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The SSI Orbit Podcast – Self-Sovereign Identity, Decentralization and Web3

The SSI Orbit Podcast – Self-Sovereign Identity, Decentralization and Web3

By Mathieu Glaude
Conversations with tech entrepreneur Mathieu Glaude and his guests, exploring the ever-growing ecosystems around Self-Sovereign Identity, Decentralized Technologies and Web3.
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#35 - How to Prevent SSI from Becoming Yet Another Platform? (with Joachim Lohkamp)
Joachim Lohkamp is the Founder & CEO of Jolocom, a Berlin-based company building decentralized digital identity and access right management solutions aimed to be universal, lightweight and based on open source protocols. One of the desired outcomes of using standards-driven open source code projects is to avoid vendor lock-in. If your digital identity is a public good, then you shouldn’t be locked in to one specific company. If a company goes out of business, I may lose my identity data. If I find a better alternative, I'm unable to port my identity. Therefore, interoperability is a vital aspect of being able to provide sovereignty to individuals but also to governments. Some of the key questions answered during this episode with Joachim are: What are the different lenses of Interoperability outside of simply technological ones? What is happening inside the EU's digital identity governance frameworks? How to go about preventing vendor/network lock-ins from the wallet perspective? Does ID proofing impact the ability to achieve permissionless SSI models? What is exciting about the intersection of SSI and web3, and are innovations in this area moving quicker than other areas? Despite the misuse of NFTs for identity-related use cases, are they still helping advance decentralized identity thinking? What learnings can SSI wallet providers gain from crypto wallet providers (e.g., security, key management, UX)? Will intelligent agent providers need to make their algorithms open sourced? Where do portable digital identities fit within the existent and ever changing digital identity landscape (e.g., e-sign, biometrics, IAM, etc.)? And more! Where to find Joachim? LinkedIn: Twitter: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
April 08, 2022
#34 - Fighting Financial Crime with Digital ID (with Eugenio DiMira)
Eugenio (Gene) is an industry go-to person in the fight against proceeds of crime, corruption and terrorism (AML/ATF/ABC) within the investments, banking and insurance industries. Laws against money laundering were created to use against organized crime during the period of Prohibition in the United States during the 1930s. Organized crime received a major boost from Prohibition and a large source of new funds that were obtained from illegal sales of alcohol. The successful prosecution of Al Capone on tax evasion brought in a new emphasis by the state and law enforcement agencies to track and confiscate money, but existing laws against tax evasion could not be used once gangsters started paying their taxes. “Always follow the money” has been sound advice in law enforcement and political circles for decades. Nevertheless, tracking the flows of illicit funds generated by drug trafficking and organized crime and analyzing the magnitude and the extent to which these are laundered through the world’s financial systems remain daunting tasks. Can Digital ID come to the rescue? This episode covers the intersections of Digital ID, AML and Open Banking. Some of the key questions answered are: What’s the global impact of money laundering today? How can Digital ID help prevent illicit financial flows? How can technology (e.g., device fingerprinting) make anti-money laundering and counter terrorist financing efforts faster, cheaper and more efficient? What is the Financial Action Task Force's (FATF) Digital ID guidance? How can you layer multiple sources of identity (outside of government sources) to enhance Identification Assurance? How can you prevent money laundering through stronger Legal Entity Identity verifications? Can open banking succeed without Digital Identity? Are open banking and digital identity the same thing? What are some of the key Open Banking standards bodies that are active today? Does Open Banking make money laundering easier or more difficult? And more! Where to find Eugenio? LinkedIn: Twitter: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
March 14, 2022
#33 - What should Public Infrastructure look like in the Modern Data Economy? (with Andy Best)
Andy Best is the CEO of the Civic Digital Network (CDN), a non-profit organization working to create national data infrastructure. CDN’s mission is to give the public sector the tools to meet the challenges of the coming century. How do you enable responsible economic activity in the current digital era? What is the government's proper role to facilitate, regulate and legislate to create the maximum social and economic public and private good. During this conversation, we discuss: What are Intangible Assets, the Intangible Economy - and why leaders should care about them? How do you approach Policy around Public Data Institutions, without making them too restrictive which can have negative impacts on private sector innovation? Why Policy Makers must look at Intangible Assets (such as software and data) very differently than Tangible Assets (roads and bridges). How to ensure the Right Controls are put in place for Public Data Utility programs? Why taking a Use Case Lens in the deployment of Public Infrastructure programs is the only approach. How Municipalities who adopt the right public data programs can increase the prosperity of their citizens. Why Government should view Standards as part of their Regulatory Frameworks. And more! Note that although this conversation is mostly framed around Canadian context, the key fundamental frameworks discussed are applicable across various democratic systems. Where to find Andy? LinkedIn: Website: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
February 19, 2022
#32 - Is the Trust Triangle a Good Enough Model for Ecosystem Design? (with Antti Kettunen)
Antti Kettunen is a digital identity and digital trust expert and advisor. He designs ecosystem solutions, actively participates in standards and industry groups (e.g. CEN, Trust over IP, Mobey), and helps customers deliver value in their digital identity projects. He also writes and speaks about digital identity and the ongoing paradigm shift in his blog Identifinity. Antti is also one of the co-founders and advocates of the FindyNet cooperative, a digital identity network for Finland. About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: The current digital landscape in the Nordics, the maturity of e-Government and digital registries, and the trust that citizens of these countries have towards their governments. How does the private sector in the Nordics look at self-sovereign identity? Where do they see the benefits? How do they look at the onramp from their existing federated authentication models? Knowing where my organization fits inside my value chain and why knowing this will help me understand how to both benefit, contribute and thrive within an ecosystem-centric system. How to decide whether or not to participate in the governance of an ecosystem? The problems with API-centered architectures and the benefits gained from adopting data-centric architectures. Why focusing too much on the Verifiable Credential Trust Triangle isn't sufficient as the only tool to help with the adoption of SSI ecosystems. An update on the EU Wallet and some thoughts on how it can spur SSI adoption, while looking at the risks of it possibly impeding private sector adoption. And more! For those interested, this is the book that Antti refers to during the conversation: Where to find Antti? Twitter: LinkedIn: Blog: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
February 10, 2022
#31 - The Future of Work will happen through DAOs (with Stepan Gershuni)
Stepan Gershuni is working towards making it easier for DAOs to onboard talent through Professional ID credentials. There is an oversupply of talent looking to join DAOs and Stepan is trying to help them manage their excess talent pools and onboard people faster.  About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: Where are the opportunities to apply SSI principles and frameworks towards DAOs? How do you decentralize hiring, education, and the coordination of work. Are .eth good or bad identifiers? Are .eth names and decentralized identifiers (DIDs) mutually exclusive? How can the decentralized discovery of professional skills happen? And more! About Guest Stepan Gershuni is the Lead Product Manager at Affinidi, Founder of Credentia and Deep Skills.  Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
January 23, 2022
#30 - The Ingredients for Commercial SSI (with Charles Walton)
- Governance Orchestrators - The orchestrating required to bring together decentralized identity ecosystems is today's biggest gap for Commercial SSI. By this I mean the Trust over IP Level 4 governance authorities that are required to make something commercially real. We have the approaches, the principles, the technologies and the standards down. There is also clear market demand for data ownership and privacy-preserving digital interactions. We've have also seen great enhancements on mobile devices for authentication methods such as biometrics and continuous authentication. So the question is: how we make decentralized identity more of a reality in our day-to-day lives? How can we create a place in which a bank, a gig economy company or a start-up can all simply plug-in and begin using verifiable credentials? There is a glaring need for Commercial SSI Governance Authorities. As we know, half of the battle in decentralized identity, especially in government regulated industries, is governance. We require governance entities to help in the formation of ecosystems, the setting of rules, the making of markets, the monetization strategies, the dispute strategies, etc. More entities are required to manage the bits of a trust framework that are commercial decisions. About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: Charlie's learnings from the Trust over IP Foundation and the Good Health Pass Collaborative Thinking about the Governance of Decentralized Networks The opportunity for Vertical Market Makers Digital Smart Agents - the smart processing of wallets and storage Commercial SSI Governance Authorities About Guest Charlie has been a thought leader in the digital identity space for many years now, having spent time across organizations such as: SecureKey - helping secure key Canadian market customer and partner relationships, and key strategic partner engagements, and $21M Series C funding closed in December 2014. Idemia - driving the Government Identity Services cross division activities in the field of digital identity services. MasterCard - responsible for the strategy, definition, and rollout of a major new global business within MasterCard focused upon digital identity services – this the ID Service. Whilst at MasterCard he was a co-founder and on the steering board of both the Trust over IP Foundation and the Good Health Pass Collaborative. Now with Avast, Charlie is responsible for developing their identity services strategy as the company expands its expertise and innovation in privacy and identity products. You can find Charlie on LinkedIn here: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:  LinkedIn:
December 22, 2021
#29 - Musings on Wallets & Identity Metasystems (with Phil Windley)
- Thinking in a decentralized architecture - We have a tendency to apply existing solutions or frameworks towards new things. In the early days of the web, many companies implemented fax on the Internet, rather than rethinking if faxes were still the best solution for certain types of information exchange. Are we doing the same thing today with wallets? Wallets are a tool which we employ to store physical identity cards, credit/debit cards, receipts and other things. But when we think about storing digital identities/credentials, of course employing a wallet sounds like an appropriate thing to do, considering it's what works as the physical world. I wonder however if framing it as a digital wallet boxes our thinking. A second tendency we have, specifically in the digital identity space (and I'm guilty of this at times..), is to look at things as layers or foundations. I often hear phrases such as: "Government issued digital identities will form the foundation for [insert use case]." Rather than looking at it as something foundational, we should try framing our thinking around a decentralized architecture. Read more here: About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: SSI Wallets - what can be learned from the Web Browser? How will SSI Wallets be adopted? - Will we have very few or many wallets? Distinguishing identity systems from Identity Metasystems. How can governments best contribute to Identity Metasystems? Phil’s thoughts on Open ID SIOP (self-issued IDs). About Guest Phil enjoys teaching, writing, and solving problems. He writes content on, elegantly covering topics such as information technology, identity, decentralization, personal autonomy, computer science and more. You can find Phil on Twitter here:; and on LinkedIn here: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:  LinkedIn:
December 05, 2021
#28 - Turning the Web’s Data Layer into a Public Utility (with Lauren Feld)
- Filling holes in the web3 stack - This was a very fun and interesting conversation with Lauren Feld, Head of Growth at 3Box Labs, a company building the Ceramic Network. The Ceramic Network in my opinion is one the most exciting projects in the web3 space. Ceramic is a decentralized, open source platform for creating, hosting, and sharing streams of data. This is interesting to consider in a decentralized identity context. As we all know, we leave massive traces of ourselves in the digital world. The products that have enabled user generated content in the web2 world have dramatically increased the volume of data we leave behind. If this data is valuable, which social media companies can attest is true, then how could this data be returned to the rightful generator/owner of it,. How can it also be made portable across different applications? On this podcast we often talk about Verifiable Credentials and recently a bit more about government issued digital IDs. I hope this conversation gives listeners some excitement about what’s now being made possible with some exciting bottom-up approaches and how turning the data layer of applications into a public utility is the logical evolution of the web. About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: What excites Lauren about web3 applications? What is the pulse on DAOs to incorporate Decentralized ID into them? The importance of Mutability An overview of Decentralized Data Storage Ecosystems, in particular IPFS, one of first protocols in the web3 space What makes Data Composability important for open data layers? How to go about building Distributed Data Models? Key considerations when Selling to Developers rather than to enterprises How to think about Verifiable Credentials in a context of your online data Some Exciting Use Cases happening using Ceramic (you can find more use cases here: Can older business models use Ceramic to decentralize their data layer? About Guest Lauren Feld, Head of Growth 3Box Labs, building The Ceramic Network You can find Lauren on Twitter here:; and on LinkedIn here: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
November 19, 2021
#27 - Non-binary Thinking will Accelerate Digital Sovereignty (with Rouven Heck)
About Episode - Progress is often slowed down because of binary thinking. This type of behaviour sometimes happens within the self-sovereign identity world: “Such protocol is good, such protocol is bad”; “Such community is good, such community is bad.” During this conversation, we discuss: Digital Sovereignty - operating in the digital world (or metaverse), with an emphasis on Government’s role in the digital world. Why organizations such as Mozilla, Google, Apple recently objected to the W3C decentralized identifiers standards - does this go against the independence of people? Does it have to do with energy consumption of proof-of-work blockchains? Deciphering Interoperability - there's a need to focus more of the conversations around portability. Rouven provides some easy to understand examples. What’s happening in the DIF and what are some of the cross-community collaborations Overviewing Top-down and Bottom-up approaches - the differences in governance,  the importance of reputation, opening up portable reputations from siloed spaces. What to control and what not to? Where do I fit into a Decentralized ID ecosystem? Some examples of services offerings, including how financial institutions can create new value offerings. Verified vs Verifiable - why these two words are fundamentally different and how they sometimes wrongly used. About Guest Rouven Heck is the Identity Lead @ ConsenSys Mesh and the Executive Director @ Decentralized Identity Foundation Prior to joining ConsenSys, Rouven had a number of positions at Deutsche Bank working as a Blockchain Expert, COO, Program Manager, and Service manager. You can find Rouven on Twitter here:; and on LinkedIn here: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
October 31, 2021
#26 - Battle of the Trust Frameworks (with Tim Bouma & Darrell O'Donnell)
About Episode - Every week there seems to be mention of a new Trust Framework. People are now trying to monetize them. But to understand trust frameworks, let’s first understand what constitutes trust. We must define concepts such as levels of assurances and what defines technical vs human trust? Once this is better understood, the conversation about where a particular organization fits into a digital identity ecosystem is simpler. And note, in user-centric digital identity (or SSI), organizations no longer need to be at the centre of the universe. During this conversation, we discuss: Levels of Assurance (LOA): an introduction to LOAs as they relate to Digital Identity and why they're an important part of the recipe in achieving digital trust. Tim and Darrell give us some practical examples of LOAs. The Concept of Trust: how do we define trust at a high-level and how do we differentiate between technical and human trust? How can we build trust with credential issuers but also with credential holders? The World of Trust Frameworks: what are trust frameworks and what are different types of frameworks being deployed in both the public and private sectors? How are organizations trying to monetize trust frameworks? What's going right, and what's going wrong with the way trust frameworks are being implemented? The Importance of Open Source for Trust Creation: why is open source important for achieving digital sovereignty? Is open source the only way to improve transparency, flexibility and accountability? Mentions during episode: Dee Hock: his book & his Twitter account Link to episode with John Ainsworth, where we talk about Dee and payment processors such as Visa UK's guidance on open source About Guests Tim Bouma is  Senior Policy Analyst for Identity Management at Treasury Board Secretariat of the Government of Canada. My mandate is to develop a government-wide identity management strategy that spans across the service delivery and security communities. You can find Tim here on Twitter here:; and on LinkedIn here: -- Darrell O'Donnell is a technology company founder, executive, investor, and advisor. He’s on a mission to help organizations build and deploy real-world decentralized (#SSI) solutions. He advises numerous startups, senior government leaders, and investors. You can find Darrell here on Twitter here:; and on LinkedIn here: -- Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
October 13, 2021
#25 - IDunion: Germany’s Bold SSI Strategy, with Hakan Yildiz
About Episode - What use cases should a National Digital Identity program prioritize in collaboration with the private sector? As use cases become verticals of their own, what are then some of the horizontal considerations that need to be applied to enable all of the use cases to function within their relative ecosystems? Hakan Yildiz can help us answer these questions being that he’s a Research Associate at TU Berlin and a Consortium Partner at IDunion. During this conversation, we discuss: IDunion 101: a general overview, what are some of the early credentials being issued by government (people and legal entity VCs) and some of the existing ecosystem participants IDunion Use Cases (Verticals): what are some of the government use cases (eHealth, eGov and Education)? What are some of the private sector use cases (Financial, Hospitality, IAM)? IDunion Workstreams (Horizontals): governance, cybersecurity, wallet security, UX, interoperability and more. About Guest Hakan Yildiz is a Research Associate at TU Berlin and a Consortium Partner at IDunion. He’s a seasoned product manager with experience in every product life cycle for B2B and B2C products. Hakan is a SME in Blockchain, Distributed-Ledger Technology (DLT) and Self-Sovereign Identity (SSI). You can find Hakan on LinkedIn here: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
October 04, 2021
#24 - Wallet-Mania (with Mike Vesey, Dev Bharel, Adrian Doerk, RJ Reiser and Michael Boyd)
About Episode - This episode features a live recording of an Indicio community event. Digital Wallets are taking off! OS operators such as Apple are starting to support open standards for digital credentials (here). Technology disruptors (like the companies represented in this episode) are taking wallet solutions to market (here). This objective of this discussion is not to take a deep dive from a technical perspective, but more from an adoption standpoint. During this conversation, we discuss: An introduction to SSI and the role of Digital Wallets How does one go about building digital wallets? (UX and various other considerations) What are some promising Use Cases for Digital Wallets Live answering of questions from attendees About Guests Mike Vesey, President, IdRamp Dev Bharel, Product Owner and Software Architect, Globalid Adrian Doerk, Business Development Manager, Lissi R.J. Reiser, Chief Business Development Officer, Liquid Avatar Michael Boyd, Chief Product Officer & Co-founder, Trinsic
September 24, 2021
#23 - Creating Social Inclusion Opportunities for African Youth with Lohan Spies
About Episode - Yoma is a youth marketplace that is incubated by UNICEF in Africa.  It enables youth to Learn (through Yoma learning partners), Earn (through employers in the ecosystem) and Thrive by completing Impact challenges (e.g., plastic clean-up, reforestation) that benefit our environment and communities.  All of this is enabled through a SSI-enabled digital CV and personalized learning environment. During this conversation, we discuss: An overview of Foundational Government Identity in Africa How Yoma creates Digital IDs, Digital Verifiable VCs and a Skills Backpack for Youth Yoma's approach at both global and local Governance Frameworks Building the Yoma Ecosystem, by onboarding both demand and supply side participants to the table What the future holds for Specialized, Intelligent Agents How technology can be used to further the Impact Economy About Guest Lohan Spies is the Founder & CEO of DIDx, a South African company focused on self-sovereign identity. Lohan is thought leader in decentralized identity and well tapped into the pulse on the African continent. DIDx is also a founding steward of the Sovrin Network. Lohan also acts as the technical lead for the Yoma Foundation, a UNICEF organization that is using SSI to empower African youth to learn, earn and create impact. Follow Lohan Spies  LinkedIn: Twitter: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
September 14, 2021
#22 - Why Are Governments Choosing Hyperledger? - with Timo Glastra
About Episode - During this podcast, we try to answer the question: ‘Why Are Governments Choosing Hyperledger?’. Timo Glastra is one of three founders of Animo Solutions. At just 23 years old he has built up an extensive expertise on the implementation of open standards in the field of self-sovereign identity. Timo is well positioned from an open standard and open technology standpoint to help us answer this question. During this conversation, we discuss Open Data Standards (W3C's DID & VC Standards) Open Tech Standards (Hyperledger Aries, Indy, Ursa) Achieving W3C-Compliance on Aries and Indy Challenges and Advancements to Achieve Interoperability Aries Framework JavaScript: The Swiss-Army Knife for Modern SSI Development Open Source & eSSIF About Guest Timo is a dedicated software developer, and an ardent believer in open source work. With Animo, Timo is working on the interoperability of open-source self-sovereign identity infrastructure and aiming to give people full control over their own digital interactions.Advisor on Digital Identification, German Chancellery Follow Timo Glastra Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
September 06, 2021
#21 - The Roles of Government & The Private Sector in a Digital ID Program with Sebastian Manhart
About Episode - Why not take the best practices from a real world National Digital ID ecosystem that is live and thriving? In today’s episode, we dive into what’s happening within the Digital ID landscape within Europe. Sebastian Manhart is very well positioned between policy and technology in the European Union. In this episode of SSI Orbit, he shares his experiences and future projections. During this conversation, we discuss How it all started: Estonia’s 2014 Digital ID program What’s happening in SSI within Germany today - how Germany moved from being a tech laggard to an innovator within 1 year The recent Germany & Spain announcement How the Public and Private sector need to work together to achieve adoption of SSI Does overregulation kill technology progress? How are EU countries working around that? Regulations in EU that are important for Digital ID (eIDAS, EBSI, GDPR) The Digital Wallet Landscape and future projections About Guest Sebastian is an expert in the field of Digital Identity and has advised nonprofits, businesses, and governments on how to design, implement, and scale identity programmes. Advisor on Digital Identification, German Chancellery Technical Consultant on Identification for Development, World Bank Advisor on Public Affairs, Univercells Advisor on Digital Identity, Ethics, and Risk, ID2020 Follow Sebastian Manhart Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter:   LinkedIn:
August 13, 2021
#20 - DeFi vs TradFi, with Sandra Ro CEO of the GBBC
About Episode - As we continue diving into use cases for self-sovereign identity, we spend some more time in the Web3 space. Sandra Ro has been working in the Decentralized Finance (DeFi) space since 2011. She also has an extensive background working in Traditional Finance (TradFi) in FX, Derivative trading and more. Since 2018, Sandra has held the position of CEO of the Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC), a Swiss non-profit focusing on education, advocacy & partnership across over 40 countries. During this conversation, we discuss Sandra’s background and getting into bitcoin futures | how banks interacted with crypto then (2011) vs today (2021) vs tomorrow (3000) The excitement and movement around DAOs The beauty of Open Source in Web3 Everything Digital Payments: CBDCs, Stablecoins, DeFi | also the intersection of these together and with Digital ID Big societal trends – the separation of money from state, and the separation of identity from state Why technology innovation lags and costs keep rising in sectors with lots of government regulation & intervention. Specifically in sectors such as healthcare, education, real estate An important component in the Web3 stack: Decentralized Storage What’s happening in the GBBC, and specifically in the GBBC Digital ID working group About Guest Follow Sandra Ro Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
August 04, 2021
#19 - A Legal Perspective on Data Privacy & Digital ID with Chetan Phull
Chetan Phull is a fellow colleague of mine from the Toronto blockchain scene. Chetan is a technology and data management lawyer at Deloitte Legal. His legal experience includes complex multidisciplinary mandates in privacy/cybersecurity, blockchain/cryptocurrency, technology audits, FinTech regulatory advocacy, and SaaS contracts. Chetan’s publications include Big Data Law in Canada, and numerous compilations and articles on blockchain and virtual asset regulation, spanning securities, commercial transactions, banking, taxation, digital asset litigation, and decentralized liability. About Episode Breaking down privacy from a legal perspective How entrepreneurs should look at complying with global data privacy laws when deploying global software History of data privacy laws like the GDPR, EU’s leadership, and how the rest of world follow’s European footsteps The right of erasure’s effect on data ownership and control The right of erasure with blockchains, being immutable ledgers Will data privacy laws get more complex than today? What’s happening on the Digital ID reg front? Pseudonymity and decentralized protocols from a legal perspective Examining Cybersecurity’s intersection with Digital ID Follow Chetan Phull Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
July 29, 2021
#18 - Decentralized Protocols x CBDCs: a Bank’s Worst Nightmare? - with James Loperfido
About Episode - Where might revenues disappear from banks in the short-term? What about in the long-term? What efficiencies can be gained from decentralized protocols. Why Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) may disinter-mediate some banking functions? To talk through the above, I welcome my good friend James Loperfido, Director of Business Development at Tangem AG. In this episode, We open with James’ background and knowledge of Wall Street and Finance. We discuss the history of banking, banking today, and how banking is being threatened by web3/P2P networks. We talk about the core efficiencies of blockchain networks with smart contracts. We introduce Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), discuss where the competition is globally, and again how banks could get disinter-mediated by them. About Guest James Loperfido currently serves as Director of Business Development at the Swiss digital asset infrastructure company Tangem AG, manages digital asset investments, and acts as a general consultant in the blockchain space. Tangem develops software, firmware, and smart card solutions for digital money, identity, and anti-counterfeit use cases. Previously, James served as VP of Business Development for Soramitsu, which launched one of the first successful pilots for a CBDC retail payment network based on DLT infrastructure as well as critical cryptocurrency software and open-source frameworks. Previously, James founded world renown businesses in the wellness space in New York City and worked in early stage tech start-ups focused on decentralized and frontier technologies. He spent his first two years after graduating from the Villanova School of Business on a high yield bond trading desk at Imperial Capital leveraging academic interests in finance and international economics. He testified as a blockchain technology expert on the New York Privacy Act and serves as a Co-Chair for the Global Blockchain Business Council's Digital Identity Working Group. James was born and resides in New York City and Florida. He has entrepreneurial expertise in international business development, DLT frameworks, capital markets, digital asset infrastructure, team building, and sales and marketing. Follow James Loperfido Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
July 19, 2021
#17 - Token Economics for Self-Sovereign Identity Ecosystems with Fraser Edwards
About Episode - I sit down with Fraser Edwards, CEO of Verim, a company building a #SSI Digital Credentials Network on Cosmos to create commercial viability via tokenized incentives. Prior to Verim, Fraser has worked across technologies and industries internationally, specializing in decentralized identity, blockchain-based payments and FinTech. 2021.08.04 - Note that since the recording of this podcast, Verim has rebranded to cheqd. During this conversation, we discuss: The Known Traveller Digital Identity (KTDI) project How SSI will become commercially viable in various business use cases through tokenized incentives The learnings from failed blockchain deployments that can be applied towards SSI commercialization Why Verim chose Cosmos Why approaching SSI through crypto/DeFi is so exciting And much more! About Guest Follow Fraser Edwards Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
July 08, 2021
#16 - How DAOs Benefit from Self-Sovereign Identity (w. Stepan Gershuni)
About Episode In this conversation, I sit down with Stepan Gershuni for the second time on this pod, the first time being in Episode 9 when we talked about the Economics of Self-Sovereign Identity. If you haven’t listened to that one I suggest you do as it was a very interesting conversation that looked into how SSI can be applied to paper based and web2 models, and then dove a bit into web3. This conversation is more focused on the impact of SSI on web3, where the main conversation point is around DAOs (which is an acronym for decentralized autonomous organizations). A DAO is the web3 version of a company or a community. Think of it this way, if an NFT represents a piece of digital media, a DAO represents a whole media company. In the conversation, we discuss: What are DAOs? How DAOs are the next logical evolution of coordination mechanisms for communities & companies. How DAOs are really just a mix of Decentralized ID + Reputation. How the adoption of Verifiable Credentials with DAOs and open protocols can take off very quick within the next year. How a DAO can be an Issuer/Verifier of Verifiable Credentials. The need for decentralized reputation mechanisms and trust scores. About Guest Stepan Gershuni is the Lead Product Manager at Affinidi, Founder of Credentia (SSI for education in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan) and also as a hobby runs the Crypto-economics Research Group, a meetup for all things decentralized/web3. Follow Stepan Gershuni Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
July 02, 2021
#15 - Social KYC, an Alternate Form of Identity Verification for Web3, with Ingo Rübe
About Episode In this conversation we discuss, Why the common saying ‘data is the new oil’ is false? Alternative forms of identity verification for the web The Social KYC product Use cases in the Gaming industry and why gaming is poised to become early adopters of SSI Identity In Web3 The KILT protocol (permissionless blockchain as a root of trust) The Value flow in a decentralized identity model Use cases for VCs such as Ratings/Reputation in the DeFi space About Guest Ingo Rübe is the Founder & CEO of @KILTProtocol. KILT is a blockchain protocol for issuing self-sovereign, anonymous, verifiable credentials. They're part of the @kusamanetwork and @polkadot ecosystem. Ingo is an experienced Founder and Manager with a demonstrated history of working in the media production industry. Follow Ingo Rübe Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
June 17, 2021
#14 - The Inevitable Shift towards Data-Centric Architectures with Brian Platz
Mathieu chats with Brian, Co-CEO of Fluree, an open-source platform for data ecosystems. The conversation covers data-centric architecture designs, and why organizations should look to move away from application-centric designs. If you don't consider doing so, macro trends around data privacy laws are driving us towards data centric models anyways. May as well get ahead of the curve and gain competitive advantages from data-centricity today! About Episode In this conversation, Brian and I discuss: What is data centricity and why do organizations need to shift away from application-centricity to data centricity? How to think about data centric architecture designs. The macro drivers for data centricity (regulatory privacy laws and cost / risk benefits). Why organizations don't need to own all of the data they consume. About Fluree's Semantic Graph technology. How Verifiable Credentials enable better data-centric use cases. Business use cases of Semantic Graph technology. The benefits of being a Public Benefit Corp. About Guest Brian is the Co-CEO and Co-Chairman of Fluree, an open-source platform for data ecosystems. Brian serves on the board of directors for Fuel 50, one of the highest growth HR technology startups. He is also the co-founder of A List Apart, a web publication, 22 book series, and global conference for the web development community to expand their knowledge. Follow Brian Platz Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
June 10, 2021
#13 - How Credit Unions are Using Verifiable Credentials to Engage with Members
Learn how Bonifii is using Verifiable Credentials as a Digital Transformation mechanism for Credit Unions to Increase Engagement with their Members. John Ainsworth explains how they are revolutionizing how Credit Unions say “hello” to a member. About Episode During this conversation, we discuss: Learnings from Visa regarding forming organizations based on decentralized governance structures and cooperative models. How Bonifii is using Verifiable Credentials as a digital transformation mechanism for Credit Unions to increase engagement with their Members The downstream impact of omnichannel authentication with verifiable credentials to reduce back office call center fraud Memberpass - revolutionizing how Credit Unions say “hello” to a member. Using CU Membership Credentials within a broader ecosystem. CUFX - the newly acquired Boniffi organization which develops highly efficient systems integration standards that connects applications (e.g., online banking, lending, IVR) to core processing systems. About Guest John Ainsworth serves as President and Chief Executive Officer for Bonifii, a company delivering a trusted peer-to-peer services network of verifiable exchange for financial cooperatives. As President and CEO, Mr. Ainsworth brings his wide breadth of expertise to guide Bonifii’s vision of creating and branding innovative and game-changing applications on a globally distributed ledger platform for credit unions. Along with his executive team, John focuses on the company’s capitalization, industry relationships, and corporate development. Ainsworth comes to Bonifii from MasterCard where he was Executive Vice President of North America Markets, responsible for managing the independent bank and credit union segments. Follow John Ainsworth Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
May 27, 2021
#12 - SSI for NFTs, Offline and Connectionless Use Cases, NFC Chip Cards and More with Caspar Roelofs
This episode is an acronym special! NFTs, NFC and SSI! Great conversation with the Founder of Gimly Projects, Caspar Roelofs. About Episode We discuss Caspar’s PHD research background in biomedical science Using physical cards as a cryptographic store for private keys and verifiable credentials, and then transacting via NFC.  We discuss various use cases of verifiable credentials using NFC such as offline and connectionless use cases. We discuss NFTS, and if SSI can perhaps help increase the value of a community created NFT by ensuring the proof of ownership or creation at time of minting. We also briefly touch upon SSI use cases for decentralized finance, often referred to as DeFi, towards the end of the conversation Gimly is hiring! See links below: About Guest Caspar helps clients understand and leverage blockchain technology for their business needs. Combining my expertise in blockchain technology, and my experience in science, technology and innovation research, I bring value to clients in blockchain education, concept and technology development, and business development. Development of NFC and blockchain authentication solutions Decentralized identity and Self-sovereign identity (SSI) solutions. Supply Chain, IoT, and Blockchain solutions. Gimly Blockchain Projects and Partnerships* “When considering disruptive technologies – such as blockchain technology, artificial intelligence, and Internet of Things (IoT) – I have learned to appreciate the importance of understanding the context of innovation. Understanding the drivers, interests, and values of stakeholders, and accounting for economic, social, and political realities are essential in creating solutions that matter.” Follow Caspar Roelofs Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Read the full podcast transcription on the Northern Block blog here:
May 20, 2021
#11 - Trust over IP Foundation 101 with John Jordan, Karl Kneis, André Kudra, Scott Perry and Paul Knowles
The Trust over IP Foundation’s mission is to: “Define a complete architecture for Internet-scale digital trust that combines cryptographic trust at the machine layer with human trust at the business, legal, and social layers.” About Episode Part 1 - Introduction to the ToIP (starts at 01:50) Digital Trust Primer The History of Credentials: the Paper credential era, the Credential Trust triangle, the Governance Trust triangle The Internet Era and the Trust Gap New era of digital trust, back to the future with digital credentials The mission of the Trust over IP Foundation? What is the dual-stack architecture? Part 2 - Working Groups: Activities, Deliverables and Collaborations (starts at 32:20) Brief Introductions - why are you interested in the ToIP and what background/expertise do you bring to the foundation? Discussing the different types of Working Groups Collaborations within the ToIP Selling to C-Level executives Digital Trust Ecosystems How the ToIP has evolved in its first year? The disruption of moving away from APIs through agents and communication protocols --- About Guests Follow John Jordan --> Twitter | LinkedIn Follow Karl Kneis --> LinkedIn Follow André Kudra --> Twitter | LinkedIn Follow Scott Perry --> Twitter | LinkedIn Follow Paul Knowles --> Twitter | LinkedIn Follow Mathieu Glaude --> Twitter | LinkedIn Read the full podcast transcription on the Northern Block blog here:
May 06, 2021
#10 - Building Digital Trust Ecosystems with Riley Hughes
About Episode During this conversation, we discuss How Riley got into SSI through Sovrin and how he continued his journey by founding Trinsic The focus on making trust ecosystem development easy - A trust ecosystem needs three things to be successful: (1) interoperable technology, (2) trustworthy governance, and (3) tools for adoption. Trinsic Ecosystems is designed to provide these three components in a fully-integrated, programmatic platform, built specifically for providers. If ‘Self-Sovereign Identity’ has an identity problem How to sell the value of SSI to enterprises and ecosystem solution providers The two ways to overcome the chicken and egg problem that exists when starting a verifiable credential market, to achieve network of network effects About Guest In this episode of SSI Orbit, I sit down with Riley Hughes. Riley is a leader in the self-sovereign identity (SSI) community. As the second employee hired at the Sovrin Foundation, Riley established and contributed towards several teams, such as the Sovrin Governance Working Group and helped set up the Sovrin Steward Program. He started Trinsic to make implementing decentralized identity easy for developers and is now working with many organizations around the world to bring SSI-based solutions to market. Follow Riley Hughes Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Read the full podcast transcription on the Northern Block blog here:
April 29, 2021
#9 - Economics of Self-Sovereign Identity and the Future of Cryptoeconomics with Stepan Gershuni
During this conversation, we discuss The history and business models of each evolution of the internet to-date: Web 1.0 - Web 2.0 - Web 3.0; How web3 might require a regulatory protocol layer; The different ways for SSI to gain adoption: (1) through adoption by web 2.0 companies, and (2) by building new models from scratch to displace Web 2.0 companies; How economic inefficiencies can be used to create business use cases and propel the adoption of SSI as a better way of doing things; How we can use SSI to create completely new paradigms that are unimaginable today with the business models and social landscape we know; How Cryptoeconomics can be used to increase the value of Verifiable Credentials within a decentralized ecosystem; What are Pipe vs Platform business models and where does SSI fits in. -- Stepan Gershuni is the Lead Product Manager at Affinidi, Founder of Credentia (SSI for education in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan) and also as a hobby runs the Crypto-economics Research Group, a meetup for all things decentralized/web3. Follow Stepan Gershuni Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn:
April 15, 2021
#8 - IIW 32 Preview: What to Expect from the Next Internet Identity Workshop with Kaliya Young
** Listeners of the SSI Orbit Podcast can use this special discount code for 20% off their IIW32 ticket purchase: ‘SSIOrbit_XXXII_20’. Apply the code to your purchase here: ** In today’ conversation, I welcome Kaliya Young, often referred to as Identity Woman, for a Sneak Peak on what to expect from IIW 32, the 32nd Internet Identity Workshop, which will be hosted virtually. For over 15 years, it has been the premier place to bring together the largest concentration of talent dedicated to designing and building identity systems that empower individuals. Kaliya is an internationally recognized expert in Self-Sovereign or Decentralized Digital Identity, and a Co-Founder and Co-Producer of this event with Doc Searls and Phil Windley. Since its inception she has been the main Designer and Facilitator of IIW. The semi-annual event has been key to fostering innovation, collaboration and adoption of user-centric identity technologies. During this conversation dedicated to the Internet Identity Workshop (IIW) with Kaliya “IdentityWoman” Young, we discuss: What’s taking up most of Kaliya’s time nowadays between her role as the Ecosystem Director for the Covid-19 Credentials Initiative and leading the Interoperability Task Force of the Good Health Pass Initiative; How the Digital ID Space has innovated and evolved through IIW through the past 15 years; What to expect from this year’s first IIW; How Verifiable Credential Tech can end the way ID Proofing is done today and drastically improve authentication and security techniques such as 2FA and security tokens; How Health credentials have been approached from a governance and interoperability perspective; How BBS+ is exciting for real interoperability; The impact of culture on the adoption of Self-Sovereign Identity. Again, listeners of this podcast who haven’t registered yet for IIW, or maybe are on the fence about registering, can get a 20% discount by applying this discount code → ‘SSIOrbit_XXXII_20’ to your purchase here: I look forward to seeing you all there. --- Here is her newsletter I recommend you subscribe to for detailed weekly updates on the decentralized identity community: This is the paper Kaliya referenced early on in the conversation about interoperability: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
April 13, 2021
#7 - Patient-Centric Identity Management for Healthcare with Jim St-Clair from the Lumedic Exchange
During this conversation about Patient-Centric Identity Management for Healthcare, we discuss: Jim’s vast experience and expertise in healthcare IT and today’s leading standards that healthcare operators must follow when dealing with patient health data; The patient era, the next evolution of healthcare, and how the work happening at the Lumedic Exchange is enabling this. The Lumedic Exchange is exciting as it’s an open ecosystem for collaboration around patient-centric health advancements and they’re working on developing trust frameworks for this decentralized model, and much more through various working groups they host; Lumedic Connect, the toolkits to enable these processes to use Verifiable Credentials; Link to the Patient Era illustration we refer to a couple times throughout the episode: -- As the Chief Trust Officer for the Lumedic Exchange, the first internationally available patient-centric data exchange platform, Jim leads the development and harmonization of W3C verifiable credential data standards across healthcare and identity use cases. Additionally, as part of Tegria, a services and solutions company launched by Providence, one of the nation’s largest health systems, Jim joins Providence leaders directly contributing to HL7 project teams. Jim works closely to identify opportunities to leverage new developments in data standards and contribute technical advancements back to HL7, ISO, and IEEE standards development. Given the dramatic changes in technology and healthcare delivery, Jim previously founded the Institute for Healthcare Financial Technology, which upon inception will be a non-profit organization dedicated to improving the healthcare value chain to reduce costs and streamline access and delivery of healthcare. IHFT builds on the innovations of financial, insurance and healthcare technology, especially in such concepts as distributed ledgers, blockchain, Robotic Process Automation (RPA) and Artificial Intelligence (AI). Jim is a 2019 and 2020 FedHealthIT 100 winner, and is also active in the Healthcare Committee for the Government Blockchain Association, and member of the HIMSS Healthcare Blockchain Working Group. He is an advisor to multiple healthcare Blockchain start-ups, and guest lectures on Blockchain and technology at Universities and Industry. Jim has worked with large and small companies focusing on Agile development and project management, cyber security and healthcare information technology. Prior to that, Jim was Senior Director for Interoperability at HIMSS, a cause-based, not-for-profit organization exclusively focused on providing global leadership for the optimal use of information technology (IT) and management systems for the betterment of healthcare. Jim is a veteran and former naval officer, having served in both active and reserve capacity. -- Follow Jim St-Clair Follow Mathieu Glaude
April 08, 2021
#6 - The Importance of Data Inputs and Semantics for SSI with Paul Knowles from Human Colossus Foundation
In today’s episode, I talk about the importance of data inputs and semantics with joined by Paul Knowles, an individual who defines himself as a semantic nerd. - How Paul leverages his 25 years of experience as a data semantics expert in the Pharma industry for decentralized identity - The Dynamic Data Economy (DDE) – a safe and secure data sharing economy - The Overlays Capture Architecture (OCA) - Community involvement at the Trust Over IP Foundation, Sovrin Foundation, MyData Global and more!-- -- Paul Knowles has a degree in Information Business Systems Technology from the University of Essex in Colchester, UK.  His reputation as a data semantics expert and innovator has been established through a 25-year career in pharmaceutical biometrics where he has worked with companies including Roche, Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline, Amgen and Pfizer. In terms of decentralized data initiatives, Paul is the innovation lead behind the Master Mouse Model (MMM), a conceptual model for a Dynamic Data Economy (DDE) – a safe and secure data sharing economy. He is also the inventor of the Overlays Capture Architecture (OCA) and the main spearhead behind the Blinding Identity Taxonomy (BIT), both of which facilitate a unified data language so that harmonized data can be utilized by dynamic data sharing hubs for improved data science, statistics, analytics and other meaningful services. Paul is the Head of the Advisory Council at Human Colossus Foundation, a convener of the ToIP Inputs & Semantics WG, Head of Communications at Sovrin Foundation, a co-lead of the Covid Credentials Initiative’s “Use Case Implementation” workstream, a co-founder of MyData Health and an active contributing member at MyData Global and Kantara Initiative. Follow Paul Knowles Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
April 01, 2021
#5 - Self-Sovereign Identity for Social Impact with Jimmy J.P. Snoek from Tykn
This episode covers, - Using a crypto background to understand get excited about Decentralized ID for #SocialImpact - Becoming a founding Steward of Sovrin Foundation & launching Tykn to help refugees and people who've lost their identities - Working with the Turkish Government to issue Work Permit docs to their Syrian Refugee population - User experience design and Tykn’s approach to SSI wallets and enterprise applications. -- Jimmy J.P. is the co-founder and CEO of Tykn. Jimmy is a social entrepreneur, business developer and public speaker currently residing in The Hague, The Netherlands. After having worked as a professional musician in Spain and having started his first company in The Netherlands before the age of 20, Jimmy co-founded the now award-winning digital ID company Tykn. As an evangelist of data privacy and an early adopter of crypto, Jimmy has spoken about the merits of blockchain and self-sovereign identity at conferences and institutions worldwide since 2017, and has been featured in multiple publications, including The Guardian. In this conversation, Jimmy and I discuss how his background in crypto led him towards understanding and being excited about decentralized identity for social impact, how he got into SSI by being a founding steward of Sovrin, launching Tykn to help refugees and people that lost their identities, working with the Turkish Government to help issue Work Permit docs to their Syrian Refugee population, user experience design and Tykn’s approach to SSI wallets and enterprise applications.  I very much enjoyed the conversation with Jimmy - I think we could have spent many hours talking about this stuff. Enjoy! Follow Jimmy J.P. Snoek Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
March 25, 2021
#4 - SSI Wallets & Internationalizing SSI Products with Adrian Doerk
Adrian is one of the best advocates of self-sovereign identity out there. He describes himself as being on a quest to explore decentralized solutions to counter these threatening business practices. He focuses on providing basic education about self-sovereign identity via SSI Ambassador and building a strong community for the Lissi Initiative, a SSI Wallet focused on internationalization and has been made available in 12 languages. Adrian is also involved with the IDUnion organization, where they are creating an open ecosystem for decentralized identity management oriented towards European values and regulations. In this conversation, Adrian and I discuss how he got into SSI, his work on LISSI and IDUnion, how important contextualization & internationalization are for user experience design in SSI Wallets, using SSI in the decentralized assets world, bridging the gap between crypto and institutions using SSI and more. Enjoy! Follow Adrian Doerk Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
March 17, 2021
#3 - Simplifying SSI for Organizations and Removing Roadblocks for Broad SSI Adoption with Heather Dahl
Heather Dahl is CEO of She was previously Executive Director & CEO of Sovrin Foundation, a public service utility enabling self-sovereign digital identity on the internet. She is also Co-Founder of CynjaTech which provides microledger data security, encrypted communication channels and guardianship tools for blockchain technology. In this conversation we discuss how simplifying SSI education is critical to its broad adoption, Indicio's mission and transition into a public benefits corporation, lessons learned from working at Sovrin, the importance of usability, accessibility, guardianship and more to achieve sustainable social benefits, creating business models and incentive mechanisms for public identity utility node operators and finally takeaways from working alongside existing enterprise and start-ups. Follow Heather Dahl Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website:
March 04, 2021
#2 - SSI for Identity & Access Management (IAM), Zero Trust Models and Germany's Digital ID Ecosystem with André Kudra
André Kudra is the Chief Information Officer (CIO) at esatus AG, a Germany-based company many many strides in the SSI space. André has many years of experience in Identity & Access, Governance, Risk & Compliance and IT-Sec. More recently, André has taken many active roles across various Self-sovereign Identity communities including the Trust over IP Foundation, The Sovrin Foundation, IDUnion and more. In this conversation, we discuss SSI from an InfoSec context, replacing passwords with verifiable credentials, integrating into existing enterprise IAM systems, complementing the Zero Trust frameworks, low hanging fruits for enterprises to adopt SSI today and finally some talk about how the German ecosystem is prioritizing SSI as a National strategy. Follow André Kudra Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Check out this podcast episode on the Northern Block website with full transcription:
February 18, 2021
#1 - Digital Identity in Canada & the Pan-Canadian Trust Framework with Joni Brennan, President of DIACC
Joni Brennan is the President of the Digital ID & Authentication Council of Canada (DIACC). She builds on nearly 20 years of experience in digital identity innovations and standards development. Joni helps DIACC to fulfill its vision of unlocking interoperability of public and private sector capabilities through the establishment of an identity trust framework that will grow Canada’s economy. Joni is recognized as a One World Identity top 100 global influencers of identity. In this conversation, we discuss Digital ID 101 – Defining Digital ID, Digital ID in Canada, the DIACC and the Pan-Canadian Trust Framework (PCTF), the challenges of achieving digital trust and using collaboration to achieve it. Follow Joni Brennan Twitter: LinkedIn: Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: LinkedIn: Listen to this podcast episode with full transcription here:
February 07, 2021