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It's a Very Exciting Time

It's a Very Exciting Time

By Scott Vandehey & Chuck Lauer Vose

A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend. Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it's a very exciting time!
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01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?

It's a Very Exciting TimeOct 30, 2022

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01:14:02
David Grusch: 1933 UFO Crash Retrieval in Italy
Apr 14, 202457:45
Mysterious Drones Swarm Navy Ships and Air Force Bases
Apr 01, 202401:18:16
Is AARO’s Historical Report a Coverup?
Mar 18, 202401:02:06
Garry Nolan, Chris Mellon, Karl Nell, and more at the SOL Foundation Symposium
Mar 04, 202401:48:36
DODIG: Lack of UAP Plan May Pose a Threat
Feb 19, 202401:06:02
What We Learned from Alien Interviews
Feb 05, 202401:18:20
David Grusch Was In Secret Program to Track UAP
Jan 22, 202401:00:01
Varginha: The Roswell of Brazil
Jan 16, 202401:26:26
David Grusch Has Firsthand Knowledge
Dec 17, 202342:35
“Catastrophic” UFO Disclosure
Dec 04, 202301:14:09
Kirkpatrick Retires, Speculative History of UFO Reverse Engineering
Nov 13, 202301:42:51
“Nothing New. Pointless.” AARO’s 2023 UAP Report and Congress gets DODIG in a SCIF
Nov 01, 202301:28:42
Grusch & Elizondo Predict a “Wild” 2024
Oct 17, 202301:26:30
NASA Releases UAP Report; Senate Pressures AARO; 30+ More Whistleblowers!

NASA Releases UAP Report; Senate Pressures AARO; 30+ More Whistleblowers!

It’s been a busy few weeks! We briefly touch on the Alien Mummy story in Mexico, report on some House UFO gossip, including another upcoming UAP hearing. We look at reports that multiple senators have been pressuring AARO to do a better job protecting whistleblowers, and a new article claiming more than 30 additional whistleblowers have come forward to the ICIG directly. And lastly, we discuss the report released by NASA’s independent UAP study team, which manages to make a lot of solid recommendations about NASA’s role in gathering UAP data moving forward, while also being dismissive and condescending toward the topic in general.
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Oct 02, 202301:29:43
AARO’s New Boss Launches Website, Avi Loeb Finds Interstellar Material

AARO’s New Boss Launches Website, Avi Loeb Finds Interstellar Material

We’re back with news from around the UAP community. First, Chuck’s here to talk about Avi Loeb’s claim to have recovered fragments of an interstellar object. Then we’ve got a quick update on more whistleblower activity. And finally, we’ve got some news about AARO, who recently moved in the org chart to report directly to Deputy Defense Secretary Hicks, who knocked some heads together and finally got their website launches (though it still has no contact info). Also, we discuss some reports that AARO themselves may be in possession of “anomalous materials!”



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Sep 11, 202301:25:29
Dainty DoD is Concerned UAP Hearings Have Sullied Its Reputation

Dainty DoD is Concerned UAP Hearings Have Sullied Its Reputation

Although Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we’re back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch’s classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearings in the House Oversight Committee to protect the reputation of the DOD. Plus, White House national security spokesman John Kirby dodges an opportunity to deny Grusch’s claims, while Gov. Christie laughs off a UFO question at the Republican presidential debate.



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Aug 28, 202345:10
Grusch Health Records Leaked; Scientist claims ET body program
Aug 14, 202301:31:54
UAP Hearing Aftermath: Kirkpatrick attacks, Pentagon evades, and Lockheed locks.

UAP Hearing Aftermath: Kirkpatrick attacks, Pentagon evades, and Lockheed locks.

In this week’s exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week’s explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon’s claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick’s weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower allegations that they’re involved in the reverse engineering program.


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Aug 08, 202301:06:58
Alien Bodies!? Whistleblower Grusch and Navy Pilots in House UAP Hearing

Alien Bodies!? Whistleblower Grusch and Navy Pilots in House UAP Hearing

The House Oversight Committee’s UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it was notable that they testified under oath to an engaged and bipartisan group of representatives. There was no joking, no attempts to undermine the claims being made, and no political maneuvering. The tone was remarkably serious, and the clear impression is that Congress isn’t letting this topic go. They’re on the ball, and already talking about next steps, including the formation of a UAP select committee with subpoena power!


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Jul 29, 202301:46:51
Grusch, Fravor, and Graves to testify at House UAP Hearing

Grusch, Fravor, and Graves to testify at House UAP Hearing

They’ve announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee’s UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they’re making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confront ongoing Pentagon interference in their UFO investigation. It’s clear Congress knows more than they’re saying… Could it be the reason they’re pushing so hard is because they already have smoking gun evidence?

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Jul 25, 202301:07:40
22. The UAP Disclosure Act of 2023

22. The UAP Disclosure Act of 2023

Huge news this week as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduces the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023! This is a bipartisan NDAA amendment that would introduce a JFK-style UAP record review board who would review all government records with the intent to release all UAP items within 25 years. Huge! We talk about the implications of this, why it matters, and what the limitations might be. We also discuss the upcoming House UAP hearing, which has been scheduled for July 26, and the increasing willingness of Congress to take the topic seriously. Buckle up!


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Jul 16, 202301:18:38
21. “A military complex accountable to no one,” Rubio & Coulthart on UAP Whistleblower Grusch

21. “A military complex accountable to no one,” Rubio & Coulthart on UAP Whistleblower Grusch

Chuck is out sick, but we’ve got a special cohost for today: Scott’s wife, Annie! We’re going to be discussing the continuing news of impending UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, possibly this month! We have additional comments from Marco Rubios’ NewsNation interview, discussing whistleblower concerns that speaking out is punishable by death, and the specter of an unaccountable UAP complex. And journalist Ross Coulthart appeared on all the podcasts, and left some juicy bits of information for us, including the possibility that one of the recovered craft was too large to move, and they just built a building around it! Plus, whistleblowers under threat to sign new NDAs and some legal considerations around private contractors working with government-provided UFO material.


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Jul 09, 202358:57
20. Congress is taking UAP whistleblower Grusch’s claims seriously

20. Congress is taking UAP whistleblower Grusch’s claims seriously

Chuck is still on vacation, but the UFO news just keeps coming hot and heavy, so Scott’s back with another solo episode to keep you up-to-date. We’ve got several stories this week, including an alleged secret Canadian UAP reverse engineering program and continued denials from the Pentagon. But the biggest story is that Congress is taking the claims of whistleblower David Grusch very seriously. We’ve got quotes from multiple Congresspeople as well as new UAP provisions written into the upcoming Intelligence Community Authorization Act that will remove funding from UAP programs that haven’t reported to Congress and a ticking clock for defense contractors to turn over any UFO material or information they got from the government, or face penalties!


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Jun 29, 202342:45
19. David Grusch Week 2: The Vatican, UFO “agreements,” and coverups.
Jun 18, 202333:40
18. “Urgent and Credible” - Whistleblower David Grusch

18. “Urgent and Credible” - Whistleblower David Grusch

Jun 11, 202301:47:22
17. NASA’s UAP Team Needs More Data

17. NASA’s UAP Team Needs More Data

Jun 04, 202301:17:49
16. Dr. Garry Nolan
May 23, 202347:37
15. Is AARO Being Set Up to Fail? #UFOMamaBear

15. Is AARO Being Set Up to Fail? #UFOMamaBear

We're back is a bit of followup on the recent UAP hearing. In particular a few red flags have been raised that seem to indicate that the DOD is, at best, dragging their feet, and at worst, actively working to sabotage AARO, the UFO office set up at the behest of Congress. In addition to that, we're hearing increasingly specific information about whistleblowers testifying to both AARO and Congress, which raises the question of why Dr. Kirkpatrick said there's no credible evidence. Something doesn't add up here, and it feels like pressure is building.


Also, we dub Senator Kirsten Gillibrand "UFO Mama Bear," joining the ranks of Chris "UFO Daddy" Mellon.


References

  • Tim McMillan: AARO doesn’t have Title 50 authority.

  • The Debrief: Here Are the Major Takeaways You Missed From the Recent Senate Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

  • Reddit: New letter from US Senators Mark Warner and Marco Rubio to DOD expressing concerns about NDAA provisions

  • New York Post: Three months after Chinese spy balloon, DoD still hasn’t strengthened UFO analysis office

  • Job posting: AARO Deputy Director

  • Klaus: Job posting states that candidates should have expertise in “foreign material acquisition and exploitation.”

  • Chris Mellon: “I find the testimony of US military personnel in the Nimitz case perfectly credible evidence…”

  • Chris Mellon: “For Dr. Kirkpatrick to claim there is no credible evidence is disingenuous at best.”

  • Garry Nolan: “Anecdotal evidence by credible witnesses… is data.”

  • Garry Nolan: “The extraordinary claims/evidence meme is pretentious nonsense.”

  • Lue Elizondo: “The fact is - I've already spoken to AARO at length.”

  • Liberation Times: Senator Gillibrand Invites UFO Whistleblowers To Share Testimony With Her Office

  • Daily Mail: Six whistleblowers who claim they worked on military UFO programs retrieving and analyzing crash material have come forward to spill their secrets to senior members of congress

  • Reddit: The last five years have spoiled everyone…

May 08, 202301:02:54
14. Congress Gets Mad: The April 2023 UAP Hearing!

14. Congress Gets Mad: The April 2023 UAP Hearing!

For the last several weeks, rumors have been swirling that Congress was upset at the DoD over perceived foot-dragging on the topic of UAP. Sen. Gillibrand was demanding answers about a funding shortfall for the new AARO office, and many Congresspeople seemed frustrated with the lack of clarity from the military around the spy balloon shoot-downs. So when it was announced that a new public UAP hearing would be held soon, the community went wild. Speculation about what would come up in the hearing ranged from persistent rumors of whistleblower testimony about crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs all the way up to overt confirmation of non-human intelligence. In the end, the April 2023 hearing didn't cover any of that, and was more of a status update and view inside operations at AARO. We did get a new UAP video, a revised timeline for the next UAP report, some insight into how AARO investigates UAP cases, and hints of further hearings coming soon.


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Apr 24, 202301:28:18
13. Are UFOs Time Travelers?
Mar 27, 202301:21:39
12. Anjali: retired intelligence officer claims alien base in Mojave Desert

12. Anjali: retired intelligence officer claims alien base in Mojave Desert

In March of 2021, I saw a post in r/aliens on Reddit by the title “Retired Defense Intelligence Officer with a CE5 Experience to Share.” It got a lot of attention with a great story and some pretty phenomenal claims. The author, a woman named Anjali, who is a former defense intelligence officer, claims to have met a man in 2018 who excavated a tunnel to find an alien base in a mountain on his land in the Mojave Desert. He took her there, and she met beings from a council overseeing life on earth. They told her that she needed to wake up and remember why she’s here, because humanity’s days are numbered and those who fail to evolve will not transcend.

I'm super excited about today's topic, because the excitement surrounding Anjali's reddit post and the subsequent months of drama are what really got me fully back into the UFO topic, and started Chuck and I talking about it even before we thought of doing a podcast. 

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Mar 12, 202301:28:48
11. Is the Air Force lying to President Biden?

11. Is the Air Force lying to President Biden?

Y'all, it has been a *wild* two weeks since the US shot down three UFOs that turned out to be hobby balloons. The Pentagon is being weird about the balloons, the Senate is being weird about UAP, some sources claim the Navy told Biden that the Air Force is lying to him about UAP, and possibly as a result, Biden created his own independent UAP task force. Oh, and also, the Obama Library has thousands of pages of records about UAP? What is happening?

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Feb 26, 202301:04:52
10. Chinese spy balloon, UFOs, and the 2001 Disclosure Project press conference

10. Chinese spy balloon, UFOs, and the 2001 Disclosure Project press conference

We've got a jam-packed episode for you today. In addition to our planned topic, we open by discussing the news that the US has shot down a Chinese spy balloon, as well as two other UFOs! After discussing why they're likely balloons, but that's still interesting for the UFO community, we get to the main topic:

The 2001 Disclosure Project press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. At this conference, Dr Steven Greer (who has become a controversial figure in the UFO community) brought over 20 military, intelligence, and government witnesses together to testify to what they know about UFO incursions in our airspace, and the off-the-books crash retrieval programs hidden in from proper government accountability.

It's gonna be a wild ride!

Resources: Balloon Overflights:
Disclosure Project Press Event:
Feb 13, 202301:27:05
09. Betty & Barney Hill
Jan 29, 202301:15:38
08. The 2022 UAP Report is Here! #UFODaddy

08. The 2022 UAP Report is Here! #UFODaddy

It's finally here! We've been waiting for the 2022 annual UAP report since halloween. We'll talk about what the report says, ask some questions about what it means, and dig into the community reaction to it. Let's go!

References:

  • 2022 Annual Report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
  • Reddit: "They took 8 pages to say: You asked us to keep track of UAPs. We did that…"
  • Reddit: "We have only the best people reporting plastic bags maneuvering at high rates of speed."
  • Post Disclosure World: "I'd argue the US government wants it to go away. But know it can't."
  • Stand For Better: "several people are testifying with AARO regarding historical UFO crash retrieval programs."
  • Chris Mellon isn't mad, just disappointed: "If the intent was to make the report as anodyne, unremarkable, and boring as possible, the authors did exceptionally well."
Jan 15, 202301:10:25
07. USS Nimitz Encounter
Jan 09, 202301:15:41
06. Where is the 2022 UAP Report?
Dec 12, 202201:10:39
05. Recommendations for UFO books, videos, etc

05. Recommendations for UFO books, videos, etc

Chuck's out sick this week, so I've got a mini-episode for you. If you've enjoyed the topic so far, you might be interested in going a bit further. If so, here are some books, TV series, documentaries, and podcasts that I'd recommend.

Books
Series Documentaries
  • The Phenomenon by James Fox, 2020 — Well-regarded in the UFO community as a summary
  • Ariel Phenomenon by Randall Nickerson, 2022 — Covers a famous incident at the Ariel School in Zimbabwe
  • Unacknowledged, by Michael Mazzola, 2017 — A bit breathless, but decent summary of what Steven Greer believes
  • Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers by Jeremey Corbell, 2018 — Perhaps overly credible, but interesting
Podcasts
  • The UFO Rabbit Hole, by Kelly Chase — Easily my favorite, Kelly is a great speaker, and thoughtful
  • Point of Convergence, by ExoAcademian — Get ready to go deep and weird
  • Need to Know, by Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel — Excellent discussion of UFO news by investigative journalists
Nov 27, 202220:17
04. Bob Lazar
Nov 13, 202201:09:29
03. The Admiral Wilson Memo
Nov 01, 202201:07:48
02. Tom DeLonge
Oct 31, 202258:43
01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?

01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?

"Really? You wanna be the UFO guy?" Yeah, actually, I do! Because I think most people don't understand that since 2017 there has been a rapid increase in astonishing information about UFOs. From the 2017 New York Times article disclosing the existence of a secret Pentagon UFO program, to the release of confirmed Navy videos of UFOs, to Congress demanding an annual report about what the military knows about UFOs, to the recent proposal to grant immunity to UFO program whistleblowers — there's been a LOT!

When I was growing up, UFOs were treated as a joke. News reports would include the X-Files theme, and anyone talking about the subject seriously would get teased about "little green men." But that seems to be changing. More and more, the topic is taken seriously.

And the thing is, once you accept, as Congress and the Pentagon seem to have, that there are unidentified craft flying around the sky… what else is real? If it's true? It's a very exciting time!

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Oct 30, 202201:14:02
Bonus: Chuck and Scott get their giggles out

Bonus: Chuck and Scott get their giggles out

A delight for the senses!

Oct 29, 202200:55