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In Episode 34, I bring back Jesse who is going to give us a more in-depth look at his life working in the prison and actual prisoners. We also cover some crazy instances involving affairs between prison staff and the prisoners, teachers pushing their luck, people getting caught with things up their asses, and prisoner hospital visits. We also take a deeper look into Jesse's rough past and his own brushes with the law. If you're interested in being a guest on the podcast or have any questions regarding an episode, email me at Themthatandthis@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram.

In Episode 33, I interview a returning Edward. This time we talk about his job as a special needs teacher. While some might think it's a breeze, Edward talks about how dangerous, disgusting and strange it can really get. If you're interested in being a guest on the podcast or have any questions regarding an episode, email me at Themthatandthis@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram.

In episode 32, I interview Jesse educates prisoners at a private prison in Southern California. He talks about the prisoners, their hopes for the future, the dim reality they're likely in for and he gives some insights about the California prison system as a whole. This was a very interesting interview and there is definitely a fair share of crazy stories. If you're interested in being a guest on the podcast or have any questions regarding an episode, email me at Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

In episode 31, I talk to Becca about her years being fat. Since the early years of her childhood, she had always been on the heavy side. Today we go on a waddle to remember, as we explore how her life was growing up fat. She talks about the events leading to her fatness, the way she felt as a fat teen, her ongoing battle with bulimia and her weight-loss journey. Becca slimmed down once in 2014, gained it all back and has again slimmed down. This is her journey. If you're interested in following us or being a guest on the podcast, email me at Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

In Episode 30, I'm joined again with my old high school friend Edward and this time we talk about his 15-year-old crush on Sara. If anyone knows Edward, it is very likely they've heard him talk about Sara and what this person has meant to him. That said, being in unrequited love with someone for so long is on the extreme side and I want to get to the bottom of this. How did this seemingly average woman get this guy hooked for so long? Was she cute and bubbly? Sure. But is she seriously worth all the thoughts and dreams? Edward takes me on a trip back in time to tell me the whole story. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Outro Music: "Ring My Bell" By DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince

On episode 29, I talk to Edward about his life as a homeless person. We first met in 2001 and were good friends in high school and the years that followed. The last time I saw or even talked to him was probably in 2015. About two months ago, he messaged me on Instagram and I found out that he has spent the last two years of his life homeless and living out of his car. I knew then that I had to get to the bottom of his story and have him on the podcast. If you're curious about homeless life in Southern California, the mystery gets completely cracked here. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Outro Music: "Mr. Wendal" By Arrested Development 

Episode 28 introduces us to Victoria. While trivial family matters are nothing new for most of us, Victoria has family issues unlike anything I've ever heard. From her first memory of being abandoned by her grandma in a Siberian forest to being manipulated and beat by her mother for decades, the last 25 years of Victoria's life have been pure torment. You can hear her whole graphic story here. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Outro Music: "Old Like You" By Captain Ahab

Them, That and This is back! In episode 26, I get into a sticky situation and interview Matt about his addiction to pornography. He talks about first jerks, six-hour Pornhub sessions, the kind of porn he loved, and the toll it took on his relationships and life. As of today, porn's grasp on Matt has loosened significantly, but the looming threat is always there. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Outro Music: "Jerkin' Back 'N' Forth" By Devo

In episode 25, I interview a Tel Aviv dominatrix by the name of Shelly. I braved my way into her dungeon and got the scoop on how she went from an accountant to a dominatrix. She further explains what BDSM means to her, talks about some problematic clients and tells some crazy stories. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Master and Servant" By Depeche Mode

Outro Music: "Venus in Furs" By The Velvet Underground

Episode 24 introduces Aws. After few hard years living under the American invasion of Baghdad, Aws and his family fled Iraq and faced new struggles as refugees in Turkey. The life of a refugee is often one of hopelessness and despair. However, Aws decided to do something amazing with his situation and despite some dangerous situations and even worse possibilities, he has dedicated the last five years of working to help refugees and LGBTQ refugees in Istanbul. He tells his whole story here. If you'd like to donate to his cause or share it, please look up United Hands For Refugees on Facebook. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Mehmet Emmi" By Selda Bağcan

Outro Music: "Spirit (Does Anybody Care?)" By Force One Network

On Episode 23, we welcome my good friend Marcos back to the podcast. I wanted to talk about George Floyd, the protests and the overall pandemonium that's taking America by storm. My opinion alone doesn't amount to much here. I've been living in Israel and feel pretty detached from America these days. However, Marcos isn't detached from it. He's completely up to date on the current happenings in the US and has even been to his fair share of protests. With the help of Marcos, I go into the protest and the overall feeling of what it is to be black in America. If you enjoyed this episode and want hear more about Marcos, check out episode 9. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Ball of Confusion (That's What the World Is Today)" By The Temptations

Outro Music: "Fuck Tha Police" By N.W.A.

Episode 22 takes us into the realm of stalking and harassment. I first talk to my friend and fellow Angeleno Nicole who tells the suspenseful and horrifying tale of her creepy landlord. She also talks about the hard time she's had adapting to Israel and the horrible way people often treat her. After that, I talk to my old high school friend Becca. She shares about how her ex-boyfriend went from lover to obsessed psycho in the span of a couple of months. Brace yourself for this wild and thrilling ride. Have any cool stalking stories? Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Walking Down Your Street" By The Bangles

Outro Music: "One Way or Another" By Blondie

Episode 21 takes us back to the year 2009. My old friend Joseph turned Scientologist on us and we saw this seemingly normal person take a turn for the strange. One thing led to another and after a few months of association, he signed a one billion year Sea Org contract and was basically held captive in Scientology's Los Angeles headquarters. That's when I and my other friend decided it was time to bust into the joint and kidnap our lost friend. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Hangin' Round" By Lou Reed

Outro Music: "Daniel" By Elton John

In episode 20, I chat with my old high school friend Becca. Despite not seeing her in years, we have one thing in common and that's living in haunted houses. While I lived in a haunted house for three years, she's been living in one for nearly three decades. She shares some notable poltergeist stories, things going missing, sightings, the war her dad has waged with it, and the time in spoke with her friend. We also talk out of body experiences, my childhood hauntings and freaky stories told by friends. There are also ghost babies!! Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Something in My House" By Dead Or Alive

Outro Music: "Somebody's Watching Me" By Rockwell

I honestly didn't plan on talking about the coronavirus again. However, last Friday at about three in the morning my phone aggressively vibrated several times over. I couldn't imagine who'd be messaging me so late. Unfortunately, it ended up being just Tommaso and what he left for me was a slew of two-minute long voice messages. Half-asleep, I heard a very frantic Tommaso talking corona conspiracy. He painted a picture of dim possibilities that I knew needed to be on the podcast. This wasn't just anyone talking, but Tommaso, a very level headed person.  We talk his conspiracies and the mental suffering that we're feeling from being quarantined for so long. Feel free to send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Baroque" By Michael Galasso

Outro Music: "Come Ho Fatto" By Faydan AKA Tommaso

In episode 18, I talk to my hometown friend Rozco about his puppy play fetish. We discuss how he got into puppy play, the different roles one can have in the puppy play sphere, the role he has in his puppy pack, the vast puppy play scene, the puppy friendly bars, the conventions, the happenings of a puppy behind closed doors, how real dogs interact with puppy play people and the beauty of falling into the puppy mindset. Not going to lie, he made puppy play sound like a really good time. One can even compare it to something like meditation. Send any questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Atomic Dog" By George Clinton

Outro Music: "I Wanna Be Your Dog" By Joan Jett and the Blackhearts

This week on Them, That and This, I'm talking with my friend Tal. It took nearly two years of friendship for her to tell me that she was a sex camgirl and former stripper. Mind blown! Of course, I had to have her on the podcast. We talk about how she got into the lifestyle, the major upsides of camgirling, the downsides, the clients, the undercover camgirl community, why she retired after years of camming and the fast life of Tel Aviv strippers. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "The Stripper" By David Rose

Outro Music: "Me So Horny" By 2 Live Crew

In episode 15, I take Them, That and This fans back to 2011. I was 22 and just happened to be in Egypt when the Arab Spring broke out. While most travelers ditched the scene, I threw myself into the middle of the madness and for five days experienced pure chaotic bliss. Here's what I saw, what I did and how I felt. I'm joined by Russia's Paulina, as she gives her opinions and tells stories about her near brushes with death and tragedy. We also touch on the topic of aging and the differences between 31 and 21. Would I throw myself into a revolution today? Listen and find out. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Egypt, Egypt" By The Egyptian Lover

Outro Music: "Open Sesame" By Kool & The Gang

Italy's Tommaso returns for an hour of quarantine positivity. In a time when you can't turn on your television or computer without hearing a tragic or horrifying story, we talk about the upside of COVID 19. Quarantine doesn't have to be a time of becoming numb, detached, depressed and lonesome. Your isolation can be full of self-realization, personal growth and discovering lost appreciations. We share our own quarantine stories and comb through some other topics. For instance, you can hear about what I learned from my departed foster dog, Luna. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "I'm Sorry" By Jon Barba

Outro Music: "Harsh Tokes and Bong Jokes" By Your Heart Breaks

This week I talk with Mutually Awkward Podcast host Paige. We discuss her recent office dramas, the chill life in Switzerland compared to the fastpaced life in Hong Kong, Los Angeles, our gripes with the American system, the ever so popular coronavirus, druggies and homeless people and a homeless Swiss man named Blanket Jesus who died and didn't come back after three days. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Awkward" By Fidlar

Outro Music: "Office Drone" by The Monolators

This week I have my good friend Tommaso on the podcast. He's coming straight out of Treviso, Italy, which is one of the places that has been hit hardest by the Coronavirus. Being in the heart of it all, he's gotten an up, close and personal look at hysteria and chaos that has taken over his region. Some of what he says is shocking, surprising and the complete opposite of what we're all hearing on the media. If you have any interest in the madness that's sweeping over our world right now, you definitely won't want to miss this. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Nel blu, dipinto di blu" By Domenico Modugno

Outro Music: "Lazy Mary" by Lou Monte

To say the least, Eran's life has been a journey. From his young days growing up in China, to him trying to find himself in Israel. Since we first met in 2014, I feel like I've known two Erans. There was him before his 10 month trip to Australia in 2017 and him after this trip. He had what can only be described as a spiritual awakening. What followed was him trying to settle back into life in Israel. Throughout the podcast we talk about his life in the desert, spiritual stuff, our acid trips, the time he lived on the Kibbutz and basically cover what really matters in this life. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Return To Innocence" By Enigma

Outro Music: "Higher" by Anna RF

Professional Dancer, teacher and amazing friend. This week's guest is Marcos, one of my dearest friends even today. From the broken down halls of Baldwin Park High School to our 2012 reunion in Lubbock, Texas, I always looked at Marcos as someone who had his head on straight and was always 100% driven to make his dreams come true. Something my lazy ass truly lacked. However, even he had his wild times. Between 2009 and 2012, Marcos vanished from our lives and became somewhat of a mystery. However, one can only be so mysterious in the age of social media. He appeared online to have had found Jesus and was pictured wearing a shirt that read ''ex-homosexual.'' I, we and I'm guessing anyone who knew him at the time was befuddled by it. But by the time our paths recrossed, he was back to normal and seemed to have embraced his identity. Today, I'm getting the story directly from Marcos. What was going on in his life during that time and why did he feel the need to suddenly reject a part of himself and embrace the Jesus? Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Escape (The Piña Colada Song)" By Rupert Holmes

Outro Music: "All My Ex's Live In Texas" by George Strait

This week's guest is my old college friend Andy Ha. It's Valentine's Day and annually on this day, I think back for at least a second to a controversial video Andy made back in 2011 or 2010. It basically let the masses know why it sucked to be an Asian male on Valentine's Day. I don't know if this is particularly true, but I give him the airwaves to explain how he feels about the video ten years later. He tells me about the romantic struggles of being an Asian male, growing up in Monterey Park, California, Chinese/American life, his not so great travels, the Asian hierarchy and his struggles with the opposite sex. Strap yourselves in, because this going to be a bumpy ride. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Erotic City" By Prince

Outro Music: “Dim Sum Girl” by Notorious MSG

This week's guest is my good friend Andrey who originally hails from Yekaterinburg, Russia. We talk a little about life here in Israel, his work on the radio, being in bands for twenty years, the rockstar lifestyle, acid trips, dodging service in the Russian army and staying in an insane asylum for a month, what the army does to a person, Naama, the Israeli who was held in a Russian prison and a sole prostitute in a Russian man's collective. Fair warning! I had an audio issue with this one. While everything is audible, the sound is a little off balance. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro Music: "Cleverly Disguised" By JJAMZ

Outro Music: “Rasputin” by Boney M

It's a podcast crossover extravaganza! The Them, That and This podcast collides with my older brother Vince's podcast, Mutually Awkward. The two of us talk about the coronavirus and him being on lockdown in his Beijing apartment. We also have disagreements about Star Wars, disagreements about Kobe, disagreements about having families, my old cohost vanishing into thin air, the uncertain future of my podcast, expectations for the future, meditation and really not wanting a mentally ill child. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com

Intro Music: "Buttersaw" By Pizza! 

Outro Music: “On The Radio” by Eazy E

SPECIAL GUEST: Yuval! With Faith away on holiday, Michael introduces Yuval to the podcast. They talk first meetings, Yuval's controversial political stance, cat lives they may have ruined, Yuval's recent breakup and his seed living in Canada, life as roommates, Yuval committing what could have been a #METOO years ago and getting a reply from the friend who rushed out of car sex on that fateful skidrow night a decade ago. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com

Intro Music: "Blue Genes" By Neverever 

Outro Music: “And It's Over 1” by Moses Campbell

Faith and Michael talk about Michael doing nothing on his birthday, the lost art of cruising, the youthful days of disrespecting homeless people and hookers, the social media explosion, the next generation, creepy church communities and Joseph. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com

Intro Music: "Trans Anthro" By Skull Tape (Michael's pick)

Outro Music: “Jackson” by Johnny Cash and June Carter (Faith’s pick)

Faith and Michael talk about the new decade, fucked up reoccurring dreams, the tortured spirits of dead grandparents, expectations, Faith's extreme religious past, cancel culture and anxiety. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com

Intro Music: "Pocket Pool" By Killer Pussy (Michael's pick) 

Outro Music: “S.O.B.” by Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats (Faith’s pick)

Michael and Faith explore the dark secret that inspired the birth of the Them, That and This podcast, the people they treated like garbage, Faith's country roots, how they both ended up in Israel, Michael's promised revenge on a dog that attacked him in Texas and Faith's dog Gin and her fear of Michael. Send questions or comments to Themthatandthis@gmail.com.

Intro: “Charm School” by Bishop Allen

Outro: "Inner City" By So Many Wizards