casas & Associates. He has led schools as a principal and authored nine books including, Culturize, Live Your Excellence, and Recalibrate the Culture.
Follow Jimmy on X: https://twitter.com/casas_jimmy
Check out his website: https://www.jimmycasas.com/

Gratitude to Vision

Connected Conversation with Natasha Nurse
Natasha Nurse is a seasoned educator with nearly two decades of experience, dedicated to transforming education and uplifting communities. She is currently a middle school STEM teacher, crafting innovative curricula that nurture curiosity and ignite student passions. Additionally, Natasha plays a pivotal role as Mentor Coordinator K-12, offering guidance to new teachers and pioneering a groundbreaking mentorship program (along with four amazing teachers) for high school students. Beyond the classroom, Natasha chairs the Long Beach Housing Authority, emphasizing community development. Her journey inspires both the education and community sectors.
Connect with Natasha:
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tnurselb/

Consistency Is The Catalyst

Connected Conversation with Todd Whitaker
My inspiring friend and mentor, Todd Whitaker, joins #PrincipalLinerNotes as my special guest. Todd is a longtime educator, coach, school leaders, university professor, and author of 60 books.
We chat about leadership, school culture, and The Beatles, of course.
Follow Todd on Social Media:
- X: https://twitter.com/ToddWhitaker
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toddwhitaker1/
- LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-whitaker-07773249/
- Website: http://www.toddwhitaker.com/

One More Masterpiece: “Now and Then” by The Beatles

Defying the Impossible: On the Last Beatles Song

Anticipating The Finale of The Beatles “Now & Then”
This is another movement in a mini-suite of episodes dedicated to the last Beatles song release.
In anticipation of the November 2nd release of "Now and Then" by The Beatles, I also share an event to celebrate that day.
Learn More about "Now and Then"-The Last Beatles Song Release Day Event on my Facebook Page: https://fb.me/e/1qgZkSlTJ
Follow on my Social Media Channels:
Order my book, #ThePepperEffect on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Effect-Creativity-Collaboration-Innovation/dp/194644488X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1528160056&sr=1-1&keywords=pepper+effect+prime
