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SEACEN Podcast Episode 18: Conversation with Dr Hans Genberg

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SEACEN Podcast Episode 18: Conversation with Dr Hans Genberg
In this special episode in our "Step Up to Lead" series, SEACEN Faculty member from the Leadership and Governance Pillar, Ms.  Geraldine Joseph speaks with the former Executive Director of the Centre, Dr Hans Genberg, who is now with the Asia School of Business in Kuala Lumpur.
October 30, 2019
SEACEN Podcast Episode 17: In Conversation with Findlay MacPherson
In this episode, Aziz Durrani speaks to Mr. Findlay Macpherson, who was  most recently Head of Commercial Real Estate, Asia Pacific at HSBC and  is an ex-Senior Technical Specialist from the Bank of England. Findlay  has had a long career in banking, having lived and worked in South  Africa, Singapore, Thailand and Hong Kong. Findlay discusses the  Commercial Real Estate market across Asia, and risks and issues inherent  in this business, as CRE exposures often result in losses and  subsequent bank failures if undertaken incorrectly. Findlay also draws  on his banking and regulatory experience and talks about how Central  Banks and Regulators can effectively supervise institutions in the  current climate, as they implement Risk Based Supervision, Basel III,  IFRS 9 and deal with a range of other challenges.
September 12, 2019
Episode 16: Conversation with Philip Stedman
In this episode, Aziz Durrani is in conversation with Mr. Philip Stedman, CEO of Snoocode and Managing Director of Stedman Denny. Phil was previously a senior Technical Specialist at the Bank of England, where he worked alongside Aziz for 6 years, following the 2007/8 Financial Crisis. They discuss Phil’s background and expertise in emerging markets and talk about the key lessons he has learned from analysing corporate transactions and lending structures in developing economies, issues around identifying non-performing loans, how to challenge banks’ senior management and lessons and guidance Supervisors can draw from this in their day-today role.
August 8, 2019
Episode 15 with Malik Kotadia, Finnovation Labs Singapore
In the run-up to the SEACEN Centre’s Policy Summit on Cyber Risk, held on 13-14 June 2019, Aziz Durrani, Senior Financial Sector Specialist at the SEACEN Centre, caught up with Malik Kotadia, one of the panellists at the summit. They discuss some of the key developments, issues and risks in the FinTech, cryptocurrency and blockchain world, as well as how banks and regulators should be responding to them. 
July 3, 2019
Episode 14: Assessing Culture and Mitigating Misconduct Risk
 In this Podcast, Glenn Tasky, SEACEN’s Director of Financial Stability  and Supervision / Payment and Settlement Systems, interviews Stephen  Scott and Jeff Kupfer of Starling Trust Sciences, LLC. Starling is a  behavioural sciences company that utilizes technology to assist in the  evaluation of culture of organizations, including banks and other  financial institutions. These evaluations can reveal deficiencies in a  bank’s culture that may point to heightened misconduct risk. The  Starling executives discuss the most prominent and most recent banking  scandals, and emphasize that culture within a bank (or any firm) is  contagious, and both executives and employees take their cues from their  peers – not necessarily from laws, regulations, and best practices – in  deciding on a course of action. 
June 21, 2019
Episode 13 - Conversation with Bank Negara Malaysia Deputy Governor Jessica Chew - Cyber Risks
In this  2nd episode in our series on Cybersecurity, Dr. Ole Rummel and Mr. Mark McKenzie spoke with Puan Jessica Chew, Deputy Governor of Bank Negara Malaysia responsible for financial stability which covers the regulation and supervision of banks, insurance companies, payment systems and money services.  The main subject of this conversation is cyber risks and financial stability. It was recorded as part of our lead up to the SEACEN Centre's Annual Policy Summit on Central Bank Leadership in Combating Cyber Risk in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, 13 -14 June 2019.
May 14, 2019
Episode 12 - Cybersecurity 2019, Part 1
Dr Ole Rummel interviews Glenn Tasky, Director of the Financial Stability and Supervision/Payment and Settlement Systems pillar of the Centre about issues in Cybersecurity and Central Banking. This is part 1of 2 podcasts which lead up to the SEACEN Centre's Annual Policy Summit to be held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on 13 and 14 June 2019. 
April 8, 2019
Episode 11 - The Evolution of Central Banking
In this episode, Dr Hans Genberg, the Centre's Executive Director, speaks to Grant Spencer, Former Governor of the New Zealand Reserve Bank on the above and his experiences as a senior central banker.
February 19, 2019
Episode 3/2018 - Cryptocurrencies: Similarities and Differences
Ole and Mark talk about altcoins and compare them to bitcoin. They also talk about permissioned vs. permissionless, blockchain, and plug our upcoming Policy Summit in May 2018!
February 8, 2019
2018 Podcasts in Review
Dr. Rummel and Mark kick off the new year by recapping the topics we covered in the podcasts we did in 2018, including some clips from the various interviews we conducted. Also a sneak preview of next month's podcast! Errata: During the recording of this podcast, Mark McKenzie incorrectly made reference to a “recent IMF Paper” between 20.16 – 20.20 mins, 24.30-20.34 mins and 32.56-33.00 mins. Please note the correct reference is: Bank for International Settlements (BIS) Working Papers No 765 “ Beyond the doomsday economics of “proof-of-work” in cryptocurrencies” by Raphael Auer of Monetary and Economic Department published in January 2019. The paper is available at Sound credits: Initial 7 seconds of "We're back online"  by Kaptin_Random, from ( under the following Creative Commons license ( Intro music from Accelerated Ideas (
February 8, 2019
Podcast with Prof. William Black
Glenn Tasky speaks to Dr. William K Black, Associate Professor of Economics & Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, and author of "The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One". Dr. Black describes the epidemic of “control frauds,” massive frauds at banks that are orchestrated at the highest levels (directors and senior officers). Control frauds were rampant in the United States in the 1980s and have also existed in many other countries. He also discusses the potential for whistleblowing to alert regulators and other authorities about frauds occurring in banks before they get completely out of control.
October 17, 2018
Podcast with Pierre Siklos
Dr. Ole Rummel speaks to Pierre Siklos, SEACEN Visiting Scholar and Professor of Economics from Wilfrid Laurier University about Central Banks and Central Banking.
October 16, 2018
Technological Innovations and Strengthening Resilience of Payment Systems to Cybercrimes
Ole and Mark talk to Umar Faruqui from the CPMI and Chackan Lai of Visa on opportunities around new technologies and challenges for policymakers as well as how they can respond.
September 28, 2018
The SEACEN Capital Flows Monitor
Dr. Ole Rummel speaks with Dr. Rogelio Mercado, Jr, the chief author of the new publication, The SEACEN Capital Flows Monitor; which is available now, for free at
July 19, 2018
Podcast with Dr. Jean Pierre Landau
Dr. Ole Rummel and Mark McKenzie chat with Dr. Jean Pierre Landau, who has served as the Executive Director of the IMF and World Bank and now with the Economic Department of Sciences Po, Paris.
May 24, 2018
Podcast 4/2018 - American Default with Prof. Sebastian Edwards
Dr. Ole Rummel chats with Prof. Sebastian Edwards, author of "American Default".
April 26, 2018
ICOs and Cryptocurrencies: To Regulate or not to Regulate
Dr. Ole Rummel and Mark McKenzie talk about the need for regulating Cryptocurrencies and Initial Coin Offerings (ICOs).
February 15, 2018
Bitcoin price dynamics: causes, consequences and possible policy responses
Mark McKenzie and Dr Ole Rummel of the SEACEN Centre share their views and insights on Bitcoin, its price dynamics and possible policy responses by regulators.
January 22, 2018
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