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Thoughts Beyond Thought

Thoughts Beyond Thought

By Thoughts Beyond Thought
Hosted by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle, “Thoughts Beyond Thought” is a collection of unscripted conversations. The friends discuss thoughts on an assortment of topics, often with a theme of spirituality. Travis is a builder and artist, bringing a universalist perspective, while Chris was a pastor and is a writer, offering a biblical, Christian worldview. They don’t have all the answers but invite you on the journey.
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Episode 4 | Unhealthy & Abusive Church Leadership (2 of 2)

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Episode 4 | Unhealthy & Abusive Church Leadership (2 of 2)
“Thoughts Beyond Thought” is an unscripted conversation hosted by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle. This follow-up to Episode 2 ("Sexual Abuse in the Church") discusses enabling factors and character traits for unhealthy and abusive church leaders. The episode covers: -A leader’s “ability” before character formation, our love of celebrity, arrogance, lack of accountability, issues with a visionary on a special mission. unquestioned loyalty, consolidated power, and refusal or excuses for being mentored. -Human nature's propensity to be tempted by power and whether any leaders can be trusted. -Realizing we are partly to blame for empowering, respecting and worshipping these prideful personalities, but we must acknowledge seeing the same problems in the mirror. -Because we are complicit, now that we know what to look for, what can we do? Some suggestions covered are: don’t overgeneralize, don’t implicitly trust but don’t distrust everyone either, see how the leaders lives their life (and if you can’t get close enough to know, follow someone else). -And finally, the “Beyond Books” segment. Link: “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” podcast. “Thoughts Beyond Thoughts” is hosted and produced by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle, edited by Bryce Meredith, artwork by Erin Meredith.
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August 06, 2022
Episode 3 | It's Mental: Judg, Environ, and Funda
“Thoughts Beyond Thought” is an unscripted conversation hosted by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle. Travis shares three separate thoughts from his 600+ notes. This episode covers: -Can God and the Bible evolve? -A brief history of the New Testament -Can life be about convincing ourselves that one thing is true. Or does it distract from living life? -When the Holy Spirit speaks to us today shouldn’t it line up with what He said in the Bible? -Does humanity deserve to be here? Are we harming the earth beyond repair? -Environmentalism -Are people naturally pessimistic? And can looking for the hope and peace of God bring joy? -And finally, the “Beyond Books” segment. “Thoughts Beyond Thoughts” is hosted and produced by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle, edited by Bryce Meredith, artwork by Erin Meredith.
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July 21, 2022
Episode 2 | Sexual Abuse in the Church (1 of 2)
*Please be aware sexual abuse is discussed in this episode which may be a trigger for some listeners.* “Thoughts Beyond Thought” is an unscripted conversation hosted by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle. The most recent church sexual abuse case came out in the news in May 2022 when a report was released by the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Chris was galvanized to discuss the horrific history and trend of sexual abuse within Christian churches. This episode covers:  -A general discussion on how and why the SBC initiated the third-party report.  -The SBC leadership structure, attorneys, and cover up. -Wrestling with how funds could hypothetically be used for different reasons.  -A call to other denominations and independent churches to conduct third-party investigations on themselves and bring findings into the light.  -6 suggestions on how we can help prevent and fight against sexual abuse.  -And finally, the “Beyond Books” segment.  Links:  -Independent Report on SBC Sexual Abuse. -Christianity Today article “Southern Baptists Refused to Act on Abuse, Despite Secret List of Pastors” by Kate Shellnut. -GRACE Organization “Thoughts Beyond Thoughts” is hosted and produced by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle, edited by Bryce Meredith, artwork by Erin Meredith.
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July 06, 2022
First Episode, Second Coming
“Thoughts Beyond Thought” is an unscripted conversation hosted by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle. In this episode they talk about:  Anxiety (as a connection to the show Ted Lasso)  Thoughts and opinions on Jesus' Second Coming  Our culture’s inability to talk about truth, have real conversations (personal and global), and make personal connections.  Excess of distraction, being in the moment, and how to create value for the future.  The ability to have discussions without believing and agreeing with the other person.  And finally, their “Beyond Books” segment.  Chris’ article: “For My Mental Health I Repeatedly Watched One Episode of Ted Lasso”  Travis’ book recommendation: Joe Dispenza’s Becoming Supernatural  “Thoughts Beyond Thoughts” is hosted and produced by Travis Meredith and Chris Fogle, edited by Bryce Meredith, artwork by Erin Meredith.
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June 21, 2022