
UX Like Us
By Roman Bercot & Larry King
UX Like Us is a podcast for the User Experience community. Designers, researchers, analysts, strategists - even product managers and front-end developers - will feel right at home as we discuss the techniques, tools, and toys that help us bring great products to life.

Navigating the Post-Pandemic UX Job Market - UX Like Us - S2E29
As the pandemic recedes, unprecedented numbers of employees seek new jobs that better suit the new reality of work-from-anywhere. And as the economy recovers, companies need to fill roles put on hold or eliminated during the COVID-19 crisis.
The result is frenetic UX jobs market as pent-up demand for talent meets workers ready to find their next gig. But despite lots of opportunities, locking in the perfect role remains a challenge even for UX-famous designers. In our season 2 finale, Larry and Roman discuss the Great Resignation and expand on thoughts Dan Saffer recently shared about his work search.
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44:51
July 07, 2021

Designers in Space - UX Like Us - S2E28
The Space industry is shaping up to be one of the most significant growth areas in the market, estimated to exceed $1 Trillion by 2040. All this growth leads to new opportunities for User Experience professionals. Join us as we chat with Paul Lumsdaine, UX Designer at NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, about the unique challenges facing Designers in space.
Show Notes
Paul Lumsdaine - Senior Lead User Experience Designer - NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory | LinkedIn
For All Mankind | Apple TV+
Space Shuttle Enterprise - Wikipedia
JaimeLevy.com
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) - Robotic Space Exploration
Emma Kalayjian
The Studio at JPL
Sonos | Wireless Speakers and Home Sound Systems
Episode artwork by NASA on Unsplash
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37:09
May 25, 2021

The Right Way to Structure Teams
Building successful products requires Design, Product, Engineering, Marketing, Support, Documentation, Operations... everyone working together. So why do we continue to structure our organizations in silos? This week Larry and Roman discuss how to align people, goals, and incentives with cross-functional teams while continuing to mature and evolve skills with communities of practice.
Show notes
6 Top Picks for UX Podcasts by Berenice DeGusti
Manager Tools and Career Tools are free weekly podcasts designed to give managers and individual contributors actionable recommendations to further their careers
Allen curve - Wikipedia
Conway's law - Wikipedia
Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais
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44:52
May 11, 2021

Stop Saying It Depends
The right answer to every question does in fact depend on the context. But answering every question with "It depends" makes designers seem spineless, undermining others' confidence in our ability, judgment, and leadership. In this episode, Roman and Larry offer practical suggestions for building decisiveness and eliminating "It depends" from your vocabulary.
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Show notes:
11 Ways Emotionally Intelligent People Overcome Uncertainty
Are You Actually Going to Get Fired?
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31:43
March 30, 2021

When Should You Override Your Direct’s Design?
Designers should be given the freedom to make the best design they can without the fear of their designs getting changed for arbitrary reasons. This is a tricky scenario because design leaders have to believe in the designs their team produces. In this episode, we discuss finding a balance between trusting your designers and leading them in a positive direction.
Also, Larry got a puppy and is definitely not dead.
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39:36
February 12, 2021

the UX of Distance Learning
In a world where everyone has to learn online, why are the platforms so bad? Larry and Roman discuss the user experience of distance learning sites and some low hanging fruit that could make life a little easier for students and their parents.
We also briefly discuss Alexa’s push to be more proactively helpful, and follow up on the Anova Precision Oven’s capabilities when it comes to making holiday prime rib.
Episode art by Giu Vicente on Unsplash
Show Notes
Microsoft Teams - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software
Microsoft Teams Together Mode - https://news.microsoft.com/innovation-stories/microsoft-teams-together-mode/
Google Workspace - https://workspace.google.com
Google Classroom - https://edu.google.com/products/classroom/
Schoology - https://www.schoology.com
TechCrunch: Googles New Logos Are Bad - https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/06/googles-new-logos-are-bad
University of Phoenix - https://www.phoenix.edu
Harvard Business School Online - https://online.hbs.edu
Trello - https://trello.com
Minecraft - https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/
Beck, Loser - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7PlMqsc5Cc
Perfect Prime Rib - https://youtu.be/NUQ49SoteE0
the Anova Precision Oven - https://anovaculinary.com/anova-precision-oven/
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59:47
January 12, 2021

DesignOps
Larry and Roman wrap up 2020 with a discussion of Design Ops (after a quick diversion into the Anova Precision Oven). In the last few years Design Operations (or DesignOps, as the cool kids call it) has emerged as an important role for a lot of teams. We discuss what Design Operation are, what kind of teams need DesignOps, and the right way to say it.
Show Notes
the Anova Precision Oven - https://anovaculinary.com/anova-precision-oven/
Dave Malouf on Twitter - https://twitter.com/daveixd?s=20
Org Design for Design Orgs book - https://orgdesignfordesignorgs.com/2016/08/30/the-printed-book-is-here/
Design Ops Handbook - https://www.designbetter.co/designops-handbook
Rosenfeld Media Communities - https://rosenfeldmedia.com/communities/
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34:39
December 28, 2020

the Robot Episode - UX Like Us - S2E22
Larry and Roman explore the design of robots in science fiction and real life. Should robots have faces? What about gender? Are Asimov ‘s Laws of Robotics enough for responsible robot design?
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01:01:27
December 11, 2020

AI-powered Design - S2E21 - UX Like Us
Product Designer Jordan Singer (@jsngr) recently shocked the design world with his Figma plugin that renders interface designs using narrative text as the input. Larry King (@LAKing) and Roman Bercot (@Stuporman) discuss whether designers have reason for concern in this episode of UX Like Us.
Show Notes
https://twitter.com/jsngr/status/1284511080715362304
Is the creative industry equipped to work with emerging technologies?
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33:07
October 05, 2020

2 Kinds of Design
In our Season 2 premier, Larry King and Roman Bercot discuss why Industrial age design practices don’t hold up in the cloud era. Modern product design and development teams must adopt an iterative, experiment-driven approach. Inspired by thoughts from Christina Wodtke and Dan Brown here: https://twitter.com/brownorama/status/1170847783705858048?s=21. Photo by Martim Braz via Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/photos/LrZb1PQeC3o
35:20
September 13, 2019

Everybody Isn’t Not a Designer
Summary
With #DesignTwitter becoming increasingly toxic, @LAKing and @Stuporman take on one of the issues making designers lose their minds:
Is everyone a designer?
We discuss a bit of background, why it matters, and our own takes on the issue as well as the dumpster fire design discourse has become.
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47:12
July 01, 2019

Maturity Models to Advance Your Practice
Summary
Roman Bercot and Larry King discuss a variety of maturity models and how to choose one that suits your needs. What is a maturity model? What is a model used for? Which model works best? Listen to this episode for most underrated tool in the designers tool belt.
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Show Notes
Nielson Norman Group - Corporate UX Maturity
Jared Spool - Driving Product Teams To Become More Design Mature
Jared Spool - The Flexibility of the Four Stages of Competence
Leah Buley - User experience Capabilities assessment
Stuff Designers Love
Essential [ADHD] Ideas for Parents
Cover Image
The ZImmers “My Generation” -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY
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01:02:59
June 06, 2019

UX Bootcamps - UX Like Us 17
Kelly Nakawatase (@UX_Kelly) joins the show to share her experience entering the design field as a graduate of General Assembly.
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Show Notes
Episode image: R. Lee Ermey and Arliss Howard in Full Metal Jacket (1987)
Should you take a UX bootcamp? - https://medium.com/@uxkelly/should-you-take-a-ux-bootcamp-69acf44bec9f
Lindsay Ellis - YouTube - https://youtu.be/KznZcK7ksf4
Hercules - https://youtu.be/KznZcK7ksf4
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42:10
May 27, 2019

Do Designers Need Jobs to be Done?
Summary
Roman Bercot and Larry King explore Clayton Christensen’s Jobs to be Done framework and whether product design professionals need this “occasionally useful gimmick.” What is a JTBD? Why should designers use them? How many milkshake jokes can we make? And the new Staples branding gets a nod on Stuff Designers Love.
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Show Notes Clayton Christensen tells the Milkshake story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfGtw2C95Ms
Ash Maurya attempts to define Jobs to be Done - https://blog.leanstack.com/what-is-a-job-to-be-done-jtbd-21304ce7441b
Staples unveils their new logo - https://twitter.com/rysimmons/status/1113464764859068421?s=20
The Pepsi design brief - https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-021109.pdf
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57:06
April 22, 2019

UX Like Us 15 - the Agile Manifesto
18 years after the Agile Manifesto was published, Agile development methodologies dominate the way we make software. But are any of these methodologies truly Agile? Roman and Larry discuss the 4 Agile Values and 12 Agile Principles to see where we have gone astray.
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Show Notes
Manifesto for Agile Software Development
VersionOne State of Agile report
the Lean Startup by Eric Ries
Notion app
Cover photo by Olga Guryanova on Unsplash
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01:18:49
March 22, 2019

Design Ethics - UX Like Us 14
As designers realize greater impact and influence in their organizations, Design Ethics becomes an increasingly important discussion. We start the conversation with the UX of Ts & Cs, the Surveillance Industrial Complex, and designing weapons.
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Show Notes
Design Ethics and the Limits of the Ethical Designer
Microsoft CEO defends US military contract that some employees say crosses a line
Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe
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44:33
March 15, 2019

the Overlap Pt. 2 - UX Like Us 13
Nelson Yu, Director of Strategy and Business Development at Experian, joins us to give a product manager’s view of the overlap between PM and Design. And you’ll never guess what Nelson picks for Stuff Designers Love!
Cover Photo by Josh Calabrese on Unsplash
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Show Notes
Product School Events
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58:28
March 08, 2019

When Should You Redesign?
In light of several high-profile redesigns greeted by user revolt, Larry asks when is redesign the right move? How might we allow for user choice, while also allowing us iterate and innovate? Stuff Designers Love: indoor skydiving.
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Show Notes
Herb Caudill: Lessons from 6 software rewrite stories
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43:30
March 01, 2019

The Smart and Creepy Home - UX Like Us - 11
Larry's smart home increasingly belongs to Amazon. Will Amazon use Eero to make setting up smart homes easier? Should Eero owners worry about their privacy?
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Show Notes
The Verge: Why Amazon buying Eero feels so disappointing
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/12/18221441/amazon-buying-eero-disappointing
Analysis of the Eero acquisition by Amazon
Culture Eats Strategy
https://anchor.fm/uxlikeus/episodes/Culture-Eats-Strategy---UX-Like-Us---10-e35973
Episode 10 of UX Like Us feat. Kevin M. Hoffman
The Overlap
https://anchor.fm/uxlikeus/episodes/The-Overlap-e2u7f3
Episode 7 of UX Like Us
Bose Build Speaker or Headphones
https://build.bose.com
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47:03
February 14, 2019

Culture Eats Strategy - UX Like Us - 10
Kevin M. Hoffman, author of Meeting Design, discusses the power of culture in our organizations. What shapes culture? What transcends cultures and works across contexts? What levers can we pull to influence our cultures, regardless of title?
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Show notes
Kevin M. Hoffman
http://www.kevinmhoffman.com/
Meeting Design
http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/meeting-design/
Erika Hall's tweet about engineering culture:
https://twitter.com/mulegirl/status/1092848898819805186
Sarah Nelson's Tweet on Influence
https://twitter.com/sarahbeee/status/931591644876496896
Culture mapping
http://www.xplaner.com/culturemap/
Blowhard Syndrome
http://xuhulk.tumblr.com/post/110549967516/stop-blowhard-syndrome
Gov.uk
https://www.gov.uk/
USDS
https://www.usds.gov/
18f
https://18f.gsa.gov/
Edgar Schien and Humble Inquiry
https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/edgar-h-schein
https://www.amazon.com/Humble-Inquiry-Gentle-Instead-Telling/dp/1609949811/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549457317&sr=8-1&keywords=humble+inquiry
01:09:40
February 08, 2019

Bold Predictions for UX in 2019
Larry King and Roman Bercot discuss Roman’s Bold Predictions for UX in 2019. Plus, we discuss InVision's The New Design Frontier state of design report.
52:21
February 01, 2019

Fresh Perspectives
Larry and Roman discuss exciting new talks from UX Camp DC presenters:
@danachis
@feadog
@jeffpass
Stuff Designers Love twitter thread by @bethdean: https://twitter.com/bethdean/status/1084153270644310016
35:14
January 24, 2019

The Overlap
Larry considers the overlap between UX and Product Management. And a great new sketching app for iPad Pro.
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47:22
January 11, 2019

What is a Design Strategist?
Larry and Roman welcome 2019 by discussing the role of a design strategist, business strategy, ethics, vision, super aggregators, and tiki bars along the way.
44:02
January 04, 2019

The Tool Show
Larry and Roman discuss the 2018 Design Tools Survey, and how our tools shape our art.
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UXTools.co 2018 Design Tools Survey (https://uxtools.co/survey-2018)
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Actionable Futures Framework by Nordkapp (https://futures.nordkapp.fi/process-and-methods/)
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Ghost (http://ghost-official.com/)
34:56
December 14, 2018

I’m Gonna Be A Webmaster
Who should go into UX? Larry and Roman discuss traits that can make for a great UX professional, and stuff designers love.
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Jake Knapp's 'Make Time' talk at Webdagene 2018 -- https://vimeo.com/297313282?utm_campaign=Design%20Sprint%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Revue%20newsletter
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Dissecting the Glee logo on Typography Reddit -- https://www.reddit.com/r/typography/comments/ku9uh/dae_find_this_really_annoying_about_the_glee_logo/
33:13
December 06, 2018

The WIP Problem
Roman is disappointed with Dark Mode. Larry talks about the Phoenix Project.
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The Big Batch / Small Batch diagram by John Cutler: https://twitter.com/johncutlefish/status/1002193108765831168
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The Phoenix Project by Kevin Behr, George Spafford, and Gene Kim: https://itrevolution.com/book/the-phoenix-project/
44:33
November 29, 2018

Thank-UX-giving
Just in time for Thanksgiving in the US, it’s the UX Like Us Thank-UX-giving episode. We discuss favorite dishes and all the user experience things we're grateful for.
30:35
November 22, 2018

Ending the Existential Crisis
Larry’s recent trip to the Magic Kingdom provides some inspired examples of Experience Design. We put the title debate to bed (hopefully) forever.
34:25
November 15, 2018