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The Third Turn

The Third Turn

By Mark L. Vincent

The world-class leader’s journey has three turns.

1. Master of self and becoming an artisan.
2. Mastering the process of organizational leadership and becoming an artist.
3. Becoming a Maestro, purposefully bringing the best out of the artisans and artists you gather and develop.

Our podcast explores the many facets of Maestro-level leadership.

Your Hosts:
Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting.
Kristin Evenson, Consultant, and Coach at Junctures, trained in the neuro-science of change.
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The Third TurnMar 29, 2021

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FINALE!

FINALE!

We celebrate 75 episodes of the Third Turn Podcast! Here are our favorite moments from these 3 years AND we share about a podcast turn of our own.
Your Hosts:
Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.
Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures. Linda Milanowski-Westdorp, Design Group International Senior Consultant. Patricia Teall Vincent, Coach & Owner of Teall Vincent Enterprises.
Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com
Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer. And shout out to Josh Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Jul 03, 202347:39
Episode 74: Succession Models To Follow

Episode 74: Succession Models To Follow

Mark L. Vincent offers four models for thinking about the succession planning needed by accomplished executives.


Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.


Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.


Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.


And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Jun 19, 202316:59
Episode 73: The Life You Go To
Jun 05, 202340:59
Episode 72: Developing Successors
May 22, 202330:26
Episode 71: Best Practices, Board Transitions
May 08, 202327:04
Episode 70: The Mindset of Leaders You Are Developing

Episode 70: The Mindset of Leaders You Are Developing

Christopher Salem joins the Third Turn Podcast to discuss how senior leaders can better guide mindset development in their successors.


Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.


Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.


Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.


And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Apr 24, 202342:33
Episode 69: Resources for Third Turn Leaders
Apr 10, 202337:05
Episode 68: Getting Your Empathy On
Mar 27, 202341:58
Episode 67: Taking A Long-Term Approach to a Short-Term Turnaround
Mar 13, 202338:27
Episode 66: Slow Down and Keep Going
Feb 27, 202345:14
Episode 65: Finishing Well & Phobic Fears
Feb 13, 202337:10
Episode 64: Transferring Wealth From This Generation to the Next
Jan 30, 202338:09
Episode 63: The Four Foundational Things
Jan 16, 202333:00
Episode 62: A Call to Leadership Courage
Dec 19, 202227:45
Episode 61: Counting Correctly
Dec 05, 202251:60
Pivotal Moments in Leadership’s Three Turns?
Nov 21, 202239:17
What Can Third Turn Surprises Look Like?
Nov 07, 202239:45
A Chance to Workshop It! – CLA Workshop
Oct 24, 202222:56
Three Turns of an Executive Leader
Oct 10, 202227:50
Four Themes For Successful Maestro-level Leaders

Four Themes For Successful Maestro-level Leaders

In the 56th episode, Mark L. Vincents reads from some of his weekly correspondences with clients and colleagues discussing the four themes for successful Maestro-level leaders. 

Sep 26, 202224:04
Board Governance

Board Governance

In our 55th episode, we are privileged to extend our conversation with Jodi Hubler, recently named as an "Outstanding Director in 2022."  We first interviewed Jodi in Episode 37 and discussed leadership inflection points. Here we continue our look at board governance -- this almost elusive dimension of organizational maturity and performance that Maestro-level leaders need to embrace.


Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.


Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.


Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.


And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

Sep 12, 202241:58
Leadership Transition & Like-Minded Friends
Aug 29, 202254:50
Development Needs for Senior Executives
Aug 15, 202242:49
Excellence In Corporate Governance
Aug 01, 202233:43
Being a CEO and a Board Member
Jul 18, 202236:24
Those Three Turns Revisited
Jul 04, 202258:56
Maestro-level leaders and their CFO
Jun 20, 202235:36
DIY Brain
Jun 06, 202241:35
Learning & Leading As We Age

Learning & Leading As We Age

In this episode, Kristin Evenson and Mark L. Vincent discuss the new forms of intelligence available to us as we age, and things to lean into as well as things to let go of. These things provide us important opportunity--especially as Third Turn leaders--to bring more collaborative, integrative, cumulative wisdom to bear on the challenges and opportunities through which we live and lead.

May 23, 202246:54
Future Value, Succession and Legacy
May 09, 202238:15
Developing & Living a Maestro-level Vision
Apr 25, 202255:32
Leading Oneself While Investing in Others - WiLD Leaders
Apr 11, 202250:49
Essential and Intentional Things Among the Demands
Mar 28, 202240:39
CEOs and Powerful Questions
Mar 14, 202233:31
Peer-based Advising
Feb 28, 202244:35
Transitions: The Best and Worst of Times
Feb 14, 202237:02
Narrower and Deeper: Finding Your Next Focus After Success
Jan 31, 202241:29
I Don’t Run the Business Anymore!
Jan 17, 202229:60
360 Wisdom for Leadership Inflection Points

360 Wisdom for Leadership Inflection Points

Jodi Hubler, our guest for Episode #37, is a very accomplished leader with deep experience in the C suite, the boardroom and as an investor, all of which give her lots of wisdom, insights, and pitfalls to share about transformational change, executive transition, and board governance. Jodi has held executive positions in both public and private companies, including Cargill, Alcoa, Definity Health and Bind Benefits. She has served as a board director or chair of more than a dozen venture and private equity backed health care companies, particularly as the CEO and Managing Director of Lemhi Ventures, a venture capital firm. Jodi is currently serving as board director or chair of organizations like Caringbridge and Medical Alley Association, as well as the inaugural Chair of the State of Minnesota's Launch MN advisory board; and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz recently appointed Jodi to his Council on Economic Expansion. At the core, Jodi's contributions center on leading and governing in industries facing transformative change. And now in her own Third Turn calling, Jodi is using her passion and expertise to amplify impact for underserved, underrepresented communities--specifically nonprofits, women-led businesses, and entrepreneurial ecosystems.


Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.


Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.


Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.


And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

Jan 03, 202237:56
Building Future Value with the Long-Term in Mind
Dec 20, 202139:02
Adaptive Capacity, Sabotage, and Resilience
Dec 06, 202144:51
A Life of Enduring Awe & Wonder
Nov 22, 202139:42
Driving Down the Revenue Road
Nov 08, 202152:60
Bespoke Leader Development_WiLD Leaders
Oct 25, 202148:41
SMEs As a Litmus Test for Leadership
Oct 11, 202132:18
Maintaining Focus Amid Big Change
Sep 27, 202143:50
Managing Polarities
Sep 13, 202143:03
Our first year!

Our first year!

To celebrate the 1 year anniversary of the Third Turn Podcast, in Episode 28, Kristin and Mark share their favorite excerpts from this past year -- a reprise of sorts -- reminding us how beautiful the work of Maestro-level leadership is, and how difficult it is to navigate by oneself. Their choice to use the labels of Artisan, Artist, and Maestro when identifying the Three Turns of Executive Leadership point to the problems inherent in working alone. Leaders need followers, partners, and colleagues!


Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.


Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.


Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.


And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

Aug 30, 202141:46
Maestro-level Leaders as Steward Leaders
Aug 16, 202143:04
Leaving but Not Leaving
Aug 03, 202143:58