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Thinking Out Loud

By Nathan Rittenhouse & Cameron McAllister

For those interested in thoughtful cultural analysis without all the apocalyptic forecasts, Thinking Out Loud is a podcast about current events and Christian hope. Hosted by Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister, co-founders of Thinking Out Loud, a ministry that seeks to bridge the gap between discipleship and apologetics, this is a show that seeks to connect the dots on the subject of Christian realism.
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On the Ugliness of Today’s Art

Thinking Out LoudMay 03, 2024

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On the Ugliness of Today’s Art

On the Ugliness of Today’s Art

Not all of today’s art is ugly, of course. But there is a rather pronounced flight from beauty in many contemporary cultural artifacts, from movies and television to novels and poetry. Why this principled interest in ugliness? Join us as we explore what some critics refer to as “the uglification of everything.”


May 03, 202433:52
NPR and the Distrust of Mainstream Media

NPR and the Distrust of Mainstream Media

In a viral article for the The Free Press, former NPR journalist Uri Berliner highlights a number of striking failures at NPR, as well as a broader push from the organization to stop its audience from thinking for themselves. Berliner’s piece is the latest installment in a growing distrust of mainstream media sources. Join us as we explore some of the implications of trying to separate fact from fiction in the world of current events.

Apr 30, 202436:02
Why Do We Distrust Beauty?

Why Do We Distrust Beauty?

Most people recognize that beauty as a broad category certainly isn’t restricted to a museum or an art gallery. However, the fact that lots of today’s artists seem committed to making aggressively ugly art has led to a widespread distrust. In this episode, we press into that distrust and aim to expand the conversation.


Apr 26, 202438:02
Are We Worrying Too Much About Gen Z?

Are We Worrying Too Much About Gen Z?

The baleful tone regarding generation z shows no sign of abating. But are these young people really facing such unprecedented challenges because of social media and smartphones? For that matter, isn’t smartphone addiction something that affects all of us, rather than one age demographic? Join us as we dive in.


Apr 23, 202435:16
Work & AI

Work & AI

One of the many predictions concerning the future impact of AI technologies is that the traditional work week will shrink down to 2-3 days. As Cameron wryly observes, “We’re having a cultural crisis of meaning and now we’re going to take away a good portion of our work. What could possibly go wrong?” In this episode, we explore the value of work and consider its place in human life, as well as its role in our eternal destiny. 


Apr 19, 202432:54
 On “Normophobia” 

On “Normophobia” 

In an incisive essay for First Things, Mary Harrington dubs the principled opposition to all normative standards that have governed western civilization down the ages as “normophobia.” Though perhaps not the subtlests of neologisms, the concept nevertheless captures a very real dynamic in our culture. Join us as we explore normophobia and we encourage you to read Harrington’s essay.

Apr 16, 202442:32
 The Supernatural and Christian Gullibility

The Supernatural and Christian Gullibility

From the divine creation of the world all the way to the resurrection of Christ, Christians are predisposed to believe in extraordinary things. Or at least, this is what the cultural wisdom of the age would have us believe. But are Christians really uniquely gullible because they affirm the existence of the supernatural? Join us as we dive into this listener question.


Apr 12, 202434:16
 Is Richard Dawkins a Christian Now?

Is Richard Dawkins a Christian Now?

In an interview that’s since gone viral, Professor Richard Dawkins, a once-militant atheist, admits to being a “cultural Christian,” effectively breaking the brains of nearly everyone familiar with his work and public persona. While he’s clear that he doesn’t believe in the existence of God, this still represents a stunning reversal. Plenty of Christians are understandably expressing skepticism. Writing in Christianity Today, Russell Moore argues that Dawkins’s stance threatens to undermine Christianity much more effectively than his more aggressive tactics of the past. But is Dawkins’s change of heart really so insidious or so trite? We’re not convinced. Join us as we talk about it. 

Apr 09, 202447:31
Paganism Today

Paganism Today

From tarot cards to healing crystals and astrology apps, why is paganism so popular today? In this episode, we explore its appeal and consider why today’s practices often seem so shallow. 


Apr 05, 202442:15
Why Are Evangelicals Scared of Truth in Fiction?

Why Are Evangelicals Scared of Truth in Fiction?

Yes, it’s a provocative title and question, but evangelicals in particular have a tendency to view fictional truth with suspicion. No doubt, this stems in part from a Puritan heritage that rejected fiction as a lie. In this episode, we press into this strange heritage and consider how stories can tell the truth in vital ways.


Apr 02, 202450:42
Loneliness and Purpose

Loneliness and Purpose

According to the Surgeon General, loneliness is officially at epidemic levels. But why do we continue to treat an inherently spiritual condition as nothing more than a physical problem? And how are loneliness and a deeper sense of purpose connected? Join us as we explore these questions.  


Mar 29, 202436:34
Cultural Apologetics in an Anti-Christian Culture

Cultural Apologetics in an Anti-Christian Culture

American Christians, we’re not in Kansas anymore. The mood has shifted decisively and Christianity is now widely recognized by our most influential cultural voices as harmful for the individual and society. The list of accusations is as long as it is inaccurate: racist, homophobic, xenophobic, sexist, misogynist, fascist, among others. How do we engage a cultural context this hostile? Join us as we dive in on this vexed topic.


Mar 26, 202445:60
The Global Challenge of Islam

The Global Challenge of Islam

One of the fundamental questions facing our world is whether Islam will see reform. There is a key distinction to be made between Islam as a theocratic vision and the many muslims who have peacefully integrated into Western nations. However, it would be naive to overlook the fact that the political aspirations of Islam have made strategic inroads into the West and that this process has been going on for a long time. The ongoing immigration crisis plays a huge role in this challenge. Join us as we consider a Christian response to this challenge.


Mar 22, 202436:43
The Specter of Christian Nationalism, Pt. 2

The Specter of Christian Nationalism, Pt. 2

The term “Christian Nationalism” has been steadily gaining traction as an epithet. On the one hand, critics are concerned about what they believe to be theocratic aspirations in certain fringe groups and movements. On the other hand, a growing number of intellectuals, many of them not Christian, are arguing that Christianity is the wellspring of western civilization as we know it. In this two-part series, we delve into the meaning of the term and its positive and negative outworkings. This episode considers the abuses of Christian Nationalism.


Mar 19, 202443:48
The Specter of Christian Nationalism, Pt. 1

The Specter of Christian Nationalism, Pt. 1

The term “Christian Nationalism” has been steadily gaining traction as an epithet. On the one hand, critics are concerned about what they believe to be theocratic aspirations in certain fringe groups and movements. On the other hand, a growing number of intellectuals, many of them not Christian, are arguing that Christianity is the wellspring of Western Civilization as we know it. In this two-part series, we delve into the meaning of the term and its positive and negative outworkings. This episode considers the positive influence of Christianity on nations.


Mar 15, 202442:27
Fantasy and Christianity

Fantasy and Christianity

Many Christian parents have serious reservations about the fantasy genre, the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings notwithstanding. What are we to make of worlds filled with dark magic and evil sorcerers? In this episode, we delve into these questions and consider a Christian response to the fantasy genre. 


Mar 12, 202442:24
Against Political Despair

Against Political Despair

A recent piece in American Reformer makes the case for a “tragic view” of history, one that necessitates a figure like Donald Trump to counteract the civilizational threats that confront us from time to time. But do Christians really have a tragic view of history? Cameron doesn’t think so and Nathan decided to ask him about it. Join us as we push back against our nation’s mounting political despair.

Mar 08, 202438:57
Inconvenient Truths with Stuart McAllister

Inconvenient Truths with Stuart McAllister

We’ve just launched a free series taught by Stuart McAllister that consists of 7 videos titled, Inconvenient Truths. In this episode, Stuart joins us to discuss the series and offer some insights on how best to use it. There’s only one Al Gore reference.

Mar 05, 202428:17
On Wokeism, Pt. 2
Mar 01, 202448:38
On Wokeism, Pt. 1
Feb 27, 202453:08
The Dangers of Idealism

The Dangers of Idealism

From the ravages taking place in once-great American cities like San Francisco to the farmers challenging the double standards being imposed on them by the European Union, we continue to suffer because of idealists whose policies have little bearing on reality. In this episode, we press into the key differences between destructive idealism and the necessity of having ideals.


Feb 23, 202435:28
Let’s Talk About that “He Gets Us” Ad, Pt. 2

Let’s Talk About that “He Gets Us” Ad, Pt. 2

The latest “He gets us” ad that aired during the Super Bowl has something to offend everyone. Conservatives saw it as a capitulation to the fashionable issues of our day. Progressives saw it as a kind of Trojan Horse to smuggle in repressive values that we ought to discard. Join us as we dive into the conversation.  


Feb 20, 202435:27
Let’s Talk About that “He Gets Us” Ad

Let’s Talk About that “He Gets Us” Ad

The latest “He gets us” ad that aired during the Super Bowl has something to offend everyone. Conservatives saw it as a capitulation to the fashionable issues of our day. Progressives saw it as a kind of Trojan Horse to smuggle in repressive values that we ought to discard. Join us as we dive into the conversation.  


Feb 16, 202435:30
Why Are We So Self-Obsessed?

Why Are We So Self-Obsessed?

A Gen Z influencer has a theory about why people his age look older than their millennial peers. It has to do with cosmetic procedures taking place at a much younger age. The issue certainly isn’t generational, though. These days, most of us are beckoned in a narcissistic direction. In this episode, we chat about the self-obsession that’s driving us all crazy.

Feb 13, 202442:39
Canceling Alistair Begg

Canceling Alistair Begg

The popular conservative pastor, Alistair Begg, recently found himself at the center of controversy when he assured a grandmother that it was okay for her to attend her grandchild’s marriage to a transgender person, provided she was clear on her opposition to the matter. Begg promptly found himself disinvited from a number of conferences. Most seriously, Truth for Life—the program based on his sermons—was dropped by American Family Radio. Given that we just discussed the cancellation of Calvin Robinson from the Mere Anglicanism conference, we thought we’d turn our attention to this latest controversy.    


Feb 09, 202438:31
The Countercultural Security of Christian Identity

The Countercultural Security of Christian Identity

The question, What does it mean to be human? is at the center of our fiercest cultural battles. Within our Christian subcultures, it also underwrites seminars on topics like “Biblical Manhood” and “Biblical Womanhood.” In this episode, we press into the countercultural security represented by the men and women who find their identity in Christ, rather than in themselves.


Feb 06, 202436:38
The New Face of Apologetics

The New Face of Apologetics

Apologetics has been unfashionable among many believing intellectuals for a while. In the shadow of this disapproval, apologetics has also emerged as a full-fledged academic field and as a result, a new generation of apologists are bringing a higher level of rigor and sophistication to the enterprise. But this is often a mixed blessing, leading many to believe that apologetics is only for professionals. In this episode, we push back on this assumption and try to offer a holistic assessment of apologetics.


Feb 02, 202436:44
Canceling Disagreement 

Canceling Disagreement 

Fr. Calvin Robinson recently gave a talk on Critical Theory at the Mere Anglicanism conference in Charleston, South Carolina. When his talk caused offense, he found himself swiftly disinvited from any further engagement at the conference, including participating on a panel discussion. This decision has met with a good deal of backlash, with many arguing that a conference such as this one would have been an ideal venue in which to pursue serious disagreement in a spirit of mutual respect and civility. For reference, Fr. Robinson has addressed the controversy on his Substack and has also included a transcript of his talk. We encourage you to read both. In this episode, we talk about the need for Christians to learn how to disagree with one another before they can reach across cultural dividing lines. 

Jan 30, 202437:46
Thinking With Our Head and Hands

Thinking With Our Head and Hands

In a helpful piece for Front Porch Republic, Doug Stowe makes the case that teaching young kids to work with their hands can help them to discern between fact and fiction in an age of increasing misinformation. The painstaking process of working within the boundaries of the material world makes us less gullible when it comes to deception and far-fetched claims because we’ve made tangible contact with reality. One of us is an example of hands and head knowledge and one of us is more of a symptom of our time. We leave it to you to figure out which is which.

Jan 26, 202441:23
Seekers or Consumers of Spiritual Goods and Services?

Seekers or Consumers of Spiritual Goods and Services?

Sociologists are quick to point out that our culture is awash in pagan spiritual practices. Does this fervent seeking point to a genuine spiritual hunger? Or are we simply incorporating pagan elements into our consumer habits? Join us as we dive into this topic.


Jan 23, 202435:49
On the Epidemic of Loneliness 

On the Epidemic of Loneliness 

It’s no secret that loneliness is a growing problem in our world, but why is this the case? On the face of it, we seem to be more connected than ever. The problem isn’t limited to relational breakdown, either. Even in the midst of relationships, countless people still feel desperately lonely. In this episode, we delve into this sobering topic and consider how the church might begin to address the problem.


Jan 19, 202435:05
On the Habit of Dumbing Down

On the Habit of Dumbing Down

Rebecca Baumgartner recently drew attention to the habit of many authors of popular nonfiction to write for an “audience of imagined idiots.” The folk wisdom these days is that regular folks just don’t like to think and that the only way to get them to do serious intellectual work is to lure them with charming anecdotes and digestible little nuggets. Think TED talks. Is this true? We’re not convinced. Tune in as we talk about the distinction between simplicity and oversimplification. 


Jan 16, 202433:38
What comes after postmodernism?

What comes after postmodernism?

In a superb video essay, Thomas Flight argues that today’s movies feel different because we’re venturing beyond postmodernism into what he terms “metamodernism”—a sensibility that’s every bit as ironic and self-aware as postmodernism, but that nevertheless takes on a more hopeful posture. Is this a profound new movement or breakthrough, or does the emperor have no clothes? Join us for a lively discussion.   

Jan 12, 202440:31
Reflections on the Plane Crash in Japan

Reflections on the Plane Crash in Japan

All 379 passengers aboard a Japan Airlines plane escaped with their lives after a collision with a Coast Guard plane on the runway. Sadly, 5 out of the 6 passengers on the smaller plane perished in the accident. Clearly the result of a serious logistical error, the successful deplaning of the commercial airliner has been singled out for praise. It’s also led people to ask whether something like this could have been pulled off in an American context. Join us as we reflect on this telling question. 


Jan 09, 202435:25
The New Year and the Predicament of Big Goals

The New Year and the Predicament of Big Goals

Ready or not, the new year is upon us. Queue the inevitable lists of resolutions, goals, and dreams. And yet we live in a cultural moment that resolutely refuses to define what makes a good human being. In this atmosphere, how do we honor Christ’s supreme command of loving God and neighbor above all else?


Jan 05, 202433:52
Let’s Talk about the Barbie Movie

Let’s Talk about the Barbie Movie

Cameron watched it. Nathan didn’t. Cameron sort of liked it. Nathan is intrigued. Join us as we close out 2023 by discussing its most popular movie.


Dec 26, 202337:13
Movies vs. Books

Movies vs. Books

With attention spans plummeting, some critics are arguing that watching a movie in one sitting is today’s equivalent of reading a book. Implicit in this argument is the notion that watching movies is inferior to reading books. But is that true? Nathan and Cameron have some differences here, but we’ll let you guess who stands where on the issue. Tune in to hear them hash it out.


Dec 23, 202331:46
On It’s a Wonderful Life

On It’s a Wonderful Life

Indisputably, one of the greatest Christmas films ever made, with a surprising existential gut-punch. In this episode, Nathan grills Cameron about the enduring greatness of Frank Capra’s classic.


Dec 19, 202335:23
Is Free Speech a Biblical Concept?

Is Free Speech a Biblical Concept?

From efforts to classify religious prohibitions as hate speech to pro-Palestine demonstrations on college campuses, the issue of free speech has taken on a new note of urgency in recent years. Add to this the power of the web to amplify these messages. As Christians, how do we conduct ourselves in such times? Join us as we kick the hornet’s nest on a fairly volatile topic. In the end, we hope to bring more light than heat. 


Dec 15, 202338:02
What Hath Chicken to Do With Our Modern Predicament?

What Hath Chicken to Do With Our Modern Predicament?

In a stellar essay for The New Atlantis, Garth Brown trains a critical lens on chicken consumption and explores our habit of prioritizing efficiency over all other considerations. Nathan also makes the bold claim that he knows more about chickens than Cameron knows about horror films. It’s true. Tune in to hear his excellent thoughts. 

Dec 12, 202330:40
Divine Hiddenness 

Divine Hiddenness 

One of the standard objections to Christianity is that God isn’t more obvious. Amazingly, we’ve never talked about it on TOL and we decided to fix that in this episode.


Dec 08, 202332:37
Once More on AI

Once More on AI

A recent article in The New Atlantis proposes a special council for the management of AI technology, rather than mere government regulation. This proposal takes its cues from a similar council that was assembled under the Bush administration to tackle challenges posed by emerging biotechnology. Join us as we consider the vexing topic of AI once again.

Dec 05, 202332:42
Merriam-Webster’s Word of the Year: Authenticity

Merriam-Webster’s Word of the Year: Authenticity

Thought the authenticity craze was all played out? Think again! In the wake of AI, the social media landscape, and widespread institutional distrust, we’re desperate for it. Join us as we explore some of the ironies and possibilities surrounding authenticity.


Dec 01, 202333:34
On Giving

On Giving

It’s Giving Tuesday, so we thought we’d take the opportunity to explore the Christian understanding of generosity. Why do we give and what does it mean to live in the light of the fact that we have nothing that we have not received? Join us as we dive into this important topic.


Nov 28, 202337:06
The Unlikely Conversion of Kat Von D 

The Unlikely Conversion of Kat Von D 

Famed tattoo artist Kat Von D is yet another unlikely recent convert to Christianity. Though portions of her story have been exaggerated by the press, it’s a dramatic story. Join us as we consider this growing trend of high profile figures joining the church.


Nov 24, 202333:19
On Questioning Conversions

On Questioning Conversions

With a number of high profile conversions to Christianity recently, many people continue to challenge the motives involved. In this episode, we press into some of those reservations and try to move in a more hopeful direction. 


Nov 21, 202334:46
The Conversion of Ayaan Hirsi Ali

The Conversion of Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Former atheist Ayaan Hirsi Ali sent shockwaves through the intellectual world when she announced her conversion to Christianity. Nevertheless, some are calling her motives into question, arguing that her embrace of Christianity has more to do with its benefits to western civilization than the veracity of its claims. In this episode, we explore this striking trend of public intellectuals courting the church.

Nov 17, 202334:52
Gen Z and Repairing Our Broken Culture

Gen Z and Repairing Our Broken Culture

A recent essay argues that the primary focus for Christians nowadays ought to be on repairing a broken culture that has “lost its script.” In this episode, we discuss what such an endeavor will involve and why we’re excited, rather than worried, about Gen Z.

Nov 14, 202336:31
On the Mystery of Consciousness

On the Mystery of Consciousness

Philosophy of mind has become a hot topic in recent decades for one major reason: The mystery of consciousness seems to present insuperable challenges to a materialistic conception of reality. In this episode, we delve into this subject and consider its bearing on the question of what it means to be human. 


Nov 10, 202338:55
On Ignoring (Some) News

On Ignoring (Some) News

A steady diet of news often leads to a sense of pessimism and helplessness. Most of what happens around the world is completely outside of our control and reading about current events only amplifies this feeling. Is it okay to ignore some news items? Is it okay to say, “This has no practical relevance for my life”? Join us as we talk about ignoring the news in a culture that fetishizes being informed.


Nov 07, 202331:52