Thereafter
By Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier
ThereafterApr 23, 2024
102 - Phil Drysdale | The Data on Deconstruction and a Bit On Spiral Dynamics
This week on the pod we bring you a conversation with Phil Drysdale. For over a decade Phil has been sitting with people as they navigate the difficult process of deconstructing their faith. As well as doing research on the phenomenon. Check out all his work at https://www.phildrysdale.com/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
101 - @Transvangelical Returns | Our Reaction When The Straight White Guy Changes His Mind
Today we are releasing a more impromptu conversation that we got to have with our dear friend @Transvangelical about the ways we react when prominent straight white men in evangelicalism decide to become affirming of the LGBTQ+. Fort those who may have missed our previous conversation with Transvangelical on the pod make sure to scroll back and check out her episode. And don't forget to give her a follow over on Twitter https://twitter.com/transvangelical
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
100 - Sarah McCammon | Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church
This week we're so grateful to be sitting down with Sarah McCammon. Sarah is the author of the newly released book The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church. She is a National Political Correspondent for NPR and cohost of The NPR Politics Podcast. Her work focuses on political, social and cultural divides in America, including the intersections of politics and religion, reproductive rights, and the conservative movement. She is also a frequent guest host for NPR news magazines and has appeared on the BBC, CNN, PBS, and MSNBC. During the 2016 election cycle, Sarah was NPR’s lead political reporter assigned to the Donald Trump campaign and previously reported for NPR Member stations in Georgia, Iowa, and Nebraska. She lives in Norfolk, Virginia with her husband and two children.
Subscribe to her substack at: https://substack.com/@sarahmccammon
or follow her on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/sarahmccammon
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
099 - @Transvangelical | Transition, Sex Work and Reclaiming Our Sexuality Through Better Theology
On today's episode we sit down with our guest Alycea, better known around the web as @Transvangelical. Alycea is a trans theologian, linguist, Bible translator, and sex worker. Much of her work focuses on reclaiming sexuality as an integral part of who we are. Make sure to go give her a follow in all the places! You can find links to all her things at https://www.transvangelical.com/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
098 - Brandon Flanery | Stumbling - A Sassy Story About Coming Out of Evangelicalism
On this weeks episode of the pod we sit down with Brandon Flanery! We are so excited to share this episode with you. Brandon's new book is out now and available everywhere! You can find links to follow Brandon everywhere and get a copy of his book at his website: https://brandonflanery.com/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
097 - #ContentWarningEvent | A Recap and Debrief From the First Annual Content Warning Weekend
This week we don't have a guest. It's just Meghan and Cortland sitting down to chat about the Content Warning Event which happened over President's Day weekend in Portland, OR. If you missed attending virtually, a replay copy of the recorded sessions will be available soon via ContentWarningEvent.com.
Also, be on the lookout for details about next years Content Warning Event which we announced will be President's Day Weekend 2025 in Atlanta, GA.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
096 - Carly Butler | Apocalypse Child - Living Through The End Of The World
This week on the pod we have Carly Butler on to talk about her soon to be released book Apocalypse Child. We're so grateful to have this chance to chat with her and are so excited to be sharing it with you! You can find all the links to pre-order the book and follow her on all the socials at: https://linktr.ee/carlymbutton
Remember, that there's still time to register for the #ContentWarningEvent (both Virtually and In Person). You can register to attend at https://www.contentwarningevent.com/
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode. If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to https://www.contentwarningevent.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
095 - @TheSnarkyGent Returns | The Evangelical Training Program Industrial Complex Part 2
Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod (again!) to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 2 of our conversation!
Remember, that there's still time to register for the #ContentWarningEvent (both Virtually and In Person). You can register to attend at https://www.contentwarningevent.com/
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode. If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to https://www.contentwarningevent.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
094 - @TheSnarkyGent Returns | The Evangelical Training Program Industrial Complex Part 1
Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 1 of our conversation! We had so much to talk about we had to break it up. Look out for part 2 next week!
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode. If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to https://www.contentwarningevent.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
093 - Trey Ferguson | Theologizin’ Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly
This week we sit down with Trey Ferguson (known to many of us as PastorTrey05)! We're so excited to share this conversation with you and hope you take a moment to visit https://www.pastortrey05.com/book and pre-order a copy of his soon to be released book!
And don't forget to follow @PastorTrey05 across all the socials!
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode. If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to https://www.contentwarningevent.com/ If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
092 - Meghan & Cortland | Why We Deconstruct
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to www.contentwarningevent.com/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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091 - Flamy Grant | The Shame-Slaying, Hip-Swaying, Singing-Songwriting Drag Queen
We are so sorry this is out late! But we are so very excited to be releasing this episode with Flamy Grant!
In an effort to get it out ASAP I'm going to make the show notes here short so we can get get this published and have you enjoying it right away!
You can check out Flamy's Kickstarter at: https://KickFlamy.com
or visit her website https://www.flamygrant.com/ for links to all the things!
If you're interested in attending the event we talk about in the beginning of the episode go to https://www.contentwarningevent.com/
If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
090 - Will (@Heretical_Theology) Returns | Gender, Witchcraft, and Our Personal Evolution of Beliefs
This week we have a return guest!! Will from episode 013 returns to the show for an amazing conversation! Don't forget to give Will a follow over on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/heretical_theology/ and leave them a comment telling them you found them through the pod!
Also, for those interested in the event we mention at several points in the episode, you can check out all the info we've released so far along with registering for your spot to join us at ContentWarningEvent.com.
We can't wait to hang out with so many of you in person and online at the event this coming February!
If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
089 - Brittany Bruton | Family Dynamics, Chronic Illness, and Navigating Evolving Beliefs
This week on the pod we are so grateful for the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Brittany Bruton! Brittany has been a dear friend of ours since before we were podcasting and we've wanted to have her on the pod for so long now! Make sure you give her a follow over on IG at: https://www.instagram.com/brittnbloom/
Also, if you're looking for a link to the podcast about IHOPKC that Cortland mentioned in the intro, it can be found HERE: https://frequencypodcastnetwork.com/podcasts/heaven-bent/
If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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088 - Meghan & Cortland | Deconstruction Events, Community Building, and Platform Culture
No guest this week. Cortland and Meghan sit down to chat in a shorter episode than usual. We cover all kinds of topics coming off a weekend of getting to hang out IRL. Get into it!
If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
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087 - @AlmightyGod | Deconstruction, Satire, and The Benefits of Blasphemy
What an honor to have the one and only Almighty God on the pod!
They, of course, need no introduction so let's all just jump in to the interview!
Don't forget to follow God around the socials:
on Twitter: https://twitter.com/almightygod
on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@real_almightygod
on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/almightygod.bsky.social
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
086 - Matthias Roberts | Holy Runaways
We are so excited to be sharing our conversation with Matthias Roberts on the pod today! Matthias (he/him) is a psychotherapist specializing in religious and spiritual trauma and the author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms. He hosts Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being and holds two master’s degrees from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology, one in theology and culture, and one in counseling psychology. His work has been featured by O: The Oprah Magazine, Bustle, Woman’s Day, Sojourners, The Seattle Times, and many others. He lives in Seattle.
His new book "Holy Runaways" was just released on October 3rd and is now available wherever books are sold! You can find links to follow Matthias around the web through his website https://matthiasroberts.com
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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085 - Season 4 Premier! | Meghan & Cortland Chat About What's Next
Meghan and Cortland chat about what we've been up to and what we have planned for season 4. We're so excited for the conversations we're going to be having and sharing with all of you this season!
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 4
Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we can stay connected with listeners even while on our break between seasons!
We’ll be back with full episodes including guest interview when we launch Season 4 or the pod this fall!
Until then, enjoy this summer series of mini-sodes!
As you heard in the ad at the beginning of the episode our podcast network Dauntless Media has a Discord server that we’d love for you to join!
You can join the Dauntless server through this link: https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 3
Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we can stay connected with listeners even while on our break between seasons!
We’ll be back with full episodes including guest interview when we launch Season 4 or the pod this fall!
Until then, enjoy this summer series of mini-sodes!
As you heard in the ad at the beginning of the episode our podcast network Dauntless Media has a Discord server that we’d love for you to join!
You can join the Dauntless server through this link: https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLifeInstagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 2
Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we can stay connected with listeners even while on our break between seasons!
We’ll be back with full episodes including guest interview when we launch Season 4 or the pod this fall!
Until then, enjoy this summer series of mini-sodes!
If you're looking for the podcast interview with Meghan she mentioned in the episode you can find it here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ZH3PS1FT6Bk3TVt4zozj6?si=pyhHyDWAQdOMwLmUqO7oqA
As you heard in the ad at the beginning of the episode our podcast network Dauntless Media has a Discord server that we’d love for you to join!
You can join the Dauntless server through this link: https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLifeInstagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 1
Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we can stay connected with listeners even while on our break between seasons!
We’ll be back with full episodes including guest interview when we launch Season 4 or the pod this fall!
Until then, enjoy this summer series of mini-sodes!
As you heard in the ad at the beginning of the episode our podcast network Dauntless Media has a Discord server that we’d love for you to join!
You can join the Dauntless server through this link: https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
084 - Erica Smith | Sex Ed & The Purity Culture Dropout
This week on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Erica Smith! Erica, is an award winning sexuality educator and consultant with over 20 years of experience. Throughout her career, she has provided comprehensive sex education and advocacy to young women and LGBTQ+ youth in Philadelphia’s juvenile justice system, worked in abortion care, and supported HIV+ and transgender adolescents and their families. In 2019, she developed the Purity Culture Dropout™️ Program to help people learn all of the sex education that they missed growing up in purity culture- sex ed that is accurate, queer inclusive, trauma informed, compassionate, and comprehensive. She has since worked with hundreds of people to help them learn about healthy sexuality after high control religion.
Erica lives in Philadelphia with her partner and house full of rescue animals.
You can connect with Erica over on her website https://PurityCultureDropout.com
And don’t forget to give her a follow over on IG and Twitter.
https://www.instagram.com/ericasmith.sex.ed/
https://twitter.com/ericasmithsexed
As always, if you want to skip over the #TwitBits portion of our intro and jump straight into the interview you can skip to 16:10.
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083 - Benjamin Perry | Cry Baby - Why Our Tears Matter
We are so excited to share our interview with Benjamin Perry on today’s episode! Benjamin Perry is a minister at Middle Church and an award-winning writer whose work has appeared in outlets like The Washington Post, Slate, Sojourners, and Bustle. With a degree in psychology from SUNY Geneseo and an MDiv from Union Theological Seminary, Perry has worked as an organizer with the New York chapter of the Poor People's Campaign and as an editor at Time, Inc. Perry has appeared on MSNBC, Al Jazeera, and NY1, and is the editor of the Queer Faith photojournalism series. He and his spouse, Erin Mayer, live with his best friend and brother in Maine, nurturing a small apple orchard.
You can order directly from the publisher HERE: https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506485119/Cry-Baby
And don’t forget to follow Ben over on the socials at:
https://twitter.com/FaithfullyBP
https://instagram.com/FaithfullyBP
If you want to skip over the #TwitBits portion of our intro and jump straight into the interview you can skip to 21:00.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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082 - Meghan & Cortland Talk Harm Reduction
No guest interview on today’s episode! Cortland and Meghan talk about harm reduction, shared ethics beyond deconstruction, and the contrast with some of the large conservative platforms that exist in harmful and toxic ways. A content warning on this episode as we discuss Steven Crowder and a recent abusive video that surfaced and other aspects of domestic abuse.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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081 - Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers & Chloë Abigail | Growing Up Sex Positive and Parenting Without Shame
We are so excited to share this episode with you! This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers and Chloë Abigail. Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers is a best-selling author, speaker, and researcher on sexual shame and healing religious sexual trauma. She is professor emerita of sexuality, and Marriage & Family Therapy, and the Founder of the Northwest Institute on Intimacy and Inanna Rising. She is the author of: Sex, God, and the Conservative Church – Erasing Shame from Sexual Intimacy and Shameless Parenting – Everything You Need to Raise Shame-free, Confident Kids and Heal Your Shame Too!
With a degree in the sociology of gender, Chloe Abigail is an accomplished and highly sought after editor at the intersection of sexuality, spirituality, and human thriving. She is also Dr. Tina’s daughter. Their favorite past-time is sitting in the hot-tub and discussing all things sexuality, patriarchy, and life in the 21st century.
We know our listeners will love this episode and the insights that come from this dynamic mother/daughter duo. If you want to skip #twitbits and head straight to the interview, jump to 27:20. If you enjoyed this episode, check out Dr. Tina’s website, https://www.tinaschermersellers.com/, which includes links to her books and social media. You can find and follow Chloë Abigail at @TheGrammarGrimoire on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thegrammargrimoire/.
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080 - Community Chat | Hanging Out With Friends of the Pod!
Hosts Cortland and Meghan spend today’s episode hanging out with folx from the Thereafter community. This was a spur of the moment episode celebrating what we love most about making this podcast - the people we get to interact with. The episode is a bit chaotic, but we hope you’ll have as much fun listening as we did making it. We also hope to do this again in the future!
Special thanks to the guests that jumped in to say hello. Please check them out and follow them on social media! Here is their info:
Piper - https://twitter.com/mothsbane https://twitter.com/refuge_faith
Peggy - https://twitter.com/Peggatha
Matt - https://twitter.com/thesnarkygent
Jenny - https://twitter.com/SwearingsCaring
Micah - https://twitter.com/ThisMicahCarve r
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079 - Jenna DeWitt | Asexuality and a Liberative Theology That Includes Everyone
We are so excited to have Jenna DeWitt as our guest today on the pod! Jenna DeWitt (she/her) is a writer, editor, and resource curator. She uses her powers as a sapphic aromantic asexual to advocate for queer belonging in the church and greater awareness of aromanticism and asexuality within affirming theology. Her website, InvisibleCakeSociety.com, provides resources, essays, poetry, and podcast interviews exploring the many facets of queerness, faith evolution, mental health, and more ways people can feel unseen. She lives in sunny Southern California and on Twitter at @Jenna_DeWitt (https://twitter.com/jenna_dewitt).
TW/CW: We do talk a bit about the Nashville shooting, gun violence, and transphobia in our #TwitBits segment at the beginning of the episode. If you are wanting to skip straight to the interview you can jump to 32:00 to get straight into the interview.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
At the end, we mention a science fiction rotation into the deconstruction book club referencing this tweet from a previous guest https://twitter.com/thesnarkygent so please follow Matt to stay up to date with all things book club!
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078 - Justin Gentry | Forced to Tithe and Other Tales of Leaving The Ministry
On today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with Justin Gentry, former pastor and also co-host of two fabulous podcasts: REVcovery and Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk. Justin joins us for #twitbits and a larger conversation about ministry, forced tithing, and the exploitation of church staff and volunteers.
Check out Justin’s podcasts here:
REVcovery: https://www.irreverent.fm/show/revcovery/
Go Home Bible: https://www.irreverent.fm/show/go-home-bible-youre-drunk/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
At the end, we mention a science fiction rotation into the deconstruction book club referencing this tweet from a previous guest https://twitter.com/thesnarkygent so please follow Matt to stay up to date with all things book club!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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077 - Looking Back — Meghan and Cortland Reminisce About The Pod, How We Got Here, & How We’re Evolving
Quick TW/CW up at the top! We do get into some conversation during the TwitBits portion at the beginning of the episode that could be triggering. We discuss sexual assault and rape in regards to the discourse around David and Bathsheba that has been happening on twitter once again. If you are not in a place to hear conversations on this topic this might be one you want to skip.
There is no guest on today’s episode. In addition to #TwitBits we spend the episode reminiscing about some of our favorite moments from the pod so far! We also make a call at the end of the episode for listeners to send us a voice recording of their favorite moments from the pod so far! Those submissions can be submitted via email to hosts@ThereafterPod.com
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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076 - Camille Hernandez | Reclaiming Healing and Liberation
We are so very excited that today’s guest is Camille Hernandez! Camille is an abolitionist, community facilitator, and poet. In all her avenues, she uses care-centered leadership models to help survivors know their voice, be nourished in community, and develop self-compassion practices in order to birth new liberated realities into existence. Her debut book The Hero and the Whore: Reclaiming Healing and Liberation through Stories of Sexual Exploitation in the Bible will be released on November 7, 2023. Make sure to keep an eye out for that pre-order link soon!
Make sure to follow her at all the places listed below:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hellocamilleh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hellocamilleh
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@hellocamilleh
Substack: https://camillehernandez.substack.com
Spoutible: https://spoutible.com/camillehernandez
Website: https://camillehernandez.com
As usual, if you want to jump straight to the interview you can head to 23:20.
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075 - Josephine Jael Jimenez | Speaking of Church - From The One She Was Born Into, to Where She is Now
Today on the pod we sit down with the one and only Josephine Jael Jimenez or as you may know her from around the web @JosieTakesTheWorld. Josie is the host of the Speaking in Church Podcast along with being the a photographer, writer and numerous other amazing things! She is a dear friend of the show and we are so excited to have her on the pod today! Make sure you follow her over on instagram https://www.instagram.com/josietakestheworld/ and on Twitter https://twitter.com/josietakesthe as well as checking out all her work over on her website http://www.josietakestheworld.com/
As always we ramble for a while in the beginning about all the latest things we've seen and heard on the web in our #TwitBits Segment. If you'd like to skip straight to the episode you can jump to 23:00.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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074 - Jennifer C. Martin | Polyamory and The Many Ways We Can Love
Today's guest is the one and only Jennifer C. Martin, and we couldn't be more excited for her to be our Valentine's Day guest! She is a writer and editor living in Richmond, Virginia with her two partners, two children, and two pets. A former Pentecostal and current member of the United Church of Christ, she writes on religion, theology, sexuality, culture, entertainment, parenting, and polyamory. Her work has been featured in Insider, New York Times, Jezebel, Sojourners, Time magazine, and more. You can subscribe to her Substack, Dirtbag Christian, or check out jennifercmartin.com to catch up on all her latest writings and find her on social media. In her free time she loves baking, fermenting things, gaming, binging TV shows, reading, leftist politics, and yoga.
Make sure you follow her on all her socials which can all be found on her LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/jennifercmartin
As always we ramble on at the beginning of the episode for our #TwitBits segment where we talk about the latest social happenings! If you want to skip straight to the interview you can jump ahead to 28:38.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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073 - Marla Taviano | A White Girl Learning and Using Poetry to Process the Change
Today we are honored to have Marla Taviano as our guest on the pod! Marla is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). She's the author of two books of unconventional poetry: unbelieve and jaded. She lives in South Carolina with her four freaking awesome kids. Find out more at marlataviano.com
Don't forget to follow Marla on IG at:
https://www.instagram.com/marlataviano/
Follow her Book account on IG at:
https://www.instagram.com/whitegirllearning/
And on Twitter at:
https://twitter.com/marlataviano
As always Meg and Cortland get into the latest happenings from twitter and around the web in the #TwithBits segment in our intro! If you want to skip straight to the interview with Marla you can jump to 21:15.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Twitter: @ThereafterPod, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
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072 - Kristina Hart | Comedy, Dating, Faith, Singleness, and Being Edgy on The Internet
Today’s guest is Kristina Hart who is one of our favorite follows from around the web! Kristina is a writer, comedian, podcaster, and all around amazing human! On this episode Kristina brings her unique perspective as a Persian woman who grew up in Christianity, began her online career blogging about Christian singleness and has since seen her faith and perspective evolve. She consistently brings an insightful and comedic perspective on topics of faith, womanhood, dating, and more! We promise if you aren’t already in love with Kristina upon starting this episode you will be by the end!
Make sure to follow Kristiana over on her socials on:
Twitter @edgykristina https://twitter.com/edgykristina
Instagram @edgykristinahart https://www.instagram.com/edgykristinahart/
TikTok @edgykristinahart https://www.tiktok.com/@edgykristinahart
Keep an eye out on her socials for her new podcast launching soon! And don’t forget to follow her former podcast “That’s Super Weird” Podcast over on Instagram:
@superweirdpod https://www.instagram.com/superweirdpod/
You can get the T-shirt we mention in the episode HERE: https://www.bonfire.com/kristina-hart-is-self-publishing-a-joke-book/?fbclid=PAAaaYS868u5Gj-tdZ44msXsIowLcgwRNWDCDo4DrmH0QXFK0gOa5ReThk5a8
As usual, if you want to jump straight to the interview you can head to 30:30.
If you want to check out Meghan's sermon she mentioned from GracePointe Nashville you can find the link here: https://twitter.com/thepursuinglife/status/1619105934210654208
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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071 - Shannon TL Kearns | On Queer Theology and an Expansive History of Queerness
Today’s episode is one we’ve been excited to release for awhile. Cortland and Meghan chat with Shannon TL Kearns. A former fundamentalist who became the first openly transgender man ordained to the Old Catholic priesthood, Shannon TL Kearns believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He is the co-founder of QueerTheology.com. His first book In the Margins: A Transgender Man’s Journey With Scripture just released from Eerdmaan’s books. He started and led Uprising Theatre Company for 6 years.
Shannon is a Humanitas New Voices Fellow for 2022 and was a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (in screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops.
His work with Brian G. Murphy at QueerTheology.com has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community.
You can also follow Shannon on Twitter at @shannontlkearns or Instagram at @shannontlkearns. Please also consider supporting Shannon’s work through Patreon at http://www.patreon.com/shannontlkearns
As usual, if you want to jump straight to the interview you can head to 14:57.
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070 - Emily Pfenning | Disability Justice, Intersectionality, and Curated Authenticity
On this episode we chat with Emily Pfenning. Emily is an "almost" Oregon native originally adopted as a baby from India. She works in real estate as the director of operations for a small local team. Emily serves on her office's DEI committee, and several other committees and groups. Outside of the office, she enjoys reading constantly, teaching English through EngIN, leading book groups and workshops on current events and social issues like equity, disability justice, and global corruption as well as serving in local mutual aid efforts, and spending time with her pets and partner.
Emily has a lot of insight into Disability Justice, Intersectionality, and “Curated Authenticity.” We know our listeners will love her perspective, and if you want to jump straight to the interview you can head to 28:30. You can follow Emily on Twitter at @eofallthings and if you’d like to show appreciation for her interview, Emily has suggested making a donation to creators that she learns from - Alicia Crosby Mack (@aliciatcrosby on Twitter) or Imani Barbarin (@imani_barbarin on Twitter).
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, join our Discord server, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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069 - Extended TwitBits with Returning Guest Kevin Nye!
In our first episode of the year we sat down (on New Years Eve) with friend of the show and returning guest, Kevin Nye! We discussed a semi viral tweet he had last week, the epic Greta Thunberg take down of Andrew Tate and more. We jump around quite a bit and have quite a bit of nuanced conversation. As always a reminder that much of what we talk about in these segments is us processing through our evolving thoughts on these topics as they happen in real time. We are constantly getting new information and evolving in the way we think about these conversations happening around the web.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to Apple Podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour. Lastly, if you are wanting to connect more with us and other listeners of the show reach out to us for an invite to join our Discord Server!
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068 - Vy @WyldViolet | Purity Culture, Ethical Porn, & Finding Your True Self
This week on the pod we sit down with Twitter friend and creator Vy (https://twitter.com/WyldViolet). We discuss a lot of different topics along Vy's journey from growing up in evangelical purity culture to finding herself as a lesbian and reclaiming her sexuality through her work as an Only Fans creator. It was such a treat to get time with her and we could have talked for so many more hours! Make sure you go follow her on all her socials and if it's something you're into subscribe to her OF page (currently running a great holiday promotion which she mentions at the end of the episode)!
Find all her links HERE: https://linktr.ee/WyldViolet
You can skip straight to the interview if you want at 20:10.
Also in the intro, Cortland gets a little wound up about the MAGA response to Brittney Griner coming home! In the midst of that he says a few incorrect statements about the two other people we saw used in the racist attacks against Brittney in the wake of her release. A short summary about the two talking points Cortland was mentioning can be found at these two links:
https://twitter.com/yourpal_austin/status/1601304072534966272?s=46&t=1BvtcUNmmkW7iSesn3nRJg
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVyBTjC/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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067 - Paula Stone Williams | Womanhood, Gender Equity, and Evangelical Toxicity
On today’s episode, hosts Cortland and Meghan interview Paula Stone Williams. Paula is an internationally-known speaker on issues of gender equity, LGBTQ advocacy, and religious tolerance. She has been featured in TEDWomen, TEDSummit, the New York Times, Red Table Talk, TEDxMileHigh, the Washington Post, NPR, Good Morning America, CNN, ABC News, PBS, and scores of other media outlets.
Paula has been a keynote speaker for hundreds of corporations, conferences, and universities around the world. Her TED talks have had over seven million views. Paula’s memoir, As A Woman – What I Learned About Power, Sex, and the Patriarchy After I Transitioned was published by Simon & Schuster in June of 2021.
Paula is also one of the founding pastors at Left Hand Church in Longmont, CO which you can find at https://www.lefthandchurch.org/. We know our listeners will appreciate Paula’s insights into evangelicalism, patriarchy, gender equity, and the impact of the recent political climate on transgender people. Please continue to engage with Paula’s work by checking out her website https://paulastonewilliams.com/, and ordering her book at https://paulastonewilliams.com/buy-paulas-book/. You can find Paula on Twitter @ paulaswilliams or on Instagram @ paulastonewilliams
Cortland and Meghan chat briefly in the intro and if you want to jump straight to the interview you can head to 14:35.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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066 - Robert Monson | A Black Theologian Disentangling Faith and Pursuing Softness
This week on the show we talk with writer, theologian, and podcaster Robert Monson (@robertjmonson on Twitter). We are thrilled to share this interview about theology, atheism, spirituality, race, progressivism, and more.
If you enjoy the show, please support Robert’s work! You can subscribe to his substack, join the Patreon for the Three Black Men podcast, and subscribe to both Three Black Men and Black Coffee and Theology Podcasts.
You can also support Robert by sending him money!
Ca$hApp: $RobertMonson
Venmo: Robert-Monson-2
A content warning for our listeners that we do briefly mention the Colorado Springs shooting in #TwitBits. If you want to jump straight to the interview, you can find it at 13:06.
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065 - Heathen Queen | You Don’t Always Have To Be Nice to Heal
We are so excited to be having Jess Heathen Queen on the pod this week. If you are not yet familiar with her work on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and more where have you been? She is an absolute delight and one of our favorite follows from around the web. In this conversation we talk a bit about her story and the work she's been doing helping others to unlearn from their toxic pasts and explore the rich expanse of knowledge surrounding theology, religion, and the world that exists outside of her former evangelical bubble.
Don't forget to follow her across all platforms. You can find links to all her work around the web HERE: https://beacons.ai/queenoftheheathens_
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
As we mentioned in our intro, you can still use the PROMO Code “LEFT” for a discounted ticket to the “Christian Nationalism and the Future of Democracy” event in Denver hosted by our friends at Straight White American Jesus. Get your ticket HERE: https://www.bradonishi.com/nationalism/
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064 - Tim Whitaker TheNewEvangelicals | Pushing Back and Pressing Forward
Today on the pod we sit down with Tim Whitaker from The New Evangelicals. Growing up, Tim always felt at home in evangelical spaces – until years later, when his studying and questions caused him to no longer be welcomed at in his church community. Brokenhearted, but undeterred, Tim continued to pursue a deeper understanding of faith, history, theology and the evangelical church. The more he uncovers, the more he realizes the importance of advocating for the marginalized in the church, exploring the full depth and breadth of Christian faith traditions, and holding toxic churches and leaders accountable.
Find out more about The New Evangelicals through their website at: https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/
Follow on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/thenewevangelicals/
on twitter at: https://twitter.com/newvangelicals
Join the group on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thenewevangelicals/
And on TikTok at: https://www.tiktok.com/@thenewevangelicals
Also, on today's TwitBits intro segment we had a special guest! Our dear friend Matt TheSnarkyGent (https://twitter.com/thesnarkygent) joins us to discuss the current state of twitter and how Elon has no idea what the fuck he's doing!
If you're wanting to skip over the intro and right to our conversation with Tim you can skip to 28:32
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Remember, you can still use the PROMO Code “LEFT” for a discounted ticket to the “Christian Nationalism and the Future of Democracy” event in Denver hosted by our friends at Straight White American Jesus. Get your ticket HERE: https://www.bradonishi.com/nationalism/
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063 - Jo Luehmann & Rabbi Michael Harvey | Christian Supremacy, How it Shapes Us, & Why it Matters
Today on the pod we have the honor of talking with not one but two amazing guests! Returning to the pod is the one and only Jo Luehmann along with the brilliant mind of Rabbi Mike Harvey!
Many of you probably already know Jo Luehmann (she/they), who is a Colombian born and raised writer, documentary producer, and podcaster who moved to the US to get her masters degree in ministry and theology. After 10 years working inside of churches, developing curriculum and teaching classes on theology and doctrine as an ordained pastor; and finding in personal and systemic ways how harmful and abusive the evangelical church is, Jo quit her job and committed to finding spirituality that wasn’t abusive.
Alongside her partner she started the Living Room, a non-profit reclaiming faith and spirituality as expressions that can lead us toward wholeness, healing and heaven on earth. In the summer of 2020 alongside a group of victims and survivors of church abuse, Jo started @doBetterChurch an online space where people abused in churches can be seen, heard, believed and connected to others who can offer tools in their journey toward healing, as well as an initiative to invite churches to do better. In less than 6 weeks the space grew to over 5000 people with over a thousand different reports of abuse submitted.
In 2021 Jo joined a talented team of organizers, artists and developers to create documentaries telling stories from people in the margins of society so that we all can be inspired to create a better world. Their first feature film is set to be released early 2022.
In her podcast, The Living Room with Jo Luehmann, and through her classes, workshops and writing; Jo speaks and teaches about decolonizing faith and theology, as well as the importance of dismantling white supremacy, patriarchy and capitalism both individually and collectively.
Michael E. Harvey is the Amazon bestselling author of Let’s Talk: A Rabbi Speaks to Christians. An ordained rabbi, he has led congregations and served as a hospital chaplain. Rabbi Mike is passionate about social justice, interfaith cooperation, and bringing deep Jewish learning to the lay public. He has followed these passions in serving his community, including founding and directing the Interfaith Council of the Caribbean as well as directing the Interfaith Leaders of Greater Lafayette. He also serves on the rabbinic advisory council of the American Jewish Archives.
When he isn’t writing, Rabbi Mike can be found building community and offering a listening ear in a different kind of congregation: as a bartender in Indiana.
Learn more about Mike by visiting his website https://www.rabbimichaelharvey.com/
And don’t forget to follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RabbiHarvey
Check out Everything Jo is up to via her link tree here: https://linktr.ee/joluehmann
And don’t forget to follow her on Twitter and Instagram:
https://twitter.com/JoLuehmann
https://www.instagram.com/joluehmann/
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062 - Benjamin Faye | When Your Identity is an Intellectual Exercise, Everything's an Argument
On today’s episode we sit down with Benjamin Faye (@HeyThereBenji on IG). Ben has been a favorite follow of ours for a while and we are so excited to have him on the pod to talk about faith, race, and his experience in the American Evangelical Church.
Ben is a writer, speaker, advocate, #exvangelical, and spiritual abuse survivor who is creating content that uses his experience to comfort, challenge, and connect with others. He is the co-host along side @likeablemenace (on IG) of the podcast Important Things with Ben and Carole. https://www.instagram.com/importantthingsbc/?hl=en
You can join their Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/important_things as well as get the merch Ben mentions in the interview at https://www.bonfire.com/store/hello-rebel/.
If you enjoy this episode, SEND BEN MONEY!
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We ramble for quite a bit in our #TwitBits intro today so if you want to skip right to the interview feel free to skip ahead to the 28:25 mark. Another note about our Twitbits intro is that Cortland references “Andrew Peterson” during the conversation and meant Jordan Peterson (oops apologies to anyone named Andrew Peterson).
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
We forgot to mention it in our outro but you can still use the PROMO Code “LEFT” for a discounted ticket to the “Christian Nationalism and the Future of Democracy” event in Denver hosted by our friends at Straight White American Jesus. Get your ticket HERE: https://www.bradonishi.com/nationalism/
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061 - Late Stage Gays | Navigating Life as Grown Up Baby Queers
On today's episode we talk about our experiences with coming out later in life and being newly out baby queers in the world.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Thereafter Patreon! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Remember, PROMO Code for “Christian Nationalism and the Future of Democracy” event in Denver hosted by our friends at Straight White American Jesus is: "Left" and you can register for the event HERE: https://www.bradonishi.com/nationalism/
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060 - Jon Carl Lewis | Sex & the Gay Christian on Sex Positivity
This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Jon Carl Lewis, creator of Sex & the Gay Christian. Jon is a spiritual director that has created space as a gay Christian man for queer Christians that are seeking to live an integrated sexual and spirtiual life. Jon shares a bit of his history and upbringing, and then chats about sex positivity, “Biblical” sexual ethics, and how individuals discover their sexuality and spirituality. Please check out Jon’s website, and give him a follow @sexgaychristian on Twitter. Jon’s website offers information about spiritual direction, his book project, several LGBTQIA+ resources, and more!
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Thereafter Patreon! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Finally,PROMO Code for “Christian Nationalism and the Future of Democracy” event in Denver hosted by our friends at Straight White American Jesus is: Left
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Instagram: @ThereafterPodcast, @CortlandCoffey, @ThePursuingLife
059 - Chrissy Stroop | Pluralism and Letting Go of God Without Leaving the Conversation
This week we had the privilege of sitting down for a conversation with Chrissy Stroop. Chrissy is an important voice in the exvangelical and post-Christian conversation and brings so much to that conversation through her work as a scholar, researcher, author, and educator. She is a Senior correspondent for @RDispatches, columnist for @openDemocracy, as well as a speaker and writer for hire. She is the co-editor of Empty the Pews: Stories of Leaving the Church (available here: https://www.amazon.com/Empty-Pews-Stories-Leaving-Church/dp/1946093076).
You can follow her on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/C_Stroop
And on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/chrissystroop/
Visit her at her website https://cstroop.com/ and if you would like to support the work she is doing please consider joining her patreon HERE: https://www.patreon.com/cstroop
If you are interested in joining the discord server Chrissy mentions in the interview you can use this invite link: https://t.co/wySo4wnPwK
Lastly, we'd love for you to join the Thereafter Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ThereafterPod
As always, we love hearing from our listeners. Please consider leaving a rate and review on Apple Podcasts and reach out to say hello on social media!
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058 - Damon Garcia | From “Deliverance” to Liberation and The God Who Riots
Today on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Damon Garcia to discuss his story of faith and his new book The God Who Riots: Taking Back the Radical Jesus (Broadleaf Books, 2022) (available now wherever you buy books). Damon Garcia (he/him) is a writer, video essayist, and public theologian. His work is centered around the intersection between liberation and faith. He lives in Santa Maria, California.
Follow Damon’s work on Twitter and Instagram @whoisdamon
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Visit his website at DamonGarcia.com
Subscribe to his YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/damongarcia
On our #TwitBits intro today we discuss some heavy topics (TW/CW we discuss transphobia and threats toward the trans community).
If you want to skip straight to the interview feel free to jump ahead to the 32min mark.
We mention Matthew Paul Turner in this discussion and wanted to link to his twitter here. If you don’t follow MPT yet, you should go give him a follow and if you have a moment to send some encouragement his way we’d love it if you would go send him some love on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HeyMPT).
We also mention the event we will be attending that Brad Onishi from Straight White American Jesus Podcast is hosting in Denver this Nov. If you are interested in attending (in person or virtually) head over to find out more info and snag a ticket here: https://www.bradonishi.com/nationalism/
Lastly, we'd love for you to join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ThereafterPod
As always, we love hearing from our listeners. Please consider leaving a rate and review on Apple Podcasts and reach out to say hello on social media!
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057 - Ashlee’ Thomas | On Intersectionality & Getting Comfortable with Being Uncomfortable
On today's episode we sit down with friend of the show Ashlee' Thomas for a candid conversation about faith change, intersectionality, and being uncomfortable. Ashlee' was one of the folks we had the pleasure of learning from at our Portland meetup earlier this year and we couldn't wait to have her on the show! You can follow her on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/unashamedly_ashlee/
If you enjoyed today's conversation and want to throw a little something Ashlee's way as a thank you (or early wedding gift) you can send her any amount through Venmo here: https://account.venmo.com/u/ashlee-thomas-5
For our TwitBits segment today we talk a little bit about the conversations on twitter that stemmed from Lecrae's twitter thread on the "right way to deconstruct" (https://twitter.com/lecrae/status/1570057592595963904?s=20&t=UpsPXxu_eWJdKe-E_dkY9g). We also talk a bit about what the Bible says about sex and Carl Lentz's return to social media.
If you want to skip straight to the interview you can jump ahead to 28:40 to get right into the conversation with Ashlee'.
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