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Until All Are Free

Until All Are Free

By The Exodus Road

Until All Are Free (a podcast by The Exodus Road) supplies listeners with an understanding of the systemic issues of human trafficking through conversations with our founders and other experts, incredible stories from survivors, and interviews with the ordinary operatives who bring extraordinary justice through the work of The Exodus Road.

The Exodus Road is a global nonprofit committed to the fight against human trafficking. We gather evidence, empower nationals, and facilitate rescue missions alongside local law enforcement to end human trafficking across our globe.
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EP 10 | Hostage at the Disco

Until All Are FreeDec 03, 2020

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EP 29 | Debt Bondage in Pakistan's Brick Industry

EP 29 | Debt Bondage in Pakistan's Brick Industry

On this episode of Until All Are Free, Preston sits down with Drew and James, two volunteer investigators with The Exodus Road. The two recount their recent travels to Pakistan, where they assisted a separate nonprofit organization in securing the release of a family from debt bondage in Pakistan's brick-making industry.

Debt bondage is inherently complex, like many of the topics discussed in Until All Are Free. Many individuals ensnared in Pakistan's debt-bondage schemes are suffering from generational enslavement where the possibility of freedom from debt is unrealistic. In the landscape of human rights organizations addressing debt bondage worldwide, conversations often arise about the best tactics for intervention efforts to dismantle systems of exploitation that prop up this mechanism of trafficking. This episode is intended as an educational source about the nature of human trafficking in this region of the world. As an organization, The Exodus Road does not participate in transactional exchanges with traffickers to secure the freedom of a survivor of human trafficking.

Dec 31, 202228:27
EP 28 | Interview with an Anti-Human Trafficking Director in Asia

EP 28 | Interview with an Anti-Human Trafficking Director in Asia

Joining Preston on this episode of Until All Are Free is Daniel*, the Asia Regional Director at The Exodus Road. Daniel has investigated more than 1,000 locations in Asia for human trafficking. He'll share with us about what that's like and about the immense sacrifices law enforcement and our national staff make to do this work.

Before transitioning to the international space, Daniel worked as a lawyer in Colorado where he focused on child abuse and neglect cases in Jefferson County. Today, Daniel oversees The Exodus Road's international programs in India, the Philippines, and Thailand.

*Pseudonym used to ensure safety.

Aug 29, 202240:22
EP 27 | The Exodus Road and The Rohingya of Myanmar
Aug 03, 202239:46
EP 26 | Ezekiel Rain and The Fight Against Trafficking

EP 26 | Ezekiel Rain and The Fight Against Trafficking

In this episode of Until All Are Free, Preston is joined by Joel Karum of Ezekiel Rain.

Joel is the co-founder of the Thai nonprofit Ezekiel Rain, and he’s also on the board of The Exodus Road Thailand. Through over a decade of working with Ezekiel Rain, Joel Karum has become a leading expert in building resilient communities to prevent exploitation in Thailand. The organization emphasizes models that center around building strong families, including combating pornography’s role in perpetuating cultural and individual harm.

Joel has also been a friend of The Exodus Road since its inception, and the podcast proved to be inspiring and enlightening!

Jul 11, 202239:33
EP 25 | Ethical Storytelling with Amber Van Schooneveld

EP 25 | Ethical Storytelling with Amber Van Schooneveld

In this episode of Until All Are Free, Preston is joined by Amber Van Schooneveld to discuss what ethical storytelling looks like for nonprofits.

Amber Van Schooneveld is the Senior Marketing Director at The Exodus Road. She has an extensive background in nonprofit marketing and storytelling, having worked as Managing Editor (among other roles) with Compassion International for nearly 13 years. Amber leads the Marketing Department in the process of identifying stories from our countries of operation in order to share updates and celebrations with our community.

Preston and Amber chat about what it means to commit to ethical storytelling at The Exodus Road and why we have chosen to not use real imagery of survivors from raids in our communications. They also discuss a few specific cases and the opportunities that they presented to our team at our U.S. office. All of this and more!

Jun 08, 202238:20
EP 24 | UPDATE : Maria Is Home!

EP 24 | UPDATE : Maria Is Home!

UPDATE EPISODE : In EP 11 of Until All Are Free, we introduced you to the story of Maria, a young Kenyan woman who was exploited in a labor trafficking scheme that saw her separated from her family and living in Saudi Arabia.

The big news is that Maria is now back home with her family in Kenya and employed as an elementary school teacher as a result of The Exodus Road's Survivor Fund! This episode features more exclusive audio from Maria and also looks back on the circumstances of her story as told in EP 11. 

May 18, 202243:22
EP 23 | Training Brazil's Law Enforcement with Gabriela Aquino & Cintia Meirelles de Azevedo

EP 23 | Training Brazil's Law Enforcement with Gabriela Aquino & Cintia Meirelles de Azevedo

"Making trafficking dangerous." It's a phrase that we often use to describe our work at The Exodus Road, and it refers to the way that the process of investigation, intervention, arrest, and prosecution discourages traffickers by making the crime riskier.

The guests on this episode of Until All Are Free are doing just that. Preston had the honor of hearing from Gabriela Aquino, Chief of Investigation of Organized Crime with the Brazilian Federal Police, as well as Cintia Meirelles de Azevedo, the Brazilian Liaison for The Exodus Road.

Gabriela is a lead presenter in TraffickWatch Academy, a training platform developed by The Exodus Road and deployed amongst law enforcement in Brazil. The curriculum of TraffickWatch Academy is actively helping to train law enforcement to see and respond to the crime of human trafficking throughout the country and is already having tangible effects as several successful rescue operations have occurred as a result of the training.

Learn more about TraffickWatch Academy by visiting: theexodusroad.com/traffickwatch

Apr 14, 202227:32
EP 22 | Social Media + Human Trafficking with Karn Thanaklit

EP 22 | Social Media + Human Trafficking with Karn Thanaklit

EP 22 in two acts: First, Preston introduces you to Karn, Country Director of The Exodus Road's operations in Thailand. Karn shares stories from his teams' experience in the fight against human trafficking on social media in 2021 –– including investigations that have begun on Twitter and Facebook and led to successful rescue and arrest operations.

Then we bring the conversation back to the United States and talk with The Exodus Road CEO and Founder, Laura Parker, to hear about one practical step that everyone can take to help protect those vulnerable to human trafficking in our families, neighborhood, community, and world.

Feb 14, 202230:31
EP 21 | No Longer Untouchable
Jan 31, 202235:25
EP 20 | On-Site At An Aftercare Shelter with Fundación Renacer and Luz Stella Cardenas Ovalle
Nov 19, 202121:38
EP 19 | Dismantling Digital Exploitation with Emily Kennedy and Marinus Analytics

EP 19 | Dismantling Digital Exploitation with Emily Kennedy and Marinus Analytics

Emily Kennedy is a Co-Founder and Advisor to Marinus Analytics, an artificial intelligence company focused on protecting the vulnerable and ending systemic exploitation by serving those who work on the frontlines of public safety by developing technology that disrupts human trafficking, child abuse, and cyber fraud.

Emily previously served as President of Marinus and has been recognized and celebrated as a Forbes 30 Under 30, a Toyota Mother of Invention, and one of Entrepreneur’s Most Powerful Women.

Joining us on this episode of Until All Are Free, Preston had the honor of talking with Emily about the development of Marinus’ flagship ai-powered platform,
TrafficJam, which saved law enforcement an estimated 70,000 investigative hours in 2020 alone. We also talked about her journey with the issue of human trafficking, the podcast that she hosts (The Empower Podcast), and what healthy nonprofit leadership can look like amidst the demands of our modern world.

Oct 08, 202138:46
EP 18 | City of Sound
Sep 08, 202126:30
EP 17 | Our Only Weapon is Our Courage: Fighting Human Trafficking in Latin America
Aug 18, 202126:10
EP 16 | A Filmmaker's Experience on the Front Lines of the Fight Against Human Trafficking

EP 16 | A Filmmaker's Experience on the Front Lines of the Fight Against Human Trafficking

This episode Preston is joined by DELTA* operative and TER board member, Nate Griffin. Nate is an Executive Producer working within the film industry. His company, Grateful Inconvenience Inc., most recently produced the television series, Connected: A Search for Unity. The series features Monty Moran, former CEO of Chipotle Mexican Grill, as he travels across the U.S. and Canada talking with people about their unique perspectives on life, culture, the environment, politics, immigration and social media.

You can follow Nate's work on Instagram at @kanakanate.


*The Exodus Road primarily supports police in evidence gathering for cases of human trafficking. Working with teams of nationals, we deploy trained and highly vetted Western operatives to help with identifying current victims, gathering intelligence, building evidence packages for police, and supporting operations. We call this team DELTA Team.

While the process and work is challenging and daunting, it is also highly effective. Evidence is gathered, cases are delivered, rescues and arrests are empowered on the front lines.

Jul 26, 202133:06
EP 15 | Meninadança and Matt Roper

EP 15 | Meninadança and Matt Roper

The BR-116 is the second-longest highway in all of Brazil. At nearly 2,800 miles or 4,500 KM long, it winds its way through bustling metropolis cities like Rio de Janeiro and scarcely populated towns throughout the country. While the road contains much beauty, it also holds dark secrets.

On this episode of Until All Are Free, we are joined by Matt Roper, a British journalist and the author of Highway to Hell: The Road where Childhoods Are Stolen.

Matt shares his experiences alongside trafficking victims and at-risk youth in Brazil, as well as the dark nature of the extraordinarily long road that serves as a gateway for the sexual exploitation of thousands of Brazil's youngest.

May 14, 202138:15
EP 14 | TER in 2021. Prevention, Intervention, and Aftercare.

EP 14 | TER in 2021. Prevention, Intervention, and Aftercare.

In this episode, we welcome CEO and Co-Founder, Matt Parker, to share exciting developments about the program work of The Exodus Road in 2021.
The Exodus Road is strategically expanding its footprint in the prevention, intervention, and aftercare spaces of the fight against human trafficking. Matt shares about The Exodus Road's vision for its Beyond Rescue Program and the very first aftercare shelter directly ran by TER's team. We also learn about the expansion of TER's Search + Rescue program in Southeast Asia, as well as exciting opportunities for TER to train 17,000 Brazilian law enforcement officers through TraffickWatch, the prevention arm of The Exodus Road.
May 14, 202136:14
EP 13 | Jamie Beck – Free To Thrive
Mar 04, 202138:19
EP 12 | Ben Cooley + Hope for Justice
Feb 12, 202130:41
EP 11 | Labor Trafficking | Maria's Story

EP 11 | Labor Trafficking | Maria's Story

How would you respond if met with a potential trafficking scenario face-to-face? In this latest episode of Until All Are Free, you’ll hear the story of Maria, a Kenyan woman, told by Sarah Ray, human rights educator and activist.
The two women met in an airport in Dubai early in 2020, as Maria was en route to Saudi Arabia for a domestic job. Maria was traveling with a group of Kenyan women who were prepared to hand over their passports in exchange for work in the middle eastern country.
What unfolds is a story of friendship, perseverance, and an intimate glimpse into a labor trafficking situation.
Jan 07, 202138:22
Special Teaser & A Note of Thanks!

Special Teaser & A Note of Thanks!

Cheers to you, listeners! You've journeyed with us throughout one of the toughest years in recent history, and we're so grateful. We have one more episode in 2020, so keep an eye on your feed and take a listen here to get a sneak peek.
Dec 15, 202002:36
EP 10 | Hostage at the Disco
Dec 03, 202023:20
EP 09 | In a Car with a Trafficker

EP 09 | In a Car with a Trafficker

CASE UPDATE: In Episode 04, Matt shared the story of his return to an alley that he had glimpsed in passing once before, years earlier.  He encountered a group of young girls being trafficked on a side street and sent our operatives back to investigate.

In this episode of Until All Are Free, we pick the story back up and hear from an investigator who was sent down that alley to capture evidence of trafficking.

To learn more about the investigative work that The Exodus Road performs, visit our website at theexodusroad.com

Oct 30, 202014:31
EP 08 | David Zach

EP 08 | David Zach

From rockstar to covert operative. On this episode of Until All Are Free Preston is joined by David Zach, the frontman of Remedy Drive. David speaks about his own experiences on the front lines of the fight against human trafficking. David has worked extensively as an undercover operative with The Exodus Road, and allows for his experiences to shape and form the music that he has produced.


To learn more about the work of David and Remedy Drive, visit https://remedydrive.com/.

Oct 12, 202034:25
EP 07 | Apps, Devices, and Sexting. Protecting Kids Online.

EP 07 | Apps, Devices, and Sexting. Protecting Kids Online.

In this episode of Until All Are Free we are joined by Cheryl Kosmerl, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over 16 years of experience working alongside minors with hands-on sex offenses or boundary offenses.

Her experiences in the clinical field led her to the creation of Sexting Solutions and co-creation of
Hashtag Parenting. Sexting Solutions is a class-based (cohort modeled) option that serves as an alternative for minors who would otherwise be caught in the legal system. Hashtag Parenting is an online resource that equips parents with the tools they need to help their kid(s) with healthy digital practices from the earliest stages of their childhood.

Sep 21, 202032:40
EP 06 | Cindy's Rescue

EP 06 | Cindy's Rescue

In the world of systemic human trafficking, there are major crime syndicates that provide the mechanism and framework for sexual exploitation to take place. In this episode of Until All Are Free, Matt joins Preston and Isaac and shares the story of Cindy, a mother who finds herself stuck halfway around the world in a reality far from what she would have imagined.

Aug 30, 202037:28
EP 05 | Courtney from Free the Girls

EP 05 | Courtney from Free the Girls

A survivor's journey through rescue, aftercare, and integration requires the coordinated effort of many people who are committed to restoration. In this episode of Until All Are Free, Laura Parker, the President and Co-Founder of The Exodus Road, shares an interview with Courtney Skiera-Vaughn, the Executive Director of Free the Girls. Free The Girls trains and equips female survivors of human trafficking in El Salvador, Costa Rica, and Mozambique to become entrepreneurs in the business of selling bras in their local markets.
Aug 07, 202033:12
EP 04 | Pin Drop

EP 04 | Pin Drop

"It wasn't the only alley I was going down, it was just the alley I couldn't figure out how to get back to." - Matt Parker

Seven years ago, Matt Parker was in a taxi speeding toward his hotel on an unknown route through Bangkok at midnight. He glimpsed a flash of an obscure back alley where he saw young girls for sale. As soon as he realized what he had seen, it was gone.

Seven years later, Matt returned to this back alley in a chance encounter on another taxi ride. Listen to the episode to hear the full story, and learn about the operation in progress to rescue these trafficked victims.

Jul 09, 202024:04
EP 03 | Bird in Chains

EP 03 | Bird in Chains

Laura Parker (TER President) talks with female Delta Operative, Sarah, about her experience on the front lines of the fight against human trafficking. Sarah shares details from the vulnerable moments with trafficking victims and explains the extraordinary sequence of events that led an ordinary woman to become a covert operative with The Exodus Road.


The Exodus Road is a global organization fighting human trafficking by gathering evidence, facilitating rescue missions, and empowering aftercare for survivors. Learn more about our organization by visiting theexodusroad.com.

Want to be the first to know when a rescue takes place? Sign up for our Rescue Texts by texting "ER" to 51555.

Host: Preston Goff

Producer: Isaac Leigh

Internal Themes: Lucas Leigh

Intro & Outro Recordings: City of Sound

Jun 22, 202032:45
EP 02 | Drew & Delta Operatives

EP 02 | Drew & Delta Operatives

Drew, an Army Special Forces soldier turned Delta Operative, sits down with us to give exclusive stories of his experiences in investigation and rescue. He shares the details from his very first successful rescue operation (the story of Phim).  Delta Operatives at The Exodus Road are volunteers who have been vetted and trained to support the national operatives who live and work on the front lines of the fight against human trafficking.


The Exodus Road is a global organization fighting human trafficking by gathering evidence, facilitating rescue missions, and empowering aftercare for survivors. Learn more about our organization by visiting theexodusroad.com.

Want to be the first to know when a rescue takes place? Sign up for our Rescue Texts by texting "ER" to 51555.

Host: Preston Goff

Producer: Isaac Leigh

Internal Themes: Lucas Leigh

Intro & Outro Recordings: City of Sound

Jun 01, 202031:49
EP 01 | Our Very First Rescue
Apr 22, 202044:41