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The Digital Couch

By ValueFirst

Curated by ValueFirst, The Digital Couch features the leading global thinkers and their stories

Founded in 2003, ValueFirst connects businesses with their consumers over telecom and internet channels, at scale. ValueFirst assists brands across sectors to build conversational experiences by offering Apple Business Messaging, Chatbots, Email, Google Business Messaging, Instagram, RCS Business Messaging, SMS, Voice, and WhatsApp through communication platforms and smart APIs.

ValueFirst is run by ~500 free-spirited individuals spread across the globe.
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The one with Hitarth Saini (FREO)

The Digital CouchJun 21, 2022

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The one with Hitarth Saini (FREO)

The one with Hitarth Saini (FREO)

Who is Hitarth Saini?

Founding Member and Head of Marketing 

Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jun 21, 202226:00
The one with Gaurav Suri (UTI Mutual Fund)

The one with Gaurav Suri (UTI Mutual Fund)

Who is Gaurav Suri?

Head of Marketing & Product at UTI Mutual Fund


Who is the host?

Vijayant Dhaka of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Mar 19, 202252:21
The one with Prashant Puri (AdLift)

The one with Prashant Puri (AdLift)

Who is Prashant Puri?

CEO & Co-Founder at AdLift


What are the key takeaways from this episode?

- marketer of 2022, a juggler

- seo and digital transformation

- is performance marketing killing creativity


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Mar 13, 202222:15
The one with Arjun Vaidya (Verlinvest)

The one with Arjun Vaidya (Verlinvest)

Who is Arjun Vaidya?

Ventures Lead - India at Verlinvest


What are the key takeaways from this episode?

- from selling a company to becoming a VC

- the India D2C wave


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Mar 02, 202226:18
The one with Shirish Agarwal (Panasonic India) - Trailblazer Edition

The one with Shirish Agarwal (Panasonic India) - Trailblazer Edition

Who is Shirish Agarwal?

Head - Marketing Communication & Brand of Panasonic India


What are the three key takeaways from this episode?

- the art of storyteching

- shift towards a digital world

- data relevance and CDP platforms


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 23, 202228:22
The one with Karan Kumar (DLF Limited) - Trailblazer Edition

The one with Karan Kumar (DLF Limited) - Trailblazer Edition

Who is Karan Kumar?

Chief Marketing Officer of DLF Limited


What are the three key takeaways from this episode?

- the power of self belief and leading through change

- digital transformation in real estate

- channel efficacy and marketing mix


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 17, 202231:40
The one with Divya Dixit (ALTBalaji)

The one with Divya Dixit (ALTBalaji)

Who is Divya Dixit?

SVP - Marketing, Partnerships & Revenue of ALTBalaji


What are the three key takeaways from this episode?

- the coming of the OTT industry during the COVID-19

- OTT from an Indian context of content and marketing

- creating a homegrown market share


Who is the host?

Himanshu Kumar of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 08, 202221:44
The one with Karthik Yathindra (Jockey India) - Trailblazer Edition

The one with Karthik Yathindra (Jockey India) - Trailblazer Edition

Who is Karthik Yathindra?

Chief Marketing Officer of Jockey India, Page Industries


What are the three key takeaways from this episode?

- juggling too many things from product growth, sales to marketing as a marketer

- introduction of AI and high-tech marketing automation across the globe

- activewear or leisurewear industry during the COVID-19


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 01, 202228:35
The one with Vatsal Asher (DMAasia) - Trailblazer Edition

The one with Vatsal Asher (DMAasia) - Trailblazer Edition

Who is Vatsal Asher?

Director & CEO of DMAasia


What are the three takeaways from this episode?

- the Indian marketing journey over the years

- data-driven yet storytelling based marketing will remain at the forefront as we move ahead

- the problem of finding ROI for a marketer


Who is the host?

Shoury Gupta of ValueFirst, a Twilio company


Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 26, 202226:35
Communicating all-day, every-day with Mark Gilbert (Twilio)

Communicating all-day, every-day with Mark Gilbert (Twilio)

This is an excerpt from ValueFirst's event, Conversations. Vishwadeep Bajaj (ValueFirst) hosts Mark Gilbert (Twilio). Successful businesses today have evolved at the speed of light to keep up with increasing customer demands and the need for customized digital experiences. Customers of today expect a lot out of their brands. Any gap in consistency, break-in deliverability, or unwanted message can erode customer trust. This episode focuses on how important is it for enterprises to be truly 24*7 for their consumers.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 04, 202221:30
The New Normal of Product Management with Zach Smocha (Twilio)

The New Normal of Product Management with Zach Smocha (Twilio)

This is an excerpt from ValueFirst's event, Conversations. Delbmalya De (ValueFirst) hosts Zach Smocha (Twilio). Our lives have turned upside down over the last 21 months. The episode will capture how a product manager is a Mini-CEO of a product and the role of the product teams in creating customer value. Key touchpoints of the session will include looking at product problems broadly, implementing a data-driven approach, and the power of API.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 04, 202232:06
Creating a Brand for the Long-Term with Shashank Srivastava (Maruti Suzuki)

Creating a Brand for the Long-Term with Shashank Srivastava (Maruti Suzuki)

This is an excerpt from ValueFirst's event, Conversations. Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) hosts Shashank Srivastava (Maruti Suzuki). In this episode, we speak about an Indian car manufacturer and how it has created a brand which has been loved for almost four decades now.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 04, 202226:20
Customer Loyalty with Hemant Kumar (The Man Company)

Customer Loyalty with Hemant Kumar (The Man Company)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Vijayant makes a comeback with Hemant Kumar. Hemant is Vice President - Growth at The Man Company. Hemant and Vijayant talk about Hemant's journey, customer loyalty, customer engagement, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 20, 202129:01
Cloud Computing with Raj Ravuri (Salesforce)

Cloud Computing with Raj Ravuri (Salesforce)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury hosts Raj Ravuri. Raj is Director and Manufacturing Industry Advisor at Salesforce and has 25+ years of experience in the IT industry across Salesforce, Wipro, KPMG Consulting etc advising Fortune 500 organisations across Manufacturing sector in USA, Europe, and Asia Pacific. Raj and Shoury talk about cloud computing, digital transformation, customer relationships, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 13, 202129:03
Incentivized Marketing with Josh Graham (Airtime Rewards)

Incentivized Marketing with Josh Graham (Airtime Rewards)

Himanshu hosts Josh Graham of Airtime Rewards in this episode. Catch them speak about becoming an entrepreneur, about Airtime Rewards, incentivized marketing, digitization, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 06, 202126:38
Net Revenue & Brand Management with Kaj-Dac Tam (Orkla Group)

Net Revenue & Brand Management with Kaj-Dac Tam (Orkla Group)

Himanshu & Shoury host Kaj-Dac Tam of Orkla Group. Kaj is Head of Net Revenue Management at Orkla Group. Earlier, Kaj held roles at Findus Sverige, Lund University, and Massive Entertainment. They speak about brand equity, calculating ROI, net-revenue management, and data-driven approach. Do not miss this one!

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Sep 29, 202124:00
Leadership & Experiences with Venkataraman Thyagarajan (Ashok Leyland)

Leadership & Experiences with Venkataraman Thyagarajan (Ashok Leyland)

Himanshu & Shoury host Venkat of Ashok Leyland. He is currently the Chairman of Ashok Leyland Educational Trust. Venkat has held leadership roles across the world at organizations including Ashok Leyland, Tafe, Enfield, Macneil, and more. He’s an alumnus of IIT Madras. They speak about Venkat's journey, leadership, hiring talent, and more.

PS- Venkat launched India's first EV vehicle.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Sep 21, 202147:46
Digitizing Status Quo with Rohan Shridhar (Terra Economics & Analytics Lab)

Digitizing Status Quo with Rohan Shridhar (Terra Economics & Analytics Lab)

In this episode, Himanshu speaks with Rohan Shridhar. Rohan is the Co-Founder of Terra Economics & Analytics Lab. He's a lawyer turned into a tech founder. Listen to his incredible story and how Terra is making property information easy and accessible.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Sep 15, 202101:00:38
Marketer to a CEO with Nitish Bajaj (Piramal Group)

Marketer to a CEO with Nitish Bajaj (Piramal Group)

We're launching season four with Nitish Bajaj, CEO of Piramal Group. Nitish talks to Shoury and Himanshu about his journey from being a marketer to a CEO, the importance of goal setting (aka what is next), the pandemic and more. Do not miss his rapid fire!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Sep 06, 202154:14
All in with Anuj Gupta (Adda52)

All in with Anuj Gupta (Adda52)

We finish. season 3 of The Digital Couch with Anuj Gupta, India's renowned entrepreneur. His ventures include Adda52, Poker Sports League and more. Anuj speaks to Himanshu and Shoury about starting up five times, acquiring your first few users, and points to keep in mind when looking for investment. Do not miss this one!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Aug 22, 202136:20
The Indian Samurai, Ram N Kumar (NirogStreet)

The Indian Samurai, Ram N Kumar (NirogStreet)

Ram N Kumar is the Founder of NirogStreet, a digital platform that brings together the best, certified and registered professional practitioners with medical degrees in Ayurveda and other Indian system of medicine. Himanshu hosts Ram and they speak about Ram's experience, fund raising, Ayurveda, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Aug 16, 202133:47
Nurturing future leaders with Devvaki Aggarwal (Instrucko)

Nurturing future leaders with Devvaki Aggarwal (Instrucko)

Devvaki is the CEO at Instrucko, the world’s first live one-to-one language learning platform through storytelling, with a focus on emotional intelligence and critical thinking. Himanshu hosts Devvaki on the Digital Couch and they speak about online education, finding the right target audience, and become a female founder.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Aug 09, 202149:07
Starting Up with Dhruv Madhok (Arata)

Starting Up with Dhruv Madhok (Arata)

Himanshu Kumar makes his podcast hosting debut as he is joined by Dhruv Madhok of Arata. Dhruv talks about his journey, fundraising, product development, the personal care industry, and starting up. In his past roles, Dhruv spent time at Bird Group, PVR, Snacket, and KPMG.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Aug 04, 202145:21
Customer Behaviour & Experience with Punit Banga (Nissan India)

Customer Behaviour & Experience with Punit Banga (Nissan India)

In the sixth episode of the third season, The Digital Couch hosts Punit Banga of Nissan India. Shoury and Punit speak about the world of customer experience management, the automobile industry, COVID-19, digital transformation, and more. Don't miss this one!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jul 28, 202126:23
Curiosity & Growth with Prabhakar Tiwari (Angel Broking Ltd.)

Curiosity & Growth with Prabhakar Tiwari (Angel Broking Ltd.)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Vijayant Dhaka speaks with Prabhakar Tiwari of Angel Broking Ltd. Catch them talk about PT's journey, the amazing things Angel Broking is doing, the question of growth, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jul 19, 202146:16
Talking the Leap with Avani Rajput (leap.club)

Talking the Leap with Avani Rajput (leap.club)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta speaks with Avani Rajput of the leap.club. Catch them talk about Avani's journey, the amazing things leap.club is doing, power of networking, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jul 07, 202121:11
Telling stories to the world with Moneka Khurana (MMA India)

Telling stories to the world with Moneka Khurana (MMA India)

In the third episode of season 3, Shoury Gupta hosts Moneka Khurana. Moneka is Country Head of MMA India.

Catch her speak about her journey, marketing, MMA, India, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Mar 05, 202132:38
Tête-à-tête with Mohit Raina (Domino's)

Tête-à-tête with Mohit Raina (Domino's)

In the second episode of season 3, Vijayant Dhaka hosts Mohit Raina. Mohit is AVP-Marketing at Dominos Pizza. In his past avatars, he has held roles at DNA Network, PepsiCo, and Gillette.

Catch him speak about his journey, marketing, change management, collaboration, travel, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 22, 202140:26
The world of marketing with Anita Nayyar (Zee5)

The world of marketing with Anita Nayyar (Zee5)

In the first episode of season 3, Vijayant Dhaka hosts Anita Nayyar. Anita is Head of Customer Strategy & Relationships at ZEE5. In the past, Anita has held senior roles at Havas Media, Starcom and Mudra Communications in the past.

Catch her speak about advertising, marketing agencies, her journey, and women in business!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Feb 04, 202135:23
The one with Gautam Nimmagadda (Quixy)

The one with Gautam Nimmagadda (Quixy)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) is joined by Gautam Nimmagadda (Quixy).

Gautam is CEO & Founder of Quixy. In the season finale, Shoury and Gautam speak about digital transformation, SMBs, no-code platforms and more. Don't miss this one!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 26, 202128:01
The one with Priya Dar (Amway)

The one with Priya Dar (Amway)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Vijayant Dhaka (ValueFirst) is joined by Priya Dar (Amway).

Priya is Head of Digital Strategy & Innovation at Amway India. In her previous avatars, she held leadership roles at Godfrey Phillips, Indus Towers, Capgemini and other organizations. Vijayant and Priya speak about digital transformation, COVID-19, FMCG sector, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jan 08, 202131:53
The one with Punit Modhgil (Octane Research)
Jan 03, 202134:57
The one with Rohit Kulkarni (Payoneer)

The one with Rohit Kulkarni (Payoneer)

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) is joined by Rohit Kulkarni (Payoneer).

Rohit is Vice President at Payoneer and is driving growth in South Asia, North Africa, and Middle East. In his career spanning over two decades, Rohit has held roles at Amazon, Yahoo, GE Money, and Sodexo. Rohit and Shoury speak about SMB's, digital payments, COVID-19, and more.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Dec 29, 202029:26
The one with Anand Bhatia (Fino Payments Bank)

The one with Anand Bhatia (Fino Payments Bank)

In our sixth episode of the second season, Vijayant Dhaka (ValueFirst) hosts Anand Bhatia (Fino Payments Bank).

Anand is Chief Marketing Officer at Fino Payments Bank. Anand has been in the business of – Seeing what everybody sees, hearing what everyone hears but thinking through what others do not. This has been his mantra.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Dec 18, 202030:01
The one with Nikhil Dhar (Indigo)

The one with Nikhil Dhar (Indigo)

In our fifth episode, Vijayant Dhaka (ValueFirst) hosts Nikhil Dhar (Indigo).

Nikhil is the Director of Marketing & Communication at Indigo. Nikhil talks about COVID-19 & Travel, Work From Home, and the way Indigo communicated with its customers in the last few months.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Nov 10, 202041:39
The one with Molly Kapoor (Aditya Birla Sun Life)

The one with Molly Kapoor (Aditya Birla Sun Life)

In our fourth episode, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) hosts Molly Kapoor (Aditya Birla Sun Life).

Molly Kapoor is Head – Marketing at Aditya Birla Sun Life AMC Limited (formerly known as Birla Sun Life Asset Management Company Limited).

In her previous role, Molly managed ICICI Prudential's Customer Service Strategy. A Masters in Economics and a post-graduate from NMIMS, Mumbai, Molly is also a Green Belt level practitioner of Six Sigma.

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Nov 02, 202022:02
The one with Amit Haralalka (TATA Digital)

The one with Amit Haralalka (TATA Digital)

In this episode, Vijayant Dhaka (ValueFirst) hosts Amit Haralalka (TATA Digital).

Amit is the author of 'The Fresh Brew' and currently works on products at TATA Digital. Amit has worked across India, China, Europe, the US and loves being at the intersection of digital, culture, and people!

Shoot us an email at thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 27, 202035:31
The one with Shweta Singh (Unilodgers)

The one with Shweta Singh (Unilodgers)

In this episode, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) hosts Shweta Singh (Unilodgers). Shweta is Chief Business Officer at Unilodgers.

Shweta has held board positions at Fitso, IndiaMoney.com, LetsMD, and Sheroes. She’s been on the leadership teams at Lumis Capitals and SRI Capital. Shweta ran an early-stage investment firm – Sol Primero where she invested in high-growth Indian internet businesses across various sectors. She has worked at Zomato and UBS Bank in the past. Shweta holds an MBA from the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, a master's from the University of Cambridge, and an undergraduate degree from St. Stephens College, University of Delhi.

Shweta speaks about her journey, technology, investment, COVID-19, and more.

Shoot us an email to thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 13, 202036:09
The one with Bruce Schwack (NetMeds.com)

The one with Bruce Schwack (NetMeds.com)

In this episode, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) begins the second season with Bruce Schwack (NetMeds.com). Bruce leads a team of world class thinkers, doers and disruptors in the industry. Bruce enlightens us with his experiences on creating one of the most disruptive companies in India and his story so far.

Shoot us an email to thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Oct 05, 202033:56
The Digital Couch with Vish Bajaj

The Digital Couch with Vish Bajaj

In our tenth episode, we host our very own, Vishwadeep Bajaj. Vish is CEO & Founder of ValueFirst. He speaks about his entrepreneurial journey, pivoting businesses, creating a culture, and managing people. Don't miss this one!

Shoot us an email to thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming seasons.

Aug 28, 202029:45
The Digital Couch with Rajeev Singh

The Digital Couch with Rajeev Singh

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) is joined by Rajeev Singh. Rajeev is Vice President- Strategic Industries at SAP. He has held leadership roles at SAP and Oracle in the past. He speaks about his journey from being an engineer to a business leader now. He also speaks about the sales ecosystem, COVID-19, and aces the rapid-fire round.

Shoot us an email to thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Aug 14, 202032:18
The Digital Couch with Mayank Singh

The Digital Couch with Mayank Singh

In the eighth episode of The Digital Couch, we host Mayank Singh. Mayank is Head of Marketing, Technology & Business Transformation at Domino’s Pizza Indonesia. Previously he held roles at SminQ, Zee Entertainment, NDTV, and Times Group. Mayank speaks about his journey from engineering to product to marketing, online ordering, and technology.

Aug 07, 202043:25
The Digital Couch with Apurva Chamaria

The Digital Couch with Apurva Chamaria

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) is joined by Apurva Chamaria (RateGain). Apurva is Chief Revenue Officer at RateGain and has held leadership roles at HCL and Ranbaxy in the past. Apurva is an angel investor, author of two best-selling books, a thought leader, and a social worker. In this episode, Apurva speaks about his journey, COVID-19, and closes with some great tips and suggestions.

Jul 31, 202032:48
The Digital Couch with Vijayant Dhaka

The Digital Couch with Vijayant Dhaka

In this episode of The Digital Couch, Shoury Gupta (ValueFirst) is joined by Vijayant Dhaka. Vijayant has held leadership roles at Cheetah Digital and Octane in the past. Vijayant now leads email and marketing automation business at ValueFirst. Hear him speak about his journey and how he has seen the industry change over the years. He speaks about buying patterns, handholding customers, and long-term relationships with customers.

Shoot us an email to thedigitalcouch@vfirst.com if you found value in this episode and have suggestions for our upcoming episodes.

Jul 24, 202032:04
The Digital Couch with Payal Koul
Jul 17, 202020:47
The Digital Couch with Matthijs Keij
Jul 10, 202027:16
The Digital Couch with Manish Joshi
Jul 03, 202028:11
The Digital Couch with Abhijit Chakraborty
Jun 26, 202030:26
The Digital Couch with Amit Dubey
Jun 19, 202039:50