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Uncivilized Territories

Uncivilized Territories

By Tom Kaczynski & Gabrielle Bell
Cartoonists Tom Kaczynski and Gabrielle Bell discuss comics, philosophy, literature, esoterica, and Gabrielle's personal life.
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Olivier Schrauwen's Physiognomy

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Magical Devices
Gabrielle and Tom K are enchanted by magic. The discussion begins with a reading of  S.S.O.T.B.M.E. by Ramsey Dukes. Through the alchemical power of conversation, the topic spawns a multifaceted hydra of detours and blind alleys. The theory of star seeds, magic vs. science vs. art, the internet police state, the magic of NFTs and Bitcoin. Comics are in there too… and so much more! Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books | Beta Testing the Ongoing Apocalypse Uncivilized Books.
55:12
June 3, 2021
Olivier Schrauwen's Physiognomy
Gabrielle & Tom K read the work of Olivier Schrauwen. We admire how Schrauwen's playful deadpan optimism underpins much darker themes and stories. The wide-ranging discussion touches on Rodolphe Töpfer, Physiognomy, Michel Houellebecq, mental trolling, music in comics, Yuichi Yokoyama, and the colonial history of Belgium. Join us to hear how Schauwen's work restored our faith in comics! Works read: MOME 12, Parallel Lives, Arsene Schrauwen (all available from Fantagraphics). Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books | Beta Testing the Ongoing Apocalypse Uncivilized Books.
40:55
May 19, 2021
The Abject Glamour of Comics
We begin by traveling on a virtual international comics festival tour from Bilbao to Algiers. Then we push into our memories and recollect our first conventions. As soon as we begin discussing San Diego ComiCon, we fall into a nerdy trap discussing MCU, the new mainstream, superhero metaphysics, cosmic capes, and how to draw Batman as an indie cartoonist. With cartoon travel agents: Gabrielle Bell and Tom Kaczynski. Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books Uncivilized Books.
42:15
May 5, 2021
Pet Theories
This the all-pet-themed episode you've been waiting for. A discussion of Gabrielle Bell's new comic book My Dog Jojo (available now!) yields a rich vein of topics. The hosts answer these questions: Do pets have Stockholm syndrome? Who domesticated whom? Did humans domesticate dogs or vice versa? Are we living in captivity? Who was Diogenes the Cynic (AKA the dog philosopher)? Another mind-expanding conversation from Gabrielle Bell and Tom Kaczynski. Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books Uncivilized Books.
50:22
April 22, 2021
The Psychogeography of Gabrielle Bell
Tom Kaczynski talks to Gabrielle Bell about her recent Patreon comics. The conversation takes a life of its own and takes many strange turns and sidetracks... and quickly détourns into odd crossroads where Dorian Gray meets Nietzsche, comics are a performance, opera trumps comics, scapegoats are formed mimetically, walking and thinking go hand-in-hand, and psychogeography rules. There's more too!  Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books Uncivilized Books.
36:10
April 7, 2021
Cartoon Dialectics and The Dangers of Nostalgia
Welcome to the first episode of Uncivilized Territories. Your hosts, Tom Kaczynski and Gabrielle Bell, discuss Cartoon Dialectics #2, the power of comics, what philosophy can learn from comics and the dangers of nostalgia. Gabrielle Bell's Patreon | Gabrielle's Books Tom's blog TransAtlantis I Tom's Books Uncivilized Books.
52:00
March 21, 2021