We’re chatting profit, mindset, sales and more with our guest Natalia Amador of Social Business Bosses. There’s so many ah-ha moments in this one, we hope you take notes! Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: http://share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact Natalia: socialbusinessbosses.com instagram.com/socialbusinessbosses facebook.com/socialbusinessbosses pinterest.com/socialbusinessbosses youtube.com/channel/UCXNgJnbaf2nJ7jAQkNzJEsQ socialbusinessbosses.com/thesocial Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud 

We’re chatting all about how to plan for time off in your creative business, whether that’s for a vacation, a staycation, or something longer like maternity leave. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

We're chatting all about trademarks and copyrights with Andrea Sager. Want to know the difference? Want to know if you need a trademark? Wondering what the heck you can copyright? This is the episode for you. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: http://share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact Andrea: facebook.com/andreasagerlaw instagram.com/andreasagerlaw twitter.com/andreasagerlaw andreasager.com/tmchecklist Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud 

In this episode, Joyce and Dianuh talk about what they'd do differently if they could go back in time.  Things Mentioned:  Jeff Walker Launch  Profit First Book  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

So you want to start a creative business? Joyce and Dianuh share the first five steps you need to take as a creative entrepreneur. Things Mentioned: Marie Forleo + Seth Godin Simon Sinek Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

You hear it all the time as a business owner - start an email list. But why? Because your email list is how you deepen your relationship with clients and humanize the sales experience. Katie from Katie Does Marketing shares how you can sell more products through email marketing in this episode.  Contact Katie: katiedoesmarketing.com theshoppop.com instagram.com/katiebsalmon Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Community over competition. It’s something we’ve all heard, but what does it really mean? In this episode, Dianuh and Joyce chat with Rising Tide Founder Natalie Franke about the meaning behind the movement, creating a mission-driven business and more. Contact Natalie nataliefranke.com instagram.com/nataliefranke instagram.com/risingtidesociety Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

It’s your business, so you set the rules. In this episode Dianuh and Joyce chat about stepping into the CEO role and running your business how YOU want to run it.  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we chat about starting a successful Etsy and e-commerce site with Alex Register of KLSD - a  woman-owned company committed to creating positive affirmation lifestyle apparel & wedding goods. Alex shares how she started her online business, how customer service helps with growth, and how having a mission behind your business is key. Contact Alex: www.klsdesign.co instagram.com/klsd.co Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about how to avoid burnout with Ellen McElveen of One Less Thing Management. Listen in as we share ways to avoid burnout as a creative entrepreneur and what to do when you find yourself needing to take a break from your business. Contact Ellen: onelessthingmgmt.com instagram.com/onelessthingmgmt Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Every few months we love sharing our current faves. It could be business or lifestyle-related or it could be completely random and fun. Listen in as we share our favorite products, books, podcasts, and more. Things Mentioned: Quip toothbrush  Atomic Habits book  Asana  Boy brow glossier Orangetheory  Liquid IV powder  Honeybook  Craig Groschel leadership podcast Do Less book  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Hailey is a certified content strategist and founder of Your Content Empire, where she partners with small business owners who are over the shoulds and ready to build their content empires – their way. Through her programs, agency and award-winning, tell-all blog, she’s helped thousands of entrepreneurs create smarter content on a consistent basis that delights them and their customers while growing their bottom lines. Things mentioned: Monthly Content Planning Kit Co-schedule Headline Analyzer  Gary Vee  Contact Hailey: yourcontentempire.com instagram.com/yourcontentempire pinterest.ca/trunkedcreative business.facebook.com/yourcontentempire Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about money management with Katie from More With Money. Whether you’re a 9-5’er, side hustler, or full time creative, knowing how to manage your personal and business finances is key for a healthy business. Things Mentioned: You Need A Budget  Dave Ramsey's 7 Baby Steps Profit First book for business finances Contact Katie: morewithmoney.com morewithmoney.com/cfo-starter-kit instagram.com/katie.morewithmoney Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re sharing tips for making the transition from side hustling creative to full-time entrepreneur. What should you do beforehand, how to know you’re ready, and what you should do once you make the leap - it’s all in this episode. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode we chat with Megan Minns, a mindset and productivity coach who helps women get more done and have more fun in their businesses. Listen in as we share not only productivity tips, but how you can give yourself permission to run your business the way you want. Contact Megan: meganminns.com instagram.com/megan_minns podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-productive-life-with-megan-minns/id1455753410?mt=2m Intuitive Execution Waitlist: bit.ly/ModPodIE Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about how a blogging side hustle turned into a full-time career with multiple revenue streams in today’s episode with Barron from The Effortless Gent.  Contact Barron: effortlessgent.com youtube.com/user/effortlessgenttv instagram.com/effortlessgent barroncuadro.com Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re talking all about pushing past your fears, sharing your truth because someone needs to hear it, and getting out of your own way with our guest Arielle Astoria. Contact Arielle: Website | Instagram Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

 In this episode, we’re chatting all about our experience and lessons learned from hosting our first live event in July!  Things + people mentioned: themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Love Island on CBS + Hulu Social Costa Mesa  Love Anne Joy  Sweet Crumb Bakery Happily Ever Etched SY Kim Photography  Katrina Kim Photography  Martha Pimentel Photography  Honeybelle  Sakura of America  Smitten On Paper  Official Photobooth  Electric Eunice  KLS Design  M.Lovewell Sans Bar  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

 We’re chatting all about working with brands as well as how to build an audience through telling great stories with today’s guest, Laura Iz. Things mentioned: Bio Oil  Contact Laura: www.lauraiz.com instagram.com/lauraiz Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about how to incorporate Pinterest into your marketing strategy. Whether you’re a service or product based business, Pinterest is a free tool you can use to help generate more leads for your business and our guest shows you how.  Contact Jenny: savvysocialhour.com savvypodcastagency.com Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We're chatting all about owning a digital only business with Lisa from Pretty Fabulous Designs. Lisa's online shop only offers digital products and she also teaches creatives how they can do the same using Adobe InDesign.  Contact Lisa: prettyfabulousdesigns.com youtube.com/c/prettyfabulousdesigns Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

This is part two of our interview series and this time, Joyce is interviewing Dianuh. We chat about Dianuh's background, changing your perspective from starving artist to business owner, and how niching down can be a good thing. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We're doing something a little different for this episode and Dianuh is actually interviewing Joyce about business coaching. We dive into who needs a coach, what working with a coach is really like, different ways to work with coaches, and how to find your own business coach. We also chat about how and why Joyce pivoted into helping creatives go from hobbies to businesses. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode we’re chatting with all about mindset. Now, wherever you fall on the “woo woo” spectrum, mindset is a key in business growth. Strategy and sales not the only things that will help your business grow. Our guest Andrea Michel chats about identifying and overcoming any limiting beliefs that may be holding you and your business back, as well as ways to overcome them.  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: http://share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact Andrea: andreamichel.com instagram.com/andreamichelconsulting Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Dream about getting your artwork on products and seeing those products in stores? Our guest Jenna Rainey is an educator and author and in this episode, she shares the ins and outs of licensing your art. We talk about going from starving to thriving artist, recognizing trends, and share how you can get started licensing your work. Contact Jenna: jennarainey.com instagram.com/jennarainey Get on the waitlist for Jenna's licensing course:  jennarainey.com/brand-plus-brand/ Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting about ways to increase the visibility of your business without paying for ads. We believe ads have a time and place in your marketing strategy, but we’re sharing other ways to get more eyeballs on your creative business in this episode. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting about ways creative business owners can begin to implement video into their marketing and visibility strategies. Our guest Estrella Sansait of La Chispa Studio also shares tips on how to get more comfortable being in front of the camera. Things Mentioned: Davinci Resolve Contact Estrella: lachispastudio.com instagram.com/lachispastudio Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode we’re sharing our biggest business flops. We share our mistakes, lessons we learned, and how you can make sure you don’t make the same mistakes. Things Mentioned: Pricing Episode Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we’re chatting all about products and wholesale with Sherry of Esselle SF. Sherry tells us how she started in wholesale products, filling a void in the marketplace, building a brand away from Etsy, and partnering with national brands like Madewell. Things Mentioned: Joyce's fave candle from Esselle Esselle on Madewell Contact Sherry: essellesf.com instagram.com/essellesf kinfolkinspiredspace.com Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode we chat about pivoting in business, changing business directions, and adding new offerings. We also talk about when it makes sense to pivot in your business. Joyce shares how she completely changed her business focus and Dianuh talks about adding new services to hers. We also talk about rebranding and knowing if and when you should pivot. Things mentioned Join us at our live conference this July Mean Girls Rap  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting about the one tool that you NEED if you’re a creative business owner who works with clients. It helps with productivity, organization, finances, and more. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode we’re chatting with the Lex who is the owner of Punkpost, a company that uses tech and the human touch to create and deliver beautiful hand lettered cards. Lex shares how she built a business centered around a community of hand lettering artists. Contact Lex + Punkpost: punkpost.com punkpost.co/scriptist-application instagram.com/punkpostco Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting all about the good business habits we’ve implemented in our respective businesses. We all know having good habits leads to success, so we’re excited to share. Things mentioned: Reina Pomeroy - CEO Report Product Boss Podcast - Task Quadrant Best Self Journal  Hot Pink Leuchtturm Softcover Composition Notebook [Berry] Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting about time management for creative with our guest, owner and baker of Sweetlee Made, Cindy Lee.  Contact Cindy: Instagram Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting about art theft, the dangers of stealing someone’s art, and how to handle your work being copied. Our guest also shares tips on reposting etiquette and the importance of differentiating your work. Things mentioned: https://themoderncreativepodcast.com/episodes/ep-030 Contact Katie: theuncommonplace.com instagram.com/theuncommonplace Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re sharing our current faves. We talk about apps, books, clothing and more. Be sure to check out the rest of the show notes for links to everything we mention. Things mentioned: Dianuh:  Sans bar  Phone stand Equal Uprise  Marco Polo App Piper and Scoot (Promo Code: "chasinglinen15" to save 15%) Joyce: Chillpreneur by Denise Duffield Thomas Noteability App Pink chair from Wayfair GLDN Jewelry Water flosser China's podcast episode about branding - https://themoderncreativepodcast.com/episodes/ep-009 Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting about building a team after facing something that could have lead to the end of business with our guest Genie of E2Beauty.  Things mentioned: Big Talk Strength Finder Contact Genie e2beauty.com instagram.com/e2beauty Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting about social media strategy, what to post to connect with your audience, types of things to post, and how much you should share of your personal life. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting about why we think in-person connections are crucial in running a creative business. We also share more details about our own event, The Modern Creative Conference, happening this July in Costa Mesa. Things mentioned: Conference on July 26th in Costa Mesa, CA - Click for more info  Nicole Miyuki episode Game of Thrones dinner Get 50% off your first year of HoneyBook Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

esleevs.com instagram.com/eslee In this episode, we’re chatting about being a traveling artist with photographer Esther Lee. We also talk about the pros and cons to living a laptop lifestyle, finding purpose, balancing work and marriage, and more. So even if you’re not a photographer - I know you’ll find a ton of helpful info. Contact Esther: esleevs.com instagram.com/eslee Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode, we’re chatting about what they don’t tell you about working for yourself. There are pros and cons to everything in life, so we’re getting real and sharing the not so great things of creative entrepreneurship. We chat about feeling lonely, difficulty NOT having a boss  tell you what to do, and more Things mentioned: EP 13 - Finding your business BFF EP 6 - Investing in your business Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat all about contracts, why they’re important for your creative business, and who needs them with Annette Stepanian, Your Legal BFF. We also answer your legal questions during a Q+A.  Favorite gem from Annette in this episode: “Make that commitment and decision to treat this as truly a business versus a hobby. And if it’s a hobby, great, but if you’re going to be in business, be in business.” Contact Annette: Website GDRP episode mentioned during Q+A here. Helpful resources + templates from Annette: Let’s Get Down To Business Training: https://annette-stepanian.mykajabi.com/a/9001/5hRS4cFa Website Terms + Privacy Policy: https://annette-stepanian.mykajabi.com/a/8988/5hRS4cFa Other contract templates: https://annette-stepanian.mykajabi.com/a/9006/5hRS4cFa Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we’re chatting with Wendy of The Tax Muse, a California based CPA. She’s answering the top things creative business owners must do when starting a business and the common mistakes she sees creatives make. You definitely don’t have to be located in California to learn so much about what we need to be aware of as creative business owners. Wendy’s also answering the questions we received from you, our listeners! Contact Wendy Website | Instagram Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about sharing what you know and getting started with teaching workshops! We both still teach in-person workshops and chat about the good, the not so good, and the rewarding aspects of sharing your knowledge. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Today we’re talking about creative funks, what to do when they happen, and why it’s ok. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’ve shared how to find your first clients. Now, we’re sharing how to figure out your pricing for services, products, and courses.   Things mentioned: Spongebob Fun Song: https://youtu.be/tdOflj-esBA Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We’re chatting all about finding your first clients in this episode! Tips on your ideal client, creating a portfolio, and sharing your work are discussed. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we answer your questions about content, Instagram, rebranding, and more. [00:45] How do you create so much content for your IG, blogs, emails etc [05:45] What about how to use Instagram for marketing your art [08:25] Tips on re-branding your business [12:28] How to pitch to companies to do live art/lettering around the holidays [18:00] Tips on bookkeeping, tax filings, hiring a CPA Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s mini episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about health + wellness, plus the things we’ve incorporated into our lives that have helped us feel better, deal with work/biz stress, and help our overall well-being. Incorporating these things has helped us be more productive and efficient creative business owners. Things mentioned: Acupuncture / cupping CBD lotion / oil  Magnesium glycinate + calcium Morning routines (journaling, reading, meditating, lighting candles, pulling cards) Fitbit  Scheduling workouts + moving daily  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Dianuh & Joyce are chatting all about lessons learned in 2018, individual goals for 2019, and fun things planned for the podcast. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud Things mentioned: Creative Biz Bootcamps - Group Coaching 1:1 Business coaching Watercolor Bootcamp Tuff Shed

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast, Dianuh and Joyce are sharing 5 things they’re into right now.  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud Items mentioned: Tuff Shed Watercolor brush Unfold app Acupuncture Curling iron ClickUp Affirmators cards Mochi Things planner Best Self Journal My Soul CBD oil

We're chatting with Susan Chiang about what happens when you HAVE to quit your day job due to health vs WANTING to quit your day job - and turning to art in order to heal. Quitting scene mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqeXSYc8nE Contact Susan: raeandlily.com instagram.com/raeandlily Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In this minisode of the Modern Creative Podcast, Joyce and Dianuh share the top five things you need to do when starting a creative business.  Mentioned in the episode: Wave Apps Asana Trello Airtable Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat with Nicole Miyuki Santo about staying true to your why, yourself and your mission. We also have a special giveaway so check out the details below. Contact Nicole: nicolemiyuki.com instagram.com/nicolemiyuki Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

Joyce and Dianuh are chatting about switching off that side of your brain that wants to keep working. They also give some tips on how to separate work and life and share what they do when they’re not working. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Music by Joakim Karud

We're chatting with Eunice of Electric Eunice about creating real connection that turns followers into a community. Eunice also shares tips about growing your following. Contact Eunice:  electriceunice.com instagram.com/electriceunice Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat with Jenny of Happily Ever Etched about growing and managing a team, moving from an Etsy shop to your own website and more. Contact Jenny: happilyeveretched.com instagram.com/happilyeveretched Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

We’re back with another minisode this week and chatting about client relationships. We’re answering a question we received from our Instagram: What should you do if a client relationship doesn’t work? We’re sharing 5 tips on how to deal with the situation and to make sure you’re partnering with clients you enjoy working with. Contract Templates: http://bit.ly/TCSContractTemplates Contact us: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/themoderncreativepodcast Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: writeprettythings.com instagram.com/writeprettythings Music by Joakim Karud http://youtube.com/joakimkarud

Having a community of other creative business owners who understand you is so important, especially when you’re a solopreneur. Whether you’re an introvert or an extrovert, working solo all the time is lonely and sometimes hard! So in today’s episode, we share 5 tips to find your business BFF.  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about being authentically you when it comes to your creative business with Shinah of Crooked Calligraphy. Contact Shinah: crookedcalligraphy.com instagram.com/crookedcalligraphy Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about publishing a creative book with Jess Park, author of Watercolor Lettering. [02:15] What’s your background & how did the book deal come to be? Connect with Jess: instagram.com/jeshypark Amazon: amazon.com/Watercolor-Lettering-Step-Step-Embellished/dp/1612438342 B&N: m.barnesandnoble.com/w/watercolor-lettering-jessica-park/1127969862?ean=9781612438344 Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat more about our backgrounds, how we got into business and how we came up with our business names. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about DIYing your branding with China from Olive Creative Co. Connect with China: olivecreativeco.com instagram.com/olivecreativeco Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we answer your questions about business! Listen in to hear about knowing when you’re ready to start a business, different business models you can try, the scariest thing about owning your business and more. [01:26] Q: What’s the scariest thing about working for yourself [05:41] Q: I’d love to hear about different models for making money as a letterer and pros/cons [13:35] Q: How to keep up with marketing or even start it especially when word of mouth (friends and family) isn’t helping [18:51] Q: How do I know when I’m ready to start a business because I feel like my skill still isn’t good enough [22:33] Q: Was there a turning point in the beginning that really propelled your biz to the next level Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about starting your email list and why it’s so important for your creative business. We also discuss some tips on finding your copy/voice, what to include in your emails and more. Contact Aleia: aleiawalker.com Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about why it’s so important to invest in your business and ways to invest in your business and yourself - from free resources to paid options. Things mentioned in the episode: Asana - Project management Trello - Project management Basecamp - Project management Quickbooks Self Employed - Accounting software Marco Polo - Messaging app Loom - Extension for Chrome, records videos Honeybook - CRM tool Dubsado - CRM tool Fiverr - Freelance jobs  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about supporting your fellow creatives with Shelly Kim from Letters By Shells. We chat about making genuine connections with people online (and off), not competing with each other and overcoming that scarcity mindset and share ways to support each other and create community. Contact Shelly at:  lettersbyshells.com instagram.com/lettersbyshells Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about comparison and how we avoid falling into the trap of comparing numbers, likes, businesses and art on Instagram. We also share some tips on how you can stop comparing and start feeling inspired by Instagram again. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about five common fears about creative entrepreneurship and tips on how to overcome those fears.  Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

In today’s episode of the Modern Creative Podcast we chat about how we answer the “but what do you really do” question we so often get as creative business owners. We also chat about how we deal with the misconception of creatives not being able to earn money from their passion and share a bit more about what our days are really like. [0:27] Explaining what you do + what we answer when asked “but what do you do”  [6:59] Can you make money doing this?  [18:35] What Dianuh + Joyce really do all day  [24:22] Recap + owning that you ARE a business owner Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud

Welcome to our first episode of the Modern Creative Podcast! In this mini episode we share a little bit more about ourselves and our hopes and goals for TMCP. Get 50% off your first year of Honeybook: share.honeybook.com/themoderncreative Contact us at: themoderncreativepodcast.com instagram.com/moderncreativepodcast themoderncreativepodcast.com/waitlist-2020 Contact Dianuh: chasinglinen.com instagram.com/chasinglinen Contact Joyce: moderncreativepursuits.com instagram.com/_joycechristine Watch the free training: bit.ly/MCPScalePod Music by Joakim Karud