Never Mind The Bar Charts

Why did Jo Swinson win and what happens now?

An episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts

By Mark Pack
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack talk about the Liberal Democrats, British politics and a few stray digressions. Occasionally features Brexit.
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And then there were two... (more MPs on the Lib Dem Parliamentary benches)
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack discuss the victory of Jane Dodds and the switch of Sarah Wollaston.
36:04
August 15, 2019
Why did Jo Swinson win and what happens now?
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack discuss the outcome of the Lib Dem leadership race and how optimistic Lib Dems should now be.
40:35
July 30, 2019
What have we learnt so far about Jo Swinson and Ed Davey?
Mark and Stephen share their frustrations, insights and praise for the Lib Dem leadership contest in this special double-length episode.
55:54
July 3, 2019
Exclusive: Edward Davey interview
Mark Pack interviews would-be Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey about why he's decided now is the time to run for leader. They also discuss the Coalition Government, environmental policy and how to defeat Boris Johnson.
39:38
June 27, 2019
Exclusive: Jo Swinson interview
Mark Pack interviews would-be Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson about why she wants the job. The topics they discuss include what she thinks of the SNP, what she'd do in a hung Parliament and how the party can be more successful.
37:54
June 25, 2019
Announcement: three special episodes coming up
Exclusive interviews with Edward Davey and Jo Swinson coming up. Subscribe the podcast to make sure you don't miss them.
02:19
June 21, 2019
"Total Marmite": Tim Farron's advice to the next Lib Dem leader
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack interview Tim Farron about political party leadership and what members should ask at hustings meetings.
46:07
June 6, 2019
Will the Liberal Democrat boom go bust?
In episode #9, Stephen Tall and Mark Pick pick over the European election results and what comes next for the Lib Dems. Can the party sustain its May run of successes?
29:24
May 28, 2019
Just how happy should the Lib Dems be?
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack discuss the local elections, the Euros and the pace of Liberal Democrat recovery.
36:55
May 14, 2019
Friend or foe? Change UK and the Lib Dems
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack discuss the leaked Change UK memo about the Lib Dems, where Change UK is headed, a bold claim about Tony Blair from Stephen and how the local elections may change the political trajectory of the Remain parties.
15:07
April 29, 2019
Are the Lib Dems about to lose an MP?
Stephen finally gets Mark to talk about Brexit. But only after discussing the Newport West by-election. They also discuss whether the Lib Dems are about to lose another MP over Brexit.
29:24
April 5, 2019
Vince Cable: how did he do and who will succeed him?
Mark Pack and Stephen Tall discuss Vince Cable's record as leader, what happened at conference and why Stephen pays money to the New Statesman. Plus - who will be the next Lib Dem leader?
30:46
March 19, 2019
The Independent Group: earthshattering or earthbound?
Mark Pack and Stephen Tall discuss The Independent Group, the future of the Lib Dems and Brexit. With shout outs for The Times Red Box podcast and the Polling Matters podcast.
29:38
March 4, 2019
Pilot episode #3: universal basic income, radicalism and new parties
Stephen and Mark discuss three things they don't like.
32:00
February 13, 2019
Pilot episode #2: Paddy, coalition and little Englanders
Mark Pack and Stephen Tall discuss Paddy Ashdown, Lib Dem strategy and our obsession with US politics. Brexit nearly doesn't get mentioned.
38:16
January 18, 2019
Pilot episode #1: the best political commentators, the Lib Dems and what if Brexit wasn't happening?
Stephen Tall and Mark Pack talk about their favourite political podcasts and commentators, what the government should be doing if it wasn't consumed by Brexit and the Liberal Democrats.
37:58
December 23, 2018
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