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The Way Out | A Sobriety & Recovery Podcast

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There is no Box with Dino Miliotis | The Way Out Podcast Episode 259
In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur, author, and gifted storyteller, Dino Miliotis. A self-made millionaire twice over, Dino shares his journey to and through recovery this point with a frankness and candor that is as disarming as it is enlightening. Dino takes us on the rollercoaster ride of his entrepreneurial successes and the material rewards that came along with it along with the pernicious, progressive and ultimately all-consuming nature of his alcohol and drug abuse which led to nothing short of a physical, emotional and mental crisis that caused Dino to make a fateful and vital decision – to walk away from his billion dollar enterprise and ask for help with all of the humility and willingness of a truly desperate man and it paid off in a truly spectacular way. We discuss Dino’s recovery, success, entrepreneurialism, the incredibly important idea of bad habit displacement, where we replace negative behaviors with positive and the inspiration for his new book There is no Box so listen up. Reach out to Dino: https://dinomiliotis.com/contact/ FB - https://www.facebook.com/dinomiliotis@dinomiliotis IG - https://www.instagram.com/dinomiliotis/@dinomiliotis Twitter - https://twitter.com/thedinomiliotis@thedinomiliotis Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation -There is No Box by Dino Miliotis: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C155M87 Best Recovery Advice: One Day at a Time Be of Service Song that Symbolizes Recovery for Dino – I’m Still Standing by Elton John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:27:30
September 20, 2021
Shane Ramer is That Sober Guy | The Way Out Podcast Episode 258
In this edition of The Way Out we have recovery podcaster, and person in long term recovery Shane Ramer of That Sober Guy Podcast. I recently had the honor and privilege to share my story on Shane’s podcast and I couldn’t be more grateful to have had the opportunity to welcome Shane to The Way Out Podcast family to share his remarkable story and the spiritual and recovery truth embodied in it, with us. I’m more convinced than ever that people we don’t yet know aren’t strangers but friends we haven’t met yet, especially in the Recovery community. Indeed, Shane and I share much in common in and out of the realm of Recovery, so much so we’re very much like brothers from another mother! Shane and I do our level best to Recover Out Loud as we talk music, coming of age in the 90’s, our mutual love of walking with our Recovery dogs, the journey to recovery and the serendipity of recording this installment of The Way Out Podcast on the precise date of Shane’s 8 year sobriety anniversary so Listen Up. That Sober Guy Podcast: https://www.thatsoberguy.com/podcast Contact Shane: IG - @ThatSoberGuyPodcast https://www.thatsoberguy.com/contactus Best Recovery Advice: Move you’re a$$ and your mind will follow Look at your feet (in difficult times and times of stress – a grounding technique) Recovery literature (Quit Lit) recommendation: The Bible Song that symbolizes Recovery for Shane: Keepers of the Faith by Terror: https://youtu.be/UonmopFossY Chemical Diet by Pharmacist Chris and Shane Ramer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e830PCappnk Charlie LeVoir on That Sober Guy Podcast: https://thatsoberguy.libsyn.com/tsg-ep374-charlie-levoir-the-way-out-podcast (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:13:47
September 13, 2021
Recovery Changes Everything with Wesley Verry | The Way Out Podcast Episode 257
This week the world’s best recovery podcast co-host Jason has a powerful interview with person in long term recovery, Wesley Verry. Wes talks about the utter unmanageability and insanity of his addictions, an insanity that also manifested in his relationships, which led him to be finally broken enough to stop talking and start listening to the solutions he was hearing in the rooms of 12-Step recovery. His detailed accounts of his journey are emotionally charged and indeed extremely relatable. Ultimately, Wes’s story is a true testament to the power of 12 step recovery to break the cycle of alcohol or drug addiction in anyone's life so listen up. Contact Wes @ wesleyadam1311@gmail.com Book recommendations: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/read-the-big-book-and-twelve-steps-and-twelve-traditions Daily Reflections https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/daily-reflection Song that symbolizes recovery to Wes- Hero by Skillet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9x2CHQClTU (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
02:22:15
September 6, 2021
Role for Recovery with Myles Sandoval | The Way Out Podcast Episode 256
In this rendition of The Way Out, we have a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, recovery coach, and Phoenix facilitator, Myles Sandoval. Author Johann Hari is credited with coining the phrase “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety. It’s connection.” This idea embodies the impetus behind The Phoenix, which is a non-profit organization with the sole purpose to build a sober active community that fuels resilience and harnesses the transformational power of connection so that together participants rise, recover, and live. Often one of the greatest fears folks have prior to, or upon entering recovery is that living sober will be devoid of joy and we won’t have fun in sobriety. Myles proves this unequivocally false as a participant in The Phoenix community, where she creates meaningful connections with others in recovery through shared interests and activities like Yoga, CrossFit, Meditation, Mindfulness and now as the facilitator of the Phoenix group Role for Recovery where Myles integrates two amazing things; Recovery and Dungeons and Dragons or D&D if you will, in an online group. Myles and I discuss the importance and power of connection and having fun in recovery, meditation, and of course D&D so listen up. Contact Myles Sandoval: Call/text: 512-294-6479 Email: myles.a.sandoval@gmail.com The Phoenix Livestreaming Groups: https://thephoenix.org/find-a-class/live-streaming/ Role for Recovery Tuesdays @ 6PM CT Role for Recovery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1495073220872625 Best Recovery Advice: Take it One Day at a Time Recovery Literature Recommendation (Quit Lit): No Death No Fear by Thich Nhat Hanh: https://budsas.net/sach/en176.pdf Song that symbolizes Recovery: Tool Lateralus https://youtu.be/Y7JG63IuaWs (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:13:09
August 30, 2021
The Power of Accountability with Eric Schulz | The Way Out Podcast Episode 255
In this rendition of The Way Out our recovery co-host with the most Jason has a fantastic interview with Eric Schulz, and in this episode, Jason and Eric had quite the happy accident! After Jason and Eric rescheduled once, they got to celebrate Eric’s one year milestone on his actual clean date! If that isn’t a Higher Power Moment, I don’t know what is. Eric shares his journey with us and all the while Jason and Eric cover so many profoundly helpful topics and share a lot of practical tools that can help anyone find a way out of despair and hopelessness, so listen up. Contact Eric on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/eric.schulz.37669 Song that symbolizes Eric's recovery- Luven Me by Nelly https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nelly+luven+me+lyrics Book recommendation- 24 hours a day (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
02:03:11
August 22, 2021
Flourishing After Addiction with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher | The Way Out Podcast Episode 254
In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Clinical Psychiatrist, Addiction Medicine Specialist and Bio Ethicist Dr. Carl Erik Fisher. As a person in long term recovery himself along with his clinical and scholarly work, Carl brings a unique perspective to the treatment of addiction, and the positive change that occurs in recovery. Easily one of the most enlightening and instructive ideas forwarded by Dr. Fisher is the concept that recovery can be thought of and defined as any positive change in one’s life, which affords us the freedom to take the transformational power of the tools contained within our chosen recovery pathway and apply them broadly across any or all areas of our lives to affect constructive improvement. Recovery, in its purest form is a holistic wellness journey and we don’t have to limit it to one unhealthy habit, or just one addiction. Applying our recovery process that worked for a drug or alcohol addiction can work for addictive behaviors and even for behaviors and negative or counterproductive habits that haven’t reached the threshold of addiction. Recovery is a process, and it doesn’t happen all at once nor is it often linear. When we continue to remove the harmful and addictive behaviors, we can begin and indeed continue the process of healing our minds, bodies, and spirits through our preferred recovery pathway. Carl and I explore an array of fascinating areas in and around addiction and recovery including stigma, mindfulness in recovery, and how Buddhist practices can be a primary recovery pathway or incorporated into your existing recovery practice, and a whole lot more so listen up. Contact Dr. Carl Erik Fisher: https://www.carlerikfisher.com/ Book Recommendation (Quit Lit): The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh: https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Thich%20Nhat%20Hanh%20-%20The%20Miracle%20of%20Mindfulness.pdf Anything by Buddhism and Recovery Author and Speaker Kevin Griffin: https://www.kevingriffin.net/ The Best Piece of Advice Received: Surrender, let go, and ask for help New book coming in January 2022: The Urge: Our History of Addiction New podcast coming soon: Flourishing After Addiction Song that symbolizes Recovery: Doctor Atomic: Batter My Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDTFyinS3zA (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:24:06
August 15, 2021
Timothy Clancy's Road to Sobriety & Personal Success | The Way Out Podcast Episode 253
In this rendition of The Way Out our steadfast recovery Co-Host Jason’s got a magnificent interview with person in long term recovery and Author, Timothy Clancy who shares with us his road to Sobriety. From rock bottom to ten years of continuous sobriety and counting, Timothy’s journey to and through recovery to this point has been difficult at times, yet exceedingly rewarding at the same time. As you’ll come to learn, Timothy lives with Epilepsy, which has meant he’s spent time in a coma and undergone two brain surgeries. Without question Timothy walks his talk, which in addition to writing his book The Road to Sobriety, is personified by his decision to leave a lucrative job in the financial industry at Goldman Sachs to become an Independent Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, or CBT counselor helping people who struggle with self-destructive behavior, substance abuse, eating disorders and more. Timothy talks about the sacrifices he has made in order to fulfill his purpose, helping others and giving back! For Timothy, true happiness could only be found by giving up financial success, thus creating his own version of personal success! No doubt about it, Timothy has a survivor's story and a servant's heart so listen up. Book recommendation: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Dummies https://mindhearteu.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-for-dummies-copy.pdf Song that symbolizes recovery: Better than Drugs by Skillet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGyDL7sTHA Contact Timothy at kayla72911@gmail.com Timothy's book -The Road to Sobriety: lifting yourself up when there doesn't seem like much to hold onto Get it for free on Kindle Unlimited or purchase here at this link https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08N1KGNTK/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1627864045&sr=8-3 (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:42:18
August 9, 2021
A Meaningful Life by Design with Kylie Butler | The Way Out Podcast Episode 252
In this edition of The Way Out Recovery Coach, Entrepreneur, and person in long term recovery Kylie Butler comes to us from Bali to share her journey to and through recovery to this point with a sagacity and intuitiveness that is at once unmistakably authentic and enlightening. Her knock-down drag-out bout with alcoholism is rife with the hallmarks of a classic battle with addiction, not the least of which was trauma and a heavy dose of denial, which as most of us know, doesn’t FEEL like denial when we’re in it. Her recovery journey is rooted in the 12-Steps infused with a distinctly Buddhist set of principles and practices which very much focuses on living in a way that centers and prioritizes acceptance and letting go of that which causes us to struggle. For Kylie, recovery was first a process of addition by subtraction. Eliminate the alcohol, and then begin practices that allow her to continue to let go of the thoughts, attitudes, and behaviors that cause suffering while at the same time increasing serenity and over all well being in mind, body, and spirit. Kylie and I dig into her whale of a recovery story, talk some serious spiritual and recovery truth and reveal how her recovery practices evolved into an entire practice of recovery and life coaching where she now helps others create a meaningful life by design so listen up. Contact Kylie & Learn More About A Meaningful Life By Design: https://ameaningfullifebydesign.com/ Buddhist 8 Step Recovery: https://brnadmin.buddhistrecovery.org/assets/uploads/files/8_Step_Recovery-Preface.pdf Song that reminds Kylie of Recovery: Let it Go (From the Movie Frozen): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVVTZgwYwVo Favorite Recovery Literature (Quit Lit): https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Taming-the-Tiger/Akong-Tulku-Rinpoche/9780892815692 Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Don’t ask yourself what’s wrong with you, but instead ask yourself what happened to you (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:01:49
August 2, 2021
From Tragedy to Triumph with Aaron Laine | The Way Out Podcast Episode 251
This week our intrepid co-host Jason has an incredibly entertaining and indeed inspiring interview with Cincinnati radio DJ, host and creator of the wildly popular Tragedy to Triumph podcast, and person in long term recovery, Aaron Laine. Aaron shares openly about his struggle with alcoholism and addiction, subsequent recovery, and what life is like now flourishing in recovery as he uses his God given gifts to help spread the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is possible. To that end, to say that Aaron is active in the Recovery community would be a drastic understatement, from Radio to TV to event hosting – Aaron’s definitely making a difference for those who still suffer with addiction and alcoholism. Aaron’s been an inspiration Jason and to countless others, and you can now officially count me in the official/unofficial Aaron Laine Fan Club, and dare I predict you too may wind up a fan of Aaron’s after listening to what amounts to be an incredible discussion between to recovery powerhouses. Jason has tons of laughs as they talk about ego, family, podcasting, God's purpose, service, and a whole lot more so listen up. Book Recommendation: Drop The Rock by Bill P. Todd W. and Sarah S. Song that symbolizes recovery to Aaron: Priceless by for KING & COUNTRY Best piece of advice: "Keep doing what you're doing" Contact Aaron at FB: @fromtragedy Aaron.laine@icloud.com www.fromtragedy.com (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:36:24
July 26, 2021
Jason A Comes Back with a Transplant & Recovery Story | The Way Out Podcast Episode 250
In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a Way Out Podcast first with Jason A, who appeared on our very first episode way back in March of 2016 and is the only person we’ve interviewed more than once, and as you’ll learn for very good reason. Much has happened in the span of that 5 plus years and 250 episodes later in the evolution of this podcast as you’ll discover if you dare to venture back to our opening episode featuring Jason and compare it to our most recent offerings. His story is truly inspiring and also a work in progress, as is this podcast. Much has been learned since and indeed the same is true in Jason’s journey to and through recovery to this point. Jason shares candidly about his struggles with relapse which ultimately led to liver failure, and quite literally ending up accepting his condition was terminal and death was extremely near. In what would amount to be a miracle in getting approved for a transplant, Jason shares his transplant journey and what life is like today post-transplant thriving in recovery. Jason’s journey is proof positive that recovery is not linear nor is it perfect, indeed we stumble, we fall down, and if we keep working toward it we can indeed regain our footing and achieve meaningful and enduring recovery so listen up. Favorite recovery literature (Quit Lit): Daily Reflections Best piece of recovery advice: Take it easy, self-care, and meditation Song that symbolizes recovery: I never promised you a rose garden by Lynn Anderson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHsWBKKNbI (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:14:05
July 19, 2021
Alex McRobs is The Sober Yoga Girl | The Way Out Podcast Episode 249
In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly inspiring and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, and the one and only Sober Yoga Girl, Alex McRobert AKA Alex McRobs for those of you who are social media inclined. Alex, a self-proclaimed and quintessential party girl since high school, shares her journey to and through sobriety to this point, which included addressing her mental health in addition to her true reckoning with her relationship alcohol, which over time turned from relatively harmless and consequence free partying to a progressive and indeed destructive force in her life. The instrumental move for Alex was joining one year no beer, a community of people who were actively working on eliminating alcohol from their lives.  This is where the magic happened, where Alex began to hear the recovery and sobriety journeys of those who have gone down the path before her and of those who were starting that journey alongside her. What started out as a 28-day sobriety goal, turned into 90 days, which has now spanned more than two years and counting. Finding her true purpose, which is operating her Mindful Life Practice and Sober Curious Yoga School, sprang from her decision to share her recovery journey publicly, which prompted folks to reach out to Alex to help them on their own quest to sobriety and recovery, thus integrating Yoga and Recovery coaching into a blended model that brings her students on a path to recovery and wellness. Without question, Alex’s decision to get sober and then share her journey to sobriety openly has not only transformed her own life, but the lives of a growing number of people she’s been able to reach as a result, so listen up as Alex McRobs Recovers Out Loud with us, right now. The Mindful Life Practice Community: www.themindfullifepractice.com Sober Curious Yoga School: https://www.themindfullifepractice.com/sober-curious-yoga-school Alex’s regular recovery routine: Yoga, Meditation, Journaling & Writing, Connecting to the Sober and Yoga Communities Favorite Recovery Literature AKA Quit Lit: Meditations from the Mat by Rolf Gates and Katrina Kenison: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/58710/meditations-from-the-mat-by-rolf-gates-and-katrina-kenison/ Daily Reflections on Yoga, Recovery and Getting Well by Rolf Gates: https://www.hayhouse.com/daily-reflections-on-yoga-addiction-and-getting-well-paperback The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherin Gray: https://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Joy-Being-Sober-alcohol-free/dp/1912023385 What is the best piece of advice you received in recovery? Connecting to the wisdom, experience, strength, and hope of other people’s recovery journeys What song symbolizes your recovery? Sober by Kelly Clarkson: https://youtu.be/bTQ1IWQv6II (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:12:37
July 12, 2021
Activate Your Powers with Katie Schwartz - The Way Out Podcast Episode 248
In this edition of The Way Out our magnificent recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Katie Schwartz. Katie shares with us about her unresolved trauma and how it has hindered her attempts at recovery. No doubt many of us can identify with the pain and trauma caused as a result of the many forms that parental abandonment can take. The hit on our self-worth, and the often-subconscious obsession for validation from people can indeed set us on a crash course and headlong into addiction, alcoholism, and chaos. After multiple relapses Katie has never given up the fight for meaningful and enduring recovery, and when she was truly ready for help, help came to her in a big way. Doing whatever it took to recover for Katie meant treatment, working the 12-Steps and connecting to a Higher Power, and as a result Katie recently decided to start sharing her story and realized it has indeed activated her powers! So Listen Up as Katie Recovers Out Loud. Contact Katie at katie80schwartz@gmail.com or on the group Sober and Serious on Facebook Best Advice: Remain teachable Book Recommendation: The Bible APP (Katie don't read) Song that symbolizes recovery: Movin' on up by Primal Scream (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:40:22
July 5, 2021
Recovery, Freedom and One Love with Crystal Hill Hover | The Way Out Podcast Episode 247
In this rendition of The way Out our beloved co-host Jason’s got a whopper of an interview with person in long term recovery Crystal Hill Hover, who is also a mother, wife, owner of 5 sober homes and a recovery wellness center and Gym and if that wasn’t enough, she just earned her Master’s Degree to boot. Crystal's story is extremely inspiring to say the least. She battled against a myriad of personal demons to achieve enduring sobriety and personal freedom - including addiction, an eating disorder, criminal thinking as well as an array of mental health issues. For Crystal it wasn’t until she landed in prison and subsequent boot camp and follow-on treatment that she was truly able to face her problems head on and ultimately find God, that true recovery began to take hold. Today she has an MBA and is doing amazing things to help and support the recovery community! You're definitely going to want to learn more, so listen up. Best piece of advice: See disruptions as opportunities Book Recommendations: Strengths Based Leadership by Tom Rath and Barry Conchie Life Without Ed by Jenny Schaefer E.A.R.L.: The Autobiography of DMX Songs that symbolize recovery to Crystal: Unfinishedby Mandisa Grace Got Youby Mercy Me One Love Housing www.onelovehousing.com Twin Cities Recovery Gym and Wellness Center Https://www.faceboook.com/TwinCitiesRecoveryGym/ Bus Pick up for church: 4:45-5 pm @ Will Work for Recovery to Saturday 6PM Service @ Free Grace United Elk River. Then Free meal @ restaurant and transportation back to WWFR Contact Crystal @ crystal.onelovehousing@gmail.com (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/
01:52:21
June 28, 2021
Alex Bales Turns Pain into Purpose | The Way Out Podcast Episode 246
In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a superbly relatable and edifying interview with person in long term recovery and personal trainer turned transformational life coach who specializes in helping people overcome addiction and emotional trauma – Alex Bales. His mission? To help people effortlessly evolve to create a life they love again full of health and joy. Alex’s journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by painful experiences combined with a feeling of being different than everyone else in his early life, which set the stage for addiction and alcoholism to make their debut in early adulthood, a scenario oh so many of us know firsthand. Alex’s journey to recovery, like many of us, was not linear and indeed was marked by setbacks, yet what matters most is Alex truly surrendered and got honest about the reality of his addiction and alcoholism, and equally as important is he genuinely wanted and asked for help to start to truly recover. A recovery and wellness journey that brought about a profound spiritual awakening that allowed Alex to finally turn all of his pain into the remarkable purpose of helping others overcome alcoholism, addiction, and emotional trauma. Read: helping others transform their pain into purpose in their own lives. Without question, my conversation with Alex brings us a plethora of spiritual and recovery truth including how to apply his 5 Tenants of wellness so listen up. 5 Tenants of wellness: Rest, Physical Activity/Movement, Nutrition, Relationships, Spirituality/Mindfulness Alex Bales on Facebook is https://m.facebook.com/alex.bales.560?ref=bookmarks Alex Bales on Instagram is https://www.instagram.com/soberfitalex/ (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:27:27
June 22, 2021
That's What Junkies Do with Tommy Figs | The Way Out Podcast Episode 245
I’m delighted to reassure The Way Out faithful that our beloved co-host Jason is back with a killer interview. It’s been a minute since we’ve heard from Jason, but rest assured Jason is still rocking his recovery. Fact is, Jason was on out on assignment, getting us some more powerful recovery stories such as this one with Author and person in long term recovery, Tommy Figlioli, otherwise known as Tommy Figs. Tommy shares his journey to and through recovery to this point including his life growing up in Brooklyn NY, and the "bumpy road" to recovery as he calls it. From a kid desperate to fit in and missing that all important male role model to near suicide and living the hard street life to finally surrendering, getting honest and finding meaningful and enduring recovery, Tommy’s story has it all. We also talk about his hardest challenge while living clean and what inspired him to write a memoir entitled That's What Junkies Do. There's a whole lot of heart and even more HOPE in this episode so listen up. Contact info AND all the book and podcast appearances info for Tommy: https://linktr.ee/TommyFigs Book recommendation: Hands Like You Are Praying: by Sam Anthony Luciana Song that symbolizes recovery: Amazing by Aerosmith (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:33:39
June 14, 2021
Robert Pardon is The Recovery Guy | The Way Out Podcast Episode 244
In this edition of The Way Out we bring you an extraordinary interview I had the good fortune of having with The Recovery Guy, Robert Pardon, who just celebrated his 35th year of long-term recovery from alcoholism and addiction, and Hosts The Recovery Guy Podcast and is without question the genuine article. Roberts journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by profound feelings of inadequacy and not fitting in while in active addiction and alcoholism and using external substances and behaviors in an attempt to ameliorate this deep seeded pain, a feeling so many of us can deeply relate with. Robert’s recovery journey then, is consequently marked by meaningful connections to people in long term recovery who had something he desperately wanted – peace, serenity, and a level of contentment that demonstrates a recovery program well worked. There’s near limitless relatability to the internal and external adversity in Robert’s journey and the spiritual and recovery wisdom that emanates through his story is equally as vast. Without question the headline is that you can recover regardless of anything or anyone provided you follow a few simple suggestions – namely admit we have a problem, trust God as you understand God, clean house and help others. To that end Robert shares his experience, strength, and hope with a passion and rawness that’s as heartfelt as it is evocative and incredibly enlightening so Listen Up. Contact The Recovery Guy - Robert Pardon: https://recoveryguy.org/contact/ The Recovery Guy Podcast: https://recoveryguy.org/category/podcast/ Greatest Recovery Advice: You can get weller than well Song that Reminds Robert of Recovery “I Can’t Drive 55” – Sammy Haggar https://youtu.be/RvV3nn_de2k Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:49:39
June 7, 2021
Jeff & Debra Jay Reinvent Intervention with Love First - A Family's Guide to Intervention | The Way Out Podcast Episode 243
In this rendition of The Way Out we have an exceedingly revealing and illuminating discussion with renowned specialists and Authors on Love First Intervention, Jeff and Debra Jay. Both Jeff and Debra are in long term recovery in their own right, Jeff from addiction and alcoholism and Debra from the codependency and family side of recovery. Jeff’s owes his recovery and very life for that matter to a successful intervention, an experience that proved to be fateful indeed. Their experience in their own recovery journeys, combined with their subsequent professional experience in treating those with addiction and their families has culminated in a new model of addiction intervention that represents a true shift in what a traditional intervention looks like. A model that has been incredibly well laid in in the now Third Edition of their book Love First – A Family’s Guide to Intervention. I lieu of the often anger, threat, and ultimatum centric affair that aims to shame or scare the suffering addict or alcoholic into a recovery program, the Love First approach focuses on the family first and builds family recovery teams who are united in a love centered approach, and to that end have already begun their own recovery process well before the intervention is conducted. When the anger and negative emotions are removed, the dynamic has been radically changed, often with much more desirable outcomes for the addict who is suffering and the families who love them. We discuss the myth of the rock bottom requirement, what not to do in an intervention, the transformative power of a Love First Intervention, and most importantly that meaningful, enduring, and rewarding recovery for those who are in the midst of addiction and the families who love them is achievable and absolutely worth the effort so listen up. Love First: A Family’s Guide to Intervention by Jeff and Debra Jay: https://lovefirst.net/books-and-media/books-by-jeff-and-debra-jay/love-first-book/ Contact Jeff and Debra and Get Resources: https://lovefirst.net/resources/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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May 31, 2021
Dr. Paul Kaloostian on the Science of Addiction and Recovery | The Way Out Podcast Episode 242
In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a fascinating and indeed incredibly illuminating interview on the science of addiction with Neurosurgeon Dr. Paul Kaloostian. Dr. Kaloostian and I discuss the effects addictive substances have on our brain’s reward and memory centers, our physical wellness, and yes, even on our very genetic makeup which dovetails on what we already know about genetic predisposition to addiction. The known impact of addictive substances on our brain and body is quite profound, from the negative effect on our brain cells in response to these substances and behaviors, to the at times severe impact on our physical bodies. Equally or perhaps even more profound is the remarkably adaptive and healing properties of our brain cells and bodies to long-term abstinence and healthy behaviors that in many cases can completely reverse the damage initially caused by addictive substances or behaviors. We go on to explore the science behind how some of us are genetically predisposed to addictive substances and behaviors and how these substances and behaviors can actually change our very genetic makeup. Without question the best news Dr. Kaloostian brings us through the science of addiction and recovery is that the plasticity of or brain, and the healing properties of our bodies means that if we embrace sobriety and work toward wellness of our minds, bodies and spirits, true recovery – in every sense of that word is not only possible – it is a scientific certainty so Listen Up. Dr. Paul Kaloostian’s Writing: https://www.drpaulwriting.com Contact Dr. Paul Kaloostian: https://www.paulkaloostian.com/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa  (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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May 24, 2021
David Poses and the Truth About his Recovery | The Way Out Podcast Episode 241
In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly enlightening and supremely relevant interview with Author of the new book “The Weight of Air – A Story of the Lies About Addiction and the Truth about Recovery” and person in long term recovery, David Poses. David’s story is rooted in the all-too-common dual struggle of having a mental health disorder such as depression and addiction, which creates an often incredibly difficult and complex chicken or the egg, which is the problem and which is the symptom, kind of issue to address. Are the substances causing the mental health disorder or is the mental health disorder the root and the cause of the addiction? Certainly, there’s plenty of evidence to support the fact that drug and alcohol abuse and addiction can exacerbate mental health disorders, and indeed make difficult or impossible to effectively treat. Indeed, addiction can cause what might be best described as situational mental health issues like depression and anxiety and once the addiction is treated effectively and recovery is achieved the depression and anxiety lift or substantially improve. Conversely, the opposite is also true for many folks who are suffering from any one or a combination of a severe and often chronic clinical anxiety, depression or other mental health disorder that is causing such acute pain the only option is to kill it or numb it with a substance of choice, which often turns into a near intractable addiction. For David, his severe depression ultimately led to heroin use, which ultimately led a decade plus long addiction. David shares how a medication, buprenorphine, along with therapy was the key for him to achieve rewarding and enduring recovery when nothing else prior had worked, and why this can and should be a viable and available treatment option for those in the throws of opioid addiction and desperately looking for a way to safely and effectively stop opioid abuse and misuse and address their mental health so they can begin the life changing process that is recovery so listen up. The Weight of Air – A Story of the Lies About Addiction and the Truth about Recovery and person in long term recovery by David Poses: https://davidposes.com/the-weight-of-air Contact David: https://davidposes.com/contact-1 Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:28:36
May 17, 2021
From Jail to Joy with Amy Liz Harrison | The Way Out Podcast Episode 240
In this edition of The Way Out Jason’s got an interview that’s sure to be an instant classic here at The Way Out Podcast with person in long term recovery and author of the new memoir Eternally Expecting: A Mom of Eight Gets Sober and Gives Birth to a New Life...Her Own, Amy Liz Harrison. Jason and Amy talk about the pressures that came from trying to keep up appearances, both inside and outside the home, which was tantamount to Amy leading a Jekyll and Hyde double life. From the all too familiar childhood sense of feeling different from everyone else, to feeling like our substance of choice was the answer to all our problems, to the nothing short of miraculous recovery born out of the ashes of her rock bottom – Amy’s journey to and through recovery to this point is incredibly relatable, enlightening, and indeed inspiring. The journey through all the heartache will truly give you hope when you hear what recovery has done for the lives of Amy and her family. This one is genuinely a must hear so listen up. Connect with Amy Liz Harrison on Instagram @amylizharrison and visit www.amylizharrison.com. Eternally Expecting: A Mom of Eight Gets Sober and Gives Birth to a New Life...Her Own https://www.amazon.com/Eternally-Expecting-Eight-Sober-Gives/dp/1951407547/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Y7SKU9YHY3NR&dchild=1&keywords=eternally+expecting+book&qid=1619734857&sprefix=Eternally%2Caps%2C256&sr=8-3 Best piece of advice: "Be comfortable with being uncomfortable!" Book Recommendation: Big Book and NA literature Recovery song: Dreams by Van Halen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PqVeex4QU Daily Routine: meetings everyday, prayer and meditation most days, daily readings Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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May 10, 2021
Chantal Jauvin on Finding Love Without Martinis | The Way Out Podcast Episode 239
In this installment of The Way Out we bring you a remarkable, incredibly useful, and yes desperately needed discussion on how couples can build healthy, meaningful relationships in Recovery. It was a true pleasure and honor to interview Author and Attorney Chantal Jauvin, whom, along with her husband Bill has navigated their own and collective recovery journeys for 13 years and counting. There are many resources for those with a substance use disorder, like alcoholism or addiction and likewise a plethora of resources for those whom identify as co-dependent, the all too common manifestation of the family disease that is addiction. What is lacking, until now, is a guide for couples to work through the complex and challenging issues that they are faced with when alcoholism or addiction surfaces. Chantal set out to fill this chasm in the recovery literature sphere, and quite frankly – she nailed it with Love Without Martinis How Couples Build Healthy Relationships in Recovery based on real stories. Unquestionably the two key truths born out of Chantal’s work and subsequent book are embodied by two quotes by two well known authors in their own right. Earnie Larson and Tim O’Brien. The first truth, one close to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast is represented by Author Tim O’Brien’s quote that reads “Storytelling is the essential human activity. The harder the situation, the more essential it is.”. Arguably there is no more difficult situation a person can face than that of addiction, especially when we understand the full scope and effect it has on the addicted person and those closest to them – often their partner and immediate family. Hearing how others overcame their problem gives us a roadmap to overcome our own, and gives us hope that it is possible. They can be very much like trusted travel guides whom have been where we’ve been and relate to that, but at the very same time they have also been where we desperately want to go, and show us how they got there so they we might too. The second truth is personified by Recovery Author Earnie Larson who said “The core of recovery is becoming a person increasingly capable of functioning in a healthy relationship”. That’s the holy grail of Recovery, is to transcend mere abstinence and learn how to love ourselves and others in a healthy, rewarding way that aligns with the ideals of the people we’re striving to become. To that end, I give you a wonderfully enlightening and intensely valuable foray into how couples navigate the road to a happy and loving relationship in Recovery so listen up. Contact Chantal: https://chantaljauvin.com/contact-me/ Love Without Martinis by Chantal Jauvin: https://chantaljauvin.com/product/love-without-martinis/ Dr. Jeremy Frank (Book Contributor): https://jeremyfrankphd.com/  Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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May 4, 2021
You Can't Hurry Healing with Jennifer Leone | The Way Out Podcast Episode 238
In this rendition of The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason interviews woman in long term recovery, Jennifer Leone. Jennifer is truly an open book as she shares how she came back from the ashes of addiction and childhood trauma to find herself, rebuild her relationships, develop a stellar career, and found a powerful voice that she uses to help others recover! Jason and Jennifer talk about trauma, parenting, and purpose. Her story is proof positive that we can indeed recover from addiction, trauma, and live a rewarding life of purpose in sobriety. The recovery and spiritual truths that emanate throughout Jennifer’s journey are both universal and incredibly relatable. Her story also reminds us recovery is an ongoing process, and some things need to be worked on repeatedly. All of this makes for one highly instructive and inspiring interview so listen up. The Edge Treatment Center on Facebook and online: https://www.facebook.com/1801725480077272/ www.theedgetreatment.com Jennifer's Live Talk Show- https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC-Z6Y_xGrqD-uH0eSqGjFUw Contact Jennifer on her personal FB profile: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008260241318 Book Recommendation: "Think like a Monk" by Jay Shetty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y8QL432/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 Song Recommendation: You Can't Rush Your Healing by Trevor Hall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3FgNcASkVQ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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April 26, 2021
Every Clean & Sober Day Counts with Hope Collaton | The Way Out Podcast Episode 237
In this edition of the The Way Out we have an incredibly brave, honest and enlightening interview with someone that has recently begun their journey of recovery from alcohol and drug addiction. When this interview was recorded, Hope Collaton had a collective 104 days clean and 69 days sober – and it’s important to stress they were not continuous, and that’s been an important part of her process as she continues to learn and apply the tools of SMART recovery in her daily life. Often we in the recovery community get very hung up on a clean and sober date; after which point we’ve remained completely abstinent – and should we slip, or relapse we start all over again with a new date – like we’ve lost all of that time in sobriety we just worked so hard to accumulate. Without question, one of the big recovery truths that comes out of Hope’s journey to and through recovery to this point is that every day that we’re clean and sober, counts and helps us as we navigate the often non-linear, rocky road to meaningful and enduring recovery. Just as instructive is the truly transformative power that lies in a program of recovery that provides real tools that allow us to make meaningful changes to our thoughts and actions combined with a community of people who are modeling these positive behaviors and indeed show us, just like Hope does, that sustained and healthy recovery is indeed possible and without out question worth the effort so listen up. Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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April 19, 2021
Brothers in Recovery with Brandon Rudeen | The Way Out Podcast Episode 236
This week we’ve got a truly extraordinary interview for you with two brothers in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction. We hear what it was like for these brothers to grow up in the same house, with a single Mom and Dads that were either barely there, or not there at all. That’s right folks, our exceptional co-host interviews his younger brother, Brandon Rudeen on his own journey to and through this point in his recovery and let me tell you right now folks, it’s one wild ride with a whole lot of spiritual and recovery truth layered in. This interview is a genuinely special one to Jason, as evidenced by the deep talks they get into about recovery and the evolution of their relationship over the years. They used to get high together, and now by the grace of God they do recovery together so listen up. Contact Info: Brandon.rudeen59@gmail.com Best piece of advice: Bring the body, the mind will follow Book recommendation: Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous Song that reminds Brandon of my recovery: Nice to know you - Incubus Recovery Resource: Will Work for Recovery https://willworkforrecovery.org/ Daily Routine:  Start with a daily meditation reading and periodically talk to God Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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April 13, 2021
An Indigenous Journey to Recovery with Michael Wanbdi Gdeska OConnor | The Way Out Podcast Episode 235
In this edition of The Way Out, we’ve got an incredibly special interview with a person in long term recovery from the Native American Indigenous Community. His Native American name is Wanbdi Gdeska, which translates to Spotted Eagle, and he’s otherwise known as Michael Oconnor. Michael’s journey through and to this point in his recovery is both strikingly similar to, and profoundly different to so many we’ve had the sacred opportunity to share. So many of us can relate to adverse childhood experiences, and the trauma that can haunt us. So many of us can relate to the allure and vicious and seemingly unbreakable spell alcohol, drugs, and addictive behaviors can have on us. Indeed many of us can relate to reaching spiritual and emotional bankruptcy, and the unmistakably awful feeling that accompanies it. The truly fortunate among us have had the experience immediately following of a profound and sincere surrender and a genuine willingness to truly change and do whatever it takes to get better. Not too many of us, however, can truly understand how growing up as an indigenous person in America, complicates life. Likely very few of us can relate to the underprivileged conditions that are pervasive in the Native American community. Very few of us can truly relate to the experience of not seeing anyone that looks like you in recovery. No doubt, many of us thought we were unique and different, but the astonishingly low rates of recovery in the indigenous community make it very difficult for those in the indigenous community to find someone from their own community to relate to and serve as a mentor in recovery. Michael has taken this on as important part of his own recovery, to provide an example to those in his community that enduring, meaningful, and rewarding recovery is possible. Despite the very real differences in his journey to recovery, we get the unshakable feeling that the spiritual and recovery truths that Michael so humbly shares with us are with out a doubt universal and indeed achievable to all who earnestly seek them so listen up. Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:51:48
April 6, 2021
Jesse Plumley Didn't Come This Far Only to Come This Far | The Way Out Podcast Episode 234
This week our magnificent co-host Jason has a genuinely instructive interview with person in long term recovery, Jesse Plumley.  Jesse’s story of overcoming his battle with drugs and alcohol reinforces truly universal truths about alcoholism, addiction and what it takes to achieve durable recovery. We must, as Jesse did, admit to and face the fact we have a problem and then, and this is so critical, we must reach out and seek help from those who have overcome similar problems. We must, as Jesse did, be willing to do whatever it takes to get better and recover and be willing to help others just as we were when we needed it most. We must, as Jesse did, make fundamental lifestyle changes and surround ourselves with others who’ve done and are doing the same. Jesse’s recovery is not rooted in any one particular program, yet his journey and lifestyle changes mirror many of the fundamental principles of any well-known recovery program! No doubt about it, there’s lots of great recovery insights in this episode so listen up. Contact Jesse at jesseplumley1986@gmail.com Best Piece of Advice: Take it one day, or one moment at a time! Book Recommendation: Anything by Brene Brown Song that symbolizes recovery to Jesse: The Package by Perfect Circle Recommended recovery resources: Unlocking Us Podcast AND having a support network Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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March 29, 2021
A Recovery Journey to The Balanced Self with Will Black | The Way Out Podcast Episode 233
In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Yoga and meditation practitioner and advocate, as well as a Yoga Teacher and founder of The Balanced Self – Will Black. Will recounts his journey through alcoholism and to and through recovery to this point in extremely relatable, authentic, and transparent fashion. Of specific value is to hear Will share about his personal struggle with alcohol and depression and how tapping into a recovery community combined with meditation and ultimately Yoga provided a transformational pathway to lasting and meaningful recovery. Undoubtedly one of the key recovery truths Will’s story highlights is how important connecting to a recovery community with others in sobriety is in entering and maintaining recovery. This is how we learn and really begin to believe that if other folks that are like us can get better, then indeed we can too. Of equal importance is finding a recovery pathway that both speaks to you and works for you, in Will’s case Meditation and Yoga, so that integrating it into your daily routine allows for it to truly become a way of life you actually enjoy living. Regardless of your preferred recovery pathway there’s much we can learn from Will’s journey to sobriety and ultimately the Balanced Self so Listen Up. Reach to Will: https://www.willowenblack.com/ R/StopDrinking on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:10:47
March 23, 2021
A Savage Journey to Recovery with Stephen J Sacchi | The Way Out Podcast Episode 232
In this edition of the way out our exceptional co-host Jason brings us an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery and author of the new addiction memoir Savage: A Journey Through the Opioid Epidemic, Stephen J Sacchi. If you’re like us, you’ll be instantly smitten with Stephen’s quick wit and always honest and often dark and self-deprecating humor that is artfully interwoven into a spellbinding recounting of his often-rocky road to recovery. He shares honestly about the struggles he had along the way and what it was like writing his memoir Savage. Without question, Stephen’s story illuminates two irrefutably universal truths about addiction and recovery. First, our rock bottom is when we stop digging and often that is an emotional and spiritual bottom – not a monetary or material one. Second, and equally as instructive, is that recovery and building a new life is a process that takes time, often years or even decades. If we allow ourselves to be patient and bite it off in one day at a time chunks, we will get better and in turn, life will follow suit. After all the lessons Stephen’s learned there's lots of instructive wisdom in this episode so listen up. Best piece of advice- It takes years to build a better life Book Recommendation- The War of Art: by Stephen Pressfield: https://www.amazon.com/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/1936891026/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2QF7HZA4CWMZH&dchild=1&keywords=the+war+of+art+by+steven+pressfield&qid=1614791057&sprefix=The+war+of+art%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1 Song that symbolizes recovery to Stephen Drive : by Incubus Contact Info: @unclesacchi on Instagram Stephen's book Savage is available on Amazon and at Barnes and Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/savage-stephen-j-sacchi/1138379483 Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:35:39
March 16, 2021
50 Ways to Worry Less Now in Recovery with Gigi Langer | The Way Out Podcast Episode 231
In this installment of The Way Out we have an ultra-informative and super-instructive interview with person in long term recovery and Author of the new, and folks I don’t say this often, absolute must-read book  - 50 Ways to Worry Less Now -  Gigi Langer. Gigi shares with us her journey to and through recovery and what she’s learned up to this point in 35 years of sobriety including many of the recovery, spiritual, energy, and cognitive tools that can put an end to the pernicious worry, anxiety and ultimately fear that dogs so many of us prior to, and even in sobriety. Without question one of the overriding and compelling elements arising out of Gigi’s story is the series of reckonings and recoveries that occur throughout her recovery journey, starting with addiction and alcoholism, all the way through codependency and being an adult child of an alcoholic. Equally as fascinating is the phenomenon and experience of being an a Highly Sensitive Person, first identified by Dr. Elaine Aron and how profoundly important it was for her to understand and accept this about herself and then undergo a process of learning, acquiring, and applying an assortment of tools to bring about a transformative recovery rooted in the 12-Steps and a Higher Power. There’s so much spiritual truth and recovery tools in this here interview so you might just have to play this one twice but whatever you, do make sure you listen up. 50 Ways to Worry Less Now: Reject Negative Thinking to Find Peace, Clarity, and Connection https://gigilanger.com/ Other Books and Resources Recommended by Gigi Langer: Pema Chodron: https://pemachodronfoundation.org/product-category/books/ Dr. Kristin Neff: https://self-compassion.org/ A Course in Miracles: https://acim.org/ Emmet Fox: https://www.unity.org/sites/unity.org/files/files/Free-Materials/2018/Exerpt-GoldenKey-booklet.pdf http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/The%20Sermon%20on%20the%20Mount.pdf The Shack: http://wmpaulyoung.com/the-shack/ Highly Sensitive Person (Elaine Aron): https://hsperson.com/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:18:28
March 8, 2021
Tri-Polar: The Recovery Story of a Bipolar Athlete with Tim Davis | The Way Out Podcast Episode 230
We have Author of the new book Tri-Polar: The Story of a Bipolar Athlete and person in long term recovery Tim Davis. Tim, as you may have guessed, lives with Bipolar disorder and shares an exceedingly instructive and remarkable story of recovery from drug and alcohol addiction in the midst of also having to come to grips with and learn to successfully cope with his mental health. Tim’s story is ultimately one of personal triumph over two seemingly intractable afflictions; addiction and bipolar disorder. Out of this victory we gain incredibly valuable wisdom and insight into what it took for Tim to overcome the very diseases that threatened his very life and come to understand that if we apply the same formula to our own lives, we too can achieve meaningful and enduring recovery. Without question, Tim’s story bears irrefutable witness to the redeeming value of true surrender, absolute willingness to do whatever it takes to get better, and the commitment to addressing mental health alongside a recovery program such as the 12-Steps so listen up. Tri-Polar: The Story of a Bipolar Athlete by Tim Davis: https://ultratimdavis.com/?fbclid=IwAR2_gT_ar27_znlYuhtBot0100TWksr2o9SwPro3L-NPTDGCw0h9M3M9glk Contact Tim Davis: https://ultratimdavis.com/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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March 2, 2021
Truth 101 with Veronica Powell | The Way Out Podcast Episode 229
In this edition of the The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason gets the straight truth in his interview with Veronica Powell. Veronica talks about growing up on the south side of Chicago, becoming a product of the harsh and difficult environment in which she grew up, and how trying it was to navigate her childhood without any real positive male role models. After years of abusive relationships and struggling with drugs and alcohol, Veronica tells us how God set her free from the chains of addiction and gave her a newfound purpose and a servant's heart! She definitely sticks to the truth and keeps it real on this episode so listen up. Best piece of advice: Just be YOU! Book Recommendation: Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren Song that symbolizes recovery for Veronica: Your Love by William Murphy Recovery Resources: changingourcity.org minnesotahopedealerz.org  and Truth101 via FaceBook Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:41:10
February 23, 2021
Colin Cash and the Sober Squad | The Way Out Podcast Episode 228
In this edition of The Way Out co-host extraordinaire Jason has a certified must listen interview with person in longtime recovery and co-founder of the Recovery group Sober Squad, Colin Cash. Colin was born on a reservation in northern Minnesota but was raised as a ward of the state, bouncing between foster homes and group homes. With no roots and no loving home, he shares about where his problems took him and how he ultimately found a way out. No doubt one of the over-arching themes of Colin’s recovery story is the false beliefs that kept him stuck and in his addiction, and the positive beliefs, like in that of his Higher Power, that helped him achieve a meaningful and lasting recovery and a very special belief that led him to start a movement which would help those within and outside of his community! Colin’s come from thinking he was a zero to a being a true recovery hero and he’s just getting started so listen up. Contact Info: Sober Squad Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SoberSquad2016/?ref=share Book Recommendations: In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: by Gabor Mate Song that symbolizes recovery to Colin: Make a Change by Nahko and The Medicine People https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUqWAxsSZM Great Spirit by Nahko Bear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M7nETLOsKQ Daily Routine: Being present in each moment (mindfulness) Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
02:11:57
February 17, 2021
Our Recovery Life with Tom Walsh | The Way Out Podcast Episode 227
This week Jason’s got a wonderful interview with the founder and creator of the YouTube Recovery Series Our Recovery Life. Tom's story resonates on so many levels as he shares his journey to and through recovery thus far with a no holds barred approach on sharing what it was like, what happened, and what it’s like now. There’s some downright insane moments that will leave you wondering how he gets through and equally inspiring moments that provide real, honest to goodness hope. Tom has developed new passions on this journey and found some great meaning and purpose in his own life along the way. You quite simply can't help but be inspired by the story you're about to hear so Listen Up. Book Recommendation: NA Basic Text and The Journey Continues Recovery Song :High Cost Of Living by Jamey Johnson Best piece of advice: Never give up Most difficult thing Tom did: Ask for help Most rewarding thing Tom did: His Family Contact Tom via email : ourrecoverylife@gmail.com Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/Our-Recovery-Life-113845923667016 On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwTv17wU1i6DtiS8-EQ3ikA/videos Coming soon= Our Recovery Life Podcast and Live on Twitch TV Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
02:16:36
February 10, 2021
The Addicted Child with Richard Capriola | The Way Out Podcast Episode 226
In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a must listen interview with Richard Capriola who shares with us invaluable tools that can serve as a guide we can use should we have an adolescent child or loved one that may be engaging in Substance Abuse. Many of us know all too well, how devastating addiction and alcoholism can be to a family, especially if the addicted individual is a child or adolescent.  For over two decades, Richard has been providing mental health and addiction counseling services to both adults and adolescents, giving him a wealth of experience and knowledge in the areas of addiction and mental health diagnosis and treatment. One critical fact we explore in our discussion is the key differences in how addiction manifests itself in the life of an adolescent as compared to an adult. These key differences impact how we identify a substance abuse problem in an adolescent versus an adult and can make all the difference in making a real and meaningful difference in a child’s life.  Richard has distilled all of this incredibly valuable wisdom and practical guidance in his new book The Addicted Child: A Parent's Guide to Adolescent Substance Abuse. We discuss how we recognize substance abuse, addiction, alcoholism, as well as process and mental health disorders in an adolescent child, how we can get them the help they need, and what that help looks like in adolescent children so listen up. The Addicted Child: A Parent's Guide to Adolescent Substance Abuse by Richard Capriola https://www.amazon.com/Addicted-Child-Parents-Adolescent-Substance-ebook/dp/B08KJHJYBY Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:05:05
February 2, 2021
A Thousand Wasted Sundays with Victoria Vanstone | The Way Out Podcast Episode 225
We have a truly remarkable story to share with you about a woman, who’s life throughout her adolescence and for most of her adult life, had two constants - chaos and alcohol. Like so many of us who have battled King Alcohol or the Dictator that is Addiction the all too familiar company of trauma and mental health issues make their appearances in this truly extraordinary story of how this remarkable woman who’s relationship with alcohol never seems to be a problem. In fact, in so many ways Alcohol becomes so tightly integrated into her identity it becomes nearly impossible to separate herself from the alcohol fueled escapades that only serve to add to the wild and enigmatic persona that is always the life of the party and surely the last one to call it a night. A story, told through the eyes of mother, writer, and soon to be published Author, and indeed the one person who had the best view of it all, Victoria Vanstone herself. Victoria’s story is chalked full of relatable experiences, wisdom, and sobriety truth – and of equal value are the two key messages that rise to the top and are as striking as they are instructive. Minimizing real pain from trauma does not make it disappear. Trauma of any kind, no matter how insignificant it may seem as compared to another, affects each of us differently and the emotional toll it exacts it quite real and must be dealt with in order for any meaningful recovery to take place. Victoria also underscores an important fact – alcoholism and addiction is very spectrum and we need not meet a litmus test to reckon with our own relationship with alcohol or substances. Read: we don’t have to be penniless and destitute to fully concede to our innermost selves that in fact alcohol is no longer serving us; an instead is very much harming us and indeed is preventing us from living the life we are truly capable of living so Listen Up. Victoria Vanstone’s Blog: Drunk Mummy Sober Mummy - https://www.drunkmummysobermummy.com/ The Sober Social for Sober Curious Women - https://www.facebook.com/groups/913823235768685 Look for Victoria’s new book coming to an online book seller soon! A Thousand Wasted Sundays (All About Becoming A Sober Parent) Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:28:11
January 25, 2021
How to Stop the Backslide & Reverse Regression in Recovery | The Way Out Podcast Episode 224
We’ve prepared for you an incredibly relevant and applicable Power Topic to serve as the main feature of this rendition of The Way Out Podcast. If we’ve been in recovery for any substantial length of time, it’s quite likely we’ve experienced a common and often subtle enemy to our serenity, happiness, and indeed sobriety itself. Regression, or backsliding as it may be dubbed, is process in which we revert to either old patterns of thinking or behavior, or pickup new counter-productive thoughts or conduct that actively work against our forward progress in Recovery. These attitudes, thoughts, and behaviors, if left unchecked can very much erode our serenity and peace of mind, often referred to us being “dry” or suffering from “untreated alcoholism or addiction” and even could present the ultimate consequence – relapse. These warning signs are also an opportunity to apply the HOW in our recovery toolkit, wherein we apply rigorous honesty about the attitudes, thoughts, and behaviors we’re currently and actively engaging in and then being open and willing to do the work required to change our behaviors in order begin moving forward again, one day at a time. We’ll address how we can identify if we’re regressing, and provide a practical guide on HOW we make the simple changes that will have us cultivating gratitude and forgiveness of self and others and engaging in constructive recovery-enhancing activities, plus we’ll share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls so Listen Up! Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
01:20:54
January 18, 2021