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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today, I'm joined by Jay Newman. Jay is the Pit Master at Shotgun Willie's in Nashville, TN as well as the owner of Newman Family BBQ. In addition to BBQ, Jay has a history in ministry and music. He's also an Eagles fan! But today we discuss the idea of Christian Anarchy. Both Jay and I share a bit about our political journeys and how we have found the language of Christian Anarchy to be a faithful attempt at political engagement with the kingdoms of this world. If after this hour you need more talk or more resources on Christian Anarchy, here are three podcast episodes and two books...

• I Think I Might Be A Christian Anarchist!? with Jay Newman and Preston Sprinkle - Theology in the Raw
• Christian Anarchism: Dr. Alexandre Christoyannopoulos and Preston Sprinkle - Theology in the Raw
• Learning the Ethics of Bonhoeffer - Catacomb Podcast
• Anarchy and Christianity by Jacques Ellul
• The Anatomy of the State by Murray N. Rothbard

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This is our fourth episode in the mini series, I Disagree with Dave. You can listen to the previous three here (059 - Hell) and here (060 - Same-Sex Relationships) and here (Theological Grab Bag). Today, I'm joined by Dan Ulrich, man behind @youthgroupmemes, to discuss the nature of healing. When you or someone you know is ill, is that God's will? If yes, well...why? If no and we pray for healing and it doesn't happen, why? Dan and I discuss where we see things differently as we both try to decipher what God is calling us to and how we can be most faithful to his word. We pray this challenges you and encourages you.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This is our third episode in the mini series, I Disagree with Dave. You can listen to the previous two here (059 - Hell) and here (060 - Same-Sex Relationships). Today, I'm joined by Andy Sommers to discuss our theological journeys. Over the 5ish years that Andy and I have known each other, we've both evolved and in different direction. We explore what brought us to where we are and interrogate our beliefs a bit. Andy is in the Reformed/Calvinist camp and so we take a look at some of those teachings specifically and touch on a few issues that have been hot buttons in the Reformed Twittersphere over the last year(s).

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This is our second episode in a series called 'I Disagree with Dave.' Today, Alex DeMarco is up and he disagrees with Dave on the nature of same sex relationships. Alex is fully affirming and Dave is not. As two straight men having this conversation, we absolutely wanted to point you in the direction of gay Christians who have wrestled through these topics themselves. Those resources range from affirming to non-affirming as well and you can find them here:

• God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines
• Bad Theology Kills by Kevin Garcia
• Same Sex Unions in Premodern Europe by John Boswell
• A Time to Embrace by Williams Stacy Johnson
• Changing Our Mind by David Gushee
• Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry
• Heavy Burdens by Bridget Eileen Rivera (and here is a link to my interview with Bridget)
• Sam Alberry

Alex has previous been on two other episodes talking about Christian ethics and the inerrancy of Scripture.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today begins the first episode of the "I Disagree With Dave" series! I'm joined by Emily DiLorenzo, who you may recall from episode 9 where we discussed the Enneagram. Emily joins me this time to disagree with me about the nature of hell. For a better understanding of my point of view on the subject, check out episode 2.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today I'm joined by authors David C. Cramer and Myles Werntz who recently released a book entitled, A Field Guide to Christian Nonviolence: Key Thinkers, Activists, and Movements for the Gospel of Peace. We discuss Anabaptism, nonresistance vs nonviolence, violence vs force, and the history of nonviolence thought and movements in America. Listen today and grab a copy for yourself!

Other Resources:

The Anabaptist Vision (article) by Harold S. Bender

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today I'm joined by author and advocate, pastor and professor Jay Augustine. His latest book, Called to Reconciliation: How the Church Can Model Justice, Diversity, and Inclusion releases February 8 and is the topic of our conversation today. Jay has put in the work both in the classroom and in real world. You'll love his insight and enjoy this conversation. Listen for ways to win a free copy!

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

For the final episode of 2021, Dan Lein and I sit down to discuss what makes for 'Christian' art. You'll hear us live react to the most recent God's Not Dead trailer, discuss The Chosen, Seinfeld, and mostly Bo Burnham's Inside. Enjoy!

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This week, I'm joined by Bridget Eileen Rivera to discuss her book Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways LGBTQ Christians Face Harm in the Church. Bridget is gay, celibate, and a Christian whose blog, Meditations of a Traveling Nun, is a leading resource on gay celibacy. Rivera is currently pursuing her PhD in sociology from the City University of New York Graduate Center. You can follow her @travelingnun on Instagram and Twitter.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This week's episode is a bit different. I'm joined by Leah Hallahan and we discuss our recent trip to Walt Disney World. What's it like to do vacation, much less a Disney vacation, with three little ones? What were our favorite parts? What was it like with current masking situation? Why should Leah be the next CEO of Disney? We explore all this and more!

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

Today I am joined by Dr. Felicia Su Wong, a cultural sociologist of media and digital technologies, currently serving as professor of sociology at Westmont College in Santa Barbara. We discuss her book, OUT NOW!, Restless Devices: Recovering Personhood, Presence, and Place in the Digital Age. Our technologies are forming us whether we know it or not, so Felicia and I discuss the importance of intentionality when it comes to our devices. We also discuss ways we can incorporate "counterliturgies" so that we are formed into the person of Christ. I'm sure you'll enjoy this conversation so listen away and then go and get a copy of her book. 

Other Resources 

• (Article) Locked In, Cradle to Grave by Felicia Wu Song
• https://feliciawusong.com/ 
• (Video) Digital Life as Secular Liturgies: A Matter of Christian Formation by Felicia Wu Song 
• (Book) You Are What You Love by James K. Smith 
• (Book) Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman 
• (Article) Facebook's Dangerous Experiment with Teen Girls by Jonathan Haidt 
• 044 You Are Not Your Own w/ Alan Noble 

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today I am joined by Stu Garrard formerly of Delirious and now the creative mind behind The Beatitudes Project. Stu's desire to live the Jesus way and show others how they can take part in this upside down kingdom is truly infectious. I appreciate him and his work greatly, and I'm sure that you will as well! Be sure to check out the website (linked above) where you can get yourself a copy of the book, listen to the album, and even engage with the small group curriculum.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Brian Zahnd is the founding pastor of Word of Life church in St. Joseph, Missouri. Through 40 years of pastoring, Brian has experience his own version of deconstruction and watched others go through theirs. In his most recent book, When Everything Is On Fire: Faith Forged From The Ashes, Brian extends an invitation to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction. This conversation about our current cultural moment in light of Church History was full of wisdom and insight. Brian has helped me in my own de/reconstruction process and I'm sure this book will help you in yours.

Catch more of Brian's writing on his website and give him a follow on twitter.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

We are now in a time where the church isn’t by default a place people go to find purpose and meaning and pastors are people who are given the benefit of the doubt in being wiser and closer to truth. The question at the core of this reality is how then should Christians operate in a world like this? John and I try to get there... 

For John's previous appearance: 05 Do Christains Put too much Emphasis on the Bible? w/ John Chaffee 

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

On this week's episode, Rob Cook and I are joined by Alex DeMarco. Alex is a project editor for Baker Academic and Brazos Press, my college buddy, and author of this article: Sacrificing LGBTQ+ Well-Being and More on the Altar of an Inerrant Bible. This was published after Cairn University made the decision to disband their entire Graduate and Undergraduate Social Work programs. Rob, Alex, and I discuss the article, Cairn's decision, and the inerrancy of the Bible. 

For Alex's previous appearance on TOL go here: 021 Is 'Right or Wrong' the Right Question? 

For further TOL discussions on how to read/view the Bible check out these:
04 Falling In and Out of Love with the Bible (w/ Rich Dugan)
05 Do Christains Put too much Emphasis on the Bible? w/ John Chaffee
027 Jonah - Fact of Fiction 

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

Buckle up! This is such a fun episode. I LOVED talking with Kevin. As you'll hear, I asked him to come on to talk about why we don't talk about money. We did that, but we did so much more. We talk about humility and pride, the role we play in determining our fate, the experience vs the reason of faith, and how to recognize and defeat the powers and principalities in your life. ENJOY! 

SOME LINKS 

Why Would Anyone Go to Church?: A Young Community's Quest to Reclaim Church for Good by Kevin Makins 

Naming the Powers: The Language of Power in the New Testament by Walter Wink 

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

At this point, you've all heard about the Texas Abortion Law. I am joined by recent Baylor Law graduate, Tamer Abouras, to ask him to break down the specifics of the law. We also both share our general approach to the abortion conversation and our hopes for Christian involvement moving forward.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today, Rob, Cory, and myself play and 80s movie trivia game and discuss our top-3 books. Let me know in the comments below how well you did at the game and tell us your favorite 80s movie and some of your top books!

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Rob's Books:

1. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

2. How Should We Then Live

3. Grimm’s Fairytales

Cory's Books:

1. Gaining by Losing

2. Black (Ted Dekker)

3. Cost of Discipleship

Dave's Books:

1. Horse and His Boy

2. Ruthless Elimination of Hurry

3. Love Over Fear

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Today, I am joined by Elizabeth Passarella author of Good Apple: Tales of a Southern Evangelical in New York. You'll LOVE this book! I did, my wife did, my co-host for the day Serena Garofolo did. In this interview we discuss Elizabeth's choice to write with such honesty and vulnerability, finding God in the messiness of life, and so much more! Enjoy this interview and go by the book today!

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

Today, Cory Murphy and I catch up on the craziness of the last 18 months and discuss what leading through transition looks like while everyone is dealing with a pandemic. 

Resources Mention:

Winsome Conviction: Disagreeing without Dividing the Church by Tim Muehlhoff and Richard Langer

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. There will be tears. Maybe only mine, but tears nonetheless. Leah said it would be a good idea to record a conversation with me on fatherhood. It was therapeutic for me and hopefully there is something in here for you.  

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The Gospel Comes with a House Key by Rosaria Butterfield 

The Art of Neighboring by Dave Runyan and Jay Pathak 

What Is a Missional Community? by SOMA

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Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics to Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb by Ken Giles

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. In anticipation of the new season, we are counting down the top 5 most listened to episodes. Today we revisit episode 004, Rich Dugan and I talk about our evolving relationship with the Bible - how we've fallen in and out of love with it and then back in again, and resources that have helped us get the most out of the Bible. 

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Modest Was Never Hottest by Dave Hallahan
How We Read the Bible: 8 Ways to Engage the Bible with Our Students by Matt Laidlaw 
Habits of Grace: Enjoying Jesus through Spiritual Disciplines by David Mathis 
The Bible Binge

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HEY! Remember me? I'm back in your ear holes with a book review of Jonathan Pennington's Jesus, The Great Philosopher: Rediscovering the Wisdom Needed for the Good Life

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• Conquering Codependency by Pat Springle
• Changes That Heal: 4 Practical Steps to a Happier, Healthier You by Henry Cloud
• Boundaries: When to Say Yes, How to Say No To Take Control of Your Life by Henry Cloud and John Townsend
• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: How to Stay Emotionally Healthy and Spiritually Alive in the Chaos of the Modern World by John Mark Comer

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

This is an interview I had with Dan White Jr over the summer. You may have heard an abbreviated version then, but this is the full-length version that was originally saved for our Patreon members. In light of the recent events at the National Prayer Breakfast and our 2020 presidential election ramping up, I thought revisiting this conversation was important. Dan is the author of Love Over Fear: Facing Monsters, Befriending Enemies, and Healing Our Polarized World. You can purchase the book and check out other materials related to the book at LoveOverFearProject.com. 

Also check out Will Somebody Please Hate My Enemies For Me? by David French

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

It's just me today. I recently went and saw Just Mercy, the story of Bryan Stevenson and the Equal Justice Initiative. It was awesome! So I talk a little bit about the movie, the death penalty, and then I get into why I have grown to hold a view of nonviolence. It's not something I have always held to, but it is something I hold to now. I would go so far as to say it's obvious to me now. But there is certainly grace for those who disagree. Give a listen and tell me why I'm wrong! We'll fight about it.

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

Mark Charles is running for president as an independent candidate. He joined the show for episode 14 back in July. He makes his return and we cover a wide swath of topics which include - his campaigning to Native peoples, the impeachment of President Trump, furthering diversity while ending polarization, and the assassination of Gen. Soleimani.

Be sure to check out his campaign at  https://www.markcharles2020.com/

And his book: Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing, Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective.

I'm joined by the ladies from @thebeautifulbetweenpodcast. Serena, Kelli, and myself discuss our favorite albums, podcasts, books, movies, streamed shows, and songs from the year that was. Below is a list (no links - sorry, not sorry) of our favorites.

Albums

• Lover by Taylor Swift
• What You See Is What You Get by Luke Combs
• Happiness Begins by The Jonas Brothers
• Center Point Road by Thomas Rhett
• The Big Day by Chance the Rapper
• Zeal by Kings Kaleidescope
• Native Tongue by Switchfoot
• Now, Not Yet by Half.Alive

Podcasts

• What We Said
• True Crime Junkies
• Morning Toast
• The Porch
• That Sounds Fun w/ Annie F Downs
• The Holy Post
• Revisionist History

Books

• Love Letter Life
• Girl Stop Making Excuses
• Born A Crime
• One of Us is Lying
• The Gospel Comes With A House Key
• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
• A Confederacy of Dunces

Movies

• Instant Family
• Frozen 2
• Knives Out

TV Shows

• You
• Ozarks
• Schitt's Creek
• Billy on the Street
• The Crown
• Unbelievable
• Marvelous Miss Maisel
• Catch-22

Songs

• Can't Have You by Shawn Mendes
• Bright by Kehlani
• Aimless Knight by King's Kaleidescope

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Thinking Out Loud is a place to digest audibly the things we tend to think through silently. We'll look at a variety of complex issues from a variety of points of view, not necessarily to get to "right answers" but to build empathy and perspective. 

Jason Soucinek, Executive Director and Founder of Project 619, joins me to discuss our current sexual culture and what God's word has to say about it. Christians are often louder on what they are against than what they are for, but a biblical sexual ethic has a lot of positive things about sex and sexuality. Jason and Project 619 are seeking to lead the conversation with that. Sex, after all, was God's idea. Listen to hear how we can work to change the narrative and lead people to a life or relationship that is ultimately life-giving.

Resources:

• Center for Parent and Youth Understanding
• DriveTime Podcast
• More Than Just the Talk: Becoming Your Kids' Go-To Person About Sex by Jonathan McKee
• Breaking the Marriage Idol: Reconstructing Our Cultural and Spiritual Norms by Kutter Callaway
• One by One: Welcoming the Singles in Your Church by Gina Dalfonzo
• The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender

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