TCK VOF

In this episode, we invited three TCKs of three spiritual believes (Hindu, Muslim, and Christ follower) on the impact of global mobility in their own personal lives. How do they feel like being a TCK has affected the way they understand the world? What is their spiritual belief and do they feel like it has influenced the way they understand their TCKness? How do they feel like their spirituality has influenced the way they view the world?

Panelist: Shorya, Mouayad, Anna Li with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer.

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Music

The Vendetta by Stefan Kartenberg (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpeed68/58628 Ft: Apoxode

Our TCKs and Careers series ends with this episode talking to three TCKs who chose to become missionaries overseas. What led them to become missionaries? What effect does growing up cross-culturally have on their ministry in both a positive and negative way? In what ways have their organization/themselves helped them grow their spiritual walk while on the mission field? 

Panelist: Erica Kienzle, Meghan Posey, Tami Gaddis with Jonathan Walthour as your interviewer.

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Music:

Child by Jeris (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/61341 Ft: shimoda

After talking to three TCKs on their careers after 30, we invited another group of TCKs in their 30s. They have taken a road less traveled and chosen an alternative career path other than college after they graduated from high school. This episode is dedicated to those in their late teens or early 20s who are thinking or chose that route for their journeys. That life stage can be confusing in general while making some big life decisions so we hope this episode could be of use. 

Panelists: Joe Davis, Joel Winget, and Joey Campanello with Anna Li as your interviewer.

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Music:

preamble by airtone (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/61579

We continue to explore TCK's and work as we interview a panel of TCK's who have been working in their careers for longer than Jonathan, the host. Our panel guests talk about their journey in defining work and calling, the paths that they took to get where they are now, and how they have sought to hear God's voice within their careers.

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Music:

Blue Sky Blues by Kara Square (c) copyright 2019 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/mindmapthat/60675 Ft: Admiral Bob

As we continue our min-series on TCKs and Work, we talk to a panel of guests who are in the beginnings of their careers. They talk about the various twists and turns that their career took them through college and the time afterward, how they have tried to establish God's will in their lives, and the relationship between God's will and their jobs.

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Music:

Peace and Blessings by J.Lang (c) copyright 2021 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/djlang59/63527 Ft: Carosone

Our interview with Greg Coles discussing his second book No Longer Strangers: Finding Belonging in a World of Alienation where he shares about finding belonging as a celibate Christian.

Greg Coles spent fifteen childhood years as a TCK in Indonesia, on the island of Java. He moved back to the United States for college, where he studied communication, literature, and music, and recently finished a Ph.D. in English. He now works as an author, speaker, and worship leader at his church in central Pennsylvania. His first book, Single, Gay, Christian, tells the story of his own journey through questions of faith and sexual identity. His second book, scheduled to release this coming February, draws heavily from his TCK experience and is called No Longer Strangers: Finding Belonging in a World of Alienation.

Our previous episode interviewing Greg on TCK and Sexuality: https://anchor.fm/tckvof/episodes/2-3-TCK-and-Sexuality-eo2i3b

“Gay” Vs. “Same-Sex Attraction:” A Dialogue between Greg Coles and Rachel Gilson: https://centerforfaith.com/blog/gay-vs-same-sex-attraction-a-dialogue

Website to purchase Greg's book Single, Gay, Christian: https://www.gregorycoles.com/book-single-gay-christian/

Website to purchase Greg's book No Longer Strangers: Finding Belonging in a World of Alienation: https://www.gregorycoles.com/book-no-longer-strangers/

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Lost in the labyrinth by Stefan Kartenberg (c) copyright 2021 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpeed68/63387 Ft: Javolenus

Come and join Anna as she interviews the Walthours, both Jonathan and his parents, on their transition stories! How was their transition in their family life repatriating back to the States? What lessons did they learn through that process that they brought into the adoption process? How was God present when their family was going through those transitions?

Our previous episode on Family Relationships: https://anchor.fm/tckvof/episodes/1-3-Family-Relationships-ehr0vt

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Music: Fox Tale Waltz Part 1 Instrumental by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/7917-fox-tale-waltz-part-1-instrumental

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Today Elizabeth talks to three multigenerational minorities whose families have called the US home for at least three generations now. How have they felt they were culturally not ethnic enough amongst first and second generations? How have they felt they have been seen as different by European multi-generational? What have they learned with faith as their compass about how to live in this "in-between"?

Panelists: Adrian Reyna-Gonzales, Daniel Sasaki, and Michael Wade with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer

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Music:

Fearless First by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3742-fearless-first

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Third Culture Adult (TCA) is an adult who has lived outside his passport country but only as an adult. In this episode, Elizabeth interviews three TCAs who specifically went overseas as international students. What was the funniest experience they had due to cross-cultural miscommunication? What was the hardest adjustment they had when first moving to a new culture? What was MOST helpful to them in transitioning into their new culture? How did their faith help them navigate the challenges they face living in their Third Culture Adult culture?

Panelists: Ebbin Daniel, Andrew Walsh, and Hannah Peng with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer.

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Music:

Blind Love Dub by Jeris (c) copyright 2017 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/55416 Ft: Kara Square (mindmapthat)

For our podcast, we have been using the Third Culture Kids term for all Cross-Cultural Kids. Is that okay for the experts in the TCK world? What would someone like Ruth Van Reken, the author of Third Culture Kids: Growing Up Among Worlds think? Let us get back down to basics to terminologies with Ruth and hear what she has to say about it as well as her hope for the future of the TCK term!

Ruth Van Reken is a second-generation Third Culture Kid* (TCK) and mother of three now-adult TCKs. She is co-author of Third Culture Kids: Growing Up Among Worlds, 3rd ed., and author of Letters Never Sent, her personal journaling seeking to understand the long-term impact of her cross-cultural childhood. For more than thirty-five years Ruth has traveled extensively speaking about issues related to the impact of global mobility on individuals, families, and societies. Since 2001 she has expanded her interest to work with those she calls Cross-Cultural Kids (CCKs)—children who grow up cross-culturally for any reason. She is co-founder and past chairperson of Families in Global Transition.  In addition to her two books and many articles, she has written a chapter in other books including Strangers at Home, Unrooted Childhoods, and Writing Out of Limbo. She has also co-authored a group study guide on transitions in the Bible called Life in Motion. In 2019 she received an Honorary Doctor of Letters degree from Wheaton College for her life's work. She now lives in Indianapolis, IN with her husband, David.

*a child who spends a significant period of time during his or her developmental years growing up in a culture outside the parents’ culture.

Learn more about Ruth via her website at: https://www.crossculturalkid.org/who-are-cross-cultural-kids/

BONUS episode: Elizabeth, Jonathan, and Anna sat down together sharing what they thought about doing TCK VOF Season Two. P.S. Be prepared for a style change!

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license 

What are some differences in culture that you navigated with your spouse in parenting and how did you approach them? How did you strive to maintain a close relationship with your kids when you know that they will grow up and leave the house eventually? How has your faith shaped and challenged your understanding of being a parent?

Panelists: Caleb Cook, Marcia Smith, and Yvonne Bridgeman with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer.

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Music: goodbye butterfly by Jeris (c) copyright 2013 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/43752 Ft: _ghost, moonchild

What is a cultural misunderstanding you had with your spouse and how did you walk through it? What has helped you understand each other's cultural worlds? Based on your own experience what is some advice would you give someone who is in a relationship or married with a TCK or non-TCK? And, how did your faith help you navigate the cultural challenges of marriage?

Panelists: Jonathan and Purity Walthour, as well as Abbie and Jason Keel with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer.

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Check out Abbie Keel share about being asked the question "Where are you from?" from our previous season at https://tckvof.wordpress.com/2020/06/12/1-1-where-are-you-from/

Music: Coffee & Lullabies by Jeris (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/62161 Ft: @CrazyLittleAsian

Jonathan sits down and talks with Steven Black, the host of TCK Care. Steven is getting his master's in clinical psychology and has worked as both a missionary and TCK Care person. Being a TCK himself, he speaks from both experience and education about the effects of the TCK lifestyle on future families. Check out Stevens podcast at https://tckcare.com/ 

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Music: [song name] by Alexander Nakarada (www.serpentsoundstudios.com) Licensed under Creative Commons BY Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

What was it like growing up as an International or Transracial Adoptee? Was any element of your ethnic culture emphasized growing up? If so, what did they do? If not, what do you hope they would have done? What advice would you give to someone who is planning to adopt? We continue our conversation about transracial and international adoptees with a different panel.

Panelists: Lauren Burke, Sandhya Oaks, and Will Neusch with Jonathan Walthour as your interviewer.

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Music: Noto no koto by Jeris (c) copyright 2014 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/46035 Ft: robwalkerpoet

What was it like growing up as an International or Transracial Adoptee? How much influence did your blood culture have on your upbringing? How much influence does your adaptive culture have on your life? Come and join our panelists as they talk through their life and experiences growing up as international and transracial adoptees. 

Panelists: Chandran Higgins, John C Hugues, and McKenna Tey with Jonathan Walthour as your interviewer.

Check out John C talk more about this adoptive experience with Jonathan on TCK Tales-https://anchor.fm/t-c-k-tales/episodes/012-My-Identity-is-e2c72l

Check out McKenna Tey share about being asked the question "Where are you from?" from our previous season at https://tckvof.wordpress.com/2020/06/12/1-1-where-are-you-from/

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Music: dazed by Jeris (c) copyright 2012 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/39456 Ft: airtone

Life hit Pat and Tammy McLeod hard when their son Zach collapsed on a high school football field; he had sustained a severe brain injury. This accident led the family into the world of ambiguous loss. Ambiguous loss is a loss that occurs without closure or clear understanding. This kind of loss leaves a person searching for answers, and thus complicates and delays the process of grieving, and often results in unresolved grief.

“Type One: Occurs when there is physical absence with psychological presence. This includes situations when a loved one is physically missing or bodily gone.

Type Two: Occurs when there is psychological absence with physical presence. In this second type of ambiguous loss, a loved one is psychologically absent—that is, emotionally or cognitively missing.

Pat and Tammy McLeod serve as Harvard Chaplains for Cru, an interdenominational Christian ministry. Tammy is also the Director of College Ministry at Park Street Church in Boston. She received her MA in Spiritual Formation from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Pat holds an MA in Theological Studies from the International School of Theology, and an MA in Science and Religion and a PhD in Practical Theology from Boston University. Pat and Tammy have been married for more than three decades and are parents to four grown children.

You can find and purchase Pat and Tammy's book Hit Hard at:

https://patandtammymcleod.com/

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Music: Mattioli Prelude by Martijn de Boer (NiGiD) (c) copyright 2015 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/NiGiD/50958 Ft: Mario Mattioli (Keyborg)

Life hit Pat and Tammy McLeod hard when their son Zach collapsed on a high school football field; he had sustained a severe brain injury. This accident led the family into the world of ambiguous loss. Ambiguous loss is a loss that occurs without closure or clear understanding. This kind of loss leaves a person searching for answers, and thus complicates and delays the process of grieving, and often results in unresolved grief.

“Type One: Occurs when there is physical absence with psychological presence. This includes situations when a loved one is physically missing or bodily gone. 

Type Two: Occurs when there is psychological absence with physical presence. In this second type of ambiguous loss, a loved one is psychologically absent—that is, emotionally or cognitively missing. 

Pat and Tammy McLeod serve as Harvard Chaplains for Cru, an interdenominational Christian ministry. Tammy is also the Director of College Ministry at Park Street Church in Boston. She received her MA in Spiritual Formation from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Pat holds an MA in Theological Studies from the International School of Theology, and an MA in Science and Religion, and a PhD in Practical Theology from Boston University. Pat and Tammy have been married for more than three decades and are parents to four grown children.

You can find and purchase Pat and Tammy's book Hit Hard at: 

https://patandtammymcleod.com/

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Music: Doxent Zsigmond - Forest Dreams - Stjørdal Winter Mix by Fex (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Fex/61925 

Today our Panel is all "Hidden Immigrants." Hidden Immigrants look alike but think differently. Most TCK's are hidden immigrants when they go back to their "passport" culture but some are also hidden immigrants in both their passport and host cultures.

Panelists: Dana Jackson, David Rojas, and Luke Burch with Elizabeth Norvell as your interviewer

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Music: Wholesome by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5050-wholesome License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

You don't just have to live overseas to be a TCK. Our panel today had a TCK experience because their parents lived in other countries and they understand what it is like living in between worlds.

Panelists: Anthony Lee, Makda Negusse, and Sophia Abraham with Elizabeth Norvell is the interviewer.

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Music: Bossa Noir for Nights by Stefan Kartenberg (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpeed68/61806 Ft: Martijn de Boer (NiGiD),  Javolenus

Greg Coles spent fifteen childhood years as a TCK in Indonesia, on the island of Java. He moved back to the United States for college, where he studied communication, literature, and music, and recently finished a PhD in English. He now works as an author, speaker, and worship leader at his church in central Pennsylvania. His first book, Single, Gay, Christian, tells the story of his own journey through questions of faith and sexual identity. His second book, scheduled to release this coming February, draws heavily from his TCK experience and is called No Longer Strangers: Finding Belonging in a World of Alienation.

“Gay” Vs. “Same-Sex Attraction:” A Dialogue between Greg Coles and Rachel Gilson: https://centerforfaith.com/blog/gay-vs-same-sex-attraction-a-dialogue

Website to purchase Greg's book Single, Gay, Christian: https://www.gregorycoles.com/book-single-gay-christian/

Website to purchase Greg's book No Longer Strangers: Finding Belonging in a World of Alienation: https://www.gregorycoles.com/book-no-longer-strangers/

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Music: funkyGarden by Jeris (c) copyright 2020 Licensed under a Creative Commons Noncommercial Sampling Plus license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/VJ_Memes/61356 Ft: airtone, SackJo22, Analog By Nature

We continue our conversation about what it is like growing up in Multi-Ethnic Families with a new set of panelists. Come and join our panelists in understanding their ethnicities during the turbulent year of 2020 and beyond.

Panelist: Ricky Magoncia, Joabe Andrade II, and Alexius Alldrin, with Interviewer Jonathan Walthour

Check out Joabe Sena Anrade tells his story on TCK Tales and what helped him face his demons and become fully whole: https://anchor.fm/t-c-k-tales/episodes/007-Facing-Your-Demons-e218md/a-a10mk3j

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Music: All World Reggae by Snowflake (c) copyright 2016 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/snowflake/53393 Ft: DJ Vadim, Sackjo22

What is your favorite and least favorite thing about being multi-ethnic? Do you feel like you have to pick an ethnicity and how has family played into your understanding of that? Come and join our panelists in understanding their ethnicities during the turbulent year of 2020. 

Panelists: Alexis Salazar, Jamie Perry, and Kevin (KP) Patao with Jonathan Walthour as your interviewer.

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Music: On The Airtone by Jonatha Chance (c) copyright 2019 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/PerchanceMusic/60687 Ft: Airtone

How do you determine your identity? For the cultures you identify with which one do you identify with the most? What does your passport country mean to you? What does your host country (where you grew up in) mean to you? How do you identity yourself currently? If that is different from in the past, how has that changed over time? 

Panelists: 

Paul Snider: grew up in Jamaica until college; parents are from the USA; currently directs Cru's ministry for Missionary Kids, MK2MK. 

Hannah: grew up in Romania the first 10 years of life and then Hungary till 18 years old; family from South Carolina, USA; currently in Florida, USA Sarah: grew up in Slovenia from 6 to 12 years old; lived in Colorado, Illinois, and Ohio in the USA; went back as a missionary to Slovenia for two years and moving to Central Asia 

Interviewer: 

Elizabeth Norvell: missionary kid who grew up in the Philippines and USA; currently life in transit location wise. 

MK2MK Based in Orlando, MK2MK serves missionaries around the world by discipling MKs and encouraging the whole family. MKs and other TCKs are involved through mission trips, conferences, and our ongoing local and virtual communities. You can go to mk2mk.org to learn more. There you'll find info on upcoming summer missions, resources for parents, kids, and teenagers, as well as links to their social media and blog.

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PolVan Cultural Identity Model https://tckstudent.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/3/5/24353789/2006380.png?351

Music: ~aether theories~ by Vidian (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Vidian/57398 Ft: Gurdonark, White-throated Sparrow

How have you felt like you don't fit in with your family especially related to culture? If you had a TCK experience with your siblings, how has your experience differed from theirs? Have you ever felt like you related to your TCK friends more than your family? How has the CCK/TCK experience manifested itself in family transitions?  

Panelists:  

Kristen Caughlan (Multiethnic): father originally from Japan; spent 17 years in Japan; 2 biological and 2 International Adoptee children; Lives in Washington, USA  

Nichole Riley (Bi-cultural): father raised by Irish grandmother; married a Polish American; lives in Indiana, USA  

Kevin Chang: life trajectory: Taiwan-USA-Taiwan- South Africa-Taiwan-USA; lives in Oregon, USA; soon moving to Taiwan; parents currently in Denmark  

Interviewer:  Elizabeth Norvell: missionary kid who grew up in the Philippines and USA; currently life in transit location wise.  

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Music: Jehovah Jireh, Connor Caughlan (https://www.facebook.com/connor.caughlan/)

How much did your expectations of what transition was going to look like match what actually happened? What did you feel you were gaining and losing in transition? What kinds of emotions did you have in preparing for your transition? What did you feel before/during/after? Join Elizabeth, Amy, Sharon, and Susan in their adventures of transitions and losses. 

Panelists:

Susan Hu: born and raised in USA till sixth grade; moved to Shanghai, China for six years; currently lives in New Jersey;

Amy Schulte: Originally from USA; grew up in Palestine and France; just moved back from three years in Italy; currently lives in Saint Louis, MO;

Sharon Kumar: born in Oman; family originally from India; moved to USA when 12 years old; currently lives in Boston, MA.

Interviewer:

Elizabeth Norvell: missionary kid who grew up in the Philippines and USA; currently life in transit location wise.

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Music:

East to West, Casting Crowns

When did you feel the most challenged to describe what country you are from? Is there a difference between how you identify yourself and how others identify you? How do you determine where home is? Come and join Elizabeth, McKenna, Abbie, and Edward in their journey and how they answer those questions!  

Panelists: Edward Kim: originally from South Korea; grew up in USA, South Korea, and Thailand; currently live in New York. Abbie Keel: grew up in Hungary, USA, and Germany; raised 2nd generation tcks in east Asia; currently live in Atlanta McKenna Tey (International adoptee): adopted from China; Grew up in Colorado and Texas; currently live in Seattle 

Interviewer:  Elizabeth Norvell: missionary kid who grew up in the Philippines and USA; currently life in transit location wise 

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Music:  I Am Home, Francesca Battistelli