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Thinking LSAT

By Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
Ben Olson ( and Nathan Fox ( started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. Don't pay for law school.
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Ep. 298: I am. I did. I do.
It’s the start of personal statement season for students who are applying to law school this fall. If you’re struggling to organize your story or don’t know where to begin, Nathan and Ben offer up an easy-to-follow strategy. Break it down into three basic parts: I am. I did. I do. The guys also answer another Logical Reasoning question from PrepTest 73, take a look at an article about law school debt, answer questions from the listener mailbag, and discuss the perils of mixing alcohol with LSAT prep. Read more on our website!
May 17, 2021
Ep. 297: Service to School with Nathan Lowry
Today’s show features an interview with Nathan Lowry of Service to School, a national nonprofit organization that provides guidance and resources to veterans applying for law school. Ben and Nathan also discuss a new Excuse of the Week and dig into the listener mailbag. Some common themes reappear: Don’t rush into law school. Take your time. Get the best LSAT score you can get. Go to the best law school that offers you a full scholarship. Read more on our website! 
May 10, 2021
Ep. 296: 149 to 178 with Jon-Yin Chong
Many students feel the need to apply to law school as soon as possible without reaching their potential on the LSAT. But good things come to those who wait. Nathan and Ben chat with former Demon student Jon-Yin Chong, who started his LSAT journey in 2019 and, after over a year of prep and five attempts at the official test, scored a life-changing score of 178. By postponing his law school applications, he also availed himself of several opportunities that led to his current position at Harvard Law School’s Federal Tax Clinic, which he discusses on today’s episode. Plus, Ben and Nathan consider whether all the questions on LSAT Reading Comprehension are “Must Be Trues,” answer lots of questions from the listener mailbag, and meet Ben’s biggest fan—Copper, the Golden Retriever. Read more on our website!
May 3, 2021
Ep. 295: Is Two Months Enough to Improve 10 LSAT Points?
In this week's episode, Ben and Nathan dig through the listener mailbag, uncovering an Excuse of the Week, stress over multiple LSAC snafus, and an update from a former listener who took some—but not all—of their advice when applying to law school. They answer questions about reading comprehension, personal statements, and when to start prepping for the LSAT. They also tackle a Paradox question from PrepTest 73. Read more on our website!
April 26, 2021
Ep. 294: If Ben Hypothetically Committed Murder
If you’re gonna go into a courtroom—as a defendant—you’re gonna want the most ruthless and savvy law warrior on your side. But how far would you want them to go in advocating for you? Nathan and Ben debate a hypothetical legal entanglement amidst answering listener questions. They also read listener mail about negotiating a full ride to Berkeley, choosing which law school you should pay for (hint: none of them), how to prep in a retake situation, whether to ask for accommodations (probably), and much more. The guys also try to get to the bottom of LSAC’s recent bombshell announcement that the dates of the LSAT testing year have changed, leaving a bunch of test-takers in a lurch. Read more on our website!
April 19, 2021
Ep. 293: Don't Break the 100% Rule for Law School Rankings
In an action-packed show, the guys hit all the bases: pearls vs. turds, excuse of the week, the latest news from the law-school universe, law school admissions success stories, advice for 1L hopefuls. The works. Nathan and Ben take a look at how Khan Academy teaches LG compared to building worlds. They talk about Georgetown slipping from the top 14. They try to decipher LSAC’s new policy on how many times you can take the LSAT. They offer some advice to someone who’s hoping to attend Harvard with a 3.2 GPA, and they consider whether it’s too late to consider applying in the 2021-2022 cycle. Plus the dive deep into the murky bowels of Florida Coastal School of Law, which is facing closure after the government declared it would stop loaning money to students planning to attend. Read more on our website!
April 12, 2021
Ep. 292: LSAT Logic is Logical
It’s getting later in the law school admissions cycle, and more and more offers are rolling in. Now students are faced with some tough decisions. But instead of playing the game the Thinking LSAT way, students are panicking. They’re worried about getting to school right away instead of starting their career in law the right way—(near) debt free, and with the best opportunities ahead of them. Instead, folks tend to get tunnel vision and reduce their range of possibilities. Nathan and Ben serve up some tough love to a bunch of students trying to decide where to attend in the fall. Plus, the guys hear an excuse of the week and pick apart another LR question from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
April 5, 2021
Ep. 291: Doing the LSAT Backwards…and Other Dumb Ideas
The Thinking LSAT mailbag is filled to the brim, so the guys sit down for a bonus episode of answering questions from our dear listeners. They weigh some LSAT wisdom from a particularly misguided guidance counselor, they hear an excuse of the week from a surprisingly self-aware student, they help a “non-traditional” candidate with an addendum (and chronic sleep apnea), and they hear some success stories about students heading to law school for free. Plus, they offer some advice to a college sophomore who wants to know how to start prepping for the LSAT early—because they’re positively, definitely, for sure, dead set on a career in the law. Read more on our website!
April 2, 2021
Ep. 290: Ethics and Law School Admissions with Sydney Montgomery
Since the 2019 college admissions bribery scandal, college admissions professionals have been under a new level of scrutiny. On today’s show, Ben and Nathan talk to Harvard Law grad and college admissions consultant, Sydney Montgomery, about ethics and law school admissions. They also talk to Sydney about how equity-seeking groups can find community and support as they are preparing for law school and when they get to campus. Plus, the guys answer another LR question from prep test 65, they answer a question about scholarships for older candidates, check-in on changes to the U.S. News rankings, and hear a story of an LSAC fee waiver denial that got reversed. Read more on our website!
March 29, 2021
Ep. 289: Agree to Disagree with Actual Lawyer Nikki Black
Many lawyers-to-be have their eyes on the good stuff. They want to do the world-saving, altruistic work that will make communities stronger and peoples’ lives better. And immigration law is a popular focus for these folks who want to help asylees and other groups. But what is immigration law really like? Nathan and Ben sit down with immigration attorney, Nicole Black, to talk about the realities of immigration law. They discuss what cases generally look like, what happens when cases get lost, and what the day-to-day practice is like for an immigration attorney. Plus, the guys chomp thru another LR question from PT 65, they weigh some advice from Reddit and answer a bunch of listener mail. Read more on our website!
March 22, 2021
Ep. 288: The Calligrapher and the Demon
In what may be some kind of record, the guys dig thru their overflowing mailbag and answer a bunch of listener emails, plus they find time to hear an Excuse of the Week, play a round of Pearls vs. Turds, and answer an LR question from prep test 65. It is an action-packed episode where the guys answer questions about career changes from being a calligrapher to becoming a lawyer, from opting out of law school to become a social worker, whether law schools offer accommodations for students with learning differences, and what to do about being waitlisted in an ultra-competitive cycle, and a bunch more. Read more on our website!
March 15, 2021
Ep. 287: The JAG Corps with 3L Henry Carras
Ben and Nathan are joined by Henry Carras, a 3L at GW who is preparing to go into the JAG (Judge Advocate General’s) Corps. Harry discusses the ins and outs of what it means to be a Judge Advocate in different branches of the military, what responsibilities JAG Corps officers have outside of lawyer-ing, and what it takes to be accepted into the JAG Corps. The guys also hear from a student who’s wondering if creating a good network in law school is better than being a big fish with a scholarship, they skewer a money-grab email from Georgetown, take a look at an excuse of the week, and get into another LR question from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
March 8, 2021
Ep. 286: Go Faster with LSAT Pearls of Wisdom
When it comes to all the LSAT advice that’s floating out there in the world, it’s hard to find much information that’s helpful. It’s hard to find those pearls of wisdom that will have a meaningful impact on your LSAT score. And over the years, the guys have reviewed many a turd-o-wisdom from the field. But in this episode, the guys take a look at some advice that they agree every person studying for the LSAT should keep in mind. Nathan and Ben also hear from folks who aren’t feeling so surefooted on their paths to law school—if they’re struggling with RC, does that mean they’re going to suck at law school? If they’re scoring higher today than a few weeks ago, are they just on a lucky streak? If they can’t apply this cycle, is it worth applying to law school at all? Nathan and Ben try to bring some peace of mind to these folks, plus they tackle another LR question from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
March 1, 2021
Ep. 285: Goodbye Flex, Hello Online LSAT
It’s not always fun to say “we told you so.” But guess what. We told you so. This week, LSAC announced that the LSAT Flex is here to stay. And with a few small changes, the online test will be known simply as “LSAT” after August of this year. The guys cover this major announcement from LSAC and share some other news, like the release of the testing schedule thru June 2022. Nathan and Ben also hear from a student who’s considering a retake at 174, they advise a listener who fears they’re too old to go to law school, and they hear from a student who’s got a handful of full-ride offers. Plus, the guys consider an excuse of the week about tough vocab on the LSAT, and they rip thru a listener’s personal statement.
February 22, 2021
Ep. 284: Trump in the Woodchipper
Over the past few weeks, lawyers, judges, and politically interested folks around the world were audience to the latest Trump impeachment trial. And while there’s been a lot of commentary about the cases made by both the prosecution and the defense, the Thinking LSAT crew has some opinions of their own—mainly about the wildly poor writing exhibited in Trump’s impeachment defense brief. In this episode, the guys laugh their way through portions of the legal brief in a case study of what not to do if you ever become a lawyer. The guys also field a question about how much one can expect to improve on the LSAT after studying for a few months, they hear an LSAT Demon success story, they consider some advice for improving reading comprehension, and they burn through another LR question from prep test 65. Plus, a motivational note about plateauing performance from producer Adam. Read more on our website!
February 15, 2021
Ep. 283: Late Cycle Admissions Qs with Ann Levine
Friend of the show and law school expert, Ann Levine, joins Nathan and Ben to answer some of your burning late-in-the-cycle admissions questions. The squad tackles questions about negotiating scholarships, picking a school with an international program, what’s appropriate for a diversity statement vs. a personal statement, and whether it’s too late to apply to a T14 school. Plus, Ben and Nathan talk about the dirtiest word on the LSAT, they cover another “excuse of the week,” and they answer another LR question from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
February 8, 2021
Ep. 282: The LSAT Is So Aesthetic
In the wake of the January LSAT-Flex, there are winners and…not so winners. Nathan and Ben field some questions from folks who got shook by the January test. From nightmare ProctorU experiences to “harder-than-usual” sections, folks are wondering if they need to re-take. The guys also help someone who’s caught in a morass of LSAC GPA finagling, they offer some negotiation advice to a student who’s been accepted to their no. 1 school, and they help an ultra-marathoner decide how to work his accomplishment into a personal statement. Plus, Ben and Nathan take a look at another Excuse of the Week, and introduce another segment: Sh*t that Kids Say Wrong.
February 1, 2021
Ep. 281: LSAT Excuse of the Week
Whether you’re prepping for the LSAT, or sitting for the LSAT, or getting ready to apply for law school, there are countless obstacles that can stand in your way. And as many obstacles there are—there are that many excuses for why things didn’t turn out as you’d hoped. On the flip side, if you’re prepared and cool as a cucumber, you can still perform under pressure and not pay for law school. Today the guys hear from a high-scorer who had an unfortunate Proctor U mishap, they weigh some advice about being a big fish in a small pond (will it be a pearl or a turd?!), they take a look at a claim that COVID may be causing some law schools to lose their accreditation, and they read “the excuse of the week” from their LSAT Demon classes. Plus, Nathan gives a brain teaser to Ben and the guys tackle another LR question from Prep Test 65.
January 25, 2021
Ep. 280: Waitlist Mania
We’re well into the law school admissions cycle and letters are beginning to come back to 1L hopefuls. Included in letters that make and dash dreams are the occasional, inevitable “you’ve been waitlisted” letter. The guys hear from a listener who’s been waitlisted and answer a few questions about how to let school’s know they’re still your top choice. Plus they offer some help to someone whose practice scores are always higher than their official test scores, they hear from a junior in college who’s racing toward law school, and they answer another LR question from Prep Test 65. Read more on our website!
January 18, 2021
Ep. 279: Account Lockdown and Other Application Woes
Application season can be stressful, you’re gathering up your documents, your letters of rec, your personal essay, your transcripts. It can be a mess, especially if you’re waiting for your autumn LSAT scores to roll in. And it can get even messier if LSAC locks your account down because you applied for an LSAC fee waiver. In this episode, the guys hear a tale of woe from the 2020 application cycle, they field some questions about whether someone else can submit your application for you in 2021, and they offer advice for someone is looking for a job ahead of attending law school in 2022. Plus, the guys consider some advice about LG setups, they get the insider scoop from a current 1L, and they slice and dice an LR question from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
January 11, 2021
Ep. 278, Part 2: An LR Question and a Personal Statement
The guys pick up where they left off last episode and kick things off with an LSAT LR question from practice test 65. They discuss the importance of reading comprehension skills even while unpacking an LR argument. And they show how you can use your own real-world knowledge to help ground you while you’re reading, even if the argument differs wildly from what you know to be true in real life. Plus, the guys critique a law school personal statement from Vancouver, British Columbia. Read more on our website!
January 4, 2021
Ep. 278, Part 1: Existential Quantifiers Crisis
Some. Most. Sufficient Assumption. Inference. The LSAT is full of jargon. Some of it useful, and some of it…not so much. What makes matters worse is that many LSAT prep companies confuse students’ understanding by building unnecessary complexities into the study process. In this episode, the guys hear from a listener who just can’t quite understand “existential quantifiers,” hard as he may try. The thing is: the guys have no idea what “existential quantifiers” even means—especially not in the context of the LSAT. Nathan and Ben do their best to bring clarity to this confused 1L hopeful. Plus Nathan advocates for doing more inquiring and less note taking, the guys hear about a life-changing 20-point improvement, and they offer up a PSA about talking and LSAT-ing. Read more on our website!
December 28, 2020
Ep. 277: LSAT Prep Pearls
Sometimes the best advice comes from where you least expect it. The guys take a look at an email from a UPenn computer science program and find a gold mine of advice. They read through the email and discuss each of its 13 pieces of advice. The guys also hear from an LSAT Demon confrontation at…Target, and they offer some advice to someone who’s wondering how they should switch up study habits in the home stretch toward the January LSAT. Plus, the guys consider the link between the LSAT and nutrition, they hear from a happy Demon subscriber who’s headed to Georgetown Law fuh FREE, and they chop up a listener’s personal statement.
December 21, 2020
Ep. 276: Rachel Barnes, National Black Law Students Association Chair
Black Americans are woefully underrepresented in the field of law, making up around 5% of all attorneys compared to 13% of the U.S. population. Enter NBLSA, the National Black Law Students Association—an organization working to improve the relationship between Black law students, Black attorneys, and the American legal structure. Nathan and Ben are joined by NBLSA National Director and Chair, Rachel Barnes to discuss how NBLSA is articulating and promoting the educational, professional, political, and social needs and goals of Black law students. The guys also hear from two students who are trying to push their scores higher than their current on-record, they advise someone who’s bummed about an early decision decision, and they tackle another LR question from PT 65. Plus, get the latest updates about the LSAT Demon. Read more on our website!
December 14, 2020
Ep. 275: Don't Talk to the Cops
It’s the time of year when students are visiting college campuses, sending in their admissions packets, and talking to law school admissions staffers. But in the world of the pandemic, fewer on-campus visits are taking place. Now, these Q and A sessions are taking the place where everything else in the world is taking place. On Zoom. The guys discuss a current law school trend—admissions officers offering one-on-one Zoom pre-application discussions for curious students. They also take a look at some personal statement advice from Nebraska Law, Ben tackles a brain teaser, Nathan touts the benefits of video games, and the guys slice and dice an LR question from prep test 65. Plus, you’ll hear from a student who’s not paying for law school in 2021. Read more on our website!
December 7, 2020
Ep. 274: Jobs Without JDs
Many law school hopefuls are starry-eyed and idealistic, hoping to be a force for good in the world. But after three years of Torts and Wills and Trusts courses, they end up disillusioned and in debt. What if there were careers in the law where you could do some good but didn’t need to get a JD first? Today on the show the guys take a look at some alternative careers in law. Plus, Ben and Nathan assess an “ancient cramming technique,” they hear from a student who tracked their score from 160 to 174 with interesting results, and they offer advice to two listeners who are feeling downright stuck on their LSAT journey. Read more on our website!
November 30, 2020
Ep. 273: The Law School Admissions Timeline
As we get late into the 2021 law school admissions cycle, a new generation of 1L hopefuls are starting to study for the LSAT to apply for the 2022 school year. But for anyone getting ready to apply to law school, the process can be daunting. The guys break down what an ideal LSAT and law school application journey looks like—which starts as much as two years before starting school. Nathan and Ben also hear some solid advice from a pre-law advisor, they discuss why you don’t need to make the LSAT your life, they advise a listener on whether to write a “why you” letter to their law schools of choice, and they respond to some criticism about assertions they’ve made on previous episodes. Plus, they tackle an LR question from LSAT prep test 65. Read more on our website!
November 23, 2020
Ep. 272: Winter LSAT Grab Bag
Diversity statements are an oft-overlooked part of some students’ application packages. But a short and to-the-point diversity statement can give law schools a much better picture of you as an applicant. In this episode, the guys review a lengthy diversity statement from a listener and offer some advice about how to make it a stronger piece of their application. Nathan and Ben also consider some advice about LG questions, they offer some “tips” on how to improve your LR and RC performance, they help a student narrow down where to apply to law school, and they advise a student with a disappointing first-time score. Plus, the guys introduce a new segment, Hills to Die On. Read more on our website!
November 16, 2020
Ep. 271: Networking During a Pandemic with Rachel Gezerseh
The COVID-19 pandemic has presented unprecedented challenges to college students, 1Ls and lawyers-to-be around the world. But where one door closes…another opens, dear listeners. Rachel Gezerseh (Panish, Shea and Boyle, LLP) is back on the pod to talk about how you can and should be networking for your legal career even though you can’t grab coffee or meet up with lawyers in person. Ben and Nathan also talk about the effectiveness of a JD MBA, they consider whether an MA certificate program will help your chances of getting into a good law school, they weigh some advice about personal statements from a pre-law advisor, and they offer advice to someone who just jumped from the 130s to the 150s. Plus, the guys answer LR question 11 from prep test 65. Read more on our website!
November 9, 2020
Ep. 270: The Lawyer Sorting Hat
It’s that time of year again when 1L hopefuls are getting their sh*t together and applying to law school. But you might be wondering, “what do I even want to learn when I get in?” If that’s you, you’re not alone! After all, the law can be…mysterious…and it can be hard to know what career paths are open to you. Well, dear listeners, never fear! LSAC has an online quiz that can help you understand just what kind of lawyer you could be. Nathan and Ben take the quiz and let you know what they think of the results. Plus, the guys talk about what to do in the days leading up to taking the LSAT-Flex, they talk “technical cancellations,” they assess some Instagram LSAT wisdom, offer advice to a splitter, and answer an LR question from practice test 65. Read more on our website!
November 2, 2020
Ep. 269: LSAC Fee Waivers with Kalyn McDaniel
The world of LSAC Fee Waivers is opaque and confusing. You may not get a clear answer as to why you were granted or denied a fee waiver, leaving many people frustrated and in the dark—and still in need of any bit of financial relief they can get. The guys sit down with Kalyn McDaniel, an LSAT Demon tutor and 1L applicant who recently received a fee waiver after initially being denied. Kalyn discusses the fee-waiver appeal process and lets you know how you can set yourself up for success when asking LSAC for help. Plus, the guys consider the relationship between GPA and scholarships, they offer advice to someone who’s just starting their LSAT prep journey, they hear from someone who’s seen a bump in their score after studying with the Demon, and they critique a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
October 26, 2020
Ep. 268: The Most Competitive Admissions Cycle Ever with Ann Levine
This year has seen major changes to the LSAT—namely through the LSAT Flex. It’s a shorter test with just three sections that you can take from the comfort of your home (or hotel) and a completely separate writing section. So how are these changes affecting the 2020 law school admissions cycle? The guys sit down with law school admissions expert Ann Levine to talk about how this cycle may be the most competitive ever. Read more on our website!
October 19, 2020
Ep. 267: 143 to 173 with Santi Del Campo
When Santi Del Campo started studying for the LSAT from Spain, he was scoring in the 140s. But after studying with the Thinking LSAT team, he smashed out a 173 on the test. Now he’s helping other students with the LSAT in the LSAT Demon. The guys talk to Santi about his LSAT journey and what his classes are like in the Demon. Nathan and Ben also offer some advice to a student who’s taking the test as a non-native English speaker, they hear from a student who wants to know about scholarship opportunities for folks with low GPAs, and they dive into a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
October 12, 2020
Ep. 266: An Arresting Personal Statement
The leaves are changing and the weather is getting colder, but the LSAT remains the same. It’s the time of year where law schools wheel out their college admissions staffers to try to sell you big on their schools. In the past, LSAC would hold forums where you could meet and greet admissions folks from around the country. Now they’re creating virtual events. The guys discuss LSAC’s new digital forum, they discuss the value of studying with “old” LSAT practice tests vs. new ones, they weigh some advice from a listener, and they critique a personal statement. Read more on our website!
October 5, 2020
Ep. 265: The Demon Scholarship Estimator
Nathan and Ben are joined by LSAT Demon tutor, Jackson, to discuss a brand-new feature of the platform—a scholarship estimator. The estimator takes your GPA and your LSAT score and lets you know what kind of scholarship you could expect from any accredited law school. Jackson talks about how he helped develop the feature and the guys put the beta feature to the test. Plus, Ben and Nathan assess some advice from the Dean of Admissions at the University of Michigan, they help a listener with an addendum, they tear apart a personal statement, and more. Read more on our website!
September 28, 2020
Ep. 264: Summer of LSAT-Flex
Even though the registration deadline for the October LSAT-Flex is long past, students who took the test over the summer are just now getting their LSAT scores back. And waiting weeks on end for a score isn’t the only miserable thing about taking the LSAT during a pandemic. Nathan and Ben hear from a bunch of folks who have received or had trouble getting their scores back from LSAC. Some want advice. And some just want to gripe. The guys also offer up some thoughts about strengthening your reading comprehension skills, and they hear a big list of mostly terrible advice. Read more on our website!
September 21, 2020
Ep. 263: The Three Stages of “Unless” Awareness
The summer’s coming to an end and future 1Ls are applying to law school or getting ready to take the LSAT. And since folks are about to dive headfirst into the fall LSATs? The guys get a bunch of pretty technical questions about the test. They discuss the mechanics of strengthen and weaken questions, they talk about how to handle questions that use “unless,” and they straight up answer a must be true question from practice test 65. Plus, they consider when a person should become a lawyer and they read a rather hilarious email from UC Hastings. Read more on our website!
September 14, 2020
Ep. 262: LSAT-Flex from the Trenches
It’s been almost six months since the first LSAT-Flex, and just because there’ve been several administrations, it doesn’t mean all of the issues have been ironed out. Between LSAT Writing and LSAT-Flex, students aren’t having the best experiences as they prepare for law school. Nathan and Ben discuss the problems they’ve heard from their students as a way to hopefully let you know what you’re in for. Plus, the guys weigh some advice about practicing under tighter time constraints, they hear about financial aid for part-time programs, and they take a look at a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
September 7, 2020
Ep. 261: Transferring with 2L Kelly Buckley
If you’re a longtime listener, then you know that transferring can be a way to leverage a strong 1L performance into a more prestigious school. That’s just what GW transfer student and current 2L, Kelly Buckley did. After her 1L year at Catholic University, Kelly made the rounds, collected recommendations from current instructors, assessed her options, and transferred to GW. Kelly talks about her 1L experience and offers advice to law-school hopefuls, and shares the details of what it was like to transfer from a school outside the top 100 law schools to a school ranked 23rd in the country. Plus, Nathan and Ben answer questions about LG strategy, LR strategy, whether or not to write a GPA addendum, and whether a part-time program will set you up for a successful career in the law. Read more on our website!
August 31, 2020
Ep. 260: Beating the Khan Plateau
LSAC finally announced that the October LSAT will indeed be an LSAT-Flex, which should come as no surprise to Thinking LSAT listeners. But as more LSAT-Flex tests are scheduled, the rumor mill is going into overdrive. The guys talk about the latest news from LSAC and address rumors about the LSAT-Flex (is every LSAT-Flex different to mitigate cheating?!). Plus, the guys hear some success stories from LSAT Demon users, they offer some mind-expanding advice about logic games, and they review a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
August 24, 2020
Ep. 259: Private Tutoring vs. LSAT Demon
August is here! And with each month that passes, LSAC announces new updates about the LSAT-Flex. The guys jump into the latest news from LSAC and talk about the upcoming August and October LSAT-Flex administrations. Nathan and Ben also hear from a listener who’s bummed about the LSAT-Flex being undisclosed, they hear gripes from a listener who is enrolled in private tutoring (from another prep company) but isn’t seeing results, and the guys tackle another LR question from prep test 65. Plus, the guys dig into an ABA 509 report to see if there really is a 100-year-old law student at Penn State. Read more on our website!
August 17, 2020
Ep. 258: Surviving Georgetown Law with Michael Bongiorno
Ben sits down with a former student, circuit-court clerk, and recent Georgetown Law School grad, Michael Bongiorno for a wide-ranging interview. Michael shares what his law school experience was like and talks about studying for the Bar in the midst of a pandemic. The two go in-depth about the importance of picking the right law school, finding the right teachers, and performing well in your 1L year. They also discuss how to think about transferring, competing with your fellow students, and how to succeed even if your grades suffer in your 1L year. Read more on our website!
August 10, 2020
Ep. 257: Aaron Taylor of AccessLex
Aaron Taylor, the Executive Director of the AccessLex Center for Legal Education Excellence, joins Nathan and Ben to discuss the current state of law schools—from the U.S. News Rankings and prepping students for the financial realities of law school, to administering the Bar exam during a pandemic. But before the guys dive in, they talk about some of the biggest news of the year: LSAC lost a bunch of July LSAT-Flex scores. Read more on our website!
August 3, 2020
Ep. 256: The LSAT Paradox
Speed. Accuracy. Success. Happiness. How do you strike a balance? If you speed through the LSAT, your accuracy may suffer. If you slow down to improve accuracy but never get better at the test, your score will stagnate. If you rush headfirst into law school, you may end up with a mountain of debt in a career that doesn’t meet expectations. In this episode, Nathan and Ben discuss how to use the time to set yourself up for success on the LSAT and beyond. They answer listener questions about aiming for accuracy, how slow is too slow when approaching LR arguments, and whether or not to take a gap year. They also hear from a budding app developer who made an app for checking law-school-app status, and they critique a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
July 27, 2020
Ep. 255: Law School Transparency with Kyle McEntee
In this episode, Nathan and Ben sit down with attorney and public policy expert Kyle McEntee to discuss his non-profit, Law School Transparency. The mission of Law School Transparency is to make the process of becoming a lawyer more transparent, affordable, and fair. The guys talk to Kyle about how the law school game has changed over the past decade and explore his data-centric approach to choosing a law school (and a career path once you’re there). Read more on our website!
July 20, 2020
Ep. 254: Score Preview
It’s the week of the third-ever LSAT-Flex and now that the summer is in swing, LSAC is dropping announcements left and right. It looks like the LSAT-Flex is here to stay for the summer (at least). But not only that! If it’s your first time taking the test, LSAC announced a major new service that could offer you a big advantage heading into your law school admissions cycle. The guys dish the latest in LSAC news and answer some of your LSAT questions. Nathan and Ben take a look at a last-minute ploy from John Marshall Law School ahead of the fall semester, they hear a horror story about registering for the LSAT Flex, and they hear some advice about prepping for the Flex. Plus, the guys answer an LR question from practice test 65. Read more on our website! 
July 13, 2020
Ep. 253: LSAT-Flex Registration Woes and Hacks
As the 2020-2021 admissions cycle draws near, many of you may be scrambling to take your LSAT-Flex and get your application packages in line. And you couldn’t have better timing. Applying early and broadly is the best way to nab your best deals for the 2021-2022 school year. To help you in your lawyerly quest, the guys read discuss some ProctorU woes that students have been having, and they also report on some hacks that may help you with registration over the next few months. Nathan and Ben also answer some important questions around when and if you should re-take the test after a disappointing performance, and they read through a rock-solid personal statement that helped earn a bunch of full-ride scholarships. Plus, the guys discuss LGBTQQIA+ diversity statements, tackle an LR question from practice test 65, and more. Read more on our website!
July 6, 2020
Ep. 252: The New Law School Admissions Game with Ann Levine
With the LSAT-Flex and the impact of the new coronavirus, 1L hopefuls and 1Ls in waiting have a lot of questions about attending or applying to law school in the fall. Nathan and Ben sit down with friend of the show and law school expert, Ann Levine, to discuss her latest book and the state of law school admissions in 2020. The guys also talk about converting your LSAT-Flex scores, they hear from a student whose LSAC fee-waiver request was denied, and they answer an LR question from practice test 65. Plus, Nathan and Ben dig into cooperative board games, E-Prime, and they read an LR question drafted by a listener who was inspired by Nathan’s COVID-19 rant. Read more on our website!
June 29, 2020
Ep. 251: The Tip of the Spear
As the summer gets going and the pandemic wears on, it seems likely that more LSAT-Flex tests will be scheduled. And there are some pretty important things you should know when heading into a remote testing environment. The guys kick off the show with some helpful LSAT-Flex public service announcements to make sure you’re set up for success (and comfort) on the day of your test. Nathan and Ben also discuss how a global pandemic is affecting admissions cycles, they tackle an LR question from prep test 65, and they answer a question from a high school senior about when to start prepping for the LSAT. Plus, the guys hear a success story from a past listener, and they read another email from Dean Faigman of UC Hastings. Read more on our website!
June 22, 2020
Ep. 250: LSAT Tips of a Certain Nature
From fan art to cannon fire, Ben and Nathan kick off the summer—and their 250th episode—with a bang. The guys talk about the benefits of showing up week after week and some of the challenges they faced in creating the show and their businesses along the way. Then they hit the ground running with some news about the LSAT-Flex. They also consider some good ol’ fashioned LSAT advice coming out of Florida Coastal School of Law, they hear from a listener who got inspired by a previous episode, and they chop up another listener’s personal statement. Plus, Nathan and Ben dive into an LR question from practice test 65. Read more on our website!
June 15, 2020
Ep. 249: June LSAT Grab Bag
The summer is starting to heat up and the resulting weather is causing Ben to remove trees from his property. The guys talk about Ben’s “death trap” backyard and then dive into LSAT current events. They talk about the upcoming LSAT-Flex in June, July, and probably August, and they take a look at how the test dates differ from previous administrations of the test. They also let you know how you can get a free night in a hotel via LSAC. Plus, the guys hear from a peaceful protester who wants to know if their activism will affect their chances of becoming a lawyer, they judge a listener’s strategy for when they’re down to the wire in an RC section, they answer an LR question from practice test 65 and more. Read more on our website!
June 8, 2020
Ep. 248: Rising 2L, Sarah Ashworth
School’s out for summer. And that means 1Ls are now officially 2Ls—and many of them just bypass/fail grades, due to the coronavirus pandemic. Friend of the show and Thinking LSAT ex-producer, Sarah Ashworth, drops by to discuss her 1L experience with Nathan and Ben. Sarah shares how her first year of law school met her expectations and what she’s looking forward to as she heads into her 2L year. Then she sticks around to discuss LSAC news and LSAT advice with the guys. They cover what to do if you’re stuck in a particular score range, how to handle Character and Fitness inquiries, and they join forces like a gd LSAT Voltron to unlock LG 3 from practice test 65. Read more on our website!
June 1, 2020
Ep. 247: Tales from the LSAT-Flex
This month, students across the US sat for the first-ever LSAT-Flex. And you didn’t need a crystal ball to predict that there would be some hiccups in the rollout. The guys hear some LSAT-Flex horror stories and share how LSAT responded to criticism of the LSAT-Flex. Nathan and Ben also offer up some advice about Rule Substitution questions in the Logic Games and talk about how you can get those RC passages to stick so you don’t need to constantly reread them when you’re working through the questions. Plus, the guys try to help an LSAT tutor who’s getting fed up with “lazy” students. Read more on our website!
May 25, 2020
Ep. 246: Bar Prep with Daniel Schweitzer
Studying for the LSAT, getting your application together, and grinding it out for three years in law school all lead to one final hurdle: the bar exam. The test that stands between you and a career practicing law. The guys interview veteran bar-prep tutor Daniel Schweitzer to get the low-down on the bar exam, what to expect, and how to prepare. Plus, the guys share the origin story of Thinking LSAT and consider a list of flaws you’ll find in LR sections. Read more on our website!
May 18, 2020
Ep. 245: Dreaming LSAT
The guys have been going against the law-school-game grain for so long that Ben is starting to dream about it. After recounting his dream, in which he and Nathan go undercover to the DOJ, the guys jump into a veritable grab bag of LSAT inquiries. They take a look at some news from overseas that LSAT-Flex will not be offered outside of the U.S. They offer some advice about how to manage your time during Logic Games. They weigh some advice about random guessing. And they rip a personal statement to shreds. Plus, Nathan and Ben hear from someone who decided not to go to law school and they read about UC Hastings’s lawsuit with San Francisco. Read more on our website!
May 11, 2020
Ep. 244: Desperate Schools, Desperate Measures
Just as you were recovering from the whiplash that was the announcement of the May LSAT-Flex, LSAC decided to drop another surprise. June LSAT is going the way of the Flex, too! Ben and Nathan talk about the change and give you all the details you need to know if you were registered for the June test. The guys also discuss an advanced strategy for LG, they double down on the importance of predicting answer choices in LR, and they offer up their thinking about parallel reasoning questions. Plus, we get a look at how law schools are getting desperate during a slow admissions cycle. Read more on our website!
May 4, 2020
Ep. 243: In the Trenches with LSAT-Flex
As the pandemic drags on, Nathan, Ben, and all y’all studying for the LSAT are getting used to a new normal. Social distancing. Remote classes. And trying to improve LR during a global health crisis. The guys field questions from folks studying in this brave new world. How do you prepare for the test if you’re an essential worker? What do you do if you can’t focus on ordering games because the world is going to hell? And what should you do if you’re just starting on your LSAT journey? Plus, the guys hear from students who are getting cold feet about going to law school, and others who are getting great promo codes in these fraught times. Read more on our website!
April 27, 2020
Ep. 242: Law School Promo Codes
LSAC made some wild changes in the past few weeks. The April LSAT is cancelled, and a new test, LSAT-Flex, is being made available to April LSAT registrants. Nathan and Ben give you everything you need to know (so far) about the unprecedented LSAT-Flex. Plus, the guys take a look at some law schools that are getting a little antsy about incoming 1Ls and offering extra discounts to secure their classes. The guys also talk about why Chipotle sucks, gap years, consider a tip for when you’re in the last few minutes of a section, and hear from a student who ultimately decided against law school. Read more on our website!
April 20, 2020
Ep. 241: Before You Take the LSAT with Doreen Benyamin
The guys sit down with Columbia 3L and podcast host, Doreen Benyamin, to talk about what law school is actually like. Benyamin dishes the dirt on what matters in your 1L year, and let’s all y’all know what she wishes she knew before going to law school. Plus, Nathan and Ben help a listener think about how to incorporate their sports career into a personal statement, they consider some advice about how to recreate testing conditions at home, they read a letter from UC Hastings Dean Faigman, and they weigh in on a hypothetical decision between two law schools. Read more on our website!
April 13, 2020
Ep. 240: Introducing LSAT Demon Live
Since the new coronavirus has ushered us all indoors, almost all learning is happening online—that includes getting prepped for the LSAT. In this episode, the guys give you the low down on the latest addition to their online LSAT prep platform: LSAT Demon Live. Plus, Nathan and Ben field a bunch of questions from students wondering how to handle the fact that the spring tests are being cancelled. The answer? Maybe just keep doing the same thing you’ve been doing all along. Read more on our website!
April 6, 2020
Ep. 239: LSAT in the Time of Corona
There’s no getting around it. A global pandemic has upended everyday life for almost everyone—including 1L hopefuls and lawyers-to-be. Ben and Nathan field questions about anxiety and uncertainty around the LSAT and law school in the context of the coronavirus pandemic and a looming recession. They share how to prepare for the June LSAT if you feel like the test-prep rug has been pulled out from under yer feet. They discuss the benefits of not going to law school right now. And they offer some food for thought to prospective students who are suddenly faced with going to law school during a recession. Plus, Ben and Nathan talk about meditation and consider what their next careers would be if the LSAT is forever cancelled. Read more on our website!
March 30, 2020
Ep. 238: How to Ask for Stipends
Going to law school ain’t cheap. That’s why the Thinking LSAT rebuttable presumption is “don’t pay for law school.” But what about the other costs? Rent, food, transportation. These things can set you back a pretty penny. Nathan and Ben field some questions about to understand scholarship info on ABA 509 reports and how to ask schools for more money to cover expenses beyond tuition. Plus, the guys talk augmented writing tools, how much time to spend on RC passages vs. questions, what’s going on with smaller classes at Wake Forest, and an LSAT Writing #fail. Read more on our website!
March 23, 2020
Ep. 237: Thinking Social Distancing
Life and the law school admissions game are a lot different than they were just last week. In this bonus episode, the guys discuss how the coronavirus is impacting their lives, their businesses, and the LSAT. Nathan and Ben share how they’re moving their classes online, they offer an update about their upcoming joint class in NYC (spoiler alert: it’s now available for anyone online), and they dish the dirt on what’s happening with the March LSAT and beyond. Plus, they wildly speculate about the economic implications of the pandemic and talk about how law schools are responding. Read more on our website!
March 18, 2020
Ep. 236: Swipe Left for the Next Applicant
When you’re applying to law school, you gotta put the winningest sh*t upfront. That means your absolute best LSAT score, sweet references, and a personal statement chock full of dating-profile-worthy facts about who you are and what you’ve achieved. The guys hear from a 3L about how Bar prep is a lot like LSAT prep. They offer advice to someone who fears their score (and test-taking ability) is improving too slowly. They take a look at the wild swings in the US News law school rankings outside of the top 20 and help a 2020 1L-to-be decide where to attend. And the guys take a look at a personal statement that would have law school admissions peeps swiping left. Plus, updates on LSAC practice-test licensing and news about how the coronavirus is affecting law schools and the LSAT world. Read more on our website!
March 16, 2020
Ep. 235: The Waitlist Game of Chicken
How you prepare for (and how you perform on) the LSAT will affect every step in your law school game—from admissions, to your law school career, passing the bar exam, and on to your legal career. You’re laying the groundwork now for the rest of your lawyerly life, and today’s show proves it out. Nathan and Ben hear from folks who are just beginning their LSAT prep and want advice about their LR pacing or feel like they’re spotting some trends about RC difficulty. They hear from folks looking toward their 1L year and have questions about diversity statements, how to parse ABA 509 reports, and what to do if you’re on the waitlist. And they hear from a former listener and current 1L about how their law career is starting to take shape. Plus Ben and Nathan talk about Ben’s health, the future of medicine, and they announce their upcoming live class in NYC. Read more on our website!
March 9, 2020
Ep. 234: Lower Your Cholesterol with LSAT
The LSAT is sometimes like the doctor’s office. Someone is giving you data and telling you their opinion, and it could all very well be a load of horse sh*t. That’s why you have to approach the LSAT (and life) with serious critical thinking skills. After Ben shares some new learnings about cholesterol and health, the guys dive into an episode full of tips. Nathan and Ben offer advice about when and how to guess when you’re running out of time. They share their thoughts on how to study for the test—do you spend time on your weakest sections, or do you take a more balanced approach? And they help a long-time listener who’s in the throes of law-school-acceptance negotiations. Read more on our website!
March 2, 2020
Ep. 233: Do Question Types Matter?
Nathan’s just getting back in the saddle after vacationing up and down the California and Oregon coasts; Ben’s getting back in the saddle after weathering a winter cold. And after discussing the benefits of making traditions with your friends, the guys jump into a veritable grab bag of LSAT questions from all y’all law school hopefuls out there. Ben and Nathan discuss the importance of understanding LR question types, they talk about how to approach LG sections, they offer some advice on what to do if you experience your score plateauing, they consider just how religious “religious” law schools are, and much more. Read more on our website!
February 24, 2020
Ep. 232: Do the Work
It’s way late in the admissions cycle, and folks are starting to think about applying in the fall. So, naturally, folks are starting to get the 2020 law school itch. They want to know how to make it easy on themselves to nab a great score and get into a great school. Here’s the deal, tho. There is no easy path. You gotta dig in and do the work to achieve your best LSAT score. Nathan and Ben take a look at how schools calculate your LSAC GPA. They answer questions about how to approach “hybrid” games, whether being a paralegal will look good to admissions staffers, and how students in different score ranges think differently about the test. Plus, Nathan talks Oscar picks, the guys talk non-traditional students, and they hear from the newest UC Hastings student. Read more on our website!
February 17, 2020
Ep. 231: Law Schools Workin’ Overtime
Between singing deans, framed “you’re special” awards, and flexible JD programs to fit your schedule, law schools are working overtime to earn your attention and attract your dollars. But as savvy law school hopefuls, y’all know when to call BS. The guys take a look at some absurd and absurdly amusing desperate moves from law schools in 2020. Nathan and Ben also consider some listener wisdom about how to break down an RC passage, they help a student decide how to incorporate her STEM background into her application package, and they critique a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!
February 10, 2020
Ep. 230: Winning, Not Whining
With all the LSAT question-type buzz words floating around, it can be tough to keep them straight. The guys offer up a definitive list of LR question types, what they mean, and how you should think about answering them. They also take a look at a recent LSAC-hosted event, offer some advice about when and how to use the LSAT Demon, help someone decide if part-time law school is worthwhile, and try to offer some encouraging words to a listener with an “abysmal” cold diagnostic. Plus, Ben and Nathan consider how the old pipes in Nathan’s house may be affecting his health. Read more on our website!
February 3, 2020
Ep. 229: Hermanas in the Law with Professor Paulina Vera
In 2018, Paulina Vera created an online community to engage and support Latinas who were heading to law school, in law school, or working in the law. Since Hermanas In The Law has grown to a thriving community of over 10,000 #Lawtinas. Nathan and Ben talk to professor Vera about issues facing minority law students and answer listener-submitted questions. Nathan and Ben also cover the recent test-date announcement from LSAC, they take a look at a scholarship offer from Suffolk Law, and they hear about a pearl of wisdom that helped give an RC boost to a law school hopeful. Plus, the guys talk about whether Ben’s feeling peckish on his new caveman diet. Read more on our website!
January 27, 2020
Ep. 228: News from the January LSAT
The winter winds are sweeping across the land. The January LSAT is behind us all. Now it’s time to wrap yourself in a blanket, sit in your rocker by the fire, and hear the latest in all things LSAT from Nathan and Ben. The guys talk about the first reports back from the January LSAT—and it sounds like the test was (drumroll, please) easy. as. pie. They also hear a few heart-warming stories from listeners about LSAC test-center fails and law-school-scholarship wins. Plus, Nathan and Ben consider a new reading comp “memory method,” they make some recommendations about taking consecutive tests, they clear up some confusion about their own personal statement advice, and offer some thoughts about law school financial aid. And as a little winter treat for you at the end? The guys read a very new year’s email update from our old friend Dean Faigman of UC Hastings. Read more on our website!
January 20, 2020
Ep. 227: Fixing Law Schools with Professor Ben Barton
Nathan and Ben sit down with Ben Barton, JD—professor of law at the University of Tennessee Knoxville—to discuss his new book, Fixing Law Schools: From Collapse to the Trump Bump and Beyond. Tune in for a sweeping conversation about the state of law schools and law-school admissions practices today, over the past decade, and the past century. The guys discuss predatory admissions behaviors, what to consider when applying to law school, how to set yourself up for your best legal career, and, of course, how to not pay for law school. Read more on our website!
January 13, 2020
Ep. 226: Wisdom from 1L Shea Daley
The LSAT journey is tough. Tons of studying, months of hard work, and an often stress-ridden day of testing. And that’s just the start! The application process is just as crazy. And what’s it all for?! The guys sit down with a 1L student who’s halfway through her first year. She dishes the dirt on what law school is really like and what you can expect in your first semesters. Nathan and Ben also take a look at some advice about personal statements, and help a few test-preppers grapple with questions about whether and when to take the LSAT. Read more on our website, and follow us on social media. 
January 6, 2020
Ep. 225: Comparing Scholarship Offers
‘Twas days before Christmas, and all ‘cross the land, students were prepping for the LSAT, sharpened pencils in hand. When two jolly tutors, each nestled cheer’ly in their homes, sat down to chat LSAT behind their microphones. Ben and Nathan get one last episode in before the new year, and because many of y’all dear listeners may be receiving your first acceptance letters, they answer questions about offer negotiations, scholarships, and parsing ABA 509 report information. Plus, they take a look at some advice about getting bendy with the LSAT—taking up yoga practice while studying—and they share their thoughts about how to wrap up your personal statement. Read more on our website!
December 30, 2019
Ep. 224: Parallel Flaw Hacks
The guys are busy and in the holiday swing of things. Ben’s busy planning for time with family and Nathan’s negotiating gift-giving with his 11-year-old niece. And as the winter winds continue to blow, the guys answer your burning LSAT questions. Nathan and Ben talk about how you can ace an interview with a virtual assistant, should you have one; they offer up some advice on fielding parallel flaw questions and talk about whether or not you can appeal your LSAC GPA with LSAC in hopes of getting some more impressive numbers. Plus, the guys read a personal statement, and give a PSA about conditional scholarships. Read more on our website!
December 23, 2019
Ep. 223: LSAT Writing Samples
Whether you’re getting ready for life on Mars or preparing for life in law school, preparedness and awareness are keys to survival. You gotta be ready. You gotta know your stuff. And you gotta avoid the mistakes you made in the past—or that others have made in the past. You know, like using excess semi-colons and other B.S. punctuation that gums up your writing. Nathan and Ben speculate about life in outer space and talk bizarre LSAT questions before diving into y’all’s law-school-prep quandaries. They give you the skinny on top-down vs. bottom-up questions, offer up some advice on when to make worlds during the Logic Games, and help a dentist with a mid-life crisis. Plus, a 1L hopeful asks about old letters of rec, the guys read an article about law school students and debt, and they take a look at some LSAT Writing samples from you, dear listeners. Read more on our website!
December 16, 2019
Ep. 222: The Weird Ones
We’re just on the heels of the November LSAT, and Nathan’s on a whirlwind trip from LA to San Fran to Tahoe to NYC, but he and Ben settle in for a veritable grab bag of LSAT related questions, PSAs, Advice, and more. Curious about all of the weirdest, hardest LSAT questions? So is Nathan, and he pitches a new book idea to Ben. Wondering about the difference between Necessary Assumption and Necessary Condition questions? Ben comes correct with some LSAT guru wisdom for your noggin. Plus, the guys learn about a helpful corner of the ABA disclosures website, some features of LSAT Writing, and they take a look at a heady personal statement. Read more on our website!
December 9, 2019
Ep. 221: Choosing Your Personal Statement Topic
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December 2, 2019
Ep. 220: Success is Counted Sweetest
The winter winds are blowing, holiday plans are being made, and students’ confident fingertips are tapping away on multi-touch displays for the November 2019 LSAT—all while Nathan and Ben settle in for the last show in November. Buckle up and get ready for a PSA about LSAT accommodations, news about the LSAT Writing sample, and law school application tips from Yale. Plus, the guys get artistic with some poetry, a personal statement from “LA’s Youngest DJ,” and more. Read more on our website!
November 25, 2019
Ep. 219: What's in a Name?
We’re just one week out from the November 2019 LSAT and the guys fight through headaches, maladies, and the winter cold to drop some serious LSAT knowledge for y’all. Nathan and Ben answer questions about every step on your journey to a law degree. They weigh some wisdom about the relationship between practice LSAT scores vs. official LSAT scores. They talk about how keeping yourself challenged can help you improve your score with an exploration of “the 85% rule.” Plus, they talk about applying with a low undergraduate GPA, review a personal statement, discuss the benefits and drawbacks of transferring to a new law school after 1L, and more. Read more on our website!
November 18, 2019
Ep. 218: Scholarship Death Match
The November LSAT is just two weeks away, and Ben and Nathan receive a grab bag of LSAT and law-school-application questions to answer from their separate havens in DC and on a riverboat! The guys hear a sad tale of a career-ending LSAT conversation, they answer a question about reapplying to law school when you realize you’re at the wrong one, they take a renewed look at ABA 509 reports, and they weigh in on whether or not to put a response in the “ethnicity” section of your law school application. Plus, they answer some questions about the LSAT Demon and they take a cold hard look at a personal statement. Read more on our website!
November 11, 2019
Ep. 217: Practice vs. Real Life with Ann Levine
Sometimes test day just sucks. You’ve put in the work. You’ve done 30-minute sections each day. You’ve reviewed. Your practice tests indicate you’ll score in your desired range. But then you sit for the test and for one reason or another you just don’t come out on top. That’s life, and that’s the LSAT. Nathan and Ben are joined by Ann Levine to talk about how your day-of performance won’t always be like your best practices. Plus, the guys rate some wisdom dropped by an elite scorer, they share their favorite beverages, take a look behind the scenes of an email from a law school, and more. Read more on our website!
November 4, 2019
Ep. 216: Law School Alternatives
Even though the October LSAT is behind us all, the Thinking LSAT duo takes no vacations. The guys are here to weigh in on your questions about law school and life. Things like—“can’t you just take the effing GRE instead and be done with this BS??”—or, “if I’m not going to be a lawyer, what the hell should I do with my life?!” You know. Things like that. Plus, Nathan warns Ben of the dangers of cold season, the guys offer some advice about big drops in your score, they take a look at a personal statement, and Ben confronts Nathan with some damning evidence that he may be working for the enemy. Read more on our website!
October 28, 2019
Ep. 215: No More Logic Games?!
The guys are riding high after their Thinking LSAT Live! classes in NYC. But since they’ve been away, some seriously interesting news about the LSAT has surfaced. According to a recent Above the Law article, the Logic Games may be going the way of the dodo. Plus, LSAC is planning some updates to make your testing experience even more perfect than it already is. The guys cover the latest LSAT news, plus they answer some of your questions about the LSAT Demon, LSAT burnout, and more!
October 21, 2019
Ep. 214: Mise en Place
September LSAT scores are rolling in and the October and November tests are just around the corner. Not only that, but the school year is kicked off and campuses are a-flurry with campus tours, interviews, and busy admissions staffers sorting through piles of applications. It’s busy in the world of LSAT, and the guys settle in for a show that’s jam-packed with advice. They take a look at a bunch of insider wisdom from Stanford and UC Berkeley staff, and they offer their own advice about law school personal statements, diversity statements, and letters of recommendation. Read more on our website!
October 14, 2019
Ep. 213: LSAT Demon Study Schedule
October is here and the guys are getting pumped up for their return to the city that never sleeps. And they’re not the only ones who are getting jazzed. It looks like this will be the biggest Thinking LSAT Live Class yet. But we’re still a week away, so the guys channel their LSAT energy to answer your questions and to bring you the hottest headlines from the wacky world of LSAT. Ben and Nathan talk about how to shift your thinking around LR and RC questions, they uncover evidence of paper tests being offered for the October LSAT, they consider some advice overheard at the September LSAT, they look at how one disgraced law school is goosing their Bar-passage rates, and more. Read more on our website!
October 7, 2019
Ep. 212: September LSAT Pandemonium
We’re hot on the heels of the September LSAT and accounts of the test are flooding in from students and law-school hopefuls. Many folks are describing sheer pandemonium, with last-minute cancellations, madness-inducing test proctoring, and ultra-challenging logic games. Nathan and Ben take a look at some of the tales of woe and tales of pride coming out of the September 2019 LSAT. Plus, the guys get a PSA from a listener, they offer some advice about GPA addendums for splitters, they consider intermediary conclusions vs. “regular” conclusions, and they take a look at a surprisingly great personal statement. Read more on our website!
September 30, 2019
Ep. 211: What’s the Deal with Law School Prep Courses?
The September ’19 LSAT is finally behind y’all, but the Thinking LSAT crew never rests. LSAT questions continue to come in, and the guys settle in for a well-rounded episode of news, updates, and listener questions.  Nathan and Ben answer questions about reading comp and whether you should attend a law school prep course. They also take a look at an email from Maine Law and a listener-submitted personal statement. Plus, the guys talk about why Ben is perpetually tired, hear from a long-time fan now 2L, and they correct an error from a previous episode. Read more on our website!
September 23, 2019
Ep. 210: The Four Stages of Flaw Awareness
The leaves are beginning to change. Schools are settling into their first semesters. Law-school hopefuls are busy scurrying about, tidying up their applications or getting ready to take the LSAT. And Nathan and Ben blaze through a bunch of listener questions in this jam-packed episode. The guys talk about LR flaw questions, they try to help a confused listener out of an LG fog, shedding some clarity on conditional-ordering games. They also talk conjunctions on personal statements, online degrees, and whether you should waive the right to review your letters of rec. Plus, the guys hear from a listener with a writing-sample horror story and more. Read more on our website!
September 16, 2019
Ep. 209: October Test Centers Full?!
The LSAT is a lot like bowling. You send a ball down the lane, you knock some pins down, you refine your technique, you try again. Eventually, you get a strike and a few spares under your belt and before you know it, you’re the head of your local bowling league, scheduling games and enforcing the league rules. Ben and Nathan each recount some special experiences, some new and some old, about life in the bowling lane. Then the Thinking LSAT duo gets down to business. The guys read through an announcement from LSAC about the October LSAT, they weigh in on a test strategy from a listener, they help a correspondent decide whether to apply early or wait for a better score, and they slice and dice a law-school hopeful’s personal statement. Plus, learn about the upcoming Thinking LSAT live class in NYC, and hear a happy tale of Thinking LSAT friendship straight out of Harvard law. Read more on our website!
September 9, 2019
Ep. 208: Admissions Advice from Law School Admissions
The guys have been nothin’ but busy on the LSAT front. Nathan’s been writing his ass off, responding to folks who have smashed that “Ask” button in the LSAT Demon. If you’re studying for the LSAT and you’re not asking questions…you’re not studying. Ben’s also had goggles down and dashboard up, slicing through bug requests like a demonic LSAT ninja. If you’re a Demon user and you notice something amiss with the platform, fire away. Ben’s ready for ya. But at the end of the day, they’re never too busy to stop and answer your LSAT quandaries. The guys get a follow-up about a recent writing sample fail. They consider whether you need to warm-up like an athlete before approaching a section. They take a look at an LG question type. And they burn through another LR question from prep test 71. Plus, Ben and Nathan consider some law-school advice from law school, they get a missive from ex-producer of the podcast, Sarah, and they talk more about Ben’s current read: Non-Violent Communication. Read more on our website!
September 2, 2019
Ep. 207: Showing, not Telling, with Peanut Butter
As the school year draws nigh, law schools are singing their siren’s song to try and lure 1L’s-to-be to their campuses. The guys take a look at a few law-school emails to see how these universities are pitching prospective students. Plus, the Nathan and Ben review a personal statement, and look at some questionable advice about timing yourself during LG sections. But before they dive in, the guys have a lil’ chat about the books they’re reading. Read more on our website!
August 27, 2019
Bonus: Cancel Your July Score?
So you sat for the bleeps, bloops, swipes and taps of the digital LSAT in July. Now you’re staring at a score that’s made yer heart sink. What to do!? Do you cancel that sub-standard score? Do you keep it and trudge on? Should you race to sign up for the October and November tests? The guys answer all your burning questions re: cancelling your scores. They cover the (few) benefits of cancelling, share why you should keep your score in most instances, and discuss why you don’t need to hang the veritable hat of your self worth on this one data point.
August 23, 2019
Ep. 206: Saying No to Law School, A Love Story
The guys are enjoying a brief reprieve from the blazing summer heat, and the cooler weather is giving them some extra room to breathe and think about the LSAT. You know, things like why the eff is the registration deadline so freakin’ far out from the actual test date? The guys discuss reports of LSAT testing center shortages and how LSAC may be dealing with the challenges “going digital,” like suddenly needing to manage thousands of devices. Plus, they answer your burning questions about writing samples, testing timing, and they share a love story from someone who decided to opt-out of going to law school. Read more on our website!
August 19, 2019
Ep. 205: Digital LSAT Tips for Suckers
We’re in the heart of summer, and things are heating up for Nathan and Ben. Ben’s been hard at work adding features to the LSAT Demon and improving user experience, and Nathan’s been working hard to improve his golf game. The guys take a break to dive into some LSAT updates for you, dear listeners. The guys give some digital LSAT updates, take a look at some pretty wild claims from PowerScore (about their own book series), they read a diversity statement from a listener, and unravel another LR question. Happy listening, and stay cool under the sun, y’all.  Read more on our website!
August 12, 2019
Ep. 204: LSAT Burpees
It’s the dead of summer and the guys are cutting all over the place on this adventure and that adventure in the wake of the July LSAT. Ben’s been biking through the countryside, enjoying vistas of abandoned steel mills from the days of yore. Nathan’s getting ready to go on a family vacay where he’ll challenge his nieces and nephews to board games among the giant sequoias. And the two hunker down for an episode of serious logical reasoning. Nathan and Ben tackle two new LR questions from the December 2013 LSAT and take you on every step of their thought process as they do so. Plus, a listener writes in with a perhaps pearl of wisdom about exercising before the LSAT, and the guys shred a personal statement.  Read more on our website!
August 5, 2019
Ep. 203: Accommodations Gone Wild
What if there were a way to really, truly absorb the things you learn about the LSAT instead of reading a ton of stuff and forgetting about it two practice tests down the line. Well, there’s a miracle cure, dear listeners. It’s called sleep. And Ben opens the show with an appeal to all y’all out there to get your damn rest, citing some compelling facts about learning and catching zzz’s. Nathan and Ben talk about sleep and then talk about the breadth of questions you can experience across all of the available practice tests. Plus, they talk about LSAT accommodations gone wild, approaching games from multiple angles, and they answer another LR question from the December 2013 LSAT.  Read more on our website!
July 29, 2019
Ep. 202: The Digital LSAT Sputters Into Orbit
It happened, dear listeners. The great Digital LSAT Rollout of 2019. History will look back on this day and may well wonder, “What the hell happened?” The reviews poured in. The test-takers spoke. And the show kicks off with the guys reading correspondence from the front lines about the good, the bad, and the ugly from test day. The verdict? It sounds like the test was easy, but taking the test was another story. Plus, the guys take a look at an email from friend of the show, Dean Faigman, and check in on a listener’s personal statement.    Read more on our website! 
July 22, 2019
Ep. 201: Meet a Stanford 1L
Nathan is joined by former student and Fall ’19 Stanford 1L Kevin Dousa for a wide-ranging conversation about LSAT, higher ed, and a career in law. The two discuss what it took to get into Stanford, they talk about the high cost of law school and managing undergrad loans, and Kevin provides an Upton-Sinclair-level account of working at law firms. After the conversation? Nathan slices and dices a few LR questions from the December 2013 LSAT. Read more on our website!
July 15, 2019
Ep. 200: The Best of Thinking LSAT
Wow. We made it. 200 Episodes. Two…hundred…episodes! Did y’all think we would ever make it this far? We sure didn’t. The guys thought they’d be cashed in by now, snacking on bagel chips and real ice cream on some exotic sandy shore. But then…the work of LSAT prep is never really finished, is it dear listeners? The guys settle in for a little trip down memory lane in this very special 200th episode. Goggles down. Sharpen your pencils. Strap in. And listen back to some of your favorite moments from the last 100 episodes. Read more on our website!
July 8, 2019
Ep. 199: Famously Bad At the LSAT
Sometimes your heroes fall from grace. It’s true. Even if they’re an esteemed writer for the New Yorker and a New York Times best-selling author. They can fall dear listeners, and fall hard they sometimes do. Such was the case for the Thinking LSAT team as they listened in horror to a recent LSAT rundown given by Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History podcast. Nathan and Ben laugh until they cry about how the RH team totally missed the point of the LSAT. They also dive in to some listener questions about speed, principle questions, and low-score addendums. Plus, they dive back into prep test 71 and answer LR question 2 for your infotainment. Read more on our website!
July 1, 2019
Ep. 198: LSAT Retake Limits
In 2017, LSAC lifted the limits on how many tests you could take—giving all test-takers carte blanche to take the test as many times as they needed to get the score they were after. But now they’re changing course again. The guys take a look at the new “retake” policy so you can put a new LSAT strategy in place. The guys also take a look at a listener’s personal statement, and jump in to the first LR question of the December 2013 LSAT. Plus, you’ll hear about how Nathan lost all sense of space and time on a recent boating adventure. June 27 – June scores are released via email July 15 – It’s ye olde July LSAT August 1 – The last day to sign up for the September LSAT August 28 – July scores are released via email September 21 – The September LSAT As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.   Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT Personal Statement Review Package 4:19 – Demon Updates Ben and the rest of the LSAT Demon team have been hard at work and they’re getting ready to roll out some new features. First, when you log in you can now upgrade to Premium. What’s Premium, you ask? Premium gives you access to all of the most recent tests. So if you’re itching to have the latest tests to practice with, or you just feel like you need more out of the Demon, this is for you. The team is also working on a feature that will enable you to join groups and take a practice test that simulates an actual test day. You’ll log in, join a group, and be greeted by a proctor who will control the timer and will move you through a full test. Nathan and Ben are checking in to a live proctored practice test on Sunday, June 30. If you want to take it, email to RSVP. And if you’re not a Demon user? Now’s the perfect time to sign up for a 7-day free trial so you can join in on the fun on 6/30. 8:02 – LSAC Re-take Update The LSAC is changing their policy with regards to how many LSAT attempts you can make during your lifetime, dear friends. It’s only been a few years since they created a policy under which you could take the test as many times as you damn well please. But clearly that hasn’t worked out for them. Nathan and Ben work through the veritable Logic Game of an email that LSAC sent to decode the changes. Here’s the skinny on the new policy—you can: Take a maximum of 3x tests in a year Take a maximum of 5 or 6 times in the past five years (the email isn’t clear) Take a maximum of 7x tests in your lifetime Only score 180 one time—then ya done! The new policy begins on 9/21/19! Happy testing, y’all! Read more on our website!
June 24, 2019
Ep. 197: The 3.0 GPA Cutoff
Nathan’s back from the sweltering heat of central California, and Ben’s feeling sore in his abs—but it’s not from some wild crossfit jamboree. Nope. He’s back from seeing Seinfeld in NYC. The guys talk about their past week’s travels and then dive in to an episode chock-full of LSAT news and advice. They talk about Thomas Jefferson School of Law potentially losing its accreditation, they hear from a student who took PowerScore’s live LSAT online prep course, and they offer some advice to cash-strapped and time-rich strugglahs.  As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.   Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT Personal Statement Review Package Upcoming Events: 6/27/19 – The June LSAT scores are released via email 7/15/19 – The July LSAT 8/1/19 – Registration deadline for the September LSAT 8/28/19 – July scores released 9/21/19 – September LSAT 03:08 – LSAT News The guys jump right in to an oddity they’ve uncovered about the July test. As you may know, when you receive your July score back in late August, you have the opportunity to cancel your score penalty-free and take another LSAT at no cost thru April 2020. Badass, right? It’s basically a freebie in the event you crash and burn during the first digital LSAT rollout. However, you can NOT use the September LSAT as your re-take. So if you’ve paid to register for the September LSAT, you’re payin for it and that’s that. Plus, there’s rumors out there that LSAC is going to change the lifetime LSAT limit once again! Tune in to hear the news, context, and commentary from Nathan and Ben.  17:10 – Thomas Jefferson School of Law Update Our old friends at TJSL have been in the news yet again, dear listeners. It turns out they’re skating on some very thin ice when it comes to their ABA accreditation. This may not come as a surprise to long-time listeners who will remember that the school was placed on probation in 2017. But this past week, their troubles came to a head: the ABA withdrew Thomas Jefferson’s accreditation due to mismanagement of financial resources, and…basically offering a pisspoor legal education. However, TJ’s not goin’ down without a fight. They’re appealing and will keep their approval until the appeal process and subsequent review have been completed. The guys postulate as to why TJ’s losing their accreditation and imagine a world in which more law schools are held accountable for turning y’all into the next generation of bright, capable, prosperous law pros.  Read more on our website!
June 17, 2019
Ep. 196: JD—MBAs with Rachel Gezerseh
You may have heard the siren’s song of the dual degree—the JD and the MBA. There are JD—MBA programs far and wide. But are they worth it? Nathan and Ben are joined by lawyer and author Rachel Gezerseh to chat about why anyone would want to put themselves on this arduous path. And if you do want to submit yourself to such a grueling course, what’s the best way to set yourself up for success? Tune in to hear the experts chop it up. Plus, Nathan and Ben talk proctoring the digital LSAT, taking the official test multiple times, and they slice and dice a personal statement. As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.   Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT  Personal Statement Review Package Important Dates 7/15/19 – The Great Crossover! This is the first official digital LSAT, though some students will still take a pencil-and-paper test. 8/1/19 – The last day to register for the September LSAT 9/21/19 – The September 2019 LSAT 00:52 – JD—MBAs with Rachel Gezerseh Amanda writes in and asks the guys about how prospective 1L students should navigate law school if they have their sights set on a Master’s degree (likely an MBA) after nabbing a JD. How can someone best prepare for a JD—MBA program? To help answer the question, Nathan and Ben have Law-Career Playbook author, Rachel Gezerseh (Breaking into Big Law), back on the show to hash it out. Here are some takeaways from their conversation: Your 1L year will already be incredibly demanding. Think twice before adding stress on top your law school experience with this idea of a second degree.   Seek out professionals who have taken this path—was it worth it for them to acquire two degrees? Did it really help them achieve a better career in law or business?     Check and see whether you can even find a professional who has successfully taken the path you would like to take and is clearly benefitting from their JD—MBA   Consider choosing just one—go into law or go into business. If you feel like the other will help you later on, pursue that goal at that time. Chances are it will be rare that you’ll need both degrees.    It’s never too early to begin building your network—reach out to lawyers, take them to coffee, ask questions, and start working towards a law career you’ll enjoy. Read more on our website!
June 10, 2019
Ep. 195: Law School for Free
Some will be pumped, basking in glory and achievement, and some will be sad and destitute—wallowing in disappointment. It’s the June 2019 LSAT, and some of you will have just taken it! Congrats to putting this test behind you. And for the Thinking LSAT crew this only means one thing—the July LSAT is nigh! To get you prepped for next month’s test, the guys read some detailed news about the digital rollout from LSAC, they get you pumped up about going to law school for free with some updates about the scholarship offerings at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and they cover the rest of Logic Game no. 3 from the June 2007 LSAT. Plus, you’ll get to hear an interview wherein LSAT Demon contributor, Max Youngquist speaks with a law-school applicant in Spain about using the Demon to supplement LSAT tutoring. As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben. Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT Personal Statement Review Package Upcoming Events 6/4/19 - Last day to register for the July LSAT 6/27/19 - June scores released 7/15/19 - July LSAT 8/1/19 – Registration deadline for the September LSAT 8/28/19 – August scores released 9/21/19 – September LSAT 2:34 – Notice from LSAC Are you curious about the July LSAT? It’s only a landmark test from LSAC. It’s only the rollout of the digital LSAT with crazy rules like the ability to cancel after you see your score. So if you have questions about it, that’d be pretty normal. The guys have covered this test a lot on the show and on college campuses across the country, but LSAC just dropped some more knowledge regarding this test. Tune in to hear the guys deconstruct a lengthy and verbose email from LSAC. Turns out, it’s going to be a longer waiting period to get your results back from July’s test, which will overlap the last day to enroll for the September LSAT. Translation? If you’re thinking about taking the September test, sign up before the deadline because you won’t have your July results in time to make your decision. 12:27 – Pearls vs. Turds Straight from the heart of the ‘gram, the guys review a piece of LSAT advice born of social media. You know. Think Bane talking about being born in the darkness—I WAS BORN IN IT! As a result, the advice is kind of eye-catching, like most things on Instagram. But,
June 3, 2019
Ep. 194: Gaming the System
Nathan and Ben are just back from a weekend in DC delivering a Personal Statement Workshop and they jump right into the show debriefing each other on their experiences teaching the class. And while Nathan laments he couldn’t spend more time causing mischief with Ben’s kids, they both had a blast going deep on personal statements with 2020 1L hopefuls. After the workshop recap, the guys touch on a bunch of topics ranging from how to properly time yourself during practice tests to whether community-college grades can be a boon to your LSAC GPA. They also take a look at a listener-submitted graph covering 5 months of practice-test data, and they break out the knives and blow torches for a personal statement review. As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben. Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT Personal Statement Review Package Upcoming Events 6/3/19 - The June 3rd LSAT! 6/4/19 - Last day to register for the July LSAT 6/27/19 - June scores released 7/15/19 - July LSAT Thinking LSAT Personal Statement Workshop If you missed out on Nathan’s and Ben’s personal statement workshop this weekend, don’t fret. The guys have posted the class online! Check it out here and follow along with the personal statements they cover in the workshop: The workshop. The personal statements. ( 6:21 – Gaming the system? Listener of the show Will recently asked a question via the comments section on the Thinking LSAT website. Will’s sitting pretty with a 176 official score backed up by a 3.9 LSAC GPA. Pretty sweet, huh? But ‘not so fast,’ Will says. It turns out that Will had a GPA of 3.7. It was only when he factored in his good grades from (non-transferrable) community college classes that he got this boost. Now he’s worried that the elite schools he’s planning to apply to are going to scour his transcripts and determine that he “gamed the system,” with community classes. Should he worry, he wonders?
May 27, 2019
Ep. 193: Logic Games Home Runs
Did you know that if you sort through all of the possible outcomes of any given logic game, it’s likely that you’ll be lookin’ at less than 18 possible outcomes. Not that many, right? And when you know all of the outcomes of a game, chances are you can slay the questions. In this episode, the guys get gnarly with Logic Game 4 from the June 2007 LSAT. They make worlds, they split worlds, and then they split the splits. It gets wild. They also share an email from a law school who wants you to apply to the school so they can give you admissions advice (ummm…insert crying while laughing emoji, pls). Lastly, you’ll hear about the latest from the LSAT Demon, AND you can get a first look at the new Thinking LSAT website. Happy (Logic) gaming! As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben. Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram (upcoming events) LSAT Demon Strategy Prep Fox LSAT Personal Statement Review Package Important Dates 6/3 – The June LSAT 6/4 – Registration cutoff for the July LSAT (SIGN UP! This puppy is a freebie, and you can cancel your score without penalty AFTER you see how you did…) 6/27 – June scores are released 7/15 – July LSAT 7:17 – Email 1—Alana received a rather amusing and ingenious email from Wash U. Turns out they are writing folks and offering FREE* law-school-admissions advice. Of course, they mention, it sure would be easier to give you said advice if you actually applied to Wash U. so they can review your application documents during the consultation. The guys half love this slick move by Wash U, but they’re also hearing Admiral Ackbar issuing a warning from the cosmos. On one hand, this move basically starts a negotiation with Wash U. You apply to their school. You get a one on one with their staff so you can feel each other out. Pretty cool so far… But their free advice will probably leave you with some warm and fuzzies about Wash U., increasing your chances of actually attending the school if you get in. On the other hand, whether or not you go to Wash U., you are getting advice from admissions officers who will probably share a valuable perspective on your admissions docs. We’d love to hear about this experience if any listeners dare to give it a try… 23:08 –
May 20, 2019
Ep. 192: Understanding Your LSAT Scores
Studying for the LSAT can be hard work. And when you feel like your practice test results are all over the place, even after weeks or months of work, it doesn’t make it any easier. Nathan and Ben get it, and today they dive into the question of interpreting—or not interpreting—your LSAT scores. Plus, you’ll hear more about financial aid incentives from our old friends at Concordia University School of Law in Boise, ID. And the guys set up Logic Game no. 3 from the June 2007 LSAT. As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben. Thinking LSAT Facebook Group Instagram ( (upcoming events) LSAT Demon ( Strategy Prep ( Fox LSAT ( Personal Statement Review Package ( Important Dates. 6/3 – It’s the June 2019 LSAT 6/4 – The last day to register for the July 2019 LSAT 6/27 – June LSAT scores will be released via email 7/15 – It’s the July LSAT! Otherwise known as “the digital transformation.” Make sure you register for this test. It might be $100, which kinda sucks, but it’s basically a low-risk shot at the test. You can see what the digital LSAT is all about, and when your score comes back, you can take a look and decide whether or not to cancel. If you do cancel, it’ll still show up as a cancel on your score history. But you’ll be able to know exactly what score you’re cancelling, and how you faired on an official test day. 4:47 – LSAT FUNdamental: Understanding your LSAT Scores You sit down, you ready your pencil, you dial up 35 minutes on your phone’s timer, and you get ready for your first ever crack at the LSAT: the cold diagnostic. Maybe you’re curious. Maybe you’re relaxed. Maybe you’re anxious about what the test has in store for you. No matter how you feel, this is the start of your LSAT journey. It could be weeks or months or even years of study, practice tests and official tests before you nail the 120-180 score that will propel you into your 1L semester. For many law-students-to-be, this is an arduous path full of elated highs and disappointing setbacks that can make you wonder: am I even making any f*cking progress on this thing? Nathan and Ben set out to set the record straight about the range of practice test scores you’ll experience during your LSAT study in today’s LSAT FUNdamental. Here are some key takeaways: * Your 120-180 is an imprecise measure of your progress as you prepare for the LSAT. * Making progress has LESS to do with your score, and more to do with WHICH questions you got wrong and WHY you got them wrong. If you feel like you’re beginning to understand the test at a deeper level, you’re on the right track. * Don’t obsess over your score. It will get in the way to your overall progress. * The LSAT scale is just sixty points: 120-180. If after a month you move from a 140 to a 144, that’s great. In fact, moving the needle one point per week is a massive improvement. And a sustained two points a week is more or less unheard of. Because the scale is small,
May 13, 2019
Ep. 191: Desert Island LSAT
5:48 – Bad Reviews At long last, the guys pry open the lid of iTunes, hack through the stacks of glowing 5-star reviews, and check out the dank and sad corner of 1-star, 2-star, and 3-star
May 8, 2019
Ep. 190: The Guys Roast Their Own Personal Statements
Put on your slippers and pull up your favorite comfortable chair, dear listeners, because you’re in for a treat. Ben and Nathan take advantage of the calm before the summer LSATs to do story-time theater. They read, or rather laugh their way through their own personal statements from when they applied to law school. Plus you’ll hear some advice about Ben’s “Murph” and how it could apply to your LSAT study. News Flash Mark it, friends. June 4, 2019 is the last day to register for the July LSAT. And Nathan and Ben take some time to put folks’ fears at bay. The guys talk about how this LSAT will be the same, if not better than any LSAT you’ve ever attempted. No precious seconds bubbling in an answer. Just tap a piece of glass. No accidentally erasing a correct answer and forgetting where the fuck you are. Just tap to change your answer. It’s gonna be sweet. And the best part? You can still bring a pencil and scrap paper to the test to do any writing that you like. The digital LSAT has tons of upside. The guys tell you all of the reasons why you should absolutely register for and take the July test. 5:24 – LSAT Demon Updates Ben and co. have been hard at work, finalizing some new features for the Demon. Most notable amongst them is the full-test feature. Soon you’ll be able to smash out a complete timed test right in the Demon. The guys are hoping to roll this out to the preview site this week, so stay tuned! Meanwhile, Nathan’s been loading the Demon with a ton of new written explanations for questions throughout. If you’re working on a passage or a question you just don’t understand or can’t seem to get right, hit the “help” button in the platform to request an explanation from Nathan or Ben. 8:08 – The Murph While y’all are hard at work cramming for the LSAT, Ben’s preparing for his own personal Everest. It’s “the Murph.” An insane cross fit workout that Ben’s going to attempt in May. Ben polled folks for advice on how to prepare and get through the famous workout, and listener Frankie wrote in with some pro advice. Frankie recommends that throughout the workout, if you feel the need to stop, stop. Then count to three—one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, etc.—and get back into the workout. Frankie recommends not to stop for longer than that. Of course, Nathan pipes in with thoughts on how this gem advice can be applied to LSAT study. 11:00 – Pearls vs. Turds In today’s Pearls vs. Turds, a listener offers this advice for test takers with accommodations. He says that even if you have accommodated testing (like time and a half) you should still practice at a 35-minute pace. He found that if he practiced at 70 minutes, he kind of lost focus throughout the section and became comfortable with that amount of time. As a result he had pacing and accuracy issues even with extended time. However, when he bumped his practice back to 35-minute sections, the renewed sense of urgency throughout helped him stay sharp and engaged. After practicing this way, he found that he fared better on practice tests with accommodated timing. So is this something you should try at home if you get accommodations? Ben says this can bake in bad habits, and Nathan agrees—you should practice how you’re gonna play. The guys almost throw this in the Turd pile, but deem it a Tie considering this seemed to work for this listener. 21:16 – The Guys’ Personal Statements The stars of the show today aren’t visiting guests or listener questions. Nope. It’s a pair of personal statements.
April 29, 2019
Ep. 189: The Zen of LSAT Prep with Nina Marinaro
March LSAT scores are rolling in and the phones are ringing off the hook. Nathan and Ben are starting to hear tales of triumph for some test takers and bitter […]
April 22, 2019
Ep. 188: Advanced Conditional Reasoning on the LSAT
None. Some. Most. All… When you smash these words together in conditional reasoning statements, things can get tricky, fast. The guys walk through advanced conditional reasoning and share how they […]
April 15, 2019
Ep. 187: 154 to 175 with LSAT Tutor Max Youngquist
Today the guys have a wide-ranging conversation with Thinking LSAT team member, Demon contributor, and LSAT tutor Max Youngquist about his LSAT journey. They talk about his trek from 154 […]
April 8, 2019
Ep. 186: Craig Conover and Reading Comprehension Question Types
Nathan and Ben have been crazy busy leading up to the March 2019 LSAT, but they each take a brief pause from their wild schedules to drop some sweet pearls […]
April 1, 2019
Ep. 185: Last Week Before the LSAT: A Movie and Victory
They may be fresh back from red-eye flights and late-night ragers, but they’re also fresh back and fired up from a weekend in Vegas. The guys fondly reminisce about their […]
March 25, 2019
Ep. 184: Two weeks before the LSAT
It’s a little less than two weeks until the Spring 2019 LSAT and the guys talk LSAT FUNdamentals for the final weeks of your test prep. They share how to […]
March 18, 2019
Ep. 183: LSAT Assumptions are FUNdamental
On this episode the guys go live on Instagram to answer your burning LSAT questions. But before they stream that LSAT wisdom, they dish some LSAT wisdom with another LSAT […]
March 11, 2019
Ep. 182: The artist formerly known as Grouping Games
Between Ben getting snubbed by his neighbors at the ABA and Nathan booking talks around the country, there’s never a dull moment in the Thinking LSAT world. Today, the guys […]
March 4, 2019
Ep. 181: Conditional Reasoning is FUNdamental
Ben’s been getting better rest, and Nathan’s been playing golf with his best friends in some terrible weather conditions. And today? They get to dive into IF/THEN statements and conditional […]
February 25, 2019
Ep. 180: LSAT Question Types
Today on the show, the guys continue their LSAT FUNdamentals series with an introduction to question types in LR. They break question types into two families. They discuss why these […]
February 18, 2019
Ep. 179: Logic Games Fundamentals
It’s no secret that the Logic Games represent the biggest challenge for most folks who are starting with the LSAT. But the good news? The games are perfectly solvable. That […]
February 11, 2019
Ep. 178: The Law Career Playbook with Rachel Gezerseh
If you’re a long-time listener of the show, you may be questioning whether or not you should go to law school. And if you’ve decided you’re going to take the […]
February 4, 2019
Ep. 177: The Path of Most Resistance
Nathan’s excited to travel east for a joint talk with Ben at GW. And Ben’s excited, too, even though he’s also got a bizarre groundhog-day cold. But before they drop […]
January 28, 2019
Ep. 176: Hello, LSAT Fundamentals
Ben’s just finished shoveling his snow-covered driveway, and while Nathan’s pumped to travel east for their joint talk on changes to the LSAT, he’s not thrilled to hear about the […]
January 21, 2019
Ep. 175: Don’t Plan. Do.
Ben’s an outlaw, y’all. And the show opens with a badass tale of Ben flaunting the authorities as he speeds around the DC beltway with his LSAT vanity license plates. […]
January 14, 2019
Ep. 174: Letters from Janky Law Schools
5:40 – Ben gives an update about the LSAT Demon—tune in to hear about the latest features coming to the guys’ prep platform. If you haven’t tried the Demon yet, […]
January 7, 2019
Ep. 173: All Aboard for Logic Games
All aboard, dear listeners. In the first episode of the new year, you’ll embark on an oceanic adventure with Nathan and Ben in an episode they recorded before the June […]
December 31, 2018
Ep. 172: Creative Destruction
It’s the last Thinking LSAT of 2018! And the guys waste little time getting to your pressing questions. Today on the show you’ll hear about California bar passage rates (among […]
December 24, 2018
Ep. 171: Slightly Unprofessional
The LSAT is changing, y’all. It’s keeping Ben and Nathan on their toes. LSAC’s been sending rogue emails to students who are freaking out about impending changes to the test, […]
December 17, 2018
Ep. 170: Inside the Georgetown Interview
Hey all, Nathan here. I was supposed to fill in on this week’s show notes but I completely forgot. My bad! Producer Adam’s beautiful notes will return next week. As […]
December 10, 2018
Ep. 169: Asking for a Friend
Ben’s up and at ‘em. Nathan’s shaking off the cobwebs after a rowdy evening. And the guys kick off the last month of 2018 with a show packed with some […]
December 3, 2018
Ep. 168: Winning on the Facts
Thanksgiving is nigh (at the time of this recording), and Ben is just returned with a last-minute-Turkey-day bounty from Costco. Nathan grills him about his experience and the guys wax […]
November 26, 2018
Ep. 167: The Impersonal Statement
Even if you’ve got writing chops, it can be tough to write effectively about yourself. When the guys review a personal statement, that’s one of the first things they notice. […]
November 19, 2018
Ep. 166: Privileges Revoked
The boys are back in the saddle fresh after election night and the show takes off with a rowdy discussion about politics. Or, y’know, a discussion about how the guys […]
November 12, 2018
Ep. 165: Try Harder
Nathan’s had a rowdy night of board game playin’, and that gets Ben pumped up about backgammon on this All Hallow’s Eve recording of the show. Today’s Thinking LSAT is […]
November 5, 2018
Ep. 164: The Future of Justice
The guys are fresh back from Chi-town. Their bellies are full of Chicago red hots and deep dish pie. Their spirits are high after hanging out with class full of […]
October 29, 2018
Ep. 163: Difficult Conversations
The guys are amped up for their Thinking LSAT Live Course in Chicago. And to Nathan’s chagrin, he’ll be packing some heavier garments in preparation for the freakin’ snowfall they […]
October 22, 2018
Ep. 162: Right for the Wrong Reasons
Well, y’all, the time for change is nigh! The digital LSAT is coming in 2019, and LSAC has drafted a press release to give you all the juicy info. The […]
October 15, 2018
Ep. 161: Bad LSAT Score? How to Move On.
Did you have a September crash? Or have you otherwise had a disappointing LSAT performance in the past? You know, the kind where you have a 10-20 point drop from […]
October 8, 2018
Ep. 160: For-Profit Law Schools with Dr. Riaz Tejani
In this episode, the guys get real about for-profit law schools. How do they operate? Why have there been class action law suits brought against them? Why have some lost […]
October 1, 2018
Ep. 159: Moderately Delicious
We’re in the wake of the September LSAT and the guys are already firing up their new classes to get 1L’s-to-be prepped for the November test. Nathan’s been enjoying ridiculously […]
September 24, 2018
Ep. 158: The Billy Madison of Swim Class
The leaves are turning. The last of the summer grass is getting a trim. And there’s a hint of pumpkin spice on the wind. It’s autumn – or at least […]
September 17, 2018
Ep. 157: Trees Grow as Tall as They Can
Even though the guys have tried to omit discussions of the weather at the top of the show, the summer heat is getting to Ben. But he’s sweating it out […]
September 10, 2018
Ep. 156: The Man with the Kind Eyes
Nathan is buzzing, fresh off the recent Thinking LSAT live class in NYC. Ben is pumping the AC to combat the suffocating summer heat. And the guys have prepped an […]
September 3, 2018
Ep. 155: Meet the LSAT Demon
The summer’s winding down, and as the days grow shorter the guys lament the swan song of the once-great Movie Pass. With so many new rules and restrictions on the […]
August 27, 2018
Ep. 154: Getting into law school with Ann Levine
With all the changes in law school admissions standards over the past year, the guys have received a bunch of questions about putting your best foot forward when applying to […]
August 20, 2018
Ep. 153: A Bit Plebeian
The Thinking LSAT community is growing, dear listeners. And it’s badass. The Facebook group is at nearly 1,000 members. There are more patrons than ever (thanks, y’all). And the Thinking […]
August 13, 2018
Ep. 152: Be a River Guide
Today on the show the guys cover a ton of ground. You’ll hear the latest news from LSAC about some changes coming to the test next year, and you’ll get […]
August 6, 2018
Ep. 151: Dispatches from the North
Today the guys are joined by LSAT expert Graeme Blake to answer some listener mail from Canada. Graeme runs the site and is the moderator of the LSAT forum […]
July 30, 2018
Ep. 150: Perceived vs. Actual Value
The guys are here for the second time this week with a BONUS episode. Why, you might ask? Because Nathan and Ben are freakin’ amped up from the Thinking LSAT […]
July 24, 2018
Ep. 149: Semicolon Reduction Program
The boys are…back?…from their Thinking LSAT live class in NYC. Well, Ben is anyway. Nathan got sucked in to the city that never sleeps and has been wandering The High […]
July 23, 2018
Ep. 148: Live in NYC
Live from New York! It’s Thinking LSAT Live. Jump into the classroom with Ben and Nathan as they field 20 questions from their joint prep class in the big apple. […]
July 17, 2018
Ep. 147: Detailed and Nuanced Reading
Welcome to July dear listeners. Summertime is in full swing, and if you follow your nose you might just smell the lingering scent of Nathan Fox’s BBQ ribs on the […]
July 9, 2018
Ep. 146: Ben tries Halo Top
Ben’s back from the beach, and guess what, dear listeners. He’s brought a pint of black cherry Halo Top with him. You’ll get to hear him experience this frozen substance […]
July 2, 2018
Ep. 145: Significantly out of Compliance
This week, the Thinking LSAT team is reduced to a party of one. While Ben lives it up at the beach, Nathan mans the helm on his lonesome and burns […]
June 25, 2018
5-section Online LSAT Proctor
Use our online LSAT proctor to time yourself through a full-length, five-section practice test. Our proctor includes a 15-minute break just like test-day. Accommodations virtual proctors: 53-minute sections (5-section test) 70-minute […]
June 22, 2018
Ep. 144: James Bond on Dial-up
The June test is behind us all and, well, it’s been eerily quiet in Nathan’s and Ben’s inboxes. The guys are guessing this means the test went pretty well for […]
June 18, 2018
Ep. 143: You Been Waitlisted
Join the guys in NYC on July 14-15. They’re hosting a weekend LSAT class that will show you how to approach each section of the test, how to effectively review your […]
June 11, 2018
Ep. 142: An explosion went off
The June LSAT is right around the corner and Nathan and Ben have an action-packed show for you. Get ready to get up close and personal with Ben’s awkward gym […]
June 5, 2018
Ep. 141: I turned down Harvard Law School
The guys jump into a bunch of listener emails and specifically sidestep their usual reports on east- and west-coast weather patterns. Instead, they chat cinema. Fireside style. Nathan talks Deadpool […]
May 29, 2018
Ep. 140: Dueling Degrees
Ben’s been experiencing some near-biblical weather patterns out in Virginia and Nathan’s staying dry in sunny LA. The guys chat about the weather and Nathan tells us approximately how long […]
May 22, 2018
Thinking LSAT 35-Minute Timer
When students write in for self-studying advice, by far the most common piece of advice we give is to take (and thoroughly review) daily 35-minute timed sections. It’s the bread […]
May 22, 2018
Ep. 139: Espousing a Bevy of Promulgations
Is it spring fever, or is Nathan just plain ill? The guys get back to their regularly scheduled Thinking LSAT programming, but Nathan’s been sleeping 18 hours on end trying […]
May 15, 2018
Ep. 138: RC Deep Dive – June ’07 LSAT
Heretofore titled “Episode X,” the guys pull back the curtain and give you a behind the scenes look at how (and when) they recorded this episode. Basically, if this thing […]
May 8, 2018
Ep. 137: The Sufficient-Necessary Machine
Spring is upon us, and the guys are helping students gear up for the June and July tests. Nathan and Ben catch up on what they’ve been up to in […]
May 1, 2018
Ep. 136: Accommopocalypse Part Deux
Are you signed up for the June AND July LSAT exams? Well if so, don’t expect to get a refund if you crush it on the June exam and decide […]
April 24, 2018
Ep. 135: Zombie Horse
If you think you’re headed for a six figure salary straight out of law school, think again. In this episode, the guys thoroughly dismantle some misleading search results from Google […]
April 17, 2018
Ep. 134: Inevitability is for Raindrops
Nathan calls in from Georgia which touches off the episode with a review of the Georgian climate. The guys talk about the growing Thinking LSAT community—have you found us on […]
April 10, 2018
Ep. 133: For Obvious Reasons
In this episode, the guys answer a bunch of your burning LSAT questions, but not before talking about Ben’s recent use of Movie Pass and Nathan’s experience as a Couch […]
April 3, 2018
Ep. 132: Patrons of the Law
It turns out Pepperdine made quite a booboo when reporting the median LSAT score of their matriculating law school students to the U.S. News Rankings. Someone somewhere shit the bed […]
March 27, 2018
Ep. 131: On Hind Teat
Well, dear listeners, they’ve finally done it. It turns out LSAC is being held in contempt of court. After LSAC lost their lawsuit regarding accommodations, they were tasked with establishing […]
March 20, 2018
Ep. 130: Slightly Bloviated
Nathan and Ben have started their spring courses to prep law-school hopefuls for the June LSAT. Ben shares the pearls of wisdom he offers his students on their first evening […]
March 13, 2018
Ep. 129: All Systems Nominal
Nathan is back from his trips to Portland and then San Diego, but the guys have seen brighter days. Ben is braving the wind from the storms in DC, and […]
March 6, 2018
Ep. 128: The Turd in the Punchbowl
Nathan is back from his snowy golf trip to the north and Ben wants to know about his time in Portland before diving into listener mail. But more importantly, we’ve got […]
February 27, 2018
Ep. 127: Benevolent Brainwashing
Ben is holding down the fort in DC while Nathan is gearing up for a cold and rainy golf trip to the PNW. But that doesn’t stop the guys from […]
February 20, 2018
Ep. 126: A Love Letter to the LSAT
A new week and a new batch of listener mail. But first the guys talk about the current craziness of world events and the political climate here in the states. […]
February 13, 2018
Ep. 125: Plan Don’t Cram
Thanks to you, dear listeners, our inbox experienced a wave of new listener mail and the guys get to work answering your LSAT questions. But first, exciting LSAC news! It […]
February 6, 2018
Ep. 124: It’s Like Eating A Mirage
Even though the weather is giving him a rare break from the icy cold, Ben is in the depths of grade-school bureaucracy. But that doesn’t stop the guys from finishing—that’s […]
January 29, 2018
Ep. 123: Our Most Loved and Most Hated Show
Ben calls in from home, Nathan is soaking up the rays in LA, and the guys dive in to a bunch of listener mail. But first: if you’ve been seeing […]
January 22, 2018
Ep. 122: Stop statsturbating
January is in full swing, we’re woefully behind on emails, and Nathan is flexing his Christmas gift to himself: Movie Pass. The guys give a brief review of Star Wars: […]
January 16, 2018
Ep. 121: Third time’s the charm
After a few foiled attempts, the guys have FINALLY recorded episode 121. And it’s a good thing, because there are TONS of updates. Hear about LSAC releasing December LSAT scores […]
January 9, 2018
Ep. 120: Back to the LSAT
Welcome to 2018, dear listeners. Nathan and Ben ring in the new year by answering a few LSAT questions on air. By popular demand, the guys tackle logical-reasoning and reading-comprehension […]
January 2, 2018
Ep. 119: New ABA 509 WTF
This week the guys take a look at the recently revised ABA 509 reports and discuss the shortcomings of its updated design. It’s like, a big wtf. Where are the […]
December 26, 2017
Ep. 118: To Stem First, or not to Stem First?
Ben has entered the cryptocurrency market with some speculative “investments” in Bitcoin. And the guys take a shallow dive into the world of personal finance before turning to some interesting […]
December 19, 2017
Ep. 117: Tales from PT83
Hot on the heels of the December LSAT, the guys share (some pretty funny) stories from test-takers across the country. The report? For the most part—it’s the same as always. […]
December 12, 2017
Ep. 116: Don’t pay to apply, either
The guys are back from their Thanksgiving breaks from reality. Ben splashed around the Atlantic while Nathan couched it in Tahoe smashing bags of haribo bears. And from their respective […]
December 5, 2017
Ep. 115: Negotiating Law School Scholarships
The guys are back from Thanksgiving (though we recorded just before) with a bunch of LSAT and lawyerly news. Ben and Nathan give thanks to an anonymous tip-jar jangler before […]
November 28, 2017
Ep. 114: Perfect, the Enemy of the Good
Get ready to gasp LSAT Thinkers. There are whispers hither and thither that the LSAT may be going away. The ABA requires law schools to use a “valid and reliable” […]
November 21, 2017
Ep. 113: Personal Statement Problems
The Dodgers lost the Series. It’s cold in DC. And the guys