“There are no rules, just musicals.” The Broadway Ginger Podcast is a humorous lovenote to Broadway for theatre nerds by theatre nerds. Aimed at celebrating and maintaining a cultural appreciation for musicals and their history, this season sees host Sally Henry Fuller and a guest host discussing the people who built and are building the American musical theatre in their new "Name-Dropping Broadway" series. Join the conversation every Monday. TheBroadwayGinger.com // @thebwayginger
That moment when you’re preparing your second audition for a musical and realize you’ll be singing for the show’s legendary composer himself… No pressure. Actor Hunter Ryan Herdlicka had that exact experience on his way to landing the role of Henrik in the 2009 Broadway revival of A Little Night Music, by Stephen Sondheim. Join host Sally Fuller and Herdlicka for a chat about all things Night Music- what it was like to work with true Broadway legends, how he learned to play an instrument in four weeks, and how he came out of the experience with a dear friend, Elaine Stritch. Visit our website for today's show notes including videos of the performances mentioned, addendums, and some photos from A Little Night Music.
Mentions: George Washington, Hamilton, Christopher Jackson, Lea Salonga, Miss Saigon, Aladdin, Mulan, Marni Nixon, West Side Story, My Fair Lady, Ellen Marlow, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Angela Lansbury, Bernadette Peters, Elaine Stritch, Ramona Mallory, Victoria Mallory, Mark Lambert, Candide, Alliance Theatre, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, 30 Rock, Cafe Carlyle
Step into the exciting party scene of 1930s Berlin with a racy M.C. as your tour guide through the lens of the seedy Kit Kat Klub. With dancing to do and interesting people to meet, what could possibly break the cycle of fun? Such is the backdrop of Cabaret, one of Producer/Director Harold "Hal" Prince's most innovative musicals. Not only does this piece tell a chilling story of a world-changing time, but it introduces the first ever "concept musical." Join host Sally Fuller with guest host Laura Carman as they explore how this piece stole Academy Awards from the greatest film of all time, discuss why Prince won't do revivals, and reveal why Alan Cumming won't talk to Sally again. Be sure to check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus content!
Mentions: Spring Awakening, Company, Alfred Hitchcock, Hamilton, Follies, Bernadette Peters, Lotte Lenya, Alan Cumming, Christopher Isherwood, Goodbye to Berlin, I am a Camera, John Van Druten, Ron Field, Joel Grey, Jill Haworth, Judi Dench, John Kander and Fred Ebb, Boris Aronson, Rob Marshall, Sam Mendes, Spy Kids, Susan Stroman
We pick up our conversation about Broadway’s most influential creator with a deep dive into one of his most enduring musicals. With the unmistakably Harold Prince trademark of a theme-based plot, our chosen deep dive is Fiddler on the Roof, the last musical of Broadway’s Golden Age. Host Sally Fuller is again joined by Laura Carman to discuss what makes a religious story about “a small town and their small issues” Broadway’s most internationally beloved musical. Be sure to check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for bonus videos and episode extras!
Mentions: Sheldon Harnick, Jerry Bock, Joseph Stein, The Little Mermaid, Sholem Alecheim, Jerome Robbins, Cameron Mackintosh, Boris Aronson, Zero Mostel, Nathan Lane, Fred Coe, Mark Chagall, The Sound of Music, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, Bea Arthur, The Golden Girls, Mame, Angela Lansbury, House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC), Ratatouille, TikTok, Bridgerton.
How do you get to be the most influential Broadway mogul in the history of the American theatre and set an unbreakable record of Tony Award wins? Insatiable passion and luck. Meet director/producer Harold “Hal” Prince, who spent 64 years shaping our beloved art form into what it is now. Host Sally Fuller and guest host/Hal Prince aficionado Laura Carman dive into Prince’s young beginnings and path to Broadway as the BGP's way of wishing the legend a posthumous “Happy 93rd birthday.” Check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for bonus videos, further reading, and more!
Episode Mentions: Into the Woods, Toni Morrison, George Abbott, Robert Griffith, Jerry Bock, Sheldon Harnick, Cameron Mackintosh, Freddy Coe, Boris Aronson, Damn Yankees, The Pajama Game, Fiorello!, Pulitzer Prize for Drama
In the conclusion of our Stephen Schwartz spotlight, we explore what makes him a keeper in the American musical theatre landscape, making the bold statement that of all his work, Wicked will, in fact, be his lasting legacy. Guest host Madison Garrett joins host Sally Fuller to deep dive into the backstories and journey of what Schwartz has called "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in Oz.” Be sure to check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus videos and even more to the crazy story behind Avenue Q’s producers securing their Tony Award over Wicked!
Episode Mentions: Idina Menzel, Kristin Chenoweth, Stephanie J. Block, Joel Grey, Robert Morse, How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, Norbert Leo Butz, Fred and Adele Astaire Award, Chita Rivera, Jeremy Jordan, Newsies, Carole Shelley, Robin Hood, Christopher Fitzgerald, Waitress, Michele Federer, Wayne Cilento, A Chorus Line, Dancing With the Stars, Winnie Holzman, Caroline, or Change, Avenue Q, Taboo, Barbra Streisand, Hamilton, The Fox Theatre in Atlanta and Missouri, Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.
Local theatre shout-out: Musical Theater Heritage in Kansas City, MO
Join us! We’re kicking off a new series, “Name-Dropping Broadway,” highlighting the people who have built Broadway through the years. We start with a composer/lyricist we affectionately call “the gateway drug to musical theatre,” whose career opened with Godspell, had an 11 o’clock number at Wicked, and is still going strong. Host Sally Fuller and special guest host Madison Garrett take a look at the young beginnings of Stephen Schwartz’s career through the lens of his most “extraordinary” piece- Pippin. Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for bonus videos and general theatre nerdery!
Mentions: Center for Puppetry Arts, Ben Vereen, Bob Fosse, John Rubinstein, Matthew James Thomas, Terrence Mann, Jonathan Freeman, Ann Reinking, Tim Curry, Elle Crawford, Jerry Orbach, Clive Barnes, PATINA MILLER, Pippin Australia, Miss Saigon, The Heat is On, Disney, Pocahontas, The Prince of Egypt, Enchanted, The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Sally sits down with Broadway stars Isabella Russo and Luca Padovan to talk all things Junior Theater Festival in anticipation of Atlanta’s online JTF extravaganza, coming up 1/15-17. This pair shared the stage in SCHOOL OF ROCK and have been best friends ever since! And when it comes to the annual JTF, Isabella and Luca's performances and social media updates are a staple. Join us to kick off our second season with this chat about JTF adjudications, a surreal Pasek and Paul moment, RATATOUILLE the musical, and more! Make sure to check out the show notes at TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus performance videos of our special guests, and visit juniortheaterfestival.com for more info on upcoming events.
Mentions: iTheatrics, Timothy Allen McDonald, James and the Giant Peach, The Greatest Showman, Matilda, Six, Mean Girls, The Prom, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Ratatouille
Christmas songs and Broadway songs have to be the two most delightful genres. And when they are mixed, in the words of Ashley, "It's chef's kiss!" Did you know that many popular songs of the season were written by Broadway composers? Many of the tunes were originally from musicals, though not always Christmas-themed ones. Today we take a deep dive into those Christmas songs from our Broadway guys. Join us as we compare The Sound of Music era to Narnia, learn how to holiday-ify a regular song, and coin the term "Marketing Magicians." Be sure to check out our show notes for recommendations for streaming theatre this season, bonus videos, and a chance to take our listener survey before the end of the year! //
Local theatre shout-outs: Aurora Theatre, Synchronicity Theatre, Alliance Theatre
Mentions: Robert Goulet, Carol Lawrence, Frank Loesser, Guys and Dolls, Neptune’s Daughter, How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, Holiday Inn, Irving Berlin, Bing Crosby, “Mr. Les Mis Himself” Colm Wilkinson, Jerry Herman, Mame, Angela Lansbury - “The Grandmother of Broadway,” Lucille Ball, I Love Lucy, Hello, Dolly!, Meredith Wilson, The Music Man, Unsinkable Molly Brown, Here’s Love, Miracle on 34th Street, 1491 the musical, Meet Me in St. Louis, Judy Garland, Vincente Minnelli, Liza Minnelli, Craig A. Meyer, The Sound of Music, Julie Andrews, West Side Story, The Garry Moore Show, Jeremy Aggers
WE’RE BACK! We may have dramatically ended Season 1 last week, but we’ve returned to talk more theatre and more jazz hands. Today we go off the grid with a little break from musical deep dives to talk about “how to theatre” (as Ashley so eloquently put it). Join us as we share stories about our best and most embarrassing celebrity encounters, coin the term “for the love of Sondheim,” and discuss theatregoing strategies (spoiler alert: the phrase “bathroom tour” is said). Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for even more content and a link to take our listener survey!
Mentions: BroadwayWorld.com, Wicked, Clifton Hall, “The Bear Skit” (bless), Terrence Mann, The Addams Family, Bebe Neuwirth, Nathan Lane, Krysta Rodriguez (remember, the actress Ashley would murder to see?), Wesley Taylor, Pippin, Matthew James Thomas, Aaron Tveit, Moulin Rouge!, Jodi Benson, The Little Mermaid.
The American Musical Theatre was built on great songwriters whose names can't be said without their partners'. Oklahoma!, The Sound of Music, and Cinderella might as well be credited to one hyphenated name, Rodgers-and-Hammerstein. Today we take a look at some equally inseparable duos with an emphasis on Lerner & Loewe and one of their masterpieces, Camelot. Join us as we learn about the battle of the Richards (Burton and Harris), how much the Tonys committee snubbed the original show, and why Camelot seems to be universal homeschooler sewing music.
Check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus Broadway videos and fun facts! ...while you’re there, take a look at our survey and let us know what you think of the BGP!
Local theatre spotlight: Georgia Ensemble Theatre in Roswell, GA
MENTIONS: Camelot, Alan Jay Lerner, Frederick “Fritz” Loewe, Benj Pasek and Justin Paul, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Leonard Bernstein, Cole Porter, Dame Julie Andrews, The Once and Future King, Richard Burton, Robert Goulet, Roddy McDowall, Richard Harris, Jack Warner, Warner Bros., Roger Ebert, Michael Lerner. OFF-TOPIC MENTIONS: James Bond, Sean Connery, Mission Impossible, Jason Bourne, Smash, Jeremy Jordan, Katharine McPhee, My Fair Lady, Brigadoon, Gene Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor, Boy Meets World, Toy Story 2, That Darn Cat, Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Rex Harrison, Forrest Gump, StarKid, Darren Criss, The Sword in the Stone, Carol Channing, Thoroughly Modern Millie, Harry Potter, Oliver Reed, Atlanta Lyric Theatre, Lyndsay Ricketson, Alliance Theatre
When Lionel Bart penned one of the greatest British musicals of all time, he had no reason to think his first hit would be his last. Join us as we delve into the success of Oliver! and the bizarre trajectory of its author in this week’s episode about one-hit-wonder composers. Along the way, we discover a burlesque Robin Hood musical was a real thing, a future pop star was in the original cast of Oliver!, and Ashley has a strong Pavlovian response to hearing the album. Check out TheBroadwayGinger.com for some elaboration on the episode including Oliver! videos of the amazing Patti LuPone, and while you're there, take a few minutes to take our listener survey!
Local theatre spotlight: The Pumphouse Players in Cartersville, GA
Mentions: Oliver!, Lionel Bart, Ron Moody, Jack Wild, Phil Collins, Danny Sewell, Michael Caine, Davy Jones, Patti LuPone, Eric Rodgers, The West End, Blitz!, Twang!!, Mark Lester, Roger Ebert, Rowan Atkinson, Kerry Ellis. Off-topic mentions: The Music Man, Meredith Wilson, Mitch Leigh, The Man of La Mancha, Richard Kiley, The King and I, Joe Darion, The Monkees, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Cats, Matthew Morrison, Sean Connery, From Russia with Love, Mark Steyn, Kathe Green.
The Pulitzer Prize for Drama almost always goes to a critically-acclaimed straight play by someone really serious like Eugene O’Neill or August Wilson, but on rare occasions, it goes to a musical. Only ten musicals have ever won. So today we take a look at some of those select few and take a deep dive into a huge favorite of ours, Next to Normal. Join us as we try to get through a whole episode without giggling every time the name “Aaron Tveit” is said. Check out our show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com to watch Next to Normal videos including the recent Stars in the House reunion. And while you're there, take a few minutes to take our listener survey!
Local theatre shout-out: The Alliance Theatre in Atlanta, GA
Our favs: "Tveiter-tots," Next to Normal, Aaron Tveit, Alice Ripley, J. Robert Spencer, Jennifer Damiano, Louis Hobson, Adam Chanler-Berat, Ben Brantley, Helen Hayes Awards, Tony Awards, Feeling Electric, Norbert Leo Butz, Sherie Rene Scott. Off-topic mentions: Arthur Miller, August Wilson, Of Thee I Sing, South Pacific, Rodgers and Hammerstein, The Fox Theatre, How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, Walter Kerr, Rent (Ashley’s favorite show), Side Show, Emily Skinner, Spiderman: Turn off the Dark, The Sound of Music, Peter and the Starcatcher, Amelie, Philippa Soo, the Les Miserables movie, Grease Live!, Dear Evan Hansen, The Last Five Years, The Arena Stage, 30 Rock, Billy Elliot, Stockard Channing, Pal Joey, Ben Platt, Tuck Everlasting, The Color Purple
There are few better moments for theatre people than discovering our favorite songwriting team has written more than just that one hit show we love (looking at you, Lin-Manuel Miranda). In today’s episode, Sally and Ashley discuss when they have experienced such moments with Lin himself, Andrew Lippa, and Tom Jones/Harvey Schmidt of The Fantasticks. Join us for an Audra McDonald fangirl sesh as we deep dive into Jones and Schmidt’s lesser-known but awesome 110 in the Shade. Visit our show notes for bonus videos of Audra, plus more fun facts for theatre nerds on TheBroadwayGinger.com. And while you're there, take a few minutes to take our listener survey!
Local theatre shout-out: Marietta’s New Theatre in the Square
Relevant favs: The Fantasticks, Audra McDonald, Steve Kazee, Gower Champion, Tom Jones, Harvey Schmidt, Inga Swenson, Lesley Ann Warren, Scooter Teague, John Cullum, Richard Horton, David Merrick, Greencastle Indiana's Putnam County Playhouse. Off-topic mentions: Hamilton, 21 Chump Street, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Andrew Lippa, A Little Princess, The Wild Party, Josh Groban, Chess the musical (or “Checkers” as Ashley said), Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812, Damn Yankees, Carol Channing, Barbra Streisand, Michael Maguire (tbh we’re still trying to find what happened to him, and listen to our first episode for our Michael Maguire rant), The Alliance Theatre, The Prom musical, James Corden, Cats, Andrew Lloyd Webber, The Phantom of the Opera, Sierra Boggess, Will Chase, Theatrical Outfit.
Musical theatre has a history of big, splashy, high-kicking casts, and that's what many people think when they hear the word "musical." The increasing trend for writers wanting to tell a poignant, dramatic story (and producers wanting to pay fewer actors) is to use a tiny cast of six or fewer to narrow the focus without getting distracted by glitter.
In today's episode, we examine tiny-cast shows with a deep dive into one of Ashley's favorites, Daddy Long Legs. We debate the title, discuss why every straight play should be a musical (except The Crucible), postulate that Megan McGinnis is likely an Enneagram 6, and Sally tries to keep Ashley from reciting the entire libretto. For bonus videos consisting mostly of Megan McGinnis being radiantly perfect, check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com. And while you're there, take a few minutes to take our listener survey!
Local theatre shout-out: Stage Door Players in Dunwoody, GA
Ourfavs: Pumphouse Players, Stage Door Players, 110 in the Shade, Lord of the Rings the musical, The Story of My Life, Our Buddy Ben Brantley, Will Chase, Malcolm Gets, Emma, Paul Gordon, John Caird, Megan McGinnis, Adam Halpin, The Last Five Years, Jane Austen's Emma, Next to Normal, Suzi Bass Awards, Chase Peacock, Legacy Theatre.
Other mentions: St. James Theatre, Frozen, American Idiot, BroadwayHD (where you can stream Megan and her husband Adam in DLL!).
Is there anything quite like community theatres? They offer the unique chance for average locals to form the most diverse casts imaginable, where a city council member and accountant get to perform a very ok but entertaining version of "Brush up Your Shakespeare" from Kiss Me, Kate. They comfortingly present classics but tend to perform those same classics over and over again. Due to overexposure to wildly overdone musicals in community theatres (looking at you, Seussical), Sally and Ashley now have the Community Theatre Formula down to a jazz-handed science. In today’s episode, we take a deep dive into Little Shop of Horrors, compare it to VeggieTales, and discover Sally’s parents’ one irreconcilable difference in their 44-year marriage revolves around The Sound of Music.
Our favs: Junior Theatre Festival (where we saw way too many Seussical performances), Pumphouse Players, Howard Ashman, the Disney+ documentary Howard, Alan Menken, Larry Boy and the Rumor Weed, Cameron Mackintosh, Kerry Butler, Douglas Sills, The Scarlet Pimpernel musical (we managed to make that relevant again), Cathy Rigby, Pocahontas, Tim Rice, Stephen Schwartz, Jodi Benson (Ariel in The Little Mermaid, Doria in Smile)
Other mentions: Aaron Carter, Kevin Chamberlain, Tangled, Ellen Greene, Hunter Foster (yes, Sutton Foster’s brother), Anthony Rapp, Rent
Local theatre shout-out: Act 1, Inc. in Cartersville, GA
For bonus videos including Douglas Sills schooling all of us with his pipes, check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com.
The only thing more exciting than a Disney movie is a Disney Broadway musical. While the House of Mouse gave the people what they wanted via Broadway mounts of Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Frozen, Tarzan, Mary Poppins, and Newsies, did you know there are Disney shows that have been performed in regional theatres around the world and still haven’t made it to Broadway? Today’s episode sees Sally and Ashley take a deep dive into one such show, The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Neither of us has any chill whatsoever, as we deliver love letters to “the hunch of dame," bring the BGP “full frontal Hugo,” and make a case for why Terrence Mann MUST play Frollo whenever it comes to Broadway.
Mentions: DISNEY, The Goodman Theatre, Mary Zimmerman, Alliance Theatre, Mulan, High School Musical, Hercules, Alan Menken, David Zippel, Krysta Rodriguez, The Public Theatre, Patrick Page, Michael Arden, La Jolla Playhouse, Paper Mill Playhouse, Hamilton, Terrence Mann, aka, T-Dog, Little Women the musical, Les Miserables.
Local theatre shout-out: The Aurora Theatre in Lawrenceville, GA
Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus content including videos of Michael Arden, the cast of Germany's Der Glöckner von Notre Dame, and more!
We all know there's no distance that can get between theatre fans and shows they love. From skipping prom to road-tripping across the state, we have all gone to creative lengths for the love of theatre. Today we discuss the miles we’ve traveled to see some favorite musicals (and the times our parents have fought ushers for programs). Join us as we take a deep dive into Little Women, Ashley building a case for why it is worth listening to, and Sally building a case for why it’s worth skipping (like prom).
Mentions: Musical Theater Heritage, George Harter, Sutton Foster, Megan McGinnis, Christian Borle, Laura Benanti, Daddy Long Legs
Local theatre shout-out: Elm Street Cultural Arts Village in Woodstock, GA
Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com for some bonus content including videos of Little Women, Sutton Foster, Megan McGinnis, and more.
In our second episode, two former homeschoolers go back to school. Or home. Or wherever theatre education can be found. Our trip down memory lane reveals that Sally starred in an in-the-round, living room production of The Little Mermaid as a child, and Ashley’s homeschool group might or might not have rehearsed an original play in a friend’s pool. Ashley gets an excuse to gush about the wonder that is Cathy Rigby as we take a deep dive into Broadway's Peter Pan.
Mentions: Mary Martin, Cathy Rigby, Cyril Ritchard, Peter Pan Live!, Allison Williams, Christopher Walken (bless his heart), Christian Borle, Michael Park, Newsies, the Tony Awards.
Local theatre shout-out: The Atlanta Lyric Theatre in Marietta, GA.
Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com to watch some videos we mentioned about Peter Pan, Cathy Rigby, and some hilarious stage mishaps. We'll also include some pics of Sally and Ashley's earliest theatre experience, just for fun.
In our debut episode, we share our first introductions to the theatre world to discover that Sally fell in LOVE with The Scarlet Pimpernel as a child, and Ashley went full homeschooler on her Phantom of the Opera obsession by reading the book first. After making our case for why Les Mis=Aladdin, we take a deep dive into Les Miserables with a constructive dump on the 2012 movie.
We talked really excitedly about a bunch of Broadway people we love, and we don’t want you to miss their names due to our fangirl speed, so here’s a list of our favs: Colm Wilkinson, Lea Salonga, Aaron Tveit, Terrence Mann, Michael Maguire, and Frances Ruffelle. Oh, and Hadley-freaking-Fraser.
Local theatre shout-out: The Pumphouse Players in Cartersville, GA.
Check out the show notes on TheBroadwayGinger.com to watch some videos we mentioned about Les Miserables, Robert Preston, and the 1987 Tony Awards.
Join theatre nerds Sally and Ashley as they take a deep dive into a musical every Monday, discussing everything from the plot to fun facts about the original cast. Spoiler alert: their first episode on October 5 will be about their early theatre obsessions and will center around Les Miserables. Here’s a sneak peek at that conversation!