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Ground Work

Ground Work

By Kate Kavanaugh
Welcome to Ground Work - a space to explore our minds, bodies, and the soil beneath our feet. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. I'm digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the Ground Work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!
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The Journey to the Summit with Erin Pata
Erin Pata is one of those people whose journey makes you deeply consider your own life’s journey. Her journey starts in Ohio and winds through ranching and dry farming in the Jalama Valley in California, many National Parks, motherhood, graphic design, and leads her to where she stands now: at the precipice of attempting the summit of Mt. Rainier. We talk about why we chase our dreams - whether they’re mountains, art, or just a life guided by wanderlust. Our conversation leads us to look at life through the lens of motherhood and the lessons we impart to our children that we could probably stand to learn ourselves. Throughout the conversation, we hit on values that guide her life - things like freedom, bravery, curiosity, and creativity. We dive into her passion for tracking megafauna and how it led her to buy a piece of property where she’s building a cabin in Montana. Through all the time she’s spent in nature, we talk about how nature has the ability to bring a sense of peace and calm to highly sensitive people, and we have a detailed conversation about both of our experiences as HSP’s. This is a rollicking conversation and Erin’s wisdom and zest for life is contagious. We also talk about: Erin’s work as a freelance graphic designer Problem solving Learning to mountaineer & so much more! Resources: Instagram: @butterbeanstudios Website: butterbeanstudios.com Further Reading: Night of the Grizzlies by Jack Olsen The Highly Sensitive Person by Elaine Aron  Other Mentions: Identifying Your Values with Africa Brooke Daniel Curry’s work The Tooth and Claw Podcast Cover Photo by Trever Stolte Current Discounts for GW listeners: 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15 Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Website
01:40:15
May 24, 2022
Collecting Skills with Josh Curtiss
In this episode, Kate takes a step outside of her relationship with her husband and really gets curious about what makes the man she married tick. This discussion is both rollicking and intimate. Josh Curtiss has been collecting skills over the last two decades - as a master carpenter, butcher, farmer, welder, entrepreneur, and so much more. We talk about how he arrived at the decision to collect skills and how he tended to and cultivated them over the years. Not just that, but we talk about play and joy as skills that we must practice. As Josh says “play is the embodiment of practicing joy.” Josh had a lot to say about what it means to play and how we can create a sense of play in everyday life. We dive into the food system, talking intimately about what it means to invest in our food and in our health. We parse out the difference between lifespan and healthspan and what keeps us accountable in our journeys toward health, and we talk about running businesses together over the last decade and how we approach farming and entrepreneurship as a couple. Our intimate conversation leads us in and out of the intricacies of growing and evolving together. And throughout the conversation, is a thread of joy, and what it means to cultivate it. This conversation is as surprising and gentle as it is intimate. We also talk about: Raising animals Finding presence and focus Dangerous jobs Resources: Instagram: @thejoshofalltrades Groundworkcollective.com westerndaughters.com Current Discounts for GW listeners: 10% off Hama Hama Oysters using code: GroundWork10 through 5/31 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15 Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
02:32:51
May 17, 2022
Salt of the Earth with Nancy Bruns of JQ Dickinson Salt-works
“You are not a drop in the ocean; you are the entire ocean in a drop.” - Rumi. Salt is not just a seasoning on your table - it is the currency of cells, the crystal of life. This podcast unfolds in two parts. At the beginning is a mini-dive into salt with Kate. Why does salt matter so much? From history, to our biology, salt has an important place at the table. In the second part, an interview with Nancy Bruns of JQ Dickinson Salt-Works in West Virginia. Nancy shares the story of her 7th generation salt operation in the Kanawha valley in Appalachia where they make salt by hand using the power of the sun and the briny waters of an ancient underground ocean. We explore the process of making salt and how it connects us to the land, to our bodies, and to history. The salt-making process The importance of trace minerals The difference between JQD salt and sea salt A brief history of salt & so much more Resources: Instagram: @jqdsalt  https://www.jqdsalt.com Further Reading: Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky The Salt Fix by James DiNicolantonio Current Discounts for GW listeners: 10% off Hama Hama Oysters using code: GroundWork10 through 5/31 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15 Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:39:26
May 10, 2022
Innate Magic with Chelsea Connor
Chelsea Connor is one of those people who exudes the kind of magic that leads you back home to yourself. Combining science, research, and an innate understanding of the nervous system, our conversation is a journey about the art of slowing down, learning to listen to our bodies, and beginning to heal our nervous systems. We deep dive into the nervous system, exploring physiology alongside a more intuitive approach to how we might begin to heal starting with looking to our childhood passions as a gateway to that healing journey. We don’t leave the conversation there, though, and we meander through topics like moving from the city to a rural environment and all that entails, finding who you are without society’s perceptions, the art of slowing down, understanding nervous systems through the lens of our relationship with our parents (and horses!), and so much more. Chelsea is not just a wealth of information but feels like a bright light in the health space, bringing a sense of joy and play to her work and a felt sense of magic to the world of our nervous systems. This conversation is a fun one! We Also Talk About Our experiences as first-time horse owners Cacao and tapping into ritual Nourishment for body and mind EMFs and grounding Breathwork Attunement Resources: Instagram: @houseofnourishment kismetcacao.com Further Reading: Call of the Wild by Kimberly Ann Johnson Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Current Discounts for GW listeners: 10% off Hama Hama Oysters using code: GroundWork10 through 5/31 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15 Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
02:28:14
May 03, 2022
Tides of Time and Oysters with Lissa Monberg
Lissa Monberg is a fifth generation farmer in Washington’s Olympic Peninsula, where she is steward to Hama Hama Oysters and Hama Hama Logging. We talk about natural resource management and the beautiful relationship between agriculture and aquaculture. Hama Hama celebrates their centennial this year, and we explore the ways in which a business changes over a century, going from resource extraction to resource sustainability to restorative stewardship. We explore plenty about the oysters Hama Hama is known for and a little about the clams we should be eating more of. We talk about cycles large and small as Lissa guides us through the seasons of a multi-generational business and the tidal cycles of the oyster business. This podcast illuminates aquaculture and the way an oyster so perfectly reflects its ecosystem back to us through flavor but it is also the story of how time changes a place and the people who call it home. GroundWork10 will get you a 10% discount on an order from Hama Hama through 5/31/22! We highly recommend that you have some oysters, clams, and mussels shipped right to your doorstep. We Also Talk About Clams clams clams! The meditation we find in work Diversified farms Stewardship and family businesses Resources: Instagram: @hamahamaoysters Hamahamaoysters.com How to shuck straight from Hama Hama Further Reading: The Living Shore by Rowan Jacobsen  A Geography of Oysters by Rowan Jacobsen  The Oysters of Locmariaquer by Eleanor Clark Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:01:00
April 26, 2022
Chasing Water with Heather Hansman
Heather Hansman knows a thing or two about water. Adventurer, writer, and journalist, Heather Hansman embarked on a journey some years ago to raft the length of the Green River from the headwaters in Wyoming down through Utah. Along the way, she looked at shareholders along the length of the river: ranchers and ag, fisheries and fisherman, outdoorsmen and recreational users, rural and urban endeavors - and she puts it all together in her beautiful book Down River. Heather has also recently published Powder Days and her wonderful essays are found in publications from Outside to Scientific American. We talk a lot about water in the West - especially as the 100 year anniversary of the Colorado River Compact, which determined how the Colorado River water would be divided between 7 states, comes around this year. We dive into where that compact stands now and the issues facing water rights in the West now and in coming years. We also talk about how we connect to water - which is often through our time in nature. We dig into Heather’s adventures, connection to nature,  seasonal living, and so much more. We Also Talk About Our brains and bodies on nature - from cold plunges and beyond How to connect to local water initiatives & so much more! Resources: Instagram: @hhansman Heatherhansman.com Scott Carney’s The Wedge Wintering by Catherine May Further Reading: Down River by Heather Hansman Powder Days by Heather Hansman Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:25:44
April 19, 2022
Liquid Gold + Living Out Your Dharma with Lynn Goodwin and Kim Welch
Lynn Goodwin and Kim Welch are helping others connect to their health, the land, and their dharma - and they started with ghee. Farmtrue founders Lynn and Kim wanted to share the Ayurvedic principles that had changed their lives and knew that ghee was the perfect gateway - but their business stretches far beyond their 100% grass-fed and grass-finished ghee. In this episode, we let a lot of truths bubble up to the surface. We talk about living in connection with the seasons and nature and the basics of Ayurveda. We have a very open conversation about what it means to really source from local farmers and to be true to your mission as a business. We get vulnerable about the triumphs, hardships, and evolution of small business ownership. Not to mention - a deep dive into fat and ghee. We Also Talk About: Finding spirituality and connection in nature Separating your value from your business Living out your dharma Seeking balance and harmony in mind, body, and soil. Resources: Instagram: @farmtrue Farmtrue.com 15% discount on all Farmtrue products with code ‘KATEKAV15’ Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:27:04
April 12, 2022
Chewing the Fat with Brad Marshall
Brad Marshall knows a thing or two about fat. Farmer, butcher, chef, and molecular biologist; Brad has looked at fat through a lot of different lenses. He is known for his work around diets low in polyunsaturated fatty acids, more commonly known as PUFAs. We dig deep on the detrimental effects these are having on human, and even animal, health. Whether looking at PUFAs in vegetable oils or corn and soy fed hogs, we explore just how PUFAs are changing us. We also get to explore how Brad translated his knowledge of PUFAs into his farming practices with pigs, exploring mob rotational grazing pigs and the incredible intuition of a hog’s palate for plants. We look at how the American, and even the global, diet has changed over the years and its implications for health. We dig into the financial model around farming, butcher shops, and the need for financial sustainability to exist alongside environmental sustainability. Not to mention - we have a fair bit of fun - put two butchers and farmers in a conversation and watch as Brad breaks down a complicated topic with a lot of levity. This is a great episode for those that want to dig really deep into the science of fat and the art of raising pigs. We Also Talk About History of the food system The Croissant Diet & more Resources: Instagram: @fire_inabottle Twitter: @fire_bottle Fireinabottle.net https://firebrandmeats.com Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com Episode Webpage
02:07:25
April 05, 2022
Reciprocal Living with Shele Jessee
Shele Jessee is a polymath. Rancher, shepherd, tanner, fashion designer, entrepreneur, and beyond, Shele Jessee of Hollow Bone shares a peek into her philosophy and life in the Central Coast of California. We talk about her journey back to the land and into the world of ranching alongside stories around the state of drought and trust in rural communities in the West. Shele weaves the magic of turning her relationship with nature tactile through hide tanning and slow fashion. We dive into reciprocal relationships - both on and off the land. Shele shares her ideas around creating and finding beauty in the every day - ideas that I’m sure will resonate with all listeners. We Also Talk About Ranching on leased land Supply chains Intuition and living a life full of feeling Entrepreneurship Resources: Instagram: @_hollowbone_ hollowboneonline.com Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:55:36
March 29, 2022
Farming with Intention with Alicia Brown
Alicia Brown is rooted in intention and it translates to every aspect of her farm, Edible Uprising, in Troy, NY. In this podcast, we start from the ground up, exploring how Alicia and her husband, Ben, approached starting a vegetable farm with over 150 weekly CSA  shares on just an acre of land. It all starts with soil, and we cover the way they care for the soil food web first on their farm. The result? The most delicious and nutrient dense vegetables and vibrant flowers you’ve ever seen. And it’s no coincidence - we discuss how the decline in soil health has directly correlated to the decline in nutrient density in our food. We also dive into what it means to run a human powered farm and to care for our bodies as farmers, what regenerating farmland across the country might look like, about efficiency and functionality and where beauty fits in, and so much more. We Also Talk About Human powered farming Looking at soil testing The loss of nutrients in soil and food Resources: Instagram: @edibleuprisingfarm Edibleuprisingfarm.com Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm Near You: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:29:12
March 29, 2022
The Strenuous Life with Ed Roberson
Ed Roberson, host of the Mountain and Prairie podcast and Conservation Director at the Palmer Land Conservancy, shares his journey through both his personal and professional life. We weave through Ed’s career in real estate that led him into conservation work in the West and his personal evolution and exploration in everything from ultramarathons to meditation. Ed is as inspiring as he is dynamic, as dedicated a father as he is a storyteller, and as voracious a reader as he is a conservationist. We Also Talk About Meditation, breathwork, running Creating a practice around reading Rising above distraction Teddy Roosevelt Water rights in the West Conservation work Resources: Instagram: @mtnprairie Podcast/Book Recs/Good News in the West: mountainandprairie.com Show Links: Free Will by Sam Harris Strenuous Life Speech by Theodore Roosevelt The Nature Fix by Florence Williams  Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm Near You: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:25:56
March 29, 2022
Laying the Ground Work with Kate Kavanaugh
In this inaugural solo episode, I cover my personal journey while weaving in the themes of mind, body, and soil that we’ll explore in future episodes. I talk about how my curiosity around nature and the meat industry led me to a career in regenerative agriculture, the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, and how working with regenerative farms and seeing nature’s incredible resiliency taught me about my own resiliency. This first episode is part my own human journey, part history of agriculture, and part the mirror that nature holds up for us to find our own nature. Resources: Instagram: @kate_kavanaugh Westerndaughters.com, nearhome.groundworkcollective.com Join the Ground Work Collective: Instagram: @groundworkcollective Find a Farm Near You: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com More: groundworkcollective.com Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer Episode Webpage
01:40:18
March 29, 2022
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March 19, 2022