Skip to main content
The Purpose of Finance

The Purpose of Finance

By Pension Insurance Corporation

The podcast brought to you by Pension Insurance Corporation to explore the relationship between finance and society and the agenda for greater transparency and Purpose by looking at key issues. Each programme sheds light on an aspect of finance from Levelling Up to Housing to bring insight, wisdom and perspective from leading industry commentators from the frontline of finance, politics, business and academia. Produced by Editorial Intelligence for PIC.

Music: Simon Mathewson, Kevin McLeod.
Available on
Apple Podcasts Logo
Spotify Logo
Currently playing episode

Housing Trends

The Purpose of FinanceAug 22, 2022

00:00
30:43
Levelling up – A spotlight on the West Midlands

Levelling up – A spotlight on the West Midlands

In today's episode hosted by Stefan Stern we spotlight the West Midlands. Andy Street, Mayor of the West Midlands, explains how he is succeeding in regenerating the region by creating the framework and partnerships to successfully attract billions of Pounds of investment into housing, university buildings, and infrastructure - to mention just three areas - from the UK's long-term financial institutions. Mr Street explains his plans for attracting more inward investment, and how levelling up might be achieved across the UK.

Mar 13, 202324:41
Levelling up in 2023 – Can it be kick-started?

Levelling up in 2023 – Can it be kick-started?

Contemplating the UK's economic prospects for 2023 and the severe financial constraints on the Government, are there really options for Local Authorities and Central Government to fund key urban regeneration projects, creating jobs and real social value? Yes, according to our panellists, and salvation could come from partnerships with long-term institutional investors with billions of Pounds to invest in infrastructure, energy and new housing across the UK.

Stefan Stern hosts the latest series of the Purpose of Finance podcasts, which take a look at the powerful financial, regulatory and cultural issues that form the relationship between finance and society and specifically how the pensions we save for are helping to build the country. In today’s fascinating episode we hear from pensions specialist John Ralfe, James Agar, head of long income for PIC, Liane Hartley, founder of MEND, the organisation for social cities and considerate urbanism, and Tom Forth from Open Innovations and Data City, who is interested in using data to make cities more prosperous and better places to live.

Feb 06, 202328:41
Housing Trends

Housing Trends

In this final episode for this series we continue to look at housing. We are joined by Sadie Morgan OBE, Stirling-Prize-winning architect of dRMM Architects, plus the FT's property correspondent, George Hammond, Phil Mayall, a director at the national regeneration company, Muse Developments, and Nigel Bosworth, who is the head of residential management at Savills.

Aug 22, 202230:43
Build to Rent: The Risks and Rewards

Build to Rent: The Risks and Rewards

In this 3 rd look at Real Assets in relation to the Purpose of Finance, we look at the picture overall with PIC’s CEO Tracy Blackwell, Dr. Stanimira Milcheva, a professor in Real Estate Finance at the University College London, Michael Howard, the founder and Managing Director of urbanbubble, an award winning property operator, and Paul Nash, who as a former President of the Chartered Institute of Building now advises property owners, developers and funds in the UK.

Aug 15, 202229:30
An Introduction to Build to Rent

An Introduction to Build to Rent

In today’s episode we’re taking a look at Build-to-Rent, a type of development that PIC, and other institutions are beginning to invest in heavily. Today we’ll explore some of the reasons why, with Jeremy Apfel of PIC; Emanuele Midolo, property correspondent at the Times; Jo Cowen, an award-winning architect and CEO of Jo Cowen Architects who specialise in the Build-to-Rent industry; Ian Fletcher, Director of Policy at British Property Federation and a long-time champion of Build-to-Rent, and Raj Kotecha, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Amro Real Estate Partners.

Aug 08, 202230:13
Real Assets

Real Assets

In today’s episode we're looking at long term investments for social purpose and sound financial return. Joining the podcast is Nigel Kershaw OBE, Executive Chairman of the Big Issue Group, Hayley Rees of PIC, and Emeritus Professor Michael Ball of Henley Business School, plus Miles Lewis, Head of Sustainability at the construction firm, Lendlease, and PIC’s CEO Tracy Blackwell as we discuss perspectives on long term investment in real estate real assets, with hosts, Emma Nelson and Julia Hobsbawm.

Aug 01, 202232:05
Politics & Risks of Levelling Up

Politics & Risks of Levelling Up

Our 4th special look at Levelling Up and how finance can play its part in meeting society’s changing needs hears from Polly MacKenzie, formerly a Government insider in the Coalition Government, Peter Foster, the Public Policy Editor of the Financial Times, Al Mathers, director of research at the Royal Society for Arts, and Paul Swinney, who is the Director of Policy and Research at the Centre for Cities.

Jul 18, 202226:07
Social Value

Social Value

This third deep dive into Levelling Up looks at how the finance sector plays its part. We hear from Alan Evans, Director of Regeneration and Place at Wirral Borough Council, Eleanor Shearer from the Institute of Government, Steve Hughes of WPI Strategy and philanthropist and impact investor Patricia Hamzahee.

Jul 04, 202231:19
The Geography of Levelling Up

The Geography of Levelling Up

This episode, our second on Levelling Up, looks locally and regionally at what Levelling Up means, how we get there and how the pensions we save for can play a role in delivering successful policy. Guests are Dr Henry Kippin, Managing Director of the North of Tyne Combined Authority,  Lucy Nethsingha leader of the Liberal Democrat group on Cambridgeshire County Council, and Richard Burge, CEO of the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Plus William Wright, founder and chairman of financial forum and think-tank New Financial.

Jun 13, 202230:18
Levelling Up: The North West

Levelling Up: The North West

We open our new series by looking at Levelling Up from the North West of England with an exclusive interview with Andy Burnham, Mayor of Manchester, plus contributions from Richard Jones, Associate Vice-President for Innovation and Regional Economic Development at the University of Manchester and Richard Holden, MP for North West Durham as we explore the North-South divide and ask what really moves the needle on creating a more equitable society – and what role is finance playing?

Jun 01, 202230:60
How Can We Re-shape Financial Markets to Create Fairer Capitalism?

How Can We Re-shape Financial Markets to Create Fairer Capitalism?

In the final episode we look at whether it is possible to reconnect society with capitalism, through the redistribution of wealth. Can we re-shape financial markets to create fairer capitalism and can wider share ownership give more people a meaningful stake in wealth creation?

Featuring commentary from Bim Afolami, MP; Dambisa Moyo, global economist and author; Iain Martin, columnist at The Times and Deborah Hargreaves, founder and director of the think tank The High Pay Centre.
May 25, 202027:57
The Long-term Consequences of Short-term Thinking

The Long-term Consequences of Short-term Thinking

Is short-termism a significant barrier to progress? Economist Dambisa Moyo, Tim Ward, CEO of the Quoted Companies Alliance and entrepreneur Sophie Devonshire of The Caffeine Partnership are among Peter Morgan's guests.
Nov 12, 201931:01
The Changing World of Stock Markets

The Changing World of Stock Markets

To discuss why companies are turning away from stock exchanges - and why that matters - Peter Morgan is joined by guests including MP Liam Byrne; Nikhil Rathi of the London Stock Exchange; Hilary Salt of First Actuarial; Duncan Lamont of Schroders; Andrew McNally of Equitile; William Wright of New Financial and writer and professor Stefan Stern.
Jun 24, 201933:10
The Purpose of Finance

The Purpose of Finance

Finance has a troubled reputation. For many, the purpose of finance appears to be lining the pockets of financiers, at the expense of the rest of us. In this first episode, guests including Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator at the Financial Times; Huw van Steenis, senior adviser to the Governor, Bank of England; Polly Mackenzie, CEO of Demos and Tracy Blackwell, CEO of Pension Insurance Corporation, join presenter Peter Morgan to discuss the way forward.
Jun 20, 201932:29
The Purpose of Finance Podcast Trail

The Purpose of Finance Podcast Trail

Is the finance industry really capable of acting as a benevolent servant, spreading wealth across society? Subscribe now to join leading industry commentators as they explore, debate and define a vision of what a finance industry that better serves society could look like, and how we could all reap the rewards.
Jun 05, 201901:18