This is the first of 4 supplemental episodes on the nature and existence of the human soul (i.e. substance dualism); this will be an general introduction to the series and provide an explanation as to what the Christian position of substance dualism is about.
Well folks, its finally here! Round 1 of the big showdown between Dale (Pro-Shroud) and his nemesis Alan (the Shroud skeptic). Quite obviously, Alan and I are not actually nemeses, we both have strong views on the evidence from the Shroud of Turin and we both passionately believe each other is wrong about it...
Barrie Schwortz if the foremost expert on the shroud. And we have him for an interview. Dale and Andrew pepper him with audience questions. Barrie is gracious and informative. David even pops in for a question of his own. No matter what you think about the shroud, you will want to listen to this one.
In Part 8, we finish our analysis of the traditional “Painting Hypothesis” as the image-forming mechanism of the Shroud of Turin (as advocated by Dr. Walter McCrone). I want you up front, this episode was not my favorite to do as it can get very technical at times (as is necessitated by the specific subject matter), so be aware this is heavier episode content wise and hence why I chose to separate this issue from Part 7 to be in a show by itself.
In Part 6 we will spend the first half of the show to lay out and describe what it means for an event (i.e. the formation of the Shroud’s images and their associated Minimal Relevant Features or MRF’s) to be “Extraordinary” (aka. fulfill Criterion B.) as part of my case for the Shroud evidence constituting a “G-Belief Authenticating Event”. Instead of moving on to assess the first image-forming mechanism (The “Painting Hypothesis”) we shall turn to address some of the listener Feedback that I’ve gotten on my Shroud series thus far and my response to some of that.
In Part 5 of our Shroud study, we will finish off discussion of the final two “Minimal Relevant Features” (MRF’s) which will be used in evaluating the various image-forming mechanisms in Criterion B (upcoming Podcasts). This episode, we look at some of the various anatomical accuracies and bloodstain features present on the Shroud Man’s images, while also surveying 7 Additional “MRF’s”. In addition, we tackle various Skeptical Counter-features related to these features as well as overall Counter-facts.
Lisa kicks us off with thoughts about African-American agnosticism. I wasn't really trying to spend 30 minutes talking about it. It just happened.
We got this amazing video from listener Even Davids:
Even points out the incongruity of evolution and Christianity. Sure, I spent an hour debating this with Dale. But Evan made his point and dropped the mic in 4 minutes. I'm not feeling inadequate or anything. But, DANG!
We had a couple more comments and a few new follows. Here is a link to some of the websites of those who follow this one:
A Measure of Faith
Confessions Of A YEC
Help Me Believe
This week, David dives into the mail bag. He finds an interesting set of missives from Joyce and Dale as they converse about the remaking of the doctrine of original sin. There is a surprise or two in there. You are going to want to listen to this one. Here are a couple of links mentioned in the podcast:
Dale explains the Shroud of Turin, and why it is an important part of his belief. This is part one. Part two has either already been posted, or is soon to follow. See the blog for extensive notes at skepticsandseekers.wordpress.com
This kicks off a week of bonus material as a way of saying thank you to the listeners.
Andrew, Matthew, David, and Dale get together to talk about David and Andrew’s appearance on Unbelievable. Matthew is one of the authors of the response book, “Still Unbelievable: why after listening to Christian arguments, we remain skeptics”
Dale agreed to be the official cat herder. As the resident (though not quite tamed) Christian, he had a few questions for the grilling. We rambled, we joked, we gave him a hard time. Then, we hit record. And it went downhill from there. Enjoy.
This week, Randal and I were a part of a panel discussing two books, one of which was coauthored by yours truly.
We got together since then and had a round two on a different topic. This is that conversation.
David makes a case that the Fall fails as a doctrine, bringing with it other sacred doctrines like original sin and redemption. Under any form of theistic evolution, there is no room for the Fall. Dale calls for Christian participation on this one.
Dale thinks the resurrection can prove Christianity, and only Christianity. Dale also thinks Christianity can borrow from Judaism in ways that other religions can't borrow from Christianity. Does he make his case?
No more Mr. nice guys. Dave and Dale argue for the best of their side and the worst of the other's. The discussion was so good, it couldn't be contained in one episode. So when you are done with this one, you can jump right into part 2. Enjoy.