Undetermined: The Podcast

Undetermined: The Podcast

By Jon and Matt
An irreverent blend of humor, politics, philosophies, music, life, and conversation from a couple of Gen X'ers who are always seeking out interesting discussions.
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Special Guest: Jem of Australia's DEAD
Such a thrill to make a new connection Down Under! It was great to get to know Jem and learn about his fascinating musical journey.  He's a really great guy and a phenomenal drummer in a band that defies proper description. (You'll just have to give them a listen! Check out their new release on Bandcamp!)
1:30:47
May 28, 2020
Special Guest: Dick Valentine of Electric Six
Fish delivery dreams. Classic marriage proposals. Writing pornographic literature... One never knows where they might go with someone as interesting as Dick Valentine (Tyler Spencer) of Electric Six.  However, one can trust that it will be interesting and entertaining. Check it out!
38:13
May 22, 2020
Dick F'ing Valentine
Electric F'ing Six
00:09
May 22, 2020
Special Guest: Josh Newton of Shiner
Love Shiner? (We do too!) So thrilled to get Josh on the podcast to talk about Shiner, their new album, life as a big tour guitar tech...and more.  Josh is too modest to tell you what a bad ass he is. (But we'll do it!)  Dude's got stories and we were lucky enough to get a few out of him.  Thanks to Josh for sharing!
55:09
May 18, 2020
Special Guest: Jesse Hunt of Cyanotic
What's he gonna do with all those t-shirts? Jon and Matt get to know bad ass drummer (and good ass guy) Jesse Hunt.  Get some history...find out how he is  spending his apocalypse...and more! (There might even be a special appearance to catch.)
57:00
May 14, 2020
Special Guest: Charles Mooney III
Former Toadies guitarist and current SOLSHIFTER king of feedback, Charles Mooney III joins Matt and Jon to discuss his career and how we are all waiting with baited breath to get back to some live Rock and Roll, when it's safe. A special birthday episode for Charles, as well. Enjoy. We certainly did and had a great night!
52:32
May 7, 2020
Special Guest: Conan Neutron
This guy rocks! (Both literally and figuratively.)  A super talented singer/songwriter/guitarist, Conan Neutron seems like he can do it all! He even has a competing podcast!! (Unfortunately for us, his list of gifts also includes "warm", "open" and "funny!") Join us as we talk about music, podcasting, mental health, and more!
1:12:26
May 2, 2020
Special Guests: Ultimate Fakebook
Catch up with Bill McShane and "Mean" Eric Melin of Ultimate Facebook as they discuss life, the music industry, and stuff with Jon and Matt. (Really great guys!)
1:10:42
April 26, 2020
Special Guest: Mark Hennessy of Godzillionaire/Primitive Race
What do you talk about when you've got an amazing new album with one group and just agreed to replace a legendary front-man in another? The state of education and philosophy, of course. (It's called Undetermined for a reason!) There's much more to Mark than growls and screams.  Always an interesting and entertaining conversation! 
1:03:15
April 22, 2020
Special Guest: Chris Kinsley of Arson Class
Get the low down on Kansas City's own Arson Class from front man Chris Kinsley.  If you haven't heard of them, this is your chance to fix that.  Really great stuff! Really fun guy! Also: Stay tuned for the special bonus episode with the full band (sort of) to drop soon!
41:21
April 15, 2020
Special Guest: Comedian Andy Hartley
Funny guy and Betty White boy toy Andy Hartley joins Jon and Matt for an evening of laughs.  (How will you celebrate the end of the apocalypse?) P.S. - The audio is a bit wonky, but the laughs are there!
28:31
April 12, 2020
Special Guest: Adam Casto of Nerd Table
Adam rejoins the podcast to talk about what has been happening with him. (Turns out to be some pretty amazing stuff!!) Get the scoop on the new Nerd Table vs. Galactic Turkey record (SO GOOD!!) and more in the works! Thrilled and honored to have him back on.
48:21
April 8, 2020
Special Guest: Chris McGrew (Part 2)
Did we mention Chris also helps run a legendary studio? (Hyde Street Studios in San Francisco) Love this cat!!
40:41
April 1, 2020
Special Guest: Chris McGrew of Griddle
How the hell does one define Griddle? One doesn't. (That's what's so effing cool about them!) Had a great time getting to pick the brain of one cool and immensely talented dude in drummer and studio bad ass Chris McGrew. So good it's in two parts!
50:35
March 29, 2020
Special Guests: Don't Mind Dying
So good the local brewery named a beer after them!! (It's possible that one or two might have been consumed for this episode!) Jon and Matt had a fun and memorable evening getting to know Brian Craig and Jason Caton of Columbia, MO's Don't Mind Dying.  As funny as they are talented. If you haven't checked them out...you should!
48:16
March 12, 2020
Special Guest: Billy Smith
Jon and Matt relive their glory days with Springfield/Kansas City icon Billy Smith. (Slugworth; Dirtnap; Season To Risk; Roman Numerals; CONOCO...) The guy is prolific....and a lot of fun! So glad for the chance to catch up!
58:09
March 7, 2020
Special Guest: Adam Mason
Jon and Matt get to know horror writer/film/video director Adam Mason. (Junkie; Pig; They Come Knocking; I’m Just F*ing With You; Alice In Chains; Korn...and more!)
57:27
February 27, 2020
Special Guest: Cody Powell of Counter Balance Magazine
Photographer...editor...publisher...pure Texan.  Cody Powell of Counter Balance Magazine is a man of many talents and many stories. We are so glad he was gracious enough to share a few with us! 
55:34
February 22, 2020
Special Guest: Seven Arizona Black of Headlight Rivals (Part 2)
Back for more with one of our faves! Enjoy!
35:50
February 17, 2020
Special Guest: Seven Arizona Black of Headlight Rivals
Seven is our kinda guy! Super friendly, super funny, and super talented! From Truck Stop Love to his current band Headlight Rivals (and all the stops in between) he's lived a fascinating life. We loved getting to know him and think you will too.
36:36
February 8, 2020
Special Guest: Freddy Herrera of Everclear and The Exies
They don't get much more down to Earth than Freddy Herrera. Super talented, super funny, and super nice. So glad we had a chance to get to know him! (Bonus: Due to a glitch, Jon is now exploring a career doing disclaimer voice-overs!)
54:18
February 3, 2020
Special Guests: The Many Colored Death
We had a great time with Columbia MO's Many Colored Death! (A really great up and coming band from Columbia, MO!) Funny, talented, and down to Earth...Brent, Preston, and Shea are worth getting to know. Check 'em out!
1:00:16
January 21, 2020
Special Guest: Lesley Rankine
Jon and Matt get international with proud Scot Lesley Rankine of Ruby, Silverfish, and Pigface. (Warning: It might get a bit political.) She's an amazing artist and a great guest! 
55:15
January 19, 2020
Special Guest: Phil "Phildo" Owen
Industrial music icon (RevCo, Skatenigs, and more!) Phil Owen joins Jon and Matt for a fascinating conversation about his experiences, what he's doing now, and views of the world/life.  A great listen!!
1:03:12
January 9, 2020
Orville Kline of Porn and Chicken
What happens when Jon and Matt meet an international club/party icon? (We find out he's a really cool guy!) You should get to know him too!
1:01:24
January 6, 2020
Special Guest: Godzillionaire
Ben White, Cody Romaine,  Mark Hennessy (formerly of Paw), and Mike D make up one of the Midwest's best kept secrets with their band Godzillionaire! Get "Kansas As F*ck" with the guys and find out about their soon to be released album. (It's sooooo good!) Expect to hear more about these guys!
57:22
December 17, 2019
Toxic Twins?
What happens when Jon and Matt go without a guest for the night and have no established talking points? Toxic catastrophes....enjoy! 
27:33
December 13, 2019
Special Guest: Chris Connelly
Ministry...RevCo...Pigface...Killing Joke....even a Bowie cover band! Chris Connelly is an incredible front man who has lived an amazing life. (Turns out he's also pretty damn nice and a great story teller!) So thrilled to bring this one to you!! Enjoy!!
56:44
December 4, 2019
Special Guests: Andrew and Shawn from Red Kate and Black-Site Records
Talented musicians and record "executives". Get to know a couple of class acts in Andrew and Shawn from Black-Site records and the incredible band Red Kate. These guys are an inspiration. Give 'em a listen and you'll quickly see why. So glad to have them join us!
59:20
November 27, 2019
Barker Gee Memorial Scholarship
What a great idea!! This is love of art. (And we love it.!) Please check out our brothers (and sisters) at www.black-site.org for more info and some amazing artists!! Thanks Andrew and Shaun for giving back in such an amazing way!
04:05
November 26, 2019
Gary Lee Conner of Screaming Trees (Episode 2)
We hung around for more. (Because Gary Lee is awesome and first hand "grunge" history lessons rock!)
1:13:06
November 24, 2019
Special Guest: Gary Lee Conner of The Screaming Trees
So this happened.... Get a history lesson on the "Grunge" scene from a true icon of the genre.  As guitarist and songwriter for the Screaming Trees, Gary Lee Conner was there for it all and was gracious enough to share his stories with the guys. Truly a fascinating conversation with a talented and endearing spirit . This one is special folks...
1:06:06
November 19, 2019
Special Guest: Jason Cropper (Part 2)
Because the first part was so much fun!
42:27
November 14, 2019
Special Guest: Jason Cropper
Weezer, Chopper One, 22 Jacks, Fliptop...this guy doesn't even realize what a legend he's got in him. (And we love him all the more for that.) Join us for a heartfelt and down to Earth chat with this warm, intelligent, and truly talented guy. So lucky to have him!
1:09:01
November 12, 2019
Special Guest: Tony Willis of Forbidden Place Records
What a cool dude! Hang with Jon and Matt as they get the convo on with Tony Willis of Forbidden Place Records. Find out what it takes to run a label with a gazillion underground artists. (So many to check out!!) Hear creepy stories from our youth. Get the scoop on what's happening in Tony's world...and stay posted for giveaways! (The audio gets a little choppy due to storms in Denver...but the content is there!) We loved getting to know Tony and think you will too!
54:33
November 5, 2019
Special Guest: Hamish Cowan of Cordrazine
Austrailia's own Hamish Cowan joins Matt and Jon for a fascinating conversation about the travails of sudden fame and a journey of finding personal balance. As incredible as he is as an artist, he's an even better person. You don't want to miss this one!
50:56
October 24, 2019
Special Guests: Truck Stop Love
Rich and Eric from Manhattan KS legends Truck Stop Love share some great road stories, tell us about their experiences in the music industry, fill us in on what's up with them lately. (A MUST for air guitar slingers everywhere!)
1:06:26
October 19, 2019
Special Guest: William Elliott Whitmore
We loved getting to know this guy and you will too! Learn about: being country/punk; legends of one armed men; and coming of age in the 80s and 90s!
55:41
October 11, 2019
Special Guest: Jonnie Axtell of Psychefunkapus
For Matt and Jon, The Bay Area was a magical place for music in the 1990's. Jonnie Axtell, guitarist for Psychefunkapus, was a magician, pulling proverbial rabbits out of hats that blew our minds and made us realize that there was something more out there than typical, rock radio garbage. From their first formal gig opening for Primus, to rocketing up through the scene as funk/thrash MTV staples, Psychefunkapus set a standard that made us seek out everything different, as long as it was made with heart. Jonnie has heart... in spades, as well as a ton of great stories to tell. He is a musician's musician, a talented cat, and made a great guest. Enjoy Dandies!
52:33
October 3, 2019
Special Guest: Sharp Star (Ethan O'Daniel and Logan Hill)
While the members of the band Sharp Star hail from Paducah, Kentucky, they were never part of a "scene."  Two self-described "aliens," Ethan o'Daniel and Logan Hill birthed their project through a fascinating DIY online presence, as part of a burgeoning revolution in the music industry to go instantly global. Not only has the approach been interesting to say the least, but the music is pretty great, as well!
49:37
October 3, 2019
Sittin' at the Nerd Table!
Adam Casto is a rock god! (The world just doesn't know it yet.) Spend some time with Jon and Matt as they get to know the talented and criminally under-recognized lead singer/founding member of Columbus, Ohio's Nerd Table.  
46:48
September 24, 2019
Special Guest: Tom Urquhart of Henry the Archer
Jon and Matt get down to "brass" tacks with horn guy (and all around cool dude) Tom Urquhart of Henry the Archer.
1:05:39
September 17, 2019
WTF???
Jon and Matt rant about the state of society and attempt to pry some level of understanding out of it. (P.S. They might even defend some conservative perspectives.)
1:03:12
August 21, 2019
Shell Shock
Fan favorite Eric Brown returns to share stories with Jon and Matt, Find out about the dangers of seatbelts, how to balance eggs...and more!
1:03:19
August 10, 2019
Rocky Relationship
The guys get back to basics and discuss everything from road trips to beat-boxing.
54:42
August 8, 2019
Special Guest: The Amazing Mr. Lifto
Jon and Matt had a chance to talk to an incredible performance artist.       Joe Hermann (AKA The Amazing Mr. Lifto) has been a touring artist with the Jim Rose Circus. Get ready to clutch your junk in empathetic pain and wonder as Joe tells us some incredible stories about lifting things with his penis; however, he's also an incredibly nice and very real guy and was willing to let us into the extreme world of body modification and how he navigates a world of pleasure and pain. We also got a chance to share some funny stories, conspiracy theories, and can't wait to talk to Joe again, in a strictly "bullshitting," sense, as he is our kind of nerd. Enjoy, Dandies! We certainly did!
37:09
July 29, 2019
Special Guest: Luke Long of Ha Ha Tonka
Jon and Matt go "home" and meet up with bassist (and aspiring maker of spirits) Luke Long of Ha Ha Tonka.  Learn about growing up in the same small town, the power of the "Disappointed Stare" as delivered by Matt's mom, and the evolution of Ha Ha Tonka.  (The audio quality is a bit rough on this one as it was recorded on location....sorry!)
47:59
July 14, 2019
Special Guest: Lisa Papineau
The conversation goes everywhere as Matt and Jon find a kindred spirit in vocalist extraordinaire (and all around great guest) Lisa Papineau. 
1:42:31
July 9, 2019
Special Guest: Martin Atkins
PiL, Ministry, NIN, Killing Joke, Pigface, Invisible Records....our guest! Jon and Matt have a blast getting to know drumming/industrial legend/professor/entrepreneur and all around great guy Martin Atkins. 
1:01:24
June 24, 2019
Halloween In June
Jon and Matt discuss the paranormal and unexplained. CREEPY!!
1:10:11
June 18, 2019
It Came from Outer Space/Happy Father's Day
Jon shares a memory of his father...scaring the bejeezus out of him. 
03:13
June 16, 2019
Terry Langston - Rainbows
The quality isn't great...but this is Matt's favorite song of his dad's. 
03:08
June 16, 2019
Terry Langston - Cobweb Curtains
One more from Matt's dad.
03:26
June 13, 2019
Terry Langston - Too Late Now
More vintage stuff from Matt's dad. 
02:22
June 11, 2019
Terry Langston - Factory Hand
A little taste of Matt's dad doing what he loved. (As mentioned in the Mark Bilyeu episode.)
02:35
June 10, 2019
Special Guest: Mark Bilyeu
Jon and Matt get to know Ozark folk music legend Mark Bilyeu of Big Smith, The Creek Rocks, and more. Definitely worth it!
57:58
June 9, 2019
Special Guest: Mike "That 1 Guy" Silverman
Jon and Matt have a blast getting to know Mike Silverman (aka That 1 Guy). Mike is an accomplished, multi-talented musician who is the best player of The Magic Pipe on the planet. Simply because, he invented it! He has recorded albums with Buckethead, Tom Waits and numerous Bay Area legends. He's also a very nice and down to Earth gentleman, no matter how spectacularly weird the music gets. A MUST listen!!
1:17:14
June 2, 2019
The Ballad of Mikey Two Dicks
That 1 Guy (Mike Silverman) shares his awesome tale of recording with the legendary Tom Waits. Jon and Matt laugh...a lot.
22:32
June 1, 2019
Welcome To The 3rd Floor!
Matt catches up with his long time friend Walter and reflects on college hijinx. (Some are regrettable.) Sorry Sam!
1:03:12
May 29, 2019
Being Gen X (Part 2)
Matt and Jon continue exploring the experiences and influences that got them here.
52:45
May 26, 2019
Being Gen X
Matt and Jon get "back to basics" discussing the struggle of life in 2019 vs. what it was like to stay cool in our 20's and prior. A very introspective personal psychoanalysis of what made Undetermined the Podcast come to fruition. Enjoy Dandies!
43:27
May 22, 2019
Special Guest: C. Michael Lowery
Jon takes a trip down memory lane as he and Matt chat it up with comedian C. Michael Lowery. (Try not to oggle his wife with your ears!)
33:29
May 21, 2019
SolShifter
Our friend Lisa Umbarger whets our appetite with details of her exciting new project!
08:17
May 20, 2019
Toadies Tour Stories
Our friend Lisa Umbarger shares some of her more memorable stories from the road with the Toadies.
05:51
May 14, 2019
Special Guest: Lisa Umbarger
Jon and Matt dig deep(ish) with former Toadies bass player (not bassist!) Lisa Umbarger.  (Cool as F***!!)
1:12:27
May 12, 2019
Near Mrs.
Jon, Eric, and Matt recall "scandalous" moments in marriage. 
20:19
May 9, 2019
Captain Swaggart's Underpants
Politics, scandals, birthdays, pornography...and more! (All within 25 minutes!)
24:38
May 7, 2019
May The 4th Be With You
For May the 4th (be with you,) Eric and Jon discuss their favorite memories from 1977-79, when Star Wars - Episode 4, " A New Hope," finally landed in middle America. 
10:08
May 5, 2019
Undetermined - Episode 6, "The Dark Side."
Eric Brown joins us again at Dandy McCandy Studios to discuss Star Wars and political flaccidity for a special "May the 4th ( Be With You)" episode.
39:45
May 5, 2019
Fun With Auto-Tune
Jon brings the (T) Pain.
03:02
April 25, 2019
Episode 5.1 - The People Under The Stage (Part 2)
The drama continues!
1:07:29
April 24, 2019
Scuttlebutt
College cuisine at its finest!
03:49
April 23, 2019
Episode 5 - The People Under The Stage (Part 1)
Jon and Matt are joined by their old friend Eric Brown and relive the glory days of undergrad theater. 
55:08
April 23, 2019
Whiny Dancer
Matt shares a story about an epic dance recital. 
07:32
April 22, 2019
Mistress Kitten
The guys discuss their favorite internet mistakes.
03:56
April 22, 2019
Live Evil
 Satan oscillate my metallic sonatas!
03:14
April 17, 2019
Episode 3.1 - Snowflakes Are Still Fungible
The rest of...the story.   Check out Jerry and Scott at Two Relevant Guys!
36:01
April 9, 2019
Episode 4 - Momo and the Zombies
The guys explore beliefs in our society...and Zombies.
41:42
April 7, 2019
Episode 3 - Snowflakes Are Fungible
Catch the HOT DNC on GOP action! Jon and Matt take on conservative friends/foes Scott and Jerry of the 2 Relevant Guys podcast.
41:23
April 3, 2019
Episode 2 - At Least Ed Gein Had Principals
Comrades discuss fearless leader and blind loyalties!
30:39
April 1, 2019
Episode 1 - Death By Fonda
The guys talk about schizophrenia...and other stuff.
33:16
March 31, 2019
Legend of Dandy McCandy
Discover the origin of our fiendish mascot!!
09:00
March 31, 2019