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Swishie - Interviews with inspiring women of color who thrive in work and life

Swishie - Interviews with inspiring women of color who thrive in work and life

By Lia Fetterhoff
Get inspired by other women who have made the leap into becoming the CEO of their own life today by finding clarity and a bigger life purpose, living out their core values, and taking action towards their ideal life vision.
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Joie Ha on activism, compassion and meaningful work
Have you always had an inner knowing about the kind of work you wanted to do, but wondered how you could do more with that knowing? Or maybe you want to make your voice louder to speak up for issues and causes you're passionate about. In this episode with activist and organizer Joie Ha, we discuss how she knew at an early age that she wanted to be an activist, how she’s working to break the stereotypes of being an Asian woman (and inspiring me to do the same!), and how she approaches the work she does when people close to her may not always agree. About Joie As the daughter of refugees, Joie Ha (she/her/hers) has always endeavored to do more good for more people. She has been an activist and organizer for minority communities in Colorado for over 10 years. She has a B.A. in Anthropology and a M.A. in Development Practice with a focus on holistic methods of treating mental health for the Vietnamese refugee community in Denver. She has completed development work in Malaysia as a Community Development Officer in Kampung Sungai Suloh, and Cambodia as a researcher regarding how hip-hop can create fictive kin for youth enticed by the familial aspects of gangs. In the United States, Joie often engages in community projects with focus on anti-racist work, civic engagement, and the intersection of art and activism. She sits on several boards including serving as Chair for the Denver Asian American Pacific Islander Commission and Board Member for Colorado Asian Pacific United. Website: Instagram: @core.dei
September 13, 2021
04: Courtnei Jones on making authentic connections while building a vision
Whether you’re still finding your place in the corporate world, navigating motherhood, or pivoting your business to solve a problem in a completely different space, this episode is for you! Courtnei shares insights and lessons from being a Black woman in the corporate world, how she’s created her own opportunities through making authentic connections with others, and how she plans to stay transparent as she takes the stepping stone into yet a new role. About Courtnei Since 2014, Courtnei Jones has led her own and other brands through successfully gaining strategic positioning online to increase brand awareness, visibility, and revenue. Courtnei is an author, beloved leader, the founder of Conversions by Courtnei, a coaching and consulting company, and CEO of Keywords on Social. Notably, Courtnei has worked in partnership with Anthem, March of Dimes and the Institute for Contemporary Art to consult on strategies to increase brand awareness and revenue, and the University of Phoenix to educate others on how to do the same. While Courtnei does work with larger brands, her greatest joy and focus is on smaller brands who wish to use the digital space to grow their brand and increase brand awareness online with revenue sourced from these efforts. Clients have seen results like 148.900% increase in brand awareness and reach, immediate sales, notable collaborations, but best of all - peace of mind that they are taking the correct steps to get in front of the audience that matters most to their brand. Learn more about Courtnei and Keywords on Social at or on your favorite social media platform at @courtneionline.
August 15, 2021
03: Courtney Chow on redefining success and taking the leap during the pandemic
The pandemic provided people with time and space to reflect on their relationship with work: how they do it, where it happens, and, of course, what they actually want to do for a living. During the pandemic, when Courtney was laid off from a job she loved, she gave herself a three-month window to finally start the social media agency of her dreams. If you consider yourself multi-passionate and have thought of leaving the 9-5 but lack that clarity, or have been held back by fear time and time again in your life, listen in to my conversation today with Courtney Chow and get inspired by her story. Courtney Chow is a social and marketing strategist who helps creatives and coaches do what they love and get paid for it by attracting their dream clients on Instagram. Based in Southern California, her superpower is building relationships both online and through meet-ups and making roadmaps that busy entrepreneurs can follow to hit their business goals. Her favorite platforms to market on are Instagram and Tik Tok and you can find on Instagram and What you’ll learn from this episode: How Courtney bridged the gap between having many skills and finding aligning ways to serve her clients How Silicon Valley helped her become intentional about her pivot What to do if you feel like you're a "Jill of all trades" and aren't good at just one thing Clarity on your focus areas and redefining purpose Using fear as a motivator Courtney's love for Disney and learning about creativity in business Coming from a risk-averse family and observations on being a woman of color in the coaching space How to show up as yourself instead of following tactics inauthentic to you Finding purpose through serving others Courtney's values of kindness, loyalty, and humility and how these influence her work and life What it takes to start your own journey Connect with Courtney + Courtney Chow Co: Website:  Instagram: Resources Creativity, Inc. by Ed Catmull Note: Some of the links shared here are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
July 25, 2021
02: Jenny Lee on navigating life pivots and intentional living through minimalism
Have you ever felt the inner rumblings of dissatisfaction, a knowing that the life you're currently living could be better? Have you thought of leaving your corporate job to pursue self-employment but held yourself back because of fear? If any of this resonates with you, listen in to my conversation today with Jenny Lee. Jenny Lee is a minimalism mentor and founder of Hello Brio, a community of conscious creatives and entrepreneurs. She adopted a minimalist lifestyle in 2013 after a major life event and a cross-country move. Jenny has written on Forbes, Becoming Minimalist, No Sidebar, Wild Minimalist, Medium, and her own blog, sharing insights about intentional living. Jenny has felt the call to make sweeping changes in her life over the years, redefining her version of success from the standard American consumer-driven lifestyle of a big house with a white picket fence and a fancy career to simply finding peace in the current moment. She has successfully navigated several business pivots and talks about how consciousness (or how she refers to it, "healthy skepticism", which I love!), connectedness, and creativity drive her. In today’s episode, we talk about how she's honed in on her purpose over the years and how to be strategic when considering a big life or career pivot. What you’ll learn from this episode: How Jenny knew corporate wasn’t for her How she approached big changes like moving out of California and changing careers What it meant to move from a consumer mindset to a minimalist mindset How to be more intentional to remove the consent sense for striving Jenny talks about the power of manifestation What it means to invest in yourself, and how she got support along the way to her copywriting practice Finding allies and supporting other WOC business owners Advice for someone contemplating an international move How to navigate any life change Not "squashing" the passion when just starting out Connect with Jenny & Hello Brio: Website: Instagram: Twitter: YouTube: Resources Atomic Habits by James Clear The Overlap Book by Sean McCabe Stillness Is The Key by Ryan Holiday Lost Connections by Johann Hari Ship 30 for 30 Comprehensive Copywriting Academy Note: Some of the links shared here are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
June 20, 2021
01: Maryn Masumiya on creative expression and living authentically
Growing up, did you know what you wanted to be? What about by the time you started college: how did you pick what you wanted to major in? If you've ever felt the call to be creative and are wondering if now is the time to get started, you will strongly relate to my conversation today with Maryn Masumiya. Maryn is owner of Kawaii Craft Shop, was previously in corporate marketing for 14 years, and is a longtime friend (and my former college roommate!). During lockdown, she reconnected with her creativity while tapping into a community and getting the push she needed to build a business from a newly discovered craft she enjoyed: creating handmade gifts primarily made with clay. What you'll learn from this episode: Why it's important to take time to explore and experiment with different modes of creative expression, and not every hobby needs to become a business Why now is a great time to pursue something creative as a business How marketing can help you with developing products Advice on how to make a career shift The importance of connecting back to your identity if you've ever felt the need to minimize it growing up A great reason for supporting small businesses Why it's important to be clear on your values Connect with Maryn & Kawaii Craft Shop: Shop: Instagram: Facebook: Pinterest: Resources mentioned: Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself Hardcover by Nedra Glover Tawwab Atomic Habits by James Clear Note: Some of the links shared here are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. About the podcast: Swishie is brought to you by Lia Fetterhoff, creator of, inspiration for women of color to thrive in work and life. Subscribe for the latest episodes and if you like what you hear, consider supporting this podcast!
June 6, 2021