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The Legaling Show

The Legaling Show

By Clarence Ling

Clarence Ling worked as a lawyer in Western Australia and now runs a digital marketing agency for lawyers, Marketlytics Marketing Agency.

He hosts The Legaling Show, interviewing other lawyers and professionals with special interest in the legal profession to talk about what lawyers care about.

This is not strictly a marketing podcast, though it can be discussed, but a show by lawyers, for lawyers, talking about issues in the profession.
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Ep 11: What Branding Means And Why Its Important To Law Firms (Michael Bromley, Beyond Billables)

The Legaling ShowAug 30, 2021

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Ep 12: Differentiation In The Modern Practice Of Law (Joana Oakey, Aspect Legal)
Jul 11, 202228:54
Ep 11: What Branding Means And Why Its Important To Law Firms (Michael Bromley, Beyond Billables)
Aug 30, 202118:11
Ep 10: Kaushik Prakash & Ethan Brooke (Valeo Legal Marketing) SEO vs Paid Ads For Law Firm Marketing
Aug 17, 202150:27
Ep 9: Tom Monks (Tom & Co Legal) Representing NDIS Participants & NDIS Issues

Ep 9: Tom Monks (Tom & Co Legal) Representing NDIS Participants & NDIS Issues

Tom & Co Legal is a relatively new legal firm in Perth, Western Australia. Tom Monks has had a long history with the law and has structured his practice like a partial social enterprise, but as a profitable business. As a person with disability, he has a passion for disability advocacy and the NDIS. He regularly represents people in NDIS matters. He was recently featured by the ABC on the topic of the NDIS. The agenda:

  • Tell me about yourself
  • Do you think the NDIS is effective?
  • Why do you think it remains ineffective?
  • Do potential NDIS participants need legal representation and when?
  • Were there problems with previous systems and is there hope for disabled people to get the help they need?
Jul 06, 202132:27
Ep 8: Andi Warda (Outwest Legal) New Law Firm Smell

Ep 8: Andi Warda (Outwest Legal) New Law Firm Smell

Andi Warda has just founded Outwest Legal in western Sydney. We explore his motivations and challenges starting a new firm. This is a candid look into starting a new law firm as a lawyer.

  • Tell me about Outwest Legal, how did it come about?
  • What motivated you to make this career change?
  • How does it feel at this time into your business?
  • Do you recommend lawyers do the same as you and at what stage or point in their career?
May 04, 202119:36
Ep 7: Peter McKay (WHS Share) Lego n Legal, Excellent Digital Media Plan Example For Lawyers

Ep 7: Peter McKay (WHS Share) Lego n Legal, Excellent Digital Media Plan Example For Lawyers

Peter McKay is an admitted lawyer and runs a health and safety business called WHS Share. He conceptualised "Lego n Legal", which is an excellent example of what digital marketers coin a "Digital Media Plan". We delve in a bit on how he got there, and some considerations he had whilst running it.

We make brief mention of the Piddington Society as he highly recommends them as they helped with his admission as a lawyer.

Apr 06, 202125:37
Ep 6: Kim Wiegand (Julip Advisory, Beaton) Making The Most Out Of Networking And Mentorship As A Lawyer

Ep 6: Kim Wiegand (Julip Advisory, Beaton) Making The Most Out Of Networking And Mentorship As A Lawyer

Kim Wiegand is Founder of Julip Advisory and Partner of Beaton Research and Consulting. Kim's an advocate for gender equality and well known in women in law circles. We answer the following questions:

  • Can you explain the difference of a CMO/Marketing Manager and a specialist digital marketer and why there is no conflict, but sometimes great benefit of using both at once?
  • What's something that you see that impacts all lawyers throughout their career?
  • How can people add value to their network?
  • Do you think lawyers need a mentor or coach?
  • How do you activate your network?
  • What's the most important trait in building your network? What should people avoid when building your network?
Mar 23, 202131:16
Ep 5: Fionn Bowd (Bowd) A Law Firm For Law Firms, And Hybrid Work Emerging From COVID

Ep 5: Fionn Bowd (Bowd) A Law Firm For Law Firms, And Hybrid Work Emerging From COVID

Fionn (pronounced "Finn") is the CEO of Bowd (sometimes known as Bowd Lawyers), a law firm for law firms. Bowd is responsible for providing legal experts to law firms large and small who require them. Fionn, who has a rich experience in both private practice and in-house, we discuss:

  • What does Bowd specialise in?
  • Why do you think there is a need for this type of service?
  • How has COVID affected the long term behaviour of firms in terms of remote work?
  • Do you think law firms are prepared for hybrid work?
  • What is the impact of the COVID control laws?
  • What advice do you give to junior lawyers in this era?
Mar 16, 202142:49
Ep 4: Kyle Kimball (Sajen Legal) Insolvency Practice & Honey Badgers

Ep 4: Kyle Kimball (Sajen Legal) Insolvency Practice & Honey Badgers

Kyle Kimball is a senior insolvency and litigator based in Queensland. His law firm acts as a business advisory for his clients, with long term relationships key to his practice. We discuss:

  • What does Sajen Legal specialise in?
  • The grief of a client losing a business, the enthusiasm of starting a business. What are these two client journeys like?
  • Is insolvency always a bad thing?
  • Networking on LinkedIn, what's Kyle's take?
  • A bit about the Honey Badger
  • Have you heard about Honey Badger Beans Coffee?
Mar 08, 202117:20
Ep 3: From The Vault - Jonathan Mamaril (NB Lawyers) On March 2021 JobKeeper Woes And Contemporary Employment Law Issues

Ep 3: From The Vault - Jonathan Mamaril (NB Lawyers) On March 2021 JobKeeper Woes And Contemporary Employment Law Issues

This is an episode from our archives before The Legaling Show was formalised as a podcast. Jonathan Mamaril runs NB Lawyers - Lawyers for Employers in Queensland. A seasoned employment lawyer, he discusses:

  • How do you distinguish employees from contractors?
  • Wage Theft Bill
  • Casual Workers Bill
  • Understanding Award Rates
  • Issues coming out in Feb/Mar 2021
  • Work from home issues
Mar 03, 202121:47
Ep 2: David Heasley (Heasley Lawyers) Talks About The Defence Contracting Legal Niche

Ep 2: David Heasley (Heasley Lawyers) Talks About The Defence Contracting Legal Niche

David Heasley is the Principal of a commercial and intellectual property law firm, Heasley Lawyers in Melbourne, Victoria. He has a rare expertise in Defence Contracting, dealing with complex contracts between business owners and the Australian Government. Here's what we cover:

  • What does Heasley Lawyers do? What is your legal expertise?
  • How big is the defence contracting industry in Australia?
  • What are the challenges and what is different about defence contracting?
  • Where do your clients get into trouble with defence contracting?
  • What other areas of law do you do?
Feb 22, 202114:22
Ep 1: James d'Apice (Coffee And A Case Note fame) and Clarence Ling Talk about the Legal Profession

Ep 1: James d'Apice (Coffee And A Case Note fame) and Clarence Ling Talk about the Legal Profession

This is the first official podcast episode of what is now known, as The Legaling Show.

Clarence Ling, host and founder of Marketlytics Marketing Agency, is interviewing the prolific lawyer, James d'Apice of Coffee And A Case Note fame, on his thoughts on the legal profession.

We talk about: 

  • What advice would you give to young lawyers?
  • The duty of candour  and balancing it with client interests
  • What's the basic idea of getting your personal brand out there?
  • Are people skills just as important as legal skills? To what degree?
  • Are there any interesting legal developments in Australia?
  • What's the Clubhouse like as someone in it?

This is our debut episode, but we have earlier episodes before it was known as The Legaling Show.

Feb 13, 202131:12