The Defiant - DeFi Podcast

The Defiant - DeFi Podcast

By Camila Russo

The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
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The Defiant - DeFi PodcastMar 11, 2024
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AI Agents, Meme Coins, and a Better Future for Investing: Insights from Shaw Walters

AI Agents, Meme Coins, and a Better Future for Investing: Insights from Shaw Walters

Explore the cutting-edge intersection of AI, cryptocurrency, and startup culture in our latest episode. We spoke with Shaw Walters, Founder of Eliza Labs, about the exciting possibilities and challenges of AI agents in digital worlds, the crypto ecosystem, and token launches. Discover how these technologies are shaping a fairer, more inclusive future for investing and why real products and vision matter more than hype. 


Chapters:

00:00 Defiant introduction

00:07 Episode summary

00:54 Introduction to Shaw Walters and Eliza Labs

02:27 AI agents in digital worlds

10:56 Eliza as a framework for providing what GPT doesn’t

11:25 Writing actions for AI agents

14:10 Use cases for AI agents

14:55 Moving from one-on-one to group settings

16:33 Connecting Eliza to the crypto ecosystem

19:20 Pros and cons of AI agents in financial services

21:25 AI agents as an interface

24:53 auto.fun and launching AI agents

30:08 Fairer than fair token launch

31:58 A new age of investing in startups

32:32 The government does not trust you with your own money

34:33 Crypto workarounds for investing in startups

35:43 The Trump administration and our path to regulation

36:57 Changing laws around investing in startups

38:32 Decentralized AI and opening investment to the public

39:30 What will bring AI agents back to the forefront?

44:25 How to structure better launchpads for startups

46:00 Crypto markets in their current state are casinos

49:24 Jeffy Yu and Zerebro

53:36 Why the crypto culture needs to change

55:31 Real products and real vision

58:00 Closing remarks

May 16, 202558:47
The Fight for Digital Privacy Decentralized AI and the Future of Freedom with Patrick Amadon

The Fight for Digital Privacy Decentralized AI and the Future of Freedom with Patrick Amadon

This week, we spoke to Patrick Amadon about the complex intersections of digital privacy, surveillance, censorship, and the potential of decentralized AI. Amadon offers a critical perspective on some of the most pressing issues in technology, from the role of digital disobedience to the regulatory challenges surrounding cryptocurrency and artificial intelligence.

Key topics include: 

  • The potential of decentralized AI and Ethereum's pivotal role 

  • The impact of censorship on free speech in the digital era 

  • How AI and blockchain technology can empower individuals and artists 

  • Risks posed by centralized AI and the push for decentralization 

  • Strategies for protecting digital privacy and countering AI surveillance 

Amadon also examines how the framework for success in the digital age is shifting, emphasizing the importance of data ownership and financial independence. This conversation offers valuable insights for those interested in the evolving relationship between technology, freedom, and the pursuit of a decentralized future.


Chapters:

00:00 Defiant Intro

00:07 Decentralized AI is a win for Ethereum

01:30 Introduction to Patrick Amadon

02:08 Digital disobedience and decentralized ecosystems

04:10 Challenges in modern discourse

07:40 “No Rioters” and threats to free speech 

10:10 The place for disruption

12:00 The paths to success are changing

13:05 Crypto and data ownership

13:32 Meaningful AI Legislation

14:20 The race to AGI and why we need to beat China

16:48 Regulating crypto and AI

18:34 The failure of the stablecoin bill

22:08 “Passive Observer” and the role of the public in geopolitical events

27:50 Art as resistance to homogenizing the narrative

30:10 When crypto starts making sense to normies

30:55 The fight to decentralize AI

33:25 The risks of centralized AI

35:40 Our lack of digital security and privacy

37:32 Why should AI belong to the people?

38:00 AI’s effects on the job market

41:25 How to get under the hood of AI

45:00 AI lowers the barrier to entry for art, technology, and more

46:30 AI and the arts

49:20 The pros and cons of decentralization

50:32 Decentralized infrastructure, currency, and economy

52:15 The Pectra update

54:35 The power of owning your own currency

55:18 How will wallets as smart contracts affect artists?

55:40 The NFT art space only works as it imagines a new art world

58:00 Pectra and the future of meaningful technologies

58:55 A digital renaissance

01:00:58 Counter AI surveillance technology

01:05:00 Why is digital privacy so important?

01:12:15 VeilPNG and hiding data

01:13:20 Closing remarks

May 15, 202501:14:05
Beyond the Hype: Bitcoin, Inflation, and the Future of Crypto with Gus Grillasca

Beyond the Hype: Bitcoin, Inflation, and the Future of Crypto with Gus Grillasca

In today’s episode with cypherpunk and artist Gus Grillasca, we explore the intricate crossroads of cryptocurrency and global economics. From the propaganda of inflation to Bitcoin Ordinals and the NFT controversy, this episode challenges conventional narratives and opens up new perspectives. Hear Gus' insights on navigating the Ethereum ecosystem, the financialization of Bitcoin, and privacy coins in the digital age.


We also talk about the evolving role of crypto in Latin America, reflect on the surprising dynamics of meme coins, and uncover gaps in financial literacy that could shape the next chapter of blockchain adoption. Whether you’re captivated by the promise of stablecoins, intrigued by NFT permanence, or pondering crypto’s place in an unstable world, this episode offers thought-provoking insights and artistic freedom at its core.


INFLARE: https://scarce.city/goods/inflare 


Fierro Viejo: https://superrare.com/artwork/eth/0xb932a70A57673d89f4acfFBE830E8ed7f75Fb9e0/34374 


Chapters:

00:00 Defiant Intro

00:10 Inflation is bankers’ propaganda

00:50 Introduction to Gus Grillasca

01:38 Gus’ Journey into blockchain

02:35 Banking challenges for travelors

04:44 Rare Pepes, Ethereum NFTs, and Bitcoin Ordinals

07:44 Changing views on the Ethereum ecosystem

09:04 Bitcoin Ordinals, memes, and the NFT Controversy

10:30 Bitcoin Ordinals and NFT permanence

14:53 The controversy around updates to the Bitcoin protocol

16:28 “INFLARE” and The Space by Art of Freedom

17:25 Inflation as a monetary phenomenon

21:06 Global inflation, purchasing power, and the role of crypto in an unstable world

25:37 Is the financialization of Bitcoin good or bad for crypto?

27:25 Bitcoin Reserve and the Digital Asset Stockpile

30:36 Thoughts on $TRUMP and other meme coins

34:45 Changing expectations of investing in NFT

38:18 Crypto’s role in Latin America

45:35 “Fierro Viejo,” NFTs and intellectual property

50:00 A gap in financial literacy 

53:18 Ethereum’s changing roadmap

57:25 Privacy coins

59:40 The need for privacy in the digital age

01:03:05 Stablecoins, financial products, and exciting prospects in crypto 

01:05:56 Final Thoughts

May 09, 202501:06:33
Will Crypto ETFs Transform the Market? Expert Insights from Matt Hougan, Bitwise CIO

Will Crypto ETFs Transform the Market? Expert Insights from Matt Hougan, Bitwise CIO

Are crypto ETFs set to reshape the investing landscape? Join us on The Defiant as we dive deep into the future of crypto assets, the evolving regulatory environment, and the rise of index-based investing. Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise, shares his expert insights on what these changes mean for investors and how crypto ETFs could revolutionize access to digital assets. 


Chapters:

00:00 The Defiant Intro

00:10 Why tariffs could be bullish for Bitcoin 

00:41 Intro to Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise

01:35 The impact of U.S. interest rates on crypto markets 

04:00 Tariffs and their effects on crypto

08:24 How USD fluctuations affect global crypto trends 

10:15 Investor reactions to a weaker dollar

11:58 Bitcoin as a hedge against volatility

14:58 The role of traditional investors in driving Bitcoin’s price 

20:54 Regulatory insights and which assets stand to gain 

22:10 Crypto ETFs

24:50 What sets Bitwise apart in the crowded ETF space 

26:52 The rise (and slow start) of Ethereum ETFs

29:00 How will ETH staking play into demand?

30:21 How will an ETH staking fund be structured?

32:30 Top crypto assets to watch for the next wave of ETFs 

35:25 How index funds are influencing the future of crypto investing 

36:50 Crypto native investors

38:38 Index funds and the SEC

40:11 Ethereum’s coming of age and shifting goals

43:45 What can get 1000x users on Ethereum?

46:28 Ethereum vs. Solana and the next big trends 

48:31 Where and how different blockchains thrive

51:30 Predictions for 2025

53:10 Closing Remarks

May 07, 202554:02
Insights on DePIN, Web3 Policy, and More | Amira Valliana from Solana Foundation

Insights on DePIN, Web3 Policy, and More | Amira Valliana from Solana Foundation

Immerse yourself in the future of decentralized infrastructure in this exclusive interview with Amira Valliana from the Solana Foundation. Perfect for Web3 enthusiasts, this episode unpacks how onchain solutions are redefining physical networks, policy, and global collaboration.

Chapters & Key Topics: 

  • 00:00 Introduction to decentralized infrastructure onchain 

  • 00:33 Podcast & guest welcome 

  • 03:16 Amira Valliana’s policy work at Solana Foundation 

  • 09:19 Shaping blockchain policy and its real-world impact 

  • 12:31 What is DePIN? (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks) 

  • 15:25 Case Study spotlight: Geonet 

  • 18:19 Current tech limits for onchain assets 

  • 20:21 Experiments in tracking real-world objects via blockchain 

  • 22:00 Supply chain challenges and onchain opportunities 

  • 24:08 Using crypto to coordinate worldwide networks 

  • 25:38 Helium Network deep-dive 

  • 29:00 Future applications for Helium 

  • 31:05 Exploring Hivemapper 

  • 34:15 Bridging DePIN and AI innovation 

  • 38:27 Decentralized AI and infrastructure synergy 

  • 42:32 Macro trends (interest rates, tariffs, resources, and more) and their effect 

  • 45:43 What’s next for decentralized physical infrastructure?

If you’re curious about DePIN, policy in Web3, or the next wave of decentralized AI, you’ll get actionable insights and real-world examples to fuel your curiosity. 

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Apr 24, 202550:28
Dive Into Lending, Borrowing, and Real World Assets with Maple Finance: Sid Powell

Dive Into Lending, Borrowing, and Real World Assets with Maple Finance: Sid Powell

Lending and borrowing onchain has quickly become one of the most dynamic and fastest-growing sectors in Decentralized Finance (DeFi). Among the leaders in this space is Maple Finance, a platform that has already facilitated over $800M in assets, showcasing the growing adoption and practicality of tokenized private credit for institutions. By bridging the gap between traditional finance and decentralized systems, Maple Finance is demonstrating how institutions can leverage blockchain technology for more efficient and transparent lending solutions.

In an insightful conversation, Camila Russo sat down with Maple Finance’s CEO, Sid Powell, to delve into the potential of real-world assets (RWAs) within DeFi, the evolving role of stablecoins in this ecosystem, and strategies to unlock new lending markets onchain. Their discussion highlights the rapid innovations taking place in the DeFi space and sheds light on the future of decentralized credit markets.


Apr 16, 202557:56
Bringing Intellectual Property Onchain with Story Protocol | Jason Zhao

Bringing Intellectual Property Onchain with Story Protocol | Jason Zhao

Explore the future of intellectual property on the blockchain in this insightful interview with Jason Zhao. Discover how Story Protocol is revolutionizing the way creators protect, share, and license their work. By bringing IP and copyright onchain, the protocol streamlines the process, ensures compliance with state and national laws, and secures rights in an innovative, transparent manner. Perfect for Web3 creators and blockchain developers ready to push boundaries and unlock new possibilities.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro: Jason Zhao, Co-founder and Chief Protocol Officer at Story Protocol 

00:45 - How Story Protocol is revolutionizing IP management on blockchain 

01:16 - Case study: Acquiring Justin Bieber's "Peaches" song rights 

02:34 - The vision: Making IP as programmable as stablecoins 

05:15 - Jason's background: From AI at DeepMind to blockchain 

08:58 - Story's technical architecture: Custom Layer 1 blockchain 

11:13 - Proof of Creativity Protocol explained 

13:15 - Storing full IP rights and metadata (beyond NFTs) 

18:47 - Legal framework and enforceable IP licenses 

21:36 - Mainstream IP vs. native Story Protocol IP 

24:07 - DeFi integration: Royalties and liquid IP markets 

27:31 - How creators monetize their work on Story 

29:50 - Tokenomics and the Big Bang staking event 

33:51 - Roadmap: IP Portal and future upgrades 

37:23 - David Goyer (Dark Knight trilogy) launching new IP on Story 

38:28 - Fraud prevention and attestation services 

45:02 - Staking mechanics and validator system 

49:08 - Meme coins and IP-backed tokens 

54:20 - The long-term vision: "HTTP for IP"

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Apr 01, 202554:57
How Coinbase is Bridging Bitcoin to DeFi with New OnChain Lending | Will Robinson, VP of Engineering

How Coinbase is Bridging Bitcoin to DeFi with New OnChain Lending | Will Robinson, VP of Engineering

Will Robinson, VP of Engineering at Coinbase, explores the company’s expanding role in decentralized finance (DeFi), highlighting the launch of Bitcoin-backed USDC loans through Morpho and Coinbase’s broader efforts to integrate DeFi solutions. He explains how Coinbase is working to connect centralized finance (CeFi) with DeFi by incorporating decentralized protocols while prioritizing security and regulatory compliance. Robinson also discusses the introduction of cbBTC as an alternative to WBTC, the company’s approach to multi-chain development, and its plans for further DeFi integrations. Additionally, he addresses ongoing debates about Ethereum Layer 2 networks and their impact on the main chain, emphasizing the importance of improved cross-chain interoperability. He also provides insights into Coinbase’s asset listing process, the role of meme coins in the crypto ecosystem, and the company’s broader mission to support a more open and accessible financial system.


Chapters

00:00 - Intro: Will Robinson, VP of Engineering at Coinbase

00:45 - Coinbase’s expanding role in DeFi

01:16 - Bitcoin-backed USDC loans powered by Morpho

02:34 - How Coinbase enables BTC holders to access liquidity

05:15 - Risks involved in Bitcoin-backed loans

08:58 - Liquidation risks and loan-to-value ratios

11:13 - Early demand and adoption of the product

13:15 - cbBTC vs. WBTC: Why Coinbase launched its own Bitcoin wrapper

18:47 - How cbBTC is issued and traded

21:36 - Coinbase’s approach to self-custody and wallets

24:07 - The role of Coinbase Wallet in bridging CeFi and DeFi

27:31 - Coinbase’s long-term DeFi strategy and future integrations

29:50 - Will DeFi become a mainstream part of traditional finance?

33:51 - Coinbase’s evolution from exchange to financial institution

34:34 - The rise of Base: How Coinbase grew its Layer 2

38:28 - Are Layer 2s parasitic to Ethereum?

49:08 - The role of meme coins in crypto and Coinbase’s listing process

54:20 - The future of on-chain finance and economic freedom


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Feb 24, 202558:32
Bill Barhydt: The Next Altcoin Season, $350K Bitcoin & The Future of DeFi Banking

Bill Barhydt: The Next Altcoin Season, $350K Bitcoin & The Future of DeFi Banking

Bill Barhydt, Founder and CEO of Abra, discusses the evolving landscape of cryptocurrency markets and investment strategies in this week's The Defiant Podcast. He attributes Bitcoin’s price movements to macroeconomic factors, including U.S. monetary policy and liquidity cycles, and notes a growing trend of companies holding Bitcoin on their balance sheets. Barhydt also examines Ethereum’s scalability challenges and the increasing role of DeFi in financial systems, suggesting that decentralized infrastructure could eventually become the standard for banking. Additionally, he expresses optimism about potential regulatory clarity in the U.S., particularly regarding stablecoins and digital asset classifications.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction: Bill Barhydt & Abra

00:48 - Barhydt’s Background in Crypto & Finance

02:23 - How Abra Manages Crypto Wealth

05:45 - Bitcoin Loans & Prime Brokerage Explained

10:10 - Crypto Market Volatility & Macroeconomic Factors

13:24 - Bitcoin Dominance & Altcoin Cycles

18:11 - Solana vs. Ethereum: Market Trends & Adoption

24:29 - U.S. Crypto Regulations & Policy Predictions

36:05 - Trump’s Crypto Involvement

39:04 - Institutional Interest in Bitcoin & ETFs

50:18 - The Future of DeFi & Traditional Banking

52:14 - Barhydt’s Price Predictions

54:12 - Final Thoughts & Closing Remarks


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Feb 17, 202555:07
Kain Warwick on Infinex, Synthetix, and the Future of DeFi UX and Stability

Kain Warwick on Infinex, Synthetix, and the Future of DeFi UX and Stability

Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix and Infinex, discusses the evolution of DeFi and the trade-offs required to improve user experience while maintaining decentralization. He explains how Infinex aims to offer a more accessible, centralized exchange-like interface while remaining non-custodial, addressing long-standing UX challenges in DeFi. Warwick also reflects on Synthetix’s recent governance restructuring, competition from Hyperliquid, and the potential shift back to a stablecoin-focused model. Looking ahead, he highlights the importance of regulatory clarity, improved infrastructure, and greater accessibility in driving the next phase of DeFi growth.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to Kain Warwick

00:15 - Kain’s history in DeFi

01:26 - Motivation behind Infinex and staying in crypto

02:21 - Challenges of bull and bear markets

05:55 - The idea behind Infinex and UX innovation

08:40 - Trade-offs in building a user-friendly DeFi platform

17:05 - Passkeys and the seamless user experience

24:26 - Adoption metrics and user growth

26:51 - Future roadmap: Bitcoin, XRP, and Doge integration

33:08 - The Patron NFT sale: Lessons learned

37:19 - Synthetix updates: Governance and structural changes

39:27 - The role of attention in crypto success

47:50 - Synthetix’s stablecoin pivot and liquidity strategy

51:14 - Differentiating Synthetix’s stablecoin from others

54:03 - Avoiding the pitfalls of past algo stablecoins


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Feb 11, 202501:10:21
Court Overturns Tornado Cash Sanctions: What’s Next for Privacy? Preston Van Loon, Ethereum Core Dev

Court Overturns Tornado Cash Sanctions: What’s Next for Privacy? Preston Van Loon, Ethereum Core Dev

Preston Van Loon, an Ethereum core developer, joins The Defiant Podcast this week to discuss his role as a plaintiff in the high-profile Tornado Cash lawsuit against the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). He described how the sanctions imposed on Tornado Cash impacted legitimate users seeking privacy on Ethereum and underscored the significance of a recent appellate court ruling questioning whether smart contracts qualify as “property” under U.S. sanctions law. Van Loon also noted the possibility of a friendlier regulatory environment in the United States, suggesting that changing policy stances could spur crypto innovation. Finally, he addressed ongoing discussions within the Ethereum community about development priorities, governance structures, and the challenges of maintaining a decentralized protocol as the ecosystem grows.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Background

01:15 - What is Tornado Cash?

04:00 - Why Tornado Cash Was Sanctioned

06:45 - Filing the Lawsuit

09:50 - Court Ruling and Implications

14:00 - Next Steps in the Legal Case

18:00 - Privacy Rights and Crypto

24:00 - Impact on Builders and Industry

34:00 - Ethereum's Role and Future Challenges

50:00 - Community Feedback and Leadership

55:00 - Closing Remarks


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Jan 27, 202556:38
Sam Kazemian on FraxUSD and the Future of Stablecoins in Decentralized Finance

Sam Kazemian on FraxUSD and the Future of Stablecoins in Decentralized Finance

Sam Kazemian, founder of Frax Finance, outlined the development and goals of FraxUSD, a decentralized stablecoin designed to integrate with both traditional finance and decentralized ecosystems. The upgraded FraxUSD offers redeemability through custodians like BlackRock and SuperState while providing competitive yields through diversified strategies. Kazemian described Frax’s broader vision as building a digital economy anchored by its flagship stablecoin and Fraxstool, a high-performance Ethereum Layer 2.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction

00:48 - Founding Story and Differentiation of Frax

02:01 - Vision for Decentralized Stablecoins

02:41 - Features of FraxUSD

08:51 - Best of Both Worlds Design for FraxUSD

13:08 - Future of Stablecoins

23:05 - Yield Strategy of FraxUSD

34:16 - FraxUSD in Real World and On-Chain Usage

42:02 - Stablecoins as the Gateway to Crypto

47:12 - Roadmap and Future of Frax


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Jan 20, 202554:34
Magic Eden’s Vision: On-Chain Trading, $ME Token, and the Next Airdrop | Zhuoxun Yin, Co-Founder

Magic Eden’s Vision: On-Chain Trading, $ME Token, and the Next Airdrop | Zhuoxun Yin, Co-Founder

Zhouxun Yin, the Co-Founder of Magic Eden, joins The Defiant Podcast to discuss the evolution of one of the largest NFT marketplaces. In this episode, he shares the story behind Magic Eden’s founding, their decision to focus on Solana early on, and their multi-chain expansion strategy. Z dives into the challenges of navigating the bear market, enforcing royalties, and launching a token to unite their ecosystem. He also explores the future of NFTs, their integration with AI, and Magic Eden's ambitious shift toward becoming an all-encompassing on-chain trading platform.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction

00:30 - Founding Magic Eden

03:40 - Surviving FTX and Solana’s Challenges

07:20 - Navigating the NFT Bear Market

12:00 - The Bitcoin Ordinals Bet

16:00 - Multi-Chain Expansion

24:30 - Launching the $ME Token

32:00 - Addressing Airdrop Challenges

46:50 - The Royalty Debate

54:10 - Long-Term Vision for NFTs

01:03:00 - On-Chain Trading and Future Goals

01:10:35 - Closing Thoughts


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Jan 13, 202501:12:40
Scroll's Path Forward Amid Airdrop Controversy: Sandy Peng on the Scroll Open Initiative

Scroll's Path Forward Amid Airdrop Controversy: Sandy Peng on the Scroll Open Initiative

Sandy Peng, co-founder of Scroll, tells us the journey of building one of the most anticipated Ethereum Layer 2s, their focus on ZK rollups for scalability, and the unique value proposition of high security, decentralization, and low costs. Sandy discusses Scroll's transition from general purpose chain design to supporting specific use cases driven by ecosystem builders and founders. They explore challenges and lessons from Scroll's recent token airdrop, emphasizing the importance of clear communication, equitable distribution, and fostering a vibrant community. Sandy highlights the Scroll Open initiative and their long-term vision to create a thriving "city" for innovation and talent in the blockchain space.


Chapters

00:00 - Sandy Peng on Scroll's Rise

00:30 - Scroll’s Evolution and 2025 Vision

01:30 - The Founding Story of Scroll

02:30 - Why ZK Rollups?

04:00 - Scroll's Unique Edge in the L2 Space

07:00 - Transition to Use Case-Specific Chains

09:00 - Scroll's Vision for Builders and Founders

11:00 - Sub-Cent Costs and High Security Explained

15:00 - Decentralization: Scroll’s Progress and Plans

20:00 - Governance and the Role of Scroll Tokens

25:00 - Airdrop Lessons and Community Feedback

35:00 - Reflections on Token Distribution Trends

46:00 - Layer 2s and Ethereum’s Value Narrative

50:00 - Scroll Open: Building the Future Economy

58:00 - Scroll's Big Picture Vision


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Jan 06, 202501:03:57
Robinhood Crypto's Roadmap: Johann Kerbrat on Expansion, Staking, and Blockchain Integration

Robinhood Crypto's Roadmap: Johann Kerbrat on Expansion, Staking, and Blockchain Integration

Johann Kerbrat is the Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, leading the charge in bringing crypto to millions of retail investors. In this episode, Johann shares the journey of Robinhood Crypto, from its early days of launching in 2018 to its recent innovations, including staking, self-custody wallets, and a potential shift towards a full-fledged crypto exchange. He discusses how Robinhood is leveraging blockchain to enhance efficiency, lower costs, and expand access to financial instruments.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction

00:14 - History of Robinhood Crypto

01:23 - Why Robinhood Added Crypto

02:42 - Robinhood's Perspective on Crypto

07:12 - How Robinhood Monetizes Crypto

12:31 - Competing with Crypto Exchanges

14:22 - Token Listing Strategy

16:53 - Balancing Features and Asset Expansion

18:17 - Staking in the EU and Regulatory Concerns

21:22 - Staking Demand and Customer Education

24:08 - Robinhood Wallet Features

27:23 - Self-Custody Wallet Metrics

28:49 - Meme Stock Frenzy and Decentralized Trading

31:42 - Blockchain for Settlement and Efficiency

39:08 - Marketplace vs. Exchange Transition

41:49 - Upcoming Milestones for Robinhood Crypto

43:19 - Market Trends and Future Vision

44:49 - Long-Term Vision for Robinhood Crypto

46:00 - Closing Remarks


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Dec 12, 202446:26
How Lido is Making ETH Staking Easier and More Decentralized | Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking

How Lido is Making ETH Staking Easier and More Decentralized | Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking

In this episode, Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking Lead at Lido, discusses the protocol’s efforts to enhance decentralization and accessibility in Ethereum staking. He explains the launch of the Community Staking Module, which lowers barriers for individual validators while addressing concerns about centralization within the Ethereum ecosystem. The conversation also explores potential impacts of proposed Ethereum staking changes and Lido’s roadmap for further decentralization in 2025. Tune in to gain insights into the evolving landscape of liquid staking and its role in securing Ethereum.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction

00:14 - What is Lido and Liquid Staking?

02:20 - Liquid Staking Use Cases in DeFi

05:33 - Addressing Centralization Concerns in Lido

08:25 - Community Staking Module: Decentralization Efforts

10:49 - Requirements to Become a Home Validator

13:26 - Rewards and Entry Barriers for Home Validators

16:12 - Hardware Setup for Validators

23:39 - Socialized Rewards and Offline Allowances

26:38 - Higher Rewards for Running a Node

34:23 - Impact of CSM on Lido’s Decentralization

41:13 - Ethereum Security and the Importance of Decentralization

52:19 - Ethereum Issuance Proposal: Implications for Lido

01:06:07 - Future Developments for Lido in 2025


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Dec 02, 202401:10:55
Deep Dive into Ethereum's Beam Chain: Exclusive Insights with Researcher Justin Drake

Deep Dive into Ethereum's Beam Chain: Exclusive Insights with Researcher Justin Drake

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake dives deep into the Beam Chain proposal, a transformative upgrade aimed at accelerating Ethereum’s roadmap and enhancing its consensus layer. Justin explains how the Beam Chain would incorporate key innovations like SNARK proofs, quantum security, and single-slot finality to boost decentralization, security, and scalability. He also discusses incremental upgrades like staking caps and pre-confirmations, which aim to improve Ethereum’s performance and user experience in the near term. The conversation explores Ethereum’s competition with Solana and Bitcoin, highlighting how Ethereum’s long-term focus on robustness and scalability positions it to thrive as the foundational layer for the decentralized internet.


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction: Justin Drake

01:03 - What is the Beam Chain?

02:41 - Why Ethereum Needs Acceleration

05:06 - Lessons from the Merge for the Beam Chain

07:06 - Solving Ethereum’s Technical Debt

15:58 - Faster Confirmation Times

18:11 - Pre-confirmations in Ethereum

24:14 - Layer 1 and Layer 2 Pre-confirmations

30:41 - Big Ticket Changes in the Beam Chain

31:04 - Snarkification of Consensus Layer

33:31 - Single Slot Finality

39:00 - Trustless Bridges Between Blockchains

49:00 - Native Rollups and Execution Sharding

54:04 - Ethereum vs. Solana on Performance

01:10:00 - Near-Term Upgrades to Watch For


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Nov 25, 202401:14:55
"‘By 2025, Ethereum Will Feel Like One Unified Network" | Hart Lambur

"‘By 2025, Ethereum Will Feel Like One Unified Network" | Hart Lambur

Hart Lambur, co-founder of Across Protocol and UMA, discusses Across’s mission to enable fast, low-cost asset transfers between Ethereum layer twos, with a focus on creating a seamless user experience. He explains how the protocol’s “intent architecture” leverages third-party solvers to improve cross-chain interactions, offering a cohesive way for users to transfer assets and execute transactions across different Ethereum networks. Lambur also emphasizes the importance of Ethereum’s upcoming account abstraction upgrades in achieving a unified ecosystem, allowing actions on any Ethereum chain from a single wallet. He envisions a future by 2025 where Ethereum feels like a unified network, improving user experience significantly.


Chapters

00:04 - Introduction to Hart Lambur

00:14 - Hart’s Background and Motivation for Building Across Protocol

00:50 - Integration with Uniswap

10:34 - Challenges in Ethereum Interoperability and Gas Fees

12:03 - Ethereum’s Scalability Achievements and New Issues

18:04 - Account Abstraction: ERC-7702 and Its Role in Ethereum

27:02 - Intents Architecture

41:00 - Current User Experience Issues in Ethereum and Solutions

52:32 - Hart’s Vision for Ethereum as a Unified Network by 2025

57:08 - Closing Thoughts on Ethereum’s Future and Overcoming Fragmentation


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Nov 04, 202401:01:31
ZKsync 3.0: Elastic Chain and the Future of Scalable Web3 with Matter Labs’ Nana Murugesan

ZKsync 3.0: Elastic Chain and the Future of Scalable Web3 with Matter Labs’ Nana Murugesan

Nana Murugesan, President of Matter Labs and former VP of Business Development at Coinbase, joins Camila Russo in this week’s podcast to discuss the latest updates from ZKsync, including the recently launched Elastic Chain. He explains how ZKsync’s approach to interoperability and customization aims to make Web3 infrastructure as seamless as Web2, emphasizing the importance of user-friendly experiences for mainstream adoption. Nana also highlights Matter Labs' partnership with Buenos Aires to bring ZK-backed digital identity to millions of citizens, showcasing a promising model for government and Web3 collaboration. Finally, he shares upcoming milestones for ZKsync, with new chains and collaborations in Latin America, gaming, and the creator economy.


Chapters

0:00 - Introduction

0:17 - ZKsync and Elastic Chain

2:57 - Evolution of ZKsync

5:22 - Interoperability and Customizability in Web3

7:30 - User Experience

10:16 - The Role of Governments in Blockchain Adoption

14:41 - Digital Identity on the Blockchain

17:18 - Why Zero-Knowledge Proofs Matter

21:02 - Cost and Throughput Advantage of ZKsync

25:07 - UX and Interoperability Challenges

27:05 - ZKsync in Latin America

30:05 - Upcoming Projects on Elastic Chain

32:39 - Future Focus for Matter Labs

33:46 - Closing Remarks


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Oct 28, 202434:37
From Rock Bottom to Success: How Bitcoin Saved Dylan Kawalec's Life

From Rock Bottom to Success: How Bitcoin Saved Dylan Kawalec's Life

In this week’s podcast, Dylan Kawalec, Head of Developer Relations at Goat Network, discusses the Goat Founders Club, which is a new initiative aimed at empowering developers and entrepreneurs to build on the Bitcoin Layer 2 ecosystem. He explains how the program incentivizes builders through a unique points reward system that can be converted into tokens, fostering a more developer-centric community. Dylan also dives into the technical aspects of the Goat Network, including its decentralized sequencer model and use of zero-knowledge rollups, to enhance Bitcoin's scalability and interoperability. Lastly, he shares his personal story of how Bitcoin transformed his life, highlighting his unwavering passion and optimism for the future of the network.


Chapters

00:00 - Dylan Kawalec and GOAT Network

00:16 - What is the GOAT Founders Club?

03:46 - About GOAT Network: Bitcoin Layer 2 Overview

05:12 - Differentiation from Other Layer 2s

07:00 - Founders Club Tracks for Developers

11:03 - Governance Token: Future Role of GOAT Token

12:28 - Role of Bitcoin on GOAT Network

15:07 - Sequencer Model and Bridging to Other Chains

21:00 - Dylan’s Personal Bitcoin Story

24:56 - Inspiration Behind Founders Club

42:11 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts


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Oct 21, 202441:57
Why Sui is Skyrocketing: Price Surge & Growing Ecosystem | Adeniyi Abiodun, Mysten Labs

Why Sui is Skyrocketing: Price Surge & Growing Ecosystem | Adeniyi Abiodun, Mysten Labs

Adeniyi Abiodun is the co-founder of Mysten Labs and a major contributor to the Sui blockchain. In this week’s podcast, he discusses Sui's unique positioning as a "global coordination layer for the internet," emphasizing its decentralized nature and its technical advancements such as parallel execution and the use of the Move programming language. He highlights the expertise of the team behind Sui, their focus on scalability, and the potential for Sui to revolutionize payments and digital asset ownership. Abiodun also addresses challenges like decentralization concerns and outlines future growth areas, including gaming and DeFi.


Chapters

0:00 - Introduction with Adeniyi Abiodun, Co-founder of Mysten Labs

0:42 - What is Sui and how it's different from other L1s

1:50 - Addressing the centralization problem of the internet

3:52 - Scalability and throughput advantages of Sui

5:24 - How Sui solves scalability and throughput challenges

7:31 - Move language: A better approach for Web3 development

10:33 - Object-based model vs account-based model in blockchains

16:00 - Sui token's recent price surge and adoption trends

19:16 - Native USDC launch and its impact on DeFi growth

22:11 - Sui's low latency and fast transaction speeds

33:19 - Expanding Web3 adoption and onboarding billions of users

45:37 - Sui’s vision for the future


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Oct 14, 202448:57
Democratic Candidate John Avlon on Depolarizing Crypto Regulation and Building Bipartisan Support

Democratic Candidate John Avlon on Depolarizing Crypto Regulation and Building Bipartisan Support

John Avlon is a congressional candidate for New York, advocating for bipartisan support of emerging technologies like cryptocurrency. In this week's podcast, John emphasizes the need for clear and reasonable regulation to foster innovation without stifling it, while warning against making technology a partisan issue. Avlon critiques the current regulatory landscape, including the approach of figures like Gary Gensler, and highlights the potential risks of pushing innovation overseas. He advocates for Democrats to embrace technology as a key driver of U.S. competitiveness, underscoring that this election will shape the trajectory of the nation's future.


Chapters

0:00 Intro to John Avlon

1:02 Pivotal Moment For Crypto

3:50 US Crypto Policy

8:40 Regulatory Framework

17:40 Trust In Kamala Harris

26:30 Crypto Lobby

31:21 Balance In Regulation

44:05 John Avlon's Bags

47:12 Threat To Democracy


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Oct 08, 202451:41
Building The Web3 Super App: Jack Booth on TON's Path to Global Crypto Adoption

Building The Web3 Super App: Jack Booth on TON's Path to Global Crypto Adoption

Jack Booth is the co-founder of TON Society, a grassroots initiative driving community engagement in the Ton blockchain ecosystem, closely integrated with the Telegram messaging app. Booth explained how TON is evolving as a Web3 super app, bringing decentralized applications and financial tools to a global audience. He discussed the ecosystem’s unique structure, built on Telegram’s open mini-apps platform, enabling users to seamlessly access crypto services. Booth also emphasized TON's vision of onboarding millions of new users into crypto by creating simple, user-friendly applications and fostering mass adoption outside the U.S.


00:00 - Introduction & TON's Relationship with Telegram

02:35 - TON's Vision for Web3 & Telegram Mini Apps

05:15 - The History of TON and Regulatory Challenges

07:22 - Telegram Integrates TON Wallet

09:56 - TON’s Focus on Emerging Markets

13:07 - TON Society & Community Building

17:30 - TON Blockchain's Sharding Model

21:11 - Scaling Challenges

24:20 - TON’s Deflationary Potential

29:25 - Pavel Durov's Arrest & Impact on TON

39:31 - Power of Telegram's Announcement Channels

44:01 - Centralization vs. Decentralization in TON

49:01 - TON as a Web3 Super App

53:19 - Tap-to-Earn Apps & Airdrops


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Oct 01, 202401:08:32
Redefining DeFi Lending: How Morpho Gives Users Control and Customization | Paul Frambot, Co-Founder

Redefining DeFi Lending: How Morpho Gives Users Control and Customization | Paul Frambot, Co-Founder

Paul Frambot, co-founder and CEO of Morpho Labs, explains how Morpho is a decentralized and permissionless lending protocol that allows users to create customized lending and borrowing pools. Unlike traditional DeFi platforms like Aave, Morpho externalizes risk management, giving users control over their risk exposure and liquidity. Frambot shares how Morpho started as a rate-optimizing solution and evolved into Morpho Blue, a more scalable protocol with over $1 billion in deposits. He discusses the advantages of building in Europe, Morpho's vision to make financial infrastructure a public good, and how fintech partnerships could drive future DeFi adoption. We also touch on Morpho's upcoming token launch and its long-term strategy to compete with other major DeFi protocols.


0:00 - Intro to Paul Frambot

0:30 - What is Morpho and How it Differs from Competitors

2:00 - Paul's Background and Entry into DeFi

3:30 - Early Development of Morpho Optimizer

5:00 - Transition to Morpho Blue and Permissionless Lending

8:00 - Managing Risk, Liquidity, and Customization

11:00 - Real-World Assets and New Use Cases in DeFi

14:00 - Challenges and Advantages of Building in Europe

18:00 - Morpho's Long-Term Vision: Financial Infrastructure as a Public Good

23:00 - Future of DeFi: Fintech Integration and Token Launch

28:00 - Competition with Aave and Growth Strategy

33:00 - The Role of Fintech in Scaling DeFi

38:00 - Long-Term Vision for DeFi and Fintech

43:00 - Morpho's Upcoming Tokenomics and Governance

48:00 - Future Trends and Adoption in DeFi

52:00 - Closing Thoughts and Paul's Outlook on DeFi


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Sep 24, 202455:01
Building the Future of Ethereum: Joe Lubin on Consensys, Layer 2 Scaling, and Regulatory Challenges

Building the Future of Ethereum: Joe Lubin on Consensys, Layer 2 Scaling, and Regulatory Challenges

Joe Lubin, co-founder of Ethereum and Consensys, explores the evolution of blockchain technology and the expanding role of the Ethereum ecosystem in this episode. He discusses Consensys' pivotal work in building foundational infrastructure, such as MetaMask and Infura, while outlining the strategic direction for future applications and decentralized technologies. Joe delves into Layer 2 solutions, regulatory challenges with the SEC, and the broader implications for the industry. He offers a forward-looking perspective on the maturation of Ethereum, emphasizing scalability, decentralization, and the development of Web3.


0:00 - Evolution of Consensys

3:00 - Growth of Ethereum Infrastructure

6:30 - Scaling Ethereum & Layer 2 Solutions

9:00 - Joe Lubin's Beliefs

11:00 - Regulatory Challenges & SEC Lawsuit

14:30 - Future of Ethereum & Regulation

18:00 - Decentralizing Consensys and Network States

21:30 - Ethereum's Layer 1 & Layer 2 Architecture

28:00 - Impact of Layer 2 on Ethereum Mainnet

36:00 - Transitioning Products to On-chain Governance

39:00 - Network States and Decentralization

43:00 - Preparing for the Next Wave of Applications


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Sep 16, 202447:51
Aerodrome Finance: Redefining AMMs on Base with Alexander Cutler

Aerodrome Finance: Redefining AMMs on Base with Alexander Cutler

Alex Cutler, Co-Founder of Aerodrome, shares the story behind Aerodrome, a decentralized exchange (DEX) built on Base, an Ethereum Layer 2 ecosystem. He explains how Aerodrome incorporates the best features from existing DEXs, such as Uniswap and Curve, to create a more efficient, unified platform for liquidity providers, traders, and token holders. Cutler emphasizes the strategic choice to focus on Ethereum L2s, predicting their growth as faster, cheaper alternatives to Layer 1 while maintaining Ethereum's ecosystem benefits. He also highlights Aerodrome's tokenomics, where protocol revenue is fully redistributed to participants who lock tokens and vote to direct emissions.


00:00 - Aerodrome Founding Story

03:26 - The Move to Layer 2 and Partnership with Coinbase

05:22 - Layer 2s vs Layer 1s

11:01 - Combining the Best Features from DEX Models

14:07 - Improving Tokenomics and Incentivization

20:22 - Revenue Distribution and Protocol Emissions

41:05 - Base’s Exponential Growth and Long-Term Vision

45:47 - Coinbase’s Role in Building the Future of Decentralization

58:00 - The Role of DEXs and the Coming Use Cases for On-Chain Activity


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Sep 09, 202401:03:34
Latin America's Crypto Revolution | Ripio Co-Founder, Sebastian Serrano

Latin America's Crypto Revolution | Ripio Co-Founder, Sebastian Serrano

Sebastian Serrano is the Co-Founder and CEO of Ripio, one of the largest crypto asset platforms in Latin America. In this episode, Sebastian discusses Ripio's evolution from a retail wallet to a comprehensive crypto platform that includes an exchange, OTC desk, and B2B services. Serrano also highlights Ripio's strategic partnerships with major companies in the region and the development of a stablecoin for Mercado Libre. He shares his insights on the future of crypto adoption in Latin America, emphasizing the potential of tokenization and real-world assets.


0:00 Ripio.com

2:56 Sebastian Serrano

6:41 Retail to B2B

14:21 Latin America

28:54 Argentina As A Crypto Hub

35:45 Future Outlook


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Sep 02, 202443:53
Sustainable BTC Yield on Bitcoin | Dr. Redouane Elkamhi Discusses GOAT Network

Sustainable BTC Yield on Bitcoin | Dr. Redouane Elkamhi Discusses GOAT Network

Redouane Elkamhi is the Economics Lead at GOAT Network, a project focused on developing a decentralized financial market on Bitcoin. In this episode, we discuss the project's goals, including the creation of a Bitcoin-based Layer 2 ecosystem with a focus on sustainable yield, decentralized sequencers, and economic incentives. Elkamhi outlines the potential impact of GOAT Network on Bitcoin's future and its approach to yield generation.


0:00 GOAT Network

7:02 Building on Bitcoin

20:25 Earning Yield

33:30 Tokenomics

39:52 Getting Involved

41:36 Future of GOAT and Bitcoin L2s


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Aug 27, 202451:12
Behind the Scenes of the Web3 Gaming Giant | Animoca Brands Co-Founder, Yat Siu

Behind the Scenes of the Web3 Gaming Giant | Animoca Brands Co-Founder, Yat Siu

Yat Siu is the co-founder and chairman of Animoca Brands, a leading force in the Web3 gaming industry. In this episode, Yat Siu shares the story behind the rise of Animoca Brands, discussing its pioneering work in NFTs, blockchain gaming, and the broader Web3 ecosystem. He delves into the company's mission to bring true digital ownership to users through innovative games and platforms. Yat also provides insights into Animoca's strategic investments and its role in shaping the future of the open metaverse, highlighting the transformative potential of Web3 technologies for gaming, culture, and digital property rights.


0:00 Animoca Brands

6:14 Animoca Investments

10:00 Mocaverse

19:32 "Content as a platform"

24:04 Web3 Social

42:55 NFTs

55:25 Metaverse


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Aug 19, 202401:06:51
Why Building Bitcoin L2s Matter | Stacks Co-Founder Muneeb Ali

Why Building Bitcoin L2s Matter | Stacks Co-Founder Muneeb Ali

Muneeb Ali is the co-founder of Stacks, which is a L2 that enables smart contracts and decentralized applictions to be built on top of Bitcoin. Muneeb is an early adopter in the blockchain industry with over a decade of experience. He offers a unique and insightful perspective on the current landscape of leading Layer 1 blockchains. In our conversation, we explore his views on the role of Layer 2 solutions for Bitcoin, how it compares to Ethereum and Solana, and why Bitcoin holds a unique position as sound money. We also delve into broader industry trends and what the future might hold for scaling solutions.


0:00 Bitcoin L2s

4:07 Muneeb Ali

8:03 Stacks

24:42 Bitcoin VS Ethereum

27:42 Ethereum VS Solana

38:35 Bitcoin As Money

50:40 BitVM

54:24 Rollups on Bitcoin

56:00 DeFi On Bitcoin

1:03:28 EVM

1:05:55 Getting Started With Stacks


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Aug 12, 202401:06:51
Disrupting The Status Quo: How io.net Challenges Big Tech's AI Dominance

Disrupting The Status Quo: How io.net Challenges Big Tech's AI Dominance

Tory Green is the Co-Founder and CEO of io.net, which is a decentralized computing network that powers ML applications and a prominent project in the DePIN category. Their primary mission is to unlock fair access to computing power by assembling over 1 million GPUs from independent data centers, crypto miners, and projects like Filecoin and Render, aiming to decentralize the AI stack and reduce big tech's dominance in the AI industry. They recently made headlines when their CEO stepped down just days before their token launch. In this episode, Tory shares the behind-the-scenes details of this departure and provides an in-depth look into everything io.net.


0:00 What Is io.net?

3:13 Tory Green

7:52 Ahmad's Departure

12:34 io.net Stats

20:45 Competitors

22:38 Participation

31:20 IO Token

35:30 AI x Crypto

43:40 DePIN

45:45 io.net Vision


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Aug 05, 202451:19
Zerion Introduces New Layer 2 With Zero Fees | Evgeny Yurtaev

Zerion Introduces New Layer 2 With Zero Fees | Evgeny Yurtaev

Evgeny Yurtaev is the Co-Founder and CEO of Zerion, which is is an investing tool that enables users to manage their DeFi and NFT portfolios. Recently, Zerion announced the launch of a new Web3 wallet and a Layer 2 solution, Zero Network. These new products aim to enhance the user experience in DeFi by providing a friendlier user experience cost-effective transactions. In our conversation, we dive into the latest updates from Zerion and explore the exciting developments in the DeFi space.


0:00 Zerion Overview

1:50 Evgeny Yurtaev

3:50 Building Zerion

7:16 Zerion Business Model

9:10 Zero Network

27:14 DeFi

32:42 Wallets

44:24 Zerion Vision


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Jul 29, 202448:25
OG DeFi Pioneer Kain Warwick Aims To Transform Crypto UX With Infinex

OG DeFi Pioneer Kain Warwick Aims To Transform Crypto UX With Infinex

Kain Warwick is the founder of Synthetix, an OG DeFi protocol which allows users to mint and trade a wide variety of synthetic assets, including cryptocurrencies, fiat currencies, commodities, and stocks, providing liquidity and exposure without the need for traditional financial intermediaries. His latest project, Infinex, is focused on solving crypto’s UX problems, aiming to make the user experience more intuitive and accessible for all. During EthCC[7], we had the opportunity to interview Kain to dive deeper into Infinex and the solutions they’re planning to solve Crypto UX. 0:00 Synthetix and Infinex 4:05 Incentive Schemes 8:00 Crates 11:35 NFT Governance Token 15:21 Integrations 17:40 Infinex Vision 23:00 Passkeys 28:30 Infinex Business Model 36:46 Synthetix 38:35 DeFi


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Jul 22, 202447:39
The Superchain Thesis: Scaling Ethereum with Optimism - A Deep Dive with Benjamin Jones

The Superchain Thesis: Scaling Ethereum with Optimism - A Deep Dive with Benjamin Jones

Benjamin Jones is the director of the Optimism Foundation, which is dedicated to scaling Ethereum and the team building Optimism Layer 2. Currently, Optimism sits in third place among Layer 2s with $6.42B in Total Value Locked. In this episode, we dive deep into the Superchain Thesis and explore how Optimism aims to optimize Ethereum scalability. We start by discussing what Optimism is and its mission to scale Ethereum, moving on to the foundation's end goal and its vision for the future. We also take a closer look at Benjamin Jones, his role, background and contributions. We also compare various scaling solutions, assess their effectiveness and potential, and discuss the future of zero-knowledge proofs (ZK). Benjamin also explains the philosophy underpinning Optimism's Retro Funding approach.


0:00 What Is Optimism?

2:04 End Goal

3:44 Security

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16:25 1 Human = 1 Vote

20:32 Scaling Solutions

30:00 Is ZK The Future?

36:27 Optimism Superchain

49:00 Retro Funding

57:34 Arbitrum

01:01:27 Building On Optimism

01:05:52 Mainstream


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Jul 15, 202401:11:13
The Most Rational View on Crypto with Noah Seidman, AKA Captain Rational

The Most Rational View on Crypto with Noah Seidman, AKA Captain Rational

Our guest today is Noah Seidman, who has an impressive systematic view on crypto and how crypto fits into the overall macro market. Noah is a technologist with a career spanning two decades. He has a unique perspective on the intersection of crypto and finance, garnering him a reputation as a thought leader. While most on Crypto Twitter are talking about memecoins and the next few months, Noah has been thinking about crypto over a long time horizon. We talk about his macro views, how he chooses to build his portfolio, advice he has for someone starting out, maybe in their 20s, and the secret to him staying on top of all of the market news. He understands things like the monetary premium and categorizes tokens in a very interesting way. Before we dive into this, we discussed what Noah is focused on on his day to day.


0:00 Captain Rational

1:47 Global Macro

4:45 Before Crypto

5:52 Entering Crypto

11:20 Crypto In Macro

17:30 Bitcoin As Reserve Currency

21:13 L1 Value

22:25 Long Term Narratives

25:22 Investment Strategy

28:30 Self Realization

38:45 Decentralization

45:30 Time


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Jul 08, 202450:37
Unlocking Bitcoin's Potential: How Rootstock Uses EVM For Scalability

Unlocking Bitcoin's Potential: How Rootstock Uses EVM For Scalability

Daniel Fogg is the CEO of RootstockLabs, the organization behind the Rootstock sidechain, which is a Bitcoin Layer 2 solution designed to enhance Bitcoin's capabilities with smart contract functionality. Rootstock was launched in January 2018, becoming the first Bitcoin sidechain, and is secured by Bitcoin's hashing power through a merged mining process. The sidechain leverages Bitcoin's security while enabling Ethereum compatible smart contracts, aiming to reduce transaction costs and improve scalability​ 0:00 Rootstock's Story 7:11 The Architecture 14:52 Use Cases 21:25 Bitcoin Community 27:00 Ordinals and BRC20 30:32 BitVM 36:00 Merged Mining 41:17 Competition


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Jul 01, 202456:37
Bridging Web2 and Web3: Suji Yan on Mask Network's Vision

Bridging Web2 and Web3: Suji Yan on Mask Network's Vision

Suji Yan is the founder of Mask Network, a platform that brings privacy and benefits from Web3 to traditional social media like Facebook & Twitter. Suji Yan launched Mask to provide users with tools to encrypt their social media interactions and protect their online privacy. His goal is to create an internet where individuals have more control over their digital presence. In our conversation, we get into the current SocialFi landscape, its limitations, and the importance of decentralized social media for everyday users. 0:00 Intro 0:40 Mask Network 9:30 Web2 + Web3 Social Media 22:05 Content Creation 36:11 Adoption 45:15 Problems With SocialFi 54:07 Why Should We Care? 57:23 Current SocialFi Landscape Our sponsorhttps://stellar.org/soroban?utm_source=defiant&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=defiant_podcasthttps://zkverify.io/?utm_source=defiant&utm_medium=pd&utm_campaign=ad_1 https://www.karpatkey.com/?utm_source=Youtube_des&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Defiant ✨ Check out our new website ✨ https://thedefiant.io/ 🚀 Sign up to our newsletter 🚀 https://thedefiant.io/go-premium#pricing?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=signup 🤑 Find DeFi investment opportunities & educational primers here https://thedefiant.io/promo?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=alpha ✊ Follow The Defiant Twitter: https://twitter.com/defiantnews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/3SdRdEs5ag Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedefiant.io/ Telegram: https://t.me/DefiantNews 📬 Contact our Newsroom editorial@thedefiant.io 🤝 Sponsorships & Partnerships sponsors@thedefiant.io #TheDefiant​ #DeFi​ #Decentralized​ #Finance​ #Blockchain #Web3

Jun 24, 202401:05:16
YGG's Guild Protocol, Onchain Reputation, And The Next Wave Of Web3 Gaming With Gabby Dizon

YGG's Guild Protocol, Onchain Reputation, And The Next Wave Of Web3 Gaming With Gabby Dizon

Gabby Dizon is the Co-Founder of Yield Guild Games (YGG), a decentralized autonomous organization that invests in virtual world assets. Yield Guild Games focuses on creating a global community of gamers who earn rewards by playing blockchain-based games. YGG operates on the play-to-earn model, allowing players to generate income through in-game activities and ownership of digital assets.


0:00 Intro

1:23 Yield Guild Games

4:34 New Games

5:42 Gabby Dizon

8:39 Ronin

10:21 YGG Token

15:30 Criticisms

18:05 Protocol Transition

24:15 Onchain Guilds

33:33 Badges and Onchain Reputation

40:25 Gaming and NFT Activity

44:40 Building in 2024

48:35 Mass Applications


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Jun 17, 202449:35
Robinhood's Big Bet on Crypto: Crypto GM Johann Kerbrat Explains

Robinhood's Big Bet on Crypto: Crypto GM Johann Kerbrat Explains

Johann Kerbrat is the Crypto General Manager at Robinhood, one of the largest exchanges in the world. In today's episode will delve into his journey with Robinhood Crypto. His thoughts on the future of the industry and the groundbreaking work they are doing to democratize finance for all. They have launched a lot of products recently, including a self custodial wallet, staking, Web3 games and more. Before we dive into this, Johann tells us about his background and responsibilities at Robinhood Crypto.


0:00 Intro

0:42 Johann Kerbrat

1:21 Robinhood

1:52 Entering Crypto

2:59 Robinhood Products

4:16 Feedback

6:00 Web3

8:39 Fees

9:46 Crypto Exchanges

11:00 Regulation

14:55 Tokens

16:21 Self Custody Wallet

17:46 DeFi

18:35 Staking

19:48 What's Next?

21:00 Robinhood Chain

21:54 Tokens

24:13 Tokenization

25:33 How Are You Defiant?


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Jun 10, 202426:47
Revisiting Ripple: New Stablecoin, Airdrops, Network Attacks, and The SEC Case

Revisiting Ripple: New Stablecoin, Airdrops, Network Attacks, and The SEC Case

David Schwartz is the CTO of Ripple, a Layer 1 blockchain that has been an established name in the cryptocurrency industry since 2012. Ripple is the platform behind XRP, one of the original cryptocurrencies, which currently ranks eighth in market capitalization at $30 billion. Known for its numerous legal battles with the SEC, Ripple has also recently announced the launch of a new stablecoin. In this podcast, we will explore all of the latest developments and more, starting with the founding story of Ripple.


0:00 Intro

1:04 Founding Story of Ripple

5:20 RippleNet

8:05 XRP Tokenomics and Incentive Model

12:56 Bad Actors

15:11 Network Attacks

17:55 XRP Distribution

26:45 Use Cases

39:25 Ripple Stablecoin

48:18 DeFi On XRP Ledger

53:33 Smart Contracts

57:56 SEC Case

1:05:30 Ripple in the Future


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Jun 03, 202401:08:46
Inside PayPal's Blockchain Strategy: Insights from the Head of Crypto

Inside PayPal's Blockchain Strategy: Insights from the Head of Crypto

Jose Fernandez da Ponte is the Head of Crypto at PayPal. PayPal's entry into the crypto market dates back to 2020 when they announced the integration of various crypto assets, enabling users to buy, sell, and hold digital currencies. Since then, they have progressively expanded their crypto offerings and adopted more ambitious strategies to incorporate blockchain technology. In this podcast, we'll explore PayPal's motivation for entering the crypto space, the current crypto applications available on their platform, the creation and purpose of their stablecoin, PYUSD, and their approach to facilitating mass adoption of blockchain technology.


0:00 Intro

0:58 PayPal Enters Crypto

6:27 PayPal Crypto Payments

16:58 Fees

20:16 PayPal Wallet

22:28 PYUSD

36:43 PayPal Yield

40:23 Stablecoin Competition

48:57 Multichain

53:25 Adoption


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May 27, 202401:03:58
$100B in Digital Assets: Lukas Schor on Safe, $SAFE, Smart Accounts and Quantum Computing

$100B in Digital Assets: Lukas Schor on Safe, $SAFE, Smart Accounts and Quantum Computing

Lukas Schor is the Co-Founder of Safe, an onchain asset custody protocol, securing ~$100 Billion in assets today. Originally developed under Gnosis as a smart account for securing digital assets, Safe eventually became an independent project after spinning off on its own. Today, Safe has a TVL of over $100B. In this episode, we go over the recently launched $GNO token, its use cases, early days of Gnosis as an onchain prediction market. Later, Lukas discusses the impact of quantum computing on blockchain security and the future potential of smart accounts. He also explores the challenges and opportunities in achieving mainstream adoption of Web3 wallets. The episode concludes with insights into Safe's upcoming features aimed at supporting a billion Web3 users.


0:00 Intro

1:05 Safe Founding Story

3:30 Gnosis Prediction Markets

5:17 Lukas Schor

7:21 $GNO Token

18:47 Smart Accounts

25:16 Quantum Computing

33:33 Web3 Wallets

37:25 How is Safe safe?

39:23 New Features

47:52 Billion Web3 Users


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May 21, 202454:04
BlackRock's BUIDL | Creating The Largest Tokenized Treasury Fund With Securitize

BlackRock's BUIDL | Creating The Largest Tokenized Treasury Fund With Securitize

Carlos Domingo is the founder and CEO of Securitize, a platform for issuing and trading security tokens or digital securities on the blockchain. Securitize aims to modernize the traditional financial markets by leveraging blockchain technology to provide greater accessibility, efficiency, and transparency in securities trading. Securitize recently partnered up with BlackRock to explore innovations in tokenizing assets and broadening access to the private capital markets. In today's podcast, we uncover all the details behind this collaboration and explore what the future holds for tokenized innovation.


0:00 Intro

1:09 BlackRock BUIDL Fund

3:22 Onchain vs Offchain

5:01 Institutional Investors

5:36 Secondary Market

7:26 Carlos Domingo & Securitize

12:10 Future of Tokenization

15:35 BlackRock's Impact

22:15 Use Cases

30:12 Investors

33:19 Tokenized Innovation

37:53 Real World vs Crypto Economy

47:27 Web2 vs Web3


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May 06, 202451:59
Aave, Lens, and Avara: Stani Kulechov's Journey Through DeFi and Web3 Social

Aave, Lens, and Avara: Stani Kulechov's Journey Through DeFi and Web3 Social

Stani Kulechov is the founder of Aave, which has become the largest lending protocol in DeFi. Aave has evolved under a new umbrella called Avara, incorporating additional projects like Lens, a Web3 social media protocol, and a family and Web3 wallet. Stani has previously discussed these developments on our show in 2020 and 2022, and with each appearance, the Avara family has expanded significantly. As a prominent leader in the DeFi and Web3 space, Stani's insights are always highly anticipated. In this podcast, we start with a refreshener on Stani and his journey, then dive into the specifics of the protocols he has developed.


0:00 Intro

1:15 Stani Kulechov

4:40 DeFi + Web3 Social

8:53 Lens Protocol

14:28 Developer Community

17:48 Lens Applications

19:58 Lens Stats

25:20 Monetization in Web3 Social

30:27 Token Integration

34:05 Permissionless

37:15 Farcaster

41:10 Lens Token

43:10 Aave

47:10 Competition

48:52 Lens + Aave

50:04 Reaching Mainstream


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Apr 29, 202451:41
How Blockchains and Tokens Are Powering the Next Internet Revolution

How Blockchains and Tokens Are Powering the Next Internet Revolution

Hello Defiers! Today, I'm bringing you a very special episode from a session I moderated at SXSW this year. SXSW is a massive festival annually held in Austin, Texas, that merges music, film, and tech into an exciting blend of creativity and innovation, drawing artists, entrepreneurs, and enthusiasts from around the globe. At SXSW, I had the opportunity of leading a session with Chris Dixon, a General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where we focused on his recent publication, "Read Write Own: Building the Next Era of the Internet." This book is an essential read for anyone looking to grasp the essence of the Web3 movement. Dixon has a way of making complex topics accessible to all. I'm excited for you to hear our conversation and dive into the insights Chris shared. Let's dive in!0:00 Intro0:50 Panel with Chris Dixon 1:50 Read, Write, Own6:55 Tokens14:33 Hyperfinancialization19:01 Main Use Cases of Crypto27:14 Plutocracy 33:42 Corporatization in Web342:20 AI Content50:05 POS Blockchain Risks54:13 CBDC's 56:08 Future Applications✨ Check out our new website ✨ https://thedefiant.io/ 🚀 Sign up to our newsletter 🚀 https://thedefiant.io/go-premium#pricing?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=signup 🤑 Find DeFi investment opportunities & educational primers here https://thedefiant.io/promo?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=alpha ✊ Follow The Defiant Twitter: https://twitter.com/defiantnews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/3SdRdEs5ag Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedefiant.io/ Telegram: https://t.me/DefiantNews 📬 Contact our Newsroom editorial@thedefiant.io 🤝 Sponsorships & Partnerships sponsors@thedefiant.io #TheDefiant​ #DeFi​ #Decentralized​ #Finance​ #Blockchain #Web3

Apr 23, 202401:01:51
Memecoins, Web3 Social Media, and the Evolution of Token Models with Li Jin

Memecoins, Web3 Social Media, and the Evolution of Token Models with Li Jin

Li Jin is a prominent figure in the venture capital industry. She is the co-founder and managing partner at Variant Fund, a venture firm that invests in Web3 and the ownership economy. Before founding Variant, Li Jin worked at Andreessen Horowitz, a leading venture capital firm, where she helped to shape the firm’s views on the emerging tech landscape, including the gig and passion economies. In today's discussion, we delve into memecoins, Web3 social media, and the evolving landscape of token models, examining how these elements are shaping the future of digital economies and influencing user interaction in decentralized networks.


0:00 Intro

1:11 Variant Fund

3:20 Li Jin

4:55 Benefits of Blockchains at Consumer Level

7:55 Web3 Social Media

12:50 Speculative Media

18:20 Memecoin Products

24:24 Censorship

25:47 Web3 GTM Strategy

34:30 Token Models

47:41 Governance Tokens

52:00 Trends


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Apr 15, 202455:43
"Really Crazy Stuff Will Happen With AVSs", ether.fi Founder Mike Silagadze

"Really Crazy Stuff Will Happen With AVSs", ether.fi Founder Mike Silagadze

In today's podcast we host Mike Silagadze, founder of ether.fi, an Ethereum restaking protocol, and Nikhil Raghuveera, co-founder of Aethos, a decentralized policy engine being built on EigenLayer. Liquid restaking has recently emerged as a significant trend in the Ethereum ecosystem. In today's podcast, we'll delve into the use cases that restaking unlocks via Active Validating Services (AVSs) through EigenLayer, shedding light on how this innovation is shaping the ecosystem. 0:00 Intro 2:08 ether.fi 7:40 Aethos 13:15 Economic Security 18:28 AVS Allocations 23:20 Aethos Revenue 30:08 Risks of AVSs 39:40 Rehypothecation 43:07 Depeg Risk 54:14 ether.fi Roadmap 57:28 Aethos Roadmap Our sponsors https://www.solanacrossroads.com/ https://summer.fi/?utm_source=Defiant&utm_campaign=podcast&utm_content=Synfutures: https://oyster.synfutures.com/ ✨ Check out our new website ✨ https://thedefiant.io/ 🚀 Sign up to our newsletter 🚀 https://thedefiant.io/go-premium#pricing?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=signup 🤑 Find DeFi investment opportunities & educational primers here https://thedefiant.io/promo?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=alpha ✊ Follow The Defiant Twitter: https://twitter.com/defiantnews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/3SdRdEs5ag Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedefiant.io/ Telegram: https://t.me/DefiantNews 📬 Contact our Newsroom editorial@thedefiant.io 🤝 Sponsorships & Partnerships sponsors@thedefiant.io #TheDefiant​ #DeFi​ #Decentralized​ #Finance​ #Blockchain #Web3

Apr 08, 202401:00:47
Pendle Finance Deep Dive With Founder TN Lee

Pendle Finance Deep Dive With Founder TN Lee

TN Lee is the founder of Pendle Finance - a DeFi platform that enables users to tokenize and trade future yield on Ethereum assets. Pendle has shown remarkable expansion since the beginning of the year, elevating its TVL from $250 million to over $3 billion in just a few months. In this podcast, we explore the fundamentals of Pendle Finance, providing a comprehensive understanding of one of DeFi's most complex and innovative products. We start off with a background into Lee, then breakdown Pendle's core concepts and gradually dive deeper into Pendle's use cases, risks, and future plans.

0:00 Intro

0:53 TL;DR Pendle

2:06 TN Lee

7:30 Pendle V1

12:13 Growth of Pendle

22:04 Pendle Basics (PT, YT)

30:53 Use Cases

36:25 Pendle Users

38:25 Risks

48:43 Learnings From Kyber

49:39 TradFi vs Pendle

51:20 $PENDLE

58:19 What's Next?

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Apr 01, 202401:02:07
Reflecting on a Decade | Stellar's Evolution in 2024

Reflecting on a Decade | Stellar's Evolution in 2024

Tomer Weller is the VP of Product at Stellar, one of the earliest alternative Layer 1 chains that existed before Ethereum. Stellar recently launched Soroban, its smart contract platform, designed to enhance the blockchain's functionality with efficient, developer-friendly tools for building sophisticated applications. In today's conversation, we dive deep into Stellar, overview their fundamentals, reflect on its decade long journey as a Layer 1 blockchain, and have a closer look into the current use cases.


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0:00 Intro

0:58 Stellar Overview

2:01 Tomer Weller

3:48 Stellar Fundamentals

8:49 Being Early

12:06 Smart Contracts

17:26 Attracting Developers

23:09 Use Cases

29:52 Argentina

33:10 Franklin Templeton

36:49 Censorship Resistance

39:30 Scaling

55:17 Stellar Validators

1:00:58 What's Next?


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Mar 27, 202401:04:24
Bridging East and West in Crypto | Erica Kang of KryptoSeoul

Bridging East and West in Crypto | Erica Kang of KryptoSeoul

Erica Kang is the CEO and founder of KryptoSeoul, a leading community building team in South Korea that focuses on blockchain projects. Erica has been a bridge between the East and the West for a very long time, and today we get to dive deep into her journey. She grew up in Korea, then moved to the United States and did a stint in Vietnam. She has not only reshaped the blockchain landscape, but she's also championed a new era of community driven empowerment. Before we dive into all of that, Erica will share a little bit about how she first got involved in the crypto community.


0:00 Intro

0:48 Community in Crypto

5:16 Erika Kang's Personal Journey

8:03 Differences in Culture

13:12 BUIDL Asia + ETH Seoul

15:47 Crypto Projects in Korea

20:30 Kimchi Premium

22:20 Information Flow

26:55 BTC as SOV

30:09 Terra's Implosion

33:00 KryptoSeoul Community

38:17 Events in Asia

40:50 How are you defiant?


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Mar 25, 202443:06