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That's Terrible, Keep Going

That's Terrible, Keep Going

By Casey K and Amy K

Welcome to our terrible twosome podcast, where we take a light-hearted and curious look at the darkest aspects of human history. Join us, Casey K and Amy K, as we dive into the world of murders, cults, robberies, and disasters - all the stuff that makes you say "That's terrible, keep going!".

Researched and delivered to you by eternally curious sisters, we aim to keep you entertained and informed with all things terrible. Open your ears, keep going and enjoy xo
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Ep 28: Terry Jo Dupperault

That's Terrible, Keep GoingSep 12, 2023

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Ep 28: Terry Jo Dupperault
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Ep 27: Aum Shinrikyo Cult

Ep 27: Aum Shinrikyo Cult

Another cult for you this week dolls! This time, we head to Japan for a new religious movement and doomsday cult founded by Shoko Asahara in 1987. There is a lot to unpack in this episode, and as per usual it begins with a fairly innocent movement surrounding yoga, mediation and positive thinking. But of course, things turn terrible and we cover the cults ultimate demise due to a deadly Tokyo subway sarin attack in 1995. We might have a case of the giggles in this episode but make no mistake, this is a nasty one.

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Episode sources: Delong, W. & Serena, K (February 1, 2019). “Aum Shinrikyo Believed They Alone Would Survive The Apocalypse – So They Decided To Start It On Their Own”. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/aum-shinrikyo

No by line. (July 6, 2018). “Aum Shinrikyo: The Japanese cult behind the Tokyo Sarin attack”. BBC.com. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35975069

MasterClass. (November 11, 2022). “ What Is a Cult? 4 Types of Cults and Common Characteristics”. MasterClass. https://www.masterclass.com/articles/what-is-a-cult

McCurry, J. (July 6, 2018). “Japan executes sarin gas attack cult leader Shoko Asahara and six members”. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/japan-executes-sarin-gas-attack-cult-leader-shoko-asahara-and-six-members-reports

Sep 05, 202343:51
Ep 26: The Family Murders (Part 2)

Ep 26: The Family Murders (Part 2)

We're wrapping up "The Family Murders" this week dolls, with a special guest appearance of Dad K, providing us some context surrounding Adelaide at the time of the murders. Tune in to hear how investigators honed in on the main Monster Bevan Spencer Von Einem, as well as some compelling first hand accounts from people close to "The Family" at the time.


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Episode sources:

Donaldson, K. (accessed 2023, June 24). “The Family Murders. Australia’s Most Notroius unsolved serial killings”. SYFY WIRE. https://familymurders.com/

The Mystery Reporter. (2022, Sept 9). “Child Killer Tortured And Murdered 15-Year-Old”. The Mystique https://medium.com/the-mystery-reporter/child-killer-tortured-and-murdered-15-year-old-2c55fc189223

Sutton, C. (2021, September 2021). “Interview with a monster the city of corpses murders.” News.com.au. https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/interview-with-a-monster-the-city-of-corpses-murders/news-story/35311651cd584314723c501f21315248

No by line. (accessed 2023, June 24). “Bevan Spencer Von Einem.” Murderpedia. https://murderpedia.org/male.V/v/von-einem-bevan.htm


Aug 22, 202344:54
Ep 25: The Family Murders (Part 1)

Ep 25: The Family Murders (Part 1)

*warning: violent acts against minors & severe depictions of mutilation - discretion is advised*

Back to AUS this week and this time Adelaide dolls, and this case is a rough one. We dive into “The Family Murders” which follows a series of five murders in Australia, speculated to have been committed by a loosely connected group of individuals who came to be known as "The Family". The details are terrible and rough dolls so tread carefully. This group was believed to be involved in the kidnapping, drug-lacing and sexual abuse of a number of teenage boys and young men, as well as the torture, mutilation and murder of five young men aged between 14 and 25 in the 1970s and 1980s.


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Episode sources:

Donaldson, K. (accessed 2023, June 24). “The Family Murders. Australia’s Most Notroius unsolved serial killings”. SYFY WIRE. https://familymurders.com/

The Mystery Reporter. (2022, Sept 9). “Child Killer Tortured And Murdered 15-Year-Old”. The Mystique https://medium.com/the-mystery-reporter/child-killer-tortured-and-murdered-15-year-old-2c55fc189223

Sutton, C. (2021, September 2021). “Interview with a monster the city of corpses murders.” News.com.au. https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/interview-with-a-monster-the-city-of-corpses-murders/news-story/35311651cd584314723c501f21315248

No by line. (accessed 2023, June 24). “Bevan Spencer Von Einem.” Murderpedia. https://murderpedia.org/male.V/v/von-einem-bevan.htm


Aug 15, 202331:13
Ep 24: Harrison Okene

Ep 24: Harrison Okene

A miracle survival amidst a tragedy this week dolls. Guest co-host Max K back in the studio as we cover the story of the incredible, Harrison Okene; a Nigerian Cook who survived 3 harrowing days in a sunken tug boat. This accidental aquanaut’s story is wild! Open your ears dolls and listen to believe it.


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Episode sources:

Thomson, J. (2023, January 1). “Man Found Alive at Bottom of the Sea 3 Days After Boat Sank: 'Total Shock'”. News week. https://www.newsweek.com/shipwreck-survivor-10-years-later-60-hours-underwater 1772395#:~:text=What%20Is%20Decompression%20Sickness%3F&text=On%20May%2023%2C%20it%20will,ocean%20surface%20for%2060%20hours.

Latchman, D. (2013, December 31). “Did Fick’s Law save Harrison Odjegba Okene?”. Medium. https://medium.com/@SciWriterDave/did-ficks-law-save-harrison-odjegba-okene-f34d66fd7f37

Mark, M. (2013, June 13). “Nigerian sailor 'a phenomenon' for surviving in air pocket for 60 hours”. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/12/nigeria-sailor-survive-air-pocket

J no surname. (2022, August 2). “Meet Harrison Okene: The Man Who Survived 3 Harrowing Days In A Sunken Ship”. Indie 88. https://indie88.com/harrison-okene/


Aug 08, 202334:35
Ep 23: Lindbergh Kidnapping

Ep 23: Lindbergh Kidnapping

Kidnapping centric case this week dolls, with hints of conspiracy and historical mystery. Once deemed “The Kidnapping” and “The Crime of the Century”, the Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping sure did shock the nation during the Great Depression. The consequent media frenzy would ultimately force the family into hiding. Listen as we cover the terrible kidnapping and circumstances surrounding the kidnapping of 20-month-old Charles Augustus Lindbergh Jr.


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Episode sources:

Tron, G. (2023, March 1). “Charles Augustus Lindbergh, Jr.: The True Story of The Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping?”. Oxygen True Crime. https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/story-behind-charles-augustus-lindbergh-jr-kidnapping

no by line (accessed 2023, June 18). “The Kidnapping”. PBS.org. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/lindbergh-kidnapping/

no by line (accessed 2023, June 18). “Lindbergh Kidnapping”. FBI. Gov. https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/lindbergh-kidnapping

No by line (accessed 2023, June 18). “The Lindbergh Kidnapping”. Crime Museum. https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/kidnappings/the-lindbergh-kidnapping/

Ahlgren, G. & Monier, S. (1993). Crime of the Century: The Lindbergh kidnapping hoax. Branden Books. ISBN 0-8283-1971-5.


Aug 01, 202344:03
Ep 22: Brenda Spencer

Ep 22: Brenda Spencer

In January 1979, 16-year-old Brenda Spencer began shooting 30 rounds of ammunition at the Cleveland Elementary School, in San Diego, US. If you haven’t heard of it, perhaps you’re familiar with the song “I Don’t Like Mondays” by the Boomtown Rats? Well this terrible story is what inspired Bob Geldof to write the song. Listen as we cover this terrible ordeal and TTKG’s first shooter based episode.


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Episode sources:

Leonard, T. (2019, April 19). “’I Don’t Like Mondays’:School Shooter Brenda Spencer’s bid for Freedom”. The Advertiser. https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifestyle/sa-weekend/i-dont-like-mondays-school-shooter-brenda-spencers-bid-for-freedom/news-story/edc28524f11afaa7bbee4583d163955c

Serene, K. & Anglis, J. (2022, June 7). “Before The Columbine Massacre or Parkland Shooting, There Was Brenda Ann Spencer.” All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/brenda-ann-spencer

No by line. (2012) “Brenda Ann Spencer”. Murderpedia. https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/spencer-brenda.htm

Taylor, T. (2021, December 13). “The Incredibly Tragic Backstory to the Boomtown Rats Song ‘I Don’t Like Mondays”. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-boomtown-rats-i-dont-like-mondays-dark-backstory/


Jul 18, 202331:26
Ep 21: Israel Keyes

Ep 21: Israel Keyes

Israel Keyes was an American serial killer, bank robber, burglar, arsonist, kidnapper and sex offender who murdered at least three confirmed victims and up to at least 11 suspected victims across the United States from July 2001 to February 2012. This calculated killer gives us particular shivers in our timbers based on his premeditation and lack of victim profile. Keep going and listen to the ep dolls.

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Giacomazzo, B. & Kuroski, J. (2021, Dec 9). “The Harrowing Story Of Israel Keyes, America’s Unhinged Cross-Country Serial Killer.” All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/israel-keyes

Carter, M. (2012, Dec 3). "Alleged serial killer's claim of 4 Washington state victims is being investigated". The Seattle Times. Archived from the original on January 20, 2013. Retrieved December 3, 2012.

Dziemianowicz, J. (2020, July). “Israel Keyes traveled all over America to hunt victims, but a crime in Alaska led to his downfall.” Oxygen Mag. https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/israel-keyes-who-was-he-how-caught-evidence


Jul 11, 202337:43
Ep 20: Parker-Hulme Murder
Jul 04, 202331:35
Ep 19: Jennifer Morey

Ep 19: Jennifer Morey

Another WILD survival story for you dolls. In April of 1995, Jennifer Morey, a 25 year-old attorney, was savagely attacked in her Houston TX apartment. We discuss the incredible fight for her life, her quick thinking as well as the 911 dispatcher saved her life that night. *Plays survivor by Destiny Child* ...Casey K is Beyonce and Amy K is Michelle, obvi xo


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Episode sources:

Partington, V. (2022, May 10). “Don’t Answer the Door: The Survivor Story of Jennifer Morey.” Medium. https://www.oxygen.com/deadly-cults/crime-news/lou-castro-daniel-perez-angel-landing-cult-sara-mcgrath

Rose, S. (2021, October 30). “How Jennifer Morey Survived A Brutal Knife Attack & Rebuilt Her Life”. Blurred By Lines. https://blurredbylines.com/articles/jennifer-morey-survived-1995-attack-texas/

Charleston, L. J. (2022, May 18). “Women Who Survived: How quick thinking and a 911 operator's stern warning saved Jennifer Morey's life”. 9Honey. https://honey.nine.com.au/latest/jennifer-morey-attempted-murder-knife-attack-what-happened-where-is-she-now-explainer/9912f850-179c-494a-b2ab-0c2cdf1a5ad7


Jun 20, 202320:27
Ep 18: Angel’s Landing Cult

Ep 18: Angel’s Landing Cult

*WARNING* crimes (sexual) committed against underage victims

In this weeks episode Casey K and Amy K discuss the Angel's Landing Cult led by Daniel Perez, a religious group that captured the attention of the nation in the mid-2000s. There are some terrible ongoings in this episode dolls, please have something light lined-up afterwards. Perez, also known as "Lou Castro," convinced his followers to abandon their lives and join him on a remote compound located in a secluded area of the Arizona desert. The group, which grew to about 50 members, lived off the land and isolated themselves from the outside world. Listen to hear more about the terrible details.


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Episode sources:

No by line. (2022, January 17). “Daniel Perez – Angel or Demon?”. Criminal Course Podcast “CDP”. https://criminaldiscoursepodcast.com/daniel-perez/

Choiniere, A. (2022, September 28). “Daniel Perez Now: Where Is Cult Leader ‘Lou Castro’ Today in 2022?”. Heavy. https://heavy.com/entertainment/2020/08/daniel-perez-now-lou-castro-today-2020-update/

Hawkins, E. (2020, May 03). “Self-Described 'Angel' Reigns Over Kansas Cult Through Murder, Rape And Fraud.” Oxygen. https://www.oxygen.com/deadly-cults/crime-news/lou-castro-daniel-perez-angel-landing-cult-sara-mcgrath


Jun 13, 202344:33
Ep 17: Folie à Deux – The Gibbons Twins

Ep 17: Folie à Deux – The Gibbons Twins

TTKG’s first Folie à Deux case! On this episode we discuss the phenomenon of Folie à Deux and cover identical twins June and Jennifer Gibbons, aka “The Silent Twins”. We discuss their fascinating lives and their eventual incarceration due to the string of crimes committed together as teens and adults. Find us or Write to us: @ttkgpodcast - Instagram ttkgpodcast@gmail.com Send us your terrible tale so we can share it on the pod! OR send us your feedback or request your favourite story. Episode sources: Al Saif, F. & Al Khalili, Y. (2022, August 29). National Library of Medicine, National Center for Biotechnology and Information. Shared Psychotic Disorder. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK541211/#:~:text=Shared%20psychotic%20disorder%20(folie%20%C3%A0,based%20on%20a%20delusional%20belief. Jason, E. (2018, December 23). “Locked Up Mysterious Twins Wouldn’t Speak to Anyone”. Wales On Sunday. https://web.archive.org/web/20190424040649/https://www.questia.com/article/1G1-566778385/locked-up-mysterious-twins-wouldn-t-speak-to-anyone Joseph, C. (2016, April 13). The 'Silent Twins' who were so close one of them had to DIE so the other could survive: Sister of girls held in Broadmoor for eleven years reveals lifelong heartache caused by their sinister bond. Daily Mail UK. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3526486/Sister-Silent-Twins-close-one-DIE-live.html Serena, K. & Anglis, J. (2022, September 4). The Strange Story Of June And Jennifer Gibbons, The ‘Silent Twins’ Who Only Spoke To Each Other. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/silent-twins
Jun 06, 202342:58
Ep 16: Tracey Wigginton

Ep 16: Tracey Wigginton

Back to Australia for this terrible case, we discuss the life and crime of Tracey Wigginton. Deemed by the media at the time as “The Lesbian Vampire Killer”; we cover events leading up to the senseless act of violence that left the community in shock, as well as the controversy surrounding her mental health and the nature of the barbaric act itself.  


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Episode sources:

Arvier, T. (2019, Feb 12th). “Exclusive: Vampire Killer Tracey Wigginton's disturbing new posts.” 9News. https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-news-vampire-killer-tracey-wigginton-facebook-posts/09282693-2a38-4a28-b774-e4e13ce75528

Sutton, C. (2021, September). “Lesbian vampire killer who drank victim’s blood” News.com. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/lesbian-vampire-killer-who-drank-victims-blood/news-story/09102844937bc5d7f8ae57a6ecaa7d23

No By line. (2021, March 12). “Crime Week — Dark secrets of Australia’s lesbian vampire murderer”. The Daily Telegraph. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/crime-week-dark-secrets-of-australias-lesbian-vampire-murderer/news-story/83ed596770511fa459c4a7feab36ce1c

No By Line. (2015, November 11). “The lesbian vampire killer: The dark secrets of Tracey Wigginton.” Herald Sun. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/true-crime-scene/the-lesbian-vampire-killer-the-dark-secrets-of-tracey-wiggington/news-story/0ac4880487a8b8befcab01ced6eb3122

May 16, 202337:53
Ep 15: The Great Molasses Flood
May 09, 202323:45
Ep 14: Mary Vincent

Ep 14: Mary Vincent

Our first survival dedicated episode. We dive in to one of the most remarkable cases, that of the astonishing 15 year-old Mary Vincent, whom fought for her life after a terribly savage attack from serial predator Lawrence Singleton. The episode covers her miraculous and brave ordeal, as well as that of terrible crimes of Lawrence Singleton.

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Harvey, A. & Johnson, C. (December 4, 2022). The Chilling Story Of Mary Vincent, The Hitchhiking Teen Who Lost Both Her Arms In A Violent Attack. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/mary-vincent

Allan, L. (August 24, 2022). “The Harrowing Survival Story Of Mary Vincent.” Ranker  https://www.ranker.com/list/mary-vincent-lawrence-singleton-case/laura-allan

Taylor, M. (January 1, 2002). “Lawrence Singleton, despised rapist, dies / He chopped off teenager's arms in 1978”. SF Gate. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lawrence-Singleton-despised-rapist-dies-He-2886703.php

Dean, P. (February 25, 1997). “Mary Vincent Speaks Out: ‘He Destroyed Everything About Me.’”. LA Times. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-02-25-ls-32048-story.html

Rose, S. (October 27, 2022). “How Mary Vincent Survived Lawrence Singleton’s Attack As A Teenager.” Blurred By Lines  https://blurredbylines.com/articles/mary-vincent-lawrence-singleton-attack-survival/

May 02, 202325:06
Ep 13: Rachel Barber
Apr 18, 202325:20
Ep 12: Sydney Ghost Train Fire
Apr 11, 202331:31
Ep 11: Maria Korp
Apr 04, 202357:25
Ep 10: Ken Rex McElroy
Mar 21, 202318:24
Ep 9: Oliver Sipple
Mar 14, 202321:17
Ep 8: Synanon Cult
Mar 07, 202356:38
Ep 7: Yuba County Five

Ep 7: Yuba County Five

This episodes marks TTKG's first historical mystery and disappearance case! In February, 1978, a group of friends from Yuba City in California; fondly referred to as "The Boys" by their families,  set out on a trip to watch a basketball game. They left after it finished and for reasons which perplex investigators to this day, drove up a mountain into the wilderness and were never seen alive again.

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Gorney, C. (July 6, 1978). “5 ‘ Boys’ Who Never Come Back”. Washington Post.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1978/07/06/5-boys-who-never-come-back/f8b30b11-baeb-4351-89f3-26456a76a4fb/

Lakshmi, S. (July 20, 2021). “The Disturbingly Mysterious Disappearance of the Yuba County Boys”. Medium. https://medium.com/the-mystery-box/the-disturbingly-mysterious-disappearance-of-the-yuba-county-boys-b8a7dfd07ab0

(no by line). (August 12, 2022). “The Yuba County Five”. Dark Tales https://darktales.blog/2022/08/12/the-yuba-county-five/

(no by line). (February 26, 2019). “Cold Case: Why Did 5 Northern California Men Disappear in 1978?”. Sacramento Bee.

(no by line). (December 8, 2017). “The haunting case of the Mathias Group (Yuba County Five)”. Strange Outdoors. https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/2017/12/7/mathias-group-from-yuba-city

Feb 28, 202346:13
Ep 6: St Francis Dam Disaster
Feb 14, 202353:37
Ep 5: Cowboy Bob
Feb 07, 202337:18
Ep 4: Cary Stayner - The Yosemite Killer

Ep 4: Cary Stayner - The Yosemite Killer

Cary Stayner, the older brother of Steven Stayner (ep 3) - was convicted for the murder of four women between February and July 1999. Nicknamed 'The Yosemite Killer', Cary across the different victims, utilized methods such as; sexual assault, strangulation, knife attack, decapitation and ultimately desecration of a body (burning).  Find us or Write to us: @ttkgpodcast - Instagram ttkgpodcast@gmail.com Send us your terrible tale so we can share it on the pod! OR send us your feedback or request your favourite story. Episode sources: Yang, A., Rhee, J., & Schiffman, K. (2019, July 19). “Steven and Cary Stayner: The tale of two brothers' horror and heroism”. ABC News. https://abcnews.go.com/US/steven-cary-stayner-tale-brothers-horror-heroism/story?id=60529944 Chesanek, C. & Johnson, C. (2022, October 3). “The Crimes Of Cary Stayner, The Handyman Who Murdered Four Women Near Yosemite National Park”. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/cary-stayner Moran, M. (2017, December 13). “The Most Depressing Follow-up to a Happy Ending Ever: The Steven Stayner Story.” Medium. https://medium.com/@michaelmoran/the-most-depressing-follow-up-to-a-happy-ending-ever-the-steven-stayner-story-745e166d75cb
Jan 31, 202328:55
Ep 3: Steven Stayner
Jan 17, 202334:53
Ep 2: Linda Hazzard and Starvation Heights
Jan 17, 202349:20
Ep 1: Chowchilla Bus Kidnapping
Jan 17, 202339:47
TTKG Sneak Peek

TTKG Sneak Peek

Sneak peak (for your ears dolls) of the flavour of us! 

No spoilers inside, just a hodge-podge of voice bites and crudely edited takes of our first few recordings. 

We hope you have as many giggles as we do. Keep going and chat to you soon sickos.

xo Casey K and Amy K 

Jan 10, 202301:42
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