This week we’re breaking down a subject that quite often played a critical role in our active addiction and alcoholism, and is if supreme importance to as many as 80% of us whom have a substance use disorder. And that is the issue of Mental Health. Those of us whom have a mental health diagnosis know all too well the perils of having to navigate the pitfalls of both alcoholism and/or addiction along side a mental illness such as depression, anxiety, bi-polar, or any number of mental health issues. We break down what mental health means, how it affects addiction and alcoholism, and practical actions you can take to improve your mental health and as a result your daily life in Recovery. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community – you all had a LOT to say on this one, and we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
This week we’re discussing boundaries in Recovery. Emotional & Physical boundaries often were all over the place while we were in active addiction and alcoholism. An untoward side-effect of ritualistic masking and numbing emotions with substances produced the side-effect of being disconnected from the boundary warning signals our emotions are sending us. Recovery is often a process of discovery. Getting to know how we feel given certain behaviors and situations informs what our boundaries are. Some boundaries are abundantly clear – such as overt physical or emotional abuse, and others are less so – requiring us to pay close attention to those newfound emotions and what they’re trying to tell us about ourselves. We’ll define what boundaries in recovery are, how to define them for yourself, and how to communicate them to the people in your life. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take one very interesting call – Listen Up!
Great article on setting Boundaries in Recovery by Hazelden:
This week we’ve got a compelling interview with Author Kristin Casey. Kristin is the Author of Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh as well as an intimacy coach and a person in long term recovery from addiction and alcoholism. Make no mistake; the hook of Kristin’s book is Joe Walsh. Joe is an enigmatic character who commands a “look at me, look at me” kind of attention and Kristin does a superb job of bringing Joe to life over the course of the story laid out in the pages of this remarkable memoir. More striking is the way in which Kristin’s very identity becomes inextricably connected to Joe and the rise and fall of their relationship – a dynamic all too many of us can intimately relate with. The remarkably dark and desperately lonely place King Alcohol took Kristin after her identity was stripped from her as a result of the demise of their relationship is nothing short of horrifying – a true miracle she’s here with us today. The only part of Kristin’s story more remarkable than her wild ride with Joe Walsh and the shocking events that followed is that of her extraordinary comeback powered by working the 12-Steps, a good sponsor, and yes, being of service. We’re suckers for a good ‘ol fashioned comeback here at The Way Out Podcast and Kristin’s story doesn’t disappoint so Listen Up.
This week we’re breaking down the oft overlooked and perhaps even more so dreaded 12-Step concept of Character Defects in recovery. In short order, you’ll get a practical definition of what Character Defects are and why we want to shed their dominance over our day to day thoughts, actions, and interactions with others. Understanding the what and how of it will lead is into what actions we can take in order to free ourselves from the stronghold character defects such as fear, anger, selfishness, control, among many others, have on us. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
Drop the Rock:
Drop the Rock...The Ripple Effect
We’re talking relapse and recovery. Relapse often can be a loaded term; often bandied about in discussion on recovery spurring heated debates on whether relapse is a part of recovery or if it is the antithesis of what we’re trying to achieve in recovery. Make no mistake, relapse can be and is a part of many of our journeys to long term and meaningful recovery and assinging shame or judgement on those who experience relapse has no place in recovery. That said, relapse is NOT a part of recovery itself – no relapse is fundamentally the total absence of recovery and is antithetical to everything we’re seeking in recovery. We take a closer look at the stages of relapse, what behaviors mark each stage, and what we can do to thwart the onset of relapse thinking and behavior. Whether you’re new in recovery or been around a few 24 hours, you’ll get a mega dose of relapse defying insight and practical tools you can apply to your recovery. Plus, we hear what the Sober & Serious community has to say on the topic and take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
I’m Charlie and this week I’m bringing you a special presentation of perhaps one of the if not the most influential talks in modern 12-Step recovery. We’re bringing you this in lieu of our regularly scheduled podcast on relapse in Recovery. We had a bit of a technical snafu causing us to push our weekly recording to Wednesday. Parenthetically that caused me to work through some character defects like perfectionism, pride, and ego which I’ll talk more about in the Recover Revealed segment later in the podcast. Nevertheless, stay tuned for Wednesday’s episode on Relapse in Recovery as I am SUPER excited about what we’ve got in store for you in that episode. I’ve isolated the audio of Fred Holmquist’s lecture on the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous and the 12-Step program it outlines for all of you to easily listen and take in as you would with any other podcast you might listen to. Fred distills the quintessential dilemma of the addict and alcoholic in such a way that cuts straight to the heart of the matter which then sets up his distillation of the solution perfectly, which is a program of action as outlined in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. Perhaps nobody has done a better job than that of Fred Holmquist relating our core problem and the solution contained in the 12-Steps since Joe & Charlie’s talks entitled “The Big Book Comes Alive”. My hope is that you will find this talk as enlightening and as useful as I did when I watched the videos while in treatment at Hazelden more than 4 years ago, but even if you only find them a fraction as useful that would still be a tremendous addition to your recovery.
This week we’re talking Complacency in Recovery. Complacency can be a formidable and subtle foe in maintaining meaningful and lasting recovery. It is without question quite human to experience complacency in any number of facets in our lives; and recovery is no exception. For those of us in Recovery however, complacency often can and indeed does precede relapse. We’re going to discuss what complacency in recovery means; how to detect it, where it stems from, and what practical action we can take to ensure we’re not falling victim to this all too common pitfall in Recovery. Plus we share comments on this topic from Sober & Serious AND take your calls! Listen Up!
This week we’re talking right to and all about the Newcomer to recovery. It’s often said the newcomer is the most important person in a 12-Step meeting, though it doesn’t necessarily feel that way when you are first entering a program of Recovery. We give you, the newcomer, straight forward, practical actions you can implement straight away that will yield remarkable results as well as helpful insights into why these actions make such a big difference in Recovery. For the person in long term recovery, we remind you of how vitally important it is to your own recovery to reach out and help the newcomer in any way you can. Plus we take calls from the Way Out Podcast listeners. Listen Up.
This week we’ve got a fantastic discussion on tap for you with Mr. Mike Govoni. Mike has been in long term recovery from addiction and alcoholism to the tune of 14 years, works on the front line in emergency rooms on the opioid & addiction crisis, and is the founder of Breath by Breath Wellness – where mindfulness and breath are cornerstones of his approach to total wellness coaching. Mike has one amazing Recovery story to share, along with incredibly insightful lessons he’s learned on his journey to wellness. He speaks of ACE’s – or adverse childhood experiences, a topic we’ll dive into in greater depth in our Recovery Revealed segment, as well as what he learned from each of the TWO bottoms he’s hit in his Journey to recovery; one of these bottoms while in sobriety. You won’t want to miss a minute of this gem of an interview so Listen UP.
Mike can be reached here:
Instagram : mikegovoni
Facebook: mike govoni
Adverse Childhood Experience Test (you'll need to find it in the article):
This week we’re discussing the importance of and how to inject perseverance into recovery. Without question any meaningful and lasting recovery must have some measure of perseverance as a foundational and defining characteristic. Perseverance is often the key ingredient that separates those who succeed in any endeavor, and Recovery is no exception. A cursory Google search on the word perseverance will yield countless quotes from some of history’s most influential people, waxing poetic on the virtues of hard work, determination, and a never say die attitude. You’ll get the low down on perseverance in Recovery and how to apply it to your own recovery as well as why the goal might actually be to have to persevere LESS. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Audience. One note before we kick the show off – I humbly ask that you persevere through a less than ideal audio experience as the studio equipment was adjusted by a 17 year old boy whom shall remain nameless while he was recording piano samples with Dad’s podcast studio gear, thus the gain on the channel my vocals are recorded on was up WAY too high. I did my level best to clean up a very HOT signal, so without further ado – Listen Up.
These instructions are for the below prayer (Big Book, Freedom from Bondage, p. 552):
‘If you have a resentment you want to be free of, if you will pray for the person or the thing that you resent, you will be free. If you will ask in prayer for everything you want for yourself to be given to them, you will be free…Even when you don’t really want it for them, and your prayers are only words and you don’t mean it, go ahead and do it anyway. Do it every day for two weeks and you will find you have come to mean it and to want it for them, and you will realize that where you used to feel bitterness and resentment and hatred, you now feel compassionate understanding and love.’
This week we’re taking on the number one offender in preventing recovery from taking root and often a major contributor to relapse – Resentments. We shed light on what resentments actually are, how to detect if you have them, why it’s so important to move past them, and how to actually live a life that is free of the devastating effects of resentment. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners – Listen Up.
This week I’ve got a down right remarkable story to share with you; a story not often heard on The Way Out Podcast airwaves. Melinda’s story is marked by a tumultuous and chaotic childhood providing the fertile soil for dysfunction and addiction to take root as she began to traverse the uncharted territory of adulthood. The sentinel moment that marked the beginning of Melinda’s Recovery is ultra-relatable and provides the compelling catalyst for her finding Recovery in various programs, not the least of which included the 12-Steps in Adult Children of Alcoholics. Melinda’s perspective on Recovery is on point; astute, and nuanced, and quite refreshing. To that end, and without further ado, I give you Melinda in unadulterated and totally uninterrupted fashion – Listen Up.
We’ve got a phenomenal interview for you with Stephen Daniels, who is in long term recovery from both gambling and porn addiction. Stephen shares his 15 plus year battle with these addictions in an honest and authentic way, looking to smash the stigma and shame that’s so often attached to addiction, especially society’s awkward relationship to porn and the deafening silence and lack of conversation surrounding porn addiction. Stephen’s story affirms that despite how our primary addictions manifest, whether it be drugs, alcohol, gambling, or porn – the root cause and the solution is universal. Stephen’s mission to break the silence and smash the stigma of porn and gambling addiction starts right now. Listen Up.
Stephen D. Daniels
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The Problem & Solution by Fred Holmquist Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtTfUBTes8 (Part 1 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crP10-oqzHo (Part 2 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ot0QCHzXk (Part 3 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUsSarmLKtY (Part 4 of 5)
https://youtu.be/rEO6fbfm1sg (Part 5 of 5)
Staying Sober: A Guide for Relapse Prevention:
We’re addressing a common struggle many of us have faced on our recovery journeys – the process of facing and overcoming barriers to recovery. We’ve talked at length on various important and impactful elements of recovery and this week we’re helping demystify common barriers we often face before lasting and meaningful recovery can be achieved. Learning what these barriers are, and how to overcome them is paramount if we want to achieve rewarding & enduring recovery. All this, plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners – Listen Up!
We’ve got an outstanding final episode of 2018 for you to enjoy. Jared is coming back into Recovery after a near fatal overdose and shares very candidly and openly about his struggle with alcoholism and heroin addiction. Jared’s journey dovetails splendidly with our ensuing discussion on Community in Recovery. It’s often said in all walks of life, regardless of the situation, that “it takes a village” and that is no truer than in Recovery. Community in so many ways provides the antidote to addiction and alcoholism. We give you the big wins that come from connecting with your recovery community & even more helpful, we give you practical ways you can make that life giving community connection. Plus, we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners. Listen Up.
Here's the link to the video we talked about on the show!
This week we’ll be exploring an often treacherous dynamic in recovery – relationships. Many of us have endured unhealthy and even toxic relationships during our active addiction and alcoholism. Navigating relationships, especially in early recovery; whether you’re currently in a committed relationship or contemplating entering a relationship, can be difficult and complex at best and down right risky and dangerous at worst. A toxic relationship in recovery can threaten your sobriety and even the very safety of yourself, your children, and your family. We discuss in very practical and useful terms how to navigate these turbulent waters and share how our programs of Recovery helped us be better friends, sponsors, sponsees, and mates as well as how our pickers done got fixed. Listen Up.
Sometimes in Recovery we have to adapt & overcome unforeseen obstacles that stand in our way; or as the Serenity Prayer elegantly states – Change the things we can. Our recording session for this week’s podcast was stopped before it started when we had a key piece of equipment fail – preventing us from being able to record any audio. For your audio tech nerds out there, it was my trusty and yes kind of dusty Alesis iO2 audio interface that went belly up. With any hopes of a studio session dashed I was faced with two choices; either skip this week’s podcast all together or try to put something out myself. Just as I was attempting to lie down for a sleep last night an idea popped into my head – what if I could get folks to call in to the show and share whatever was on their heart or mind regarding recovery? An all caller based show! Ladies and germs, that’s exactly what we have for your this week. We’re often faced with a choice to do something or nothing; and this week is the result of a decision to give you all something special, straight from our listeners. Thank you so much AnneMarie, Big Jim, Buddy, Chris, and Michelle – each and every one of you most certainly made this possible. Listen Up.
This week we’re covering a seriously under-rated topic in Recovery – Purpose. We discuss in simple & practical terms what purpose actually is and how we can achieve purpose in our own lives. Spoiler alert, it doesn
Gratitude, can indeed be something we can cultivate in our lives with intention and purpose. Gratitude is a powerful emotion we’ve all hopefully experienced on some level through various points in our lives, but we of
We discuss perhaps one of the most important & profoundly impactful topics in Recovery – acceptance as well as it’s yang to the yin – Denial. Without question a hallmark of active addiction and alcoholism is behav
Forgiveness in the context of Addiction and Alcoholism recovery is an essential and transformative process which in classic paradoxical fashion actually releases the Forgiver - providing the crucial freedom from the bon
Emotional sobriety strikes at the very core of what it means to be an addict and alcoholic. We bring you an engaging and enlightening discussion on what Bill W of Alcoholics Anonymous dubbed the next frontier of AA –
We’re breaking down perhaps one of the most, if not the most important elements in sustaining meaningful recovery. The Way Out Podcast is on right now. Along with my cohosts Jordan and Jason, I’m Charlie and this w
This week we’ve got a special interview with a fellow recovery Podcaster John from Sober Speak. I never cease to be amazed at the power and spiritual truth that comes through each & every recovery journey & John is no
We answer crazy important questions like what in the actual EF is this Gift of Desperation? . I’m Charlie and this week Jason, Alex and I discuss a phenomenon in recovery often referred to as the Gift of Desperation.
Chris’s journey to recovery from over-eating and alcoholism was remarkable and will with out any doubt ring true with any one of you whom are struggling with or in recovery from alcoholism and/or addiction. Chris’s
We discuss the spiritual axiom of surrendering to win. I’m Charlie, and this week my co-host Jason and I are bringing you an incredibly useful and enlightening discussion on Surrender. More specifically we discuss th
The difference between sobriety and serenity. We’ll learn what serenity means, why it’s important in Sobriety, and what we can do to achieve this seemingly elusive and abstract goal of recovery. We break down the s
Super Sobriety Topic Terminal Uniqueness. Along with Jason and Alex, I’m Charlie and we’ll be your hosts for this week’s discussion on the Super Sobriety Topic Terminal Uniqueness. We’ll give you an indispensabl
Along with Jason and Alex, I’m Charlie and we’ll be your hosts as we discuss the Recovery Power Topic, Spirituality in Recovery. So much of 12-Step recovery and faith based recovery programs involve the concept and
The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and this week, along side my co-hosts Jason and Alex we bring you an enlightening conversation on one of the single greatest four letter words in Recovery: hope. No d
I’m Charlie and today I’m joined by my two new co-hosts Jason and Alex as we have an insightful and practical discussion on fear and recovery. We answer the question burning in every recovering person’s mind – e
This week I’m over the moon to have had the opportunity to have an engaging discussion with Rachel Grant. Rachel is an expert and survivor -check that – a beyond survivor of sexual abuse and has a powerful message o
The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host for Episode 96 with Annie. Annie talks candidly and openly about the three addictions she is in recovery from, over-eating, nicotine, and alco
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for what turned out to be an outstanding interview with this week’s guest, Philip Andrew. Philip’s story is riddled with hard knock lessons and ripe with a struggle and triumph
I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week as I bring you a powerful interview with Keith Campbell – a person in long term recovery and the founder of the world’s fastest growing online recovering community –
This week I’m absolutely ecstatic about bringing you the Podcasting duo Meagan and Bob from The Addictionary Podcast. Meagan and Bob are father & daughter and are both persons living in long-term recovery from addicti
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week for an amazing interview with Amy LaBossiere. Amy is an Artist, Wife, Author and a woman in long term Recovery. Amy and her husband own Still Waters Retreat in Connectic
I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week for the second part of our two-part series with my dear friend Raven. Raven shares how her addiction and alcoholism spiral into what turn out to be untenable extents, wit
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week as I bring you part one with my dear friend Raven, who shares her story of addiction, alcoholism and recovery in only the way she can. Raven’s matter of fact, tell it li
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week as we bring you part 2 of my discussion with John C Mabry. We pick up right where we left off last week as John describes how he rose to success in film and TV as his dise
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode, which is packed with spiritual truth from beginning to end. John Mabry’s journey to living in recovery and living in his self-described “truth” is a
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for Part Two of my conversation with Amy Dresner, Author of the compelling addiction memior “My Fair Junkie”. Amy and I pick up right where we left off last week as we dive her
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for part one of a two part series with former stand-up comedian and current author and contributor to The Fix – Amy Dresner. Amy has an absolute whale of a tale to share with us,
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for part two of my interview with Eric, a loyal listener of The Way Out Podcast whom bravely shares his story with us. In part two, Eric shares how his alcoholism comes to a breakin
The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and I’m thrilled to bring part one of Eric’s story, a story you’ll only find here, on The Way Out Podcast. Eric has an amazing story to share, and I found mysel
I’m Charlie and I’m thrilled as always to be your host for this week’s episode and the conclusion of my amazing discussion with legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete. Freddy’s heart condition resulting from his
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for the first episode of a two part series with legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete. Freddy’s first years were marked by abandonment and abuse as he grew up in East L.A. in the
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode where we bring you part two of my amazing chat with Leeanne. Leeann’s story is so instructive in a great many ways; as she shares he first 13 years of re
Leeanne has quite an amazing story & recovery journey. Growing up as an American in Saudi Arabia up until High School; attending boarding school in France and ultimately moving back stateside to attend Catholic School d
We pick up right where we left off last week; as Brandon shares his implausible journey to recovery, and the miracles that have transpired in his life since achieving substantial and meaningful recovery. Listen Up.
The Way Out Podcast is on, right now. I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for a truly special episode with none other than Brandon Novak. Brandon’s early life was stamped indelibly through early family turmoil juxt
I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for the second half of our two-part series we started last week. We pick up right where we left off; with our guest smack dab in the middle of a bit of a crises. His foster parent
I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode as we partake in the first of a two part series with a very special guest; one I’m proud to call a friend and mentor in my own recovery. You’ll notice
I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week for part two of my discussion with Christopher Lee Falk. Christopher’s life is about to take a big U-Turn after his chance encounter with the “seen it all before in t
. I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s incredible episode, where we’ll hear part one of a two part series with Christopher Lee Falck. Christopher’s life was nearly over before it really even bega
This week I bring you my conversation with Laura L.; a dear friend of mine whom I met upon entering into recovery just over three years ago. Laura’s story provides incredibly instructive context into the discussion on
On deck for you this week is part two of my interview with Amber Murphy, author of the brand new book Can’t Keep A Sober Girl Down. Amber shares how her self-described divine intervention compelled her to do something
I first met the guest of this week’s and next week’s episodes while on location with Omar Pinto of the Shair Podcast and was immediately struck by her authenticity, wisdom, and warmth as it emanated from her seemingl
This week we bring you the first ever Game Show in the history of The Way Out Podcast. A continuation of our live interview with Omar Pinto – we play “Blasts from Podcasts Past”, which is an adapted form of classi
This week; with a heart over filleth with gratitude and joy I bring you a show featuring the incomparable Omar Pinto from the Shair Podcast. Omar, or “O” as many affectionately refer to him shares his story of addic
This week; we diverge from the usual guest interview and have on tap for you a special episode on The difference between the program of the 12-Steps and the fellowship of the 12 Step organizations; including a review of
This week, I bring you my discussion with Seth H., who has three continuous years of recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism. Seth has a powerful story; and even more powerful message – he’s truly convinced ther
. This week we bring you 4 outstanding interviews; all from artists who are in long term recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. In order of appearance you’ll hear from Joe Nester, Marcus Newman, REM One, and of co
This week we recorded an amazing interview with musician and recording artist Jam Alker. Jam celebrates 3 years of continuous sobriety today; and our discussion covers the recovery waterfront in only the way a man like
This week we’ve got part two of my interview with Megan Peterson. Megan’s fierce dedication to helping those whom suffer from drug and alcohol addiction is impossible to ignore; and “no excuses” attitude plays a
Megan has spent her entire life working in the field of addiction; and has tremendous insight into what it takes for lasting recovery to take hold in a person’s life. Megan is a one of a kind, and is truly passionate
. This week we bring you part one of my interview with Austin Cooper of Sober Evolution. Austin is in his fourth year of continuous recovery and is the founder of the social media group Sober Evolution. Austin shares
This week I bring you the conclusion of my interview with Nikki Dubose, super model turned recovery and mental illness warrior. Nikki shares what it took for her to surrender to her would be terminal battle with addicti
This week I’m thrilled to bring you part one of my interview with Nikki Dubose; a former Super Model turned author, ambassador, and mental health & Addiction and Alcoholism recovery advocate. Nikki’s memoir “Washe
This week we’ve got the good fortune of hearing part one of my interview with Gillian P who’s six years of continuous sobriety has given her a new life; one that allows her to share her experience, strength, and hope
This week I have the wonderful opportunity to share my interview with Aaron; who has worked on the front lines of the Heroin Addiction epidemic as a counselor in a treatment center for teens. Aaron just celebrated 8 yea
This week I bring you a conversation with Roger F on Vulnerability and emotional risk in recovery. The interview was recorded while traveling from Stillwater, MN to Minneapolis MN so you’ll hear the sounds of the road
Tim Ryan; founder of the non profit recovery advocacy organization; A Man in Recovery and soon to be starring in A&E’s 1 hour special ‘Dope Man’ debuting July 31st which is a look at the day in the life of Tim Rya
Picking up right where we left off last week – in the height of Jackie’s active alcoholism. Jackie shares what it was like at the end of her drinking, and what it took for her to recover from a seemingly hopeless st
In Part One Jackie shares on what it was like growing up on a dairy farm in small town America, the eldest sibling of 3, the classic go-getter and self-proclaimed goody two-shoes who quote didn’t like to drink turned d
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Welcome. Thank you for joining us on the second installment of The Way Out. Sharing stories from people just like you who have recovered from alcoholism and other addictions. The Way Out does not speak on behalf of, n