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True Confessions with Lisa & Sarah

True Confessions with Lisa & Sarah

By SLP Toolkit
Being a school based SLP is hard and we have made many mistakes along the way! This podcast is all about what really happens in the speech room as well as adventures in starting our own company!

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And if there was a problem, yo, I'll solve it
Our guest in the confessional is Jesse Kleinman, an SLP in Brooklyn, NY! There is nothing we love more than when someone has a problem and they create a solution! Jesse shares how she handled the transition from in-person SLP to teletherapist and the lessons she has learned along the way!  Resources mentioned in this episode: Jesse's info and social media: website: IG: Teletherapy Support Group is private by invite-only, but if listeners are interested they can sign up here using this link: YouTube Channel: RedBubble Site (Clothing, Stickers, Masks, etc. with Boardmaker Symbols and phrases): Recommended Facebook Groups to follow: Teletherapy Materials for Speech-Language Pathologists: Bitmoji Craze for Educators: Speech Pathologists at Large: Speech and Language Virtual Rooms: AAC for the SLP: Other Resources: - AAC Communication Bill of Rights Poster Free Download from Beautiful Speech Life: - Free Downloads and Resources from The AAC Coach: - Boom Learning: - Epic: - Vooks: - Tarheel Reader: YouTube Channels for AAC Resources: - Swingset Mamas: - Mister Clay: - Special Education with Pat: - Purposeful Parker:  - Saltillo:  - Rachel Madel SLP on Instagram: - All About Communication on Instagram:
October 29, 2020
BONUS: How the Heck Do I Do a Virtual Oral Mech Exam?
This episode is available for ASHA CEUs and part of the 2020 SLP Connect Podconference until October 7, 2020. If you want to earn ASHA CEUs, then stay on until the very end, because that is where I provide information on how to register for ASHA CEUs and other details like how to win awesome giveaway prizes! You can also read about the details here.  If you are listening after SLP Connect, then enjoy this awesome episode with our special guest, Amy Graham! We are doing a deep dive into oral mech exams - what needs to be included, when should we do it, how to do it over a computer screen, and what we do with the information we gather! True to the theme of our podcast there are a lot of confessions in this episode and Amy answers a ton of questions! This is a must-listen for all pediatric SLPs! Resources mentioned in this episode:  Amy's website: Graham Speech Therapy Amy's social media: Instagram account   |   Facebook Page  Oral-Facial Exam Free assessment checklist Case History form specific to SSD SLP Bundle on Throat Scope (includes Amy Graham's OFE, promo code AMY10 for 10% off): SLP Toolkit 6 Steps to Assessing Childhood Apraxia of Speech' worksheet
September 23, 2020
E31: I knew nothing about complex communication needs and AAC before I started working in that setting.
It's our first episode of season 3 and it's a great one!!! We are thrilled to have Emily Diaz in the confessional chatting with us about everything from working with secondary students with complex communication needs to teletherapy and everything in between! This episode has something for everyone and is timely for our current situation!  Resources from this episode:  Emily’s website: Social media handles: @emilydiazslp Virtual AAC Training: Teletherapy & Distance Learning Edition: How We Do It: S’MORRES and Partner Augmented Input with Dr. Jill Senner & Matthew Baud: How We Do It: Coaching AAC Use in the Natural Environment:
September 1, 2020
E30: It's not a people problem it's a process problem.
Phuong Palafox, author of The Heartbeat of Speech-Language Pathology, and SLP at Bilinguistics in Austin, TX, joins us in the confessional for a discussion about what school-based SLPs can do to be successful in a system designed to make them unsuccessful. Phuong is not only a brilliant SLP but a beautiful person who has made it her mission to help SLPs know their worth and advocate for themselves. This episode is loaded with inspiration, truth bombs, and solutions! It's a must listen for all school-based SLPs! Resources mentioned in this episode:  The Heartbeat of Speech-Language Pathology Bilinguistics The Speech Therapy Blog Join the movement Intention bracelet SLP Toolkit
June 7, 2020
E29: I was not financially prepared for a pandemic.
In this timely episode, we chat with Craig Goldslager, a financial planner who is also married to an SLP. We talk about everything from the CARES Act to the stock market and everything we need to consider to financially survive COVID-19. He highlights ways to access cash now if we need it and discusses things to consider moving forward should something like this happen again in the future. RESOURCES: Craig Goldslager, Utterly Financial - Helping SLPs plan for retirement. SLP Money Episode 5: The CARES Act & Common Investor Mistakes to Avoid Estimate the size of your stimulus check Apply for unemployment Federal student loans suspended through 9/30/2020.  If you have private lenders, talk to them about forbearance or deferral strategies (for every type of payments: mortgage, auto insurance, homeowner’s insurance, credit cards, car payments, etc…) Payroll Protection Program:  This is through your bank Overview Sample Application Economic Disaster Loan:  This is through Online Application More Information about Disaster Loans (including the forgiven $10,000 advance if approved for the loan)
April 11, 2020
E28: I call in sick because I just need a day off.
We are thrilled to have guest Jessi Andricks, Stress Management Coach for SLPs, in the confessional to chat with us about burn out and managing stress - and no we do no suggest crying in your car! This is a critically important conversation as we have all felt burnout from this job and we hope you will find the solutions given in this episode help you to find joy in the job!  Jessi is a wealth of knowledge and has a unique background that is perfect for this conversation!  Resources mentioned:  Stress Management Podcast Stress Management Professional Development Courses Jessi Andricks IG
February 25, 2020
E27: Having an attorney in a meeting is scary.
No one wants to hear that an attorney is going to be in attendance at a meeting. But they are there for a reason, and in this episode we chat about what that reason is. We also discuss ways teams can be proactive to avoid getting to the point of having an attorney present in the first place. We are thrilled to have Lloyd Donders, Esq., a special education attorney, in the confessional for this very important conversation! You won't want to miss this episode! Resource(s) referenced: Writing Meaningful IEPs
February 7, 2020
E26: A positive mindset and a smile can get you what you want.
In this episode we have our bestie Chris Wenger aka @speechdude aka 'The Wang' chatting with us about everything from what went down at ASHA, to what it's really like working in a high school, and how to advocate for yourself! We just love this guy and we know you will too! 
December 10, 2019
BONUS: Best Practices in Data Collection
We are thrilled to participate in the first-ever SLP Live Podcon! By listening to this episode you have the opportunity to earn CEs through Nov. 9th! For more information check out:
October 30, 2019
E25: Putting yourself out there is hard.
For those of you who have listened before or follow us on social media, you may find this hard to believe but we do really care what people think of 😂 I say that because we post and say some ridiculous things but it is scary! There are plenty of times when we question ourselves! In this episode, we are chatting about what we have learned and what we hope for you!  Mentions:  SLP-Live podcon Smiles for Speech Speechy Musings Amy Porterfield Jasmine Star Rachel Hollis
October 28, 2019
E24: This will be the best school year yet...and other lies I tell myself
We're baaaaaaaaack!!!!!! We took a quick break but we are back for an all new season of confessions 🎉 We are kicking off season 2 chatting all about starting a new school year and what we hope for yours! 
September 5, 2019
E23: I wasn't trained to train an SLP-A.
It's our final episode of the season 🎉 Thank you for coming along on this journey with us! We have loved every single minute of this and can't wait to come back and start a new season in a couple months! We are thrilled to have our friend, Amy Hill, in the confessional to chat about everything SLP-A related! Amy is the perfect guest to have on to talk about this subject as she is the program director for the SLP-A program at Estrella Mountain Community College and AZ Executive Director of Clinical Support for Light Street Special Education Solutions - where she oversees SLPs and SLP-A's. With the new SLP-A ASHA certification coming soon, this is a great listen for any SLP-A or SLP supervisor! Navigating this working relationship can be tricky! Hopefully this will help :)
June 24, 2019
E22: I "may have" made up data for progress reports.
In our latest episode we are getting real about writing progress reports. We have done some things we are not proud of but the reality is that this part of our job is tough! We share the mistakes we made as well as solutions right in time for you to start writing your end of year progress reports!
May 15, 2019
E21: I was worried RTI would add to my workload.
In our previous episode about interpreting articulation norms we mentioned the use of RTI as a possible solution to providing earlier intervention. In this episode we are going to go in deeper on what that can look like and discuss if it's worthwhile! We are thrilled to have our friend, Laurel Bruce, an SLP and PhD student, in the confessional to share her experience and research!  Resources: Laurel Bruce Instagram: RTI Resources from Jennifer Taps Richard:  Link to free Articulation Therapy Flowchart:  Link to free articulation screener:  Information about Speech Therapist’s App for /r/ Treatment (staRt) app:
April 22, 2019
E20: I used to pull IEP present levels out of my $@&!
Have you ever found yourself writing an IEP and filling out the present levels with something like "Johnny is a sweet boy with a nice smile who has lots of friends" and then nothing else? Yeah, us too! We are chatting about all of the frustration of current processes for gathering data at annual reviews as well as our big Aha! that led us to creating Present Level Assessments inside of SLP Toolkit.  Resources mentioned in this episode: How is "appropriate progress" defined by the U.S. Supreme Court? Special discount to SLP Toolkit for our podcast listeners - To receive 50% off 2 months for a new subscription use the coupon code: podcasthalfoff
March 19, 2019
E19: We have been interpreting the articulation norms all wrong.
Many of us have seen the new speech sound norms infographic published by McLeod and Crowe circulating on the internet and there are a lot of feelings about what this means for school based SLPs. We are thrilled to have Kelly Farquharson, Associate Professor at FSU and speech sound expert, in the confessional to chat all about it! This episode was eye opening for us as we discovered that these norms aren't "new" and we have been interpreting the standard circulated norms (i.e. Iowa-Nebraska) all wrong. This is an important discussion and one that made us a bit nervous as sometimes researchers and practicing clinicians view the therapy world through a different lens. Tune in to find out how this conversation went down. Resources referenced in this episode:  The Informed SLP: That one time a journal article on speech sounds broke the SLP internet.  It Might Not Be "Just Artic": The Case for the Single Sound Error Quality of language intervention provided to primary-grade students with language impairment Variability in Interpreting “Educational Performance” for Children With Speech Sound Disorders Using Response to Intervention for Speech Sound Disorders: Exploring Practice Characteristics and Geographical Differences
February 27, 2019
E18: I used to avoid writing social goals because I didn't know how to measure them.
We were thrilled to have Ryan Hendrix with Social Thinking as a guest on this episode. We loved chatting about how best to support students with social learning differences. Lisa & I confess how we struggled with how best to assess, write objective goals and measure progress on pragmatic language skills. Ryan shares her discovery on how complex treatment is and everything she has learned in her role as a social cognitive therapist. We are obsessed with all things Social Thinking so we may have geeked out a little bit :) Resources mentioned in this episode: Social Thinking Dynamic Assessment More on Dynamic Assessment Social Competency Model Research Supporting Social Thinking Clinical Training Program
February 13, 2019
E17: We had no idea how big SLP Summit would get.
In our first episode for 2019 we are chatting about goals/resolutions for the new year, all things SLP Summit and we even spill the beans on an exciting new project!
January 17, 2019
E16: Running my business is harder than being an SLP.
In our latest episode, Jenna Rayburn from Speech Room News is doing the confessing! She shares how she got started, what it takes to be successful and why she does it. Jenna's website: Instagram handle: @speechroomnews
December 12, 2018
E15: What really went down at ASHA 2018!
In this episode, we spill the tea on what went down at the ASHA convention! Listen to find out what we really think about the convention, what we learned from talking to so many awesome SLPs and what it was like to have the best exhibit hall neighbors ever! And stick around until the end when we answer some of your questions!
November 21, 2018
E14: I get paid to play for a living.
If you are interested in early intervention but haven't tried it yet this is the episode for you! Our guest, Emily Cohen, speech-language pathologist, and author chats with us about using a play based approach in therapy and the benefits of including the family. Resources mentioned in this episode: Playing with Purpose Book The discount code if people are interested in purchasing the book is: slptoolkit Blog Downloadable Milestone Checklist Hanen Centre: Contact:
November 6, 2018
E13: I used to only take data because someone said I had to.
In this episode, we are talking about everyone's favorite topic - data! Please still click play :) We share how we really feel about data collection, why it's so challenging and solutions to make it easier and more effective.
October 24, 2018
E12: Sometimes my pride gets in the way.
We convinced our friend Doug Cutler, M.A. CCC-SLP, to jump into the confessional and we are thrilled that he did! In this episode, Sarah confesses that she never wanted to reach out to Doug, who is the AAC specialist in the district because she was embarrassed with how little she knew about AAC. Doug confesses that he would have a hard time going back to being a school-based SLP. And Lisa finally gets to use a new term she coined 😂. This episode is packed full of real stories and tips/strategies for how to get started with AAC, the importance of cueing/promoting, using the curriculum - plus so much more! Doug's Guest Blog post: "How Do I Write AAC Goals" SETT Framework Prentke Romich Coughdrop Caroline Musselwhite
October 9, 2018
E11: We have been treating apraxia all wrong.
We are thrilled to have apraxia specialist, Jennie Bjorem, in the confessional for this episode! We chat about treating childhood apraxia of speech, confess we had no idea what we were doing and discuss how we have all had imposter syndrome at one time or another! This episode will not only give you practical treatment ideas but will also discuss how we are all doing the best we can with what we have. Bjorem Speech on YouTube: Jennie's Instagram: Edith Strand's DTTC:
September 18, 2018
E10: We are the last people that should be talking about balance.
In this episode, we talk about our attempts (and failure) at balancing work, motherhood, love and health. We also confess if we really get along as much as it looks like we do!
August 28, 2018
E9: Feeling uncomfortable is a good thing.
We are so excited to have Maria Dixon in the confessional! Maria is not only our friend but is also a professor at Arizona State University and has all the goods about what it takes to successfully survive grad school! We chat about everything from what it takes to be an SLP, to being teacher's pet and tips for supervising grad students. Warning this episode is very funny! Here is a link to a blog post Maria wrote about the NAGPOT strategy mentioned in our podcast: Maria's guest blog post: Recipe for Success
August 15, 2018
E8: I don't sit around reading research all day.
We are super excited to have Dr. Meredith Harold in the confessional (virtually) where she confesses that, "As a PhD, I thought SLPs should just know the research, and if they didn't, they weren't trying hard enough." We love her openness and perspective as she realized that this couldn't be further from the truth and shares the struggles of bridging practice and research! The Informed SLP: Meredith's IG handle: @theinformedslp Speech Bite: ASHA Evidence Maps:
July 30, 2018
E7: I have fear of using AAC.
We are super excited to have our friend Anne Page in the confessional for this episode! Anne shares her confession: "I had a student show up with a device and I had no idea how to use it." If you struggle with helping students with AAC or meeting the needs of students with complex communication needs this episode is for you! Anne's website: Anne's IG: Other resources: Email us at for feedback and ideas for future episodes!
July 19, 2018
E6: There is no shame in our game!
In this episode, we talk about SLP shaming and why it needs to stop!
July 5, 2018
E5: We are not business majors
In this episode, Lisa and Sarah confess that they had no idea what they were doing when they started SLP Toolkit. They share how the idea came to them, how they got it off the ground and what they have learned along the way.
June 19, 2018
E4: I don't care if you call me speech teacher!
In this episode Lisa and Sarah discuss a somewhat polarizing topic - being called a "speech teacher". Big surprise - they have an opinion :)
June 5, 2018
E3: We gained 90 lbs in a year!
In our latest episode, we are talking about our struggles with weight gain and what if anything we are doing about it. Email us at with comments or questions about this episode!
May 21, 2018
E2: I want to quit my job!
Welcome back :) In this episode, Lisa & Sarah talk about times when they wanted to throw in the towel and how to survive burnout! Email us at with comments or questions about this episode!
April 23, 2018
E1: Who do we think we are?
Welcome to the very first episode of True Confessions! In this episode we share a little bit about ourselves and what we hope to accomplish in this brief tell all podcast! Thanks for listening :) Email us at with comments or questions about this episode!
April 20, 2018