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The tougher conversations about human behavior. An extension of The Daily BA.
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#010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion | The Controversial Exchange
In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri reflect on a recent episode of the Behavioral Observations Podcast w/ Matt Cicoria on The Illusion of Work/Life Balance. Thanks for inspiring us Matt, Jonathan, and Kristen! 0:02:24 Check Out: The Behavioral Observations Podcast 0:02:29 Check Out: The Daily BA's Video on Work-Life Balance 0:09:14 Topic Change: RYANO's Experience and Advice for Balancing Life, Work, and Personal Values 0:12:14 Topic Change: Is there such a thing as work-life balance? 0:14:14 Topic Change: Value Directed Behavior and Competing Values 0:17:29 Check Out: Jordan Harry's Ted Talk How To Read a Book a Day 0:19:54 Check Out: Matthew Norman's We're All Damaged 0:22:14 Topic Change: Preventing Burnout 0:24:19 Topic Change: Time Wasting Behavior 0:26:59 Topic Change: Flat Earth Society Check-In 0:29:14 Call to Action: Audit you Life and Create a Weekly Time Budget (168hr), Share your Tips and Tricks with Us!
35:36
June 26, 2019
#009 Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis | The Controversial Exchange
In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri ask some questions about the process for identifying Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis.  Links for Today 0:02:14 Topic: Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) 0:17:14 Check Out: The BACB's process on SME 2:17:14 Topic Change: The Gap between Academics and Practitioners 5:02:14 Topic Change: Subspecializations and the Certification Process 5:52:14 Check Out: The BACB's videos on Subspecialty Areas in Behavior Analysis 14:47:14 Topic Change: Gaining Subject Matter Expertise and being Deemed an SME 22:17:14 Call to Action: Learn, Discuss, and Share the info you have on SME! *Amazon links are affiliate links. No other links are affiliates unless disclosed in parentheses next to the link.
27:17
June 23, 2019
#008 Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | The Controversial Exchange
In this episode, Dimitri and Ryan discuss their personal experiences at ABAI and dive into a conversation about privilege and the culture in behavior analysis. Key Timestamps: 0:02:35 Topic Change: Dimitri's ABAI Reflections 0:03:20 Topic Change: Should BCBA's Avoid Controversial Discussions? 0:08:36 Check Out: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson 0:14:55 Topic Change: Ryan's ABAI Reflections 0:17:35 Check Out: The Daily BA's Hank Schlinger Video  0:19:55 Topic Change: Operationally Defining Privilege and Privilege in Behavior Analysis 0:22:15 For more information on Dimitri's examples Check Out: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari 0:31:35 Call to Listeners to Join this Discussion on Culture and Privilege  Support this effort through www.patreon.com/thedailyba
34:50
June 16, 2019
#007 Raw & Uncut | The Controversial Exchange
  In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri go raw and uncensored with a Facebook Live audience to talk about honesty in science, their favorite toilet paper, conference in behavior analysis, neurodiversity and more! Make sure to call in using the anchor app ->  https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange 
1:35:17
May 23, 2019
#006 Accomplishment Based Performance w/ Carl Binder | The Controversial Exchange
 In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Carl Binder to talk about accomplishment based performance and the field of behavior analysis.  0:00:00 - Introduction to the Episode! 0:01:37 Topic Change: Carl Binder's Introduction 0:01:58 Check Out Walden Two by B. F. Skinner 0:08:17 Check Out the Six Boxes Model 0:09:25 Topic Change: Accomplishment Based Learning Explained 0:10:10 Check Out The Eden Conspiracy: Educating for Accomplished Citizenship by Joe Harless 0:22:40 Topic Change: The Performance Chain and Outcomes/Outputs Explained 0:30:25 Topic Change: Variables Involved in Improving and Maintaining Human Performance 0:49:20 Topic Change: Money and Values in the field of ABA, Education, and Organizations 0:53:45 Check Out Integrating Organizational-Cultural Values With Performance Management by Carl Binder 0:57:50 Check Out Some Current Dimensions of Applied Behavior Analysis by Baer, Wolf, and Risley 0:59:20 Check Out The Right to Effective Education by Barett et al. 1:00:50 Check Out Behaviorism and Ethics by Vargas and Krapfl 1:15:15 Check Out the CHATTCon Conference coming up in July 2019 1:17:10 Check Out the Standard Celeration Society 1:18:40 Check Out Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari 1:21:10 Topic Change: Listener Questions about Fluency 1:31:15 Topic Change: Binder's Advice to Aspiring Entrepeneurs 1:34:17 Check Out Fit Learning 1:38:25 Check Out the Next Gen Revolution Summit coming up in 2019 1:40:35 Check Out The Blue Ocean Strategy by Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne 1:42:20 Check Out The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael Gerber
1:45:43
May 12, 2019
#005 Mental Health & Behavior Analysis w/ Tina Patterson | The Controversial Exchange
Support this podcast through www.patreon.com/thedailyba  In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Tina Patterson to talk about mental health and the field of behavior analysis. Timestamps Today (FULL LINKS FOR ALL HERE) 0:00:00 Topic: Mental Health and Autism  0:03:04 Check out: SAMHSA (The Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration) 0:05:09 Topic Change: The History and Current Status of ABA and Mental Health 0:05:52 Check out: The CDC report and statistics on Children and Mental Health 0:08:49 Check out: Why Behavior Analysts Should Study Emotion: The Example of Anxiety by Pat Friman, Steven Hayes, and Kelly Wilson 0:12:24 Check out: The research from the Center for the Developing Child at Harvard University 0:13:09 Check out: Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults. The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study by Felitti et al. 0:13:54 Check out: Neuroanatomy for Students of Behavioral Disorders by Ronald Green and Robyn Ostrander 0:14:09 Check out: Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst by Robert Sapolsky 0:14:24 Topic Change: Trauma, Psychiatric Disorders, and the Competence required to Treat 0:14:39 Check out: A sample quiz to get your ACEs score 0:14:44 Check out: A List of published study's related to ACE, chronic illness, and more 0:28:06 Check out: the Adverse Childhood Experiences Scale (ACEs) 0:29:02 Mentioned again: Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults. The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study by Felitti et al. 0:30:19 Check out: Information on the IISCA0:31:59 Mentioned again: The research from the Center for the Developing Child at Harvard University 0:32:14 Check out: NIH Child and Adolescent Mental Health 0:32:49 Check out: Psychological and Psychosocial Impairment in Preschoolers With Selective Eating by Zucker et al. 0:32:54 Topic Change: Medication and Treatment  0:35:39 Check out: Johns Hopkins Pharmacogenomic Testing 0:35:39 Check out: Mayo Clinic Drug-Gene Pharmacogenomics 0:42:19 Topic Change: Open-Ended Education, Resources, and Dissemination 0:44:44 Check out: https://practicalfunctionalassessment.com/ 0:48:44 Check out: "Clinician with a Mission" on Facebook 0:50:24 Topic Change: Training and Educating Practitioners and the BACB Task List 0:50:29 "Check out the following bullets on the BACB Task List: G-02: Consider biological/medical variables that may be affecting the client. G-05: Describe and explain behavior, including private events, in behavior-analytic (non- mentalistic) terms. G-07: Practice within one’s limits of professional competence in applied behavior analysis, and obtain consultation, supervision, and training, or make referrals as necessary." 0:54:12 Check out: Icing on the Cake: The Role of Research in Practitioner Training by Joshua Pritchard and Byron Wine 1:04:04 Matthew P. Normand and Carolynn S. Kohn Article 1:05:39 Topic Change: OBM, Entrepreneurship, and Financial Freedom 1:08:09 Check out: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael Gerber 1:23:34 Check out: Walden Two by B. F. Skinner
1:28:17
April 21, 2019
BONUS - Episode Highlights & Mini-Rants
Support this effort through www.patreon.com/thedailyba  Key Timestamps: 0:00:00 Introduction & How to Support 0:03:21 Topic Change - Coming up: The current state of EAB 0:07:14 Check out Episode 004 with Merrill Winston 0:14:10 "The Blue Books" by Israel Goldiamond 0:17:53 Topic Change - The market of Behavior Analysis and OBM 0:21:25 Check out these works by William Abernathy (one) and (two) 0:23:55 Check out the FIT OBM Certificate Program 0:24:00 Check out Carl Binder's Six Boxes Model 0:28:23 Topic Change - Dimitri and Ryan's advice on gaining experience in the field  0:42:10 Topic Change - Back to OBM, ABA, and Behavior Analysis 0:49:25 Topic Change - Coming up: Panel at ABAI about scientific communication 0:57:40 Topic Change - Coming up: The Behavior Analyst's Guide to Junk Science 0:59:00 "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan - Chapter: "The Balogna Detection Kit" 0:59:40 "Controversial Therapies in Autism and Intellectual Disabilities" by Richard Foxx and James Mulick  0:59:50 Check out Why We Do What We Do Episode 100 1:00:15 Topic Change - Self-Management, Mindfulness, and Meditation 1:05:00 "Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst" by Robert Sapolski  1:05:05 "Buddha's Brain: The Practical Neuroscience of Happiness, Love & Wisdom" by Rick Hanson, Alan Jones, and Richard Mendius 1:11:05 "Making Sense of Spirituality" by Steven Hayes  1:13:10 Topic Change - Coming Up: ABAI Practical Functional Analysis Symposium 1:15:25 Check out "IISCA Hanley Fisher Debate"  1:15:35 Check out Iwata's "Functional Analysis of Problem Behavior" 1:16:35 Topic Change - The importance of controversial conversations 1:21:25 Check out - Self-Care & Behavior Analysis (w/ Shane Spiker)
1:28:43
April 15, 2019
#004 Unethical & Unprofessional Behavior Analysts w/ Merrill Winston
0:02:08 Topic - Merrill and his background 0:03:35 Topic Change - "Professionalism" and "Ethical Bullying" 0:09:49 Check Out:  The disabled children locked up in cages By Chloe Hadjimatheou BBC World Service 0:10:33 Topic Change - Punishment Contingencies and "Pisser-Offer" Contingencies 0:14:20 Topic Change - Ethics and Levels of Right and Wrong 0:17:25 Check Out: Our Episode on Narrative 0:21:20 Topic Change - Rule-Governed Behavior and Automatic Thinking in Professionalism 0:25:50 Topic Change - Doctoral Programs 0:26:36 Topic Change - Addressing Listener's Questions 0:27:20 Listener Topic - "A Good Look for the Field"  0:30:05 Listener Topic - The Skinner Box Video 0:32:40 Listener Topic - Personal Aversion and Organizational and Cultural Factors 0:43:00 Topic Change - Ethical Guidelines for BCBAs and Other Fields 0:56:30 Check Out: Signs of Damage by Jack Michael  0:59:20 Check Out: Adventures In Special Education: A Practitioner's Guidebook to Understanding and Treating Problem Behaviors in Schools By Merrill Winston 1:02:15 Topic Change - Joining the Conversation (on Social Media) and Advice on Speaking Up 1:02:25 Check Out: Confessions of a Behavior Analyst Group on Facebook 1:15:35  Coming Soon! Live Q&A with Ryan, Dimitri, and Merril (GET NOTIFICATIONS!)
1:19:36
March 24, 2019
#003 Narrative in Science & Self-Management
What to Expect In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri talk about some of their perspectives on how narratives and science mesh, with an ending on some self-management practices.  Remember you can call in, ask questions, or provide your own commentary. All you have to do is download the free anchor app and call in: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange Key Timestamps 0:45 Ryan's welcome message begins 2:07 Dimitri chimes in for first time 8:42 Introduce Book "Houston We Have a Narrative" by Randy Olsen  13:48 Introduce Logic Book "Beginning Logic" by E. J. Lemon  15:18 Ryan begins to point out examples of narrative to listeners 17:08 Dimitri explains what he thinks Narrative is about  21:48 Ryan explains grad school perception  24:53     Golddiamond Blue Books brief spin-off  34:28 Talk about experience of going to conferences, cost, and networking 39:13 Started talking about research, academia, and entrepeneurship  45:55 Discuss David Goggins (Check out his Book) 52:58     Quantifiedself.com mentioned 57:40    Discussion around Self-Management Routines is Introduced 1:05:10 Mentioned book "Steal Like an Artist" by Austin Kleon  1:08:39 Ryan mentions feeling inspired to make a video about self-management  1:15:28 Gary Vee's "5 Minute Plea to Do" Video Mentioned 1:17:45 Book by Viktor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" introduced  1:24:44 Introduce "Let Me Hear Your Voice" by Catherine Maurice 1:25:30 Brief pause then summary of feelings of the episode 1:25:56 Discussion about plans, Ryan going to see Randy Olsen, workshops 1:26:35 Introduce "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell  1:26:59 Ryan chimes in with Wrap Up (comment, like, review, etc.) 1:27:43 Fun Fact and Patreon 1:29:35 Disclaimer Read 1:30:15 Sign-Off
1:31:41
March 17, 2019
#002 Do Behavior Analysts DESERVE to Branch Outside Autism? w/ Miranda Marie Drake
Support and Advertisement: https://www.patreon.com/thedailyba Call-In: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange #002 - Do Behavior Analysts Deserve to Branch Outisde Autism? This week we welcome on Miranda Marie Drake to talk about our history of autism treatment and whether our profession "deserves" to branch outside autism.  Links for Today: TCE on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecontroversialexchange/ TCE on Twitter: https://twitter.com/controversialex He Will Not Divide Us Capture the Flag: https://youtu.be/W6uGP8hHwrQ He Will Not Divide Us Capture the Flag: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/5ykwc3/shia_labeouf_hides_a_hewillnotdivideus_flag_in/ Foxx R. M. (1996). Translating the covenant: The behavior analyst as ambassador and translator. The Behavior analyst, 19(2), 147-61.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2733621/ Morris Email on Teaching Behavior Analysis Listserv re Principles of Behavior: https://listserv.uhd.edu/scripts/wa-uhdedu.exe?A2=ind1801&L=TBA-L&P=R169094 Critchfield, Thomas & J. Doepke, Karla & Epting, L & Becirevic, Amel & Reed, Derek & Fienup, Daniel & L. Kremsreiter, Jamie & L. Ecott, Cheryl. (2017). Normative Emotional Responses to Behavior Analysis Jargon or How Not to Use Words to Win Friends and Influence People. Behavior Analysis in Practice. 10. 97-106. 10.1007/s40617-016-0161-9.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28630814 Becirevic, Amel & Critchfield, Thomas & Reed, Derek. (2016). On the Social Acceptability of Behavior-Analytic Terms: Crowdsourced Comparisons of Lay and Technical Language. The Behavior Analyst. 39. 10.1007/s40614-016-0067-4.: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303712104_On_the_Social_Acceptability_of_Behavior-Analytic_Terms_Crowdsourced_Comparisons_of_Lay_and_Technical_Language Special Thanks: Miranda Marie Drake for submitting the idea and hopping on the show!
1:28:39
February 24, 2019
#001 - Standardization & Private Equity in Behavior Analysis w/ Rick Kubina
#001- Standardization & Private Equity in Behavior Analysis. In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Rick Kubina, Precision Teaching and ABA master to talk about Standardization in Science and Private Equity in ABA.  Catch us on Twitter @controversialex or Instagram @thecontroversialexchange and make sure to call in with your thoughts along the way! We're replying to everyone that calls in the first week after release!
1:22:24
January 27, 2019
#000 - Let’s Get This Party Started
RYANO and Dimitri explore the boundaries of the podcast, share their personal story with you, and lay the foundation for what’s to come.
1:23:12
January 20, 2019
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