Voxology
By Voxology
VoxologySep 12, 2022
454 - Power in Weakness - with Pastor Suzie P. Lind & Dr. Timothy Gombis
Power in Weakness. As you can hear, we are not alone... Mike and Tim are in studio! In person! With friends! It's chaos of the best kind... This week, Mike and Tim are in Nashville for the VOXOLOGY Nonference, which awards them some rare in person time and they are joined by Pastor Suzie P. Lind and Dr. Timothy Gombis to discuss a myriad of things... Power in Weakness! Discipleship as dehumanization! How we show up in our uniqueness to communal events, how different that can be and how we can be prepared to see each other fully! We cover a range of topics under the banner of rehumanizing ministry and church. It's fun and a rare gift.
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453 - To Be Human - Part Seven: Not So With You
To Be Human - Part Seven: Not So With You. Misuse of power? Misunderstanding power? Non discerning power? Today, we explore the idea that Christians should not seek worldly power, but instead focus on loving their neighbors and embodying the teachings of Jesus. There are two types of power: power over and power with. This sets the stage for a deeper exploration of power dynamics in future episodes.
This episode, Mike and Tim explore the concept of power and distinguishes between power over and power with: Power Over is the ability to control or influence others, whether through force, expertise, or social systems. Power With, on the other hand, is relational power that works in cooperation and mutuality. Jesus exemplifies power with, as he serves and empowers others instead of exerting power over them. The conversation also highlights the dangers of using power over, as it inhibits God's work in the world and goes against the nature of the kingdom of God.
Further, as we explore the difference between power over and power with, what is the importance of power under (with), which is exemplified by Jesus? What of the temptation to use power over and the need for discernment in using power in a way that aligns with the teachings of Jesus? The conversation touches on topics such as Christian nationalism, the role of the church, and the importance of community and shared power. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.
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452 - To Be Human - Part Six: Power Over vs. Power With
To Be Human - Part Six: Power Over vs. Power With. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the concept of gatekeeping and the misuse of power in various contexts, including the church and society. They explore the idea of ruling and having dominion over creation, emphasizing the importance of modeling God's rulership, which is based on love, humility, and invitation. This opens us up to our main topic: power over vs. power with. Mike and Tim highlight the need to hold convictions in a way that promotes curiosity, conversation, and hospitality, rather than using them to exclude or shame others. Further, they discuss the concept of power and how it is used by God, the idea of power over versus power with, and how power with is invitational and cooperative, while power over is hierarchical and coercive. How does this play into the importance of environmental stewardship and how is it a way of bearing the image of God?
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451 - How Should We Be Political? - with Dr. Timothy Gombis
First off, we were hit on all sides in this episode. Construction, sick kid interruptions, audio problems... it was bumpy. However, we stuck the landing...
How Should We be Political? Today, Mike and Tim welcome another Tim, Dr. Timothy Gombis, to explore the role of the church in politics and how to navigate political engagement as Christians. The church IS a political entity and the Christian way is political from beginning to end!
However, the focus should be on practicing the politics of the cross, which involves service, love, and advocacy for the weak. It is important to resist being seduced into practicing the politics of this world and instead focus on the politics of the kingdom of God. We also highlight the need to balance mental health with being concerned about justice issues and the importance of taking action at the local level.
Further, we discuss the dangers of getting caught up in national politics and the media's role in fueling anger and division, the idea of loyalty to Jesus and how it should shape our political engagement and the importance of focusing on local issues and taking action in our own communities. We need compassion, empathy, and understanding in our interactions with others, especially those with different political views.
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450 - To Be Human - Part Five: It Is Good
To Be Human - Part Five: It Is Good. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the concept of ruling and what it means to be human. They explore the idea that creation is good, not perfect, and that humans are placed in the world to direct and manage it. They emphasize the importance of enjoying and appreciating creation, as well as the potential for misuse of power and authority. The episode touches on topics such as the purpose of marriage, the value of physical embodiment, and the need to honor God's goodness in our actions.
Further, they explore the themes of enjoyment, creativity, and restoration in the context of ruling and reigning over creation. It emphasizes the idea that God created a world filled with potential and invites humans to participate in the cultivation and enjoyment of that creation. The conversation also touches on the concept of freedom and how it relates to our understanding of what is good, highlighting the importance of finding joy in the simple pleasures of life and appreciating the beauty of nature.
And, hey, it concludes by encouraging listeners to go outside and enjoy something as a spiritual discipline.
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449 - To Be Human - Part Four: Woman & Man
To Be Human - Part Four: Woman & Man. Today we analyze Genesis 1 and the poetic refrain that emphasizes the unity and diversity of humanity as images of God. Let's talk about the themes of the Genesis story and its relationship to ancient Near Eastern creation stories, the image of God and the unity in difference between male and female, the implications for gender equality, the absence of hierarchy between male and female, the image of God and procreation, the image of God and gender identity, treating all humans as image bearers, the Church as a community of image bearers, ruling in community, and the thread of congruity throughout the Bible.... Heyo!
First, we discuss an email on the topics of correcting conditions and disabilities, as well as the implications of the new creation for individuals with disabilities. They explore the concept of the image of God and its significance in human ethics. The conversation also delves into the tension between hope and suffering, and the importance of loving and accepting others. We analyze Genesis 1 and the poetic refrain that emphasizes the unity and diversity of humanity as images of God. The conversation explores the themes of the Genesis story and its relationship to ancient Near Eastern creation stories, the image of God and the unity in difference between male and female, the implications for gender equality, the absence of hierarchy between male and female, the image of God and procreation, the image of God and gender identity, treating all humans as image bearers, the church as a community of image bearers, ruling in community, and the thread of congruity throughout the Bible.
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448 - To Be Human - Part Three: The Royal Dignity of Seth Erre
To Be Human - Part Three: The Royal Dignity of Seth Erre. Today, we continue the conversation on what it means to be human, by exploring different views on the image of God, including the substantive, relational, and functional views.
The conversation highlights the need for Christians to live out their faith in a way that reflects the kingdom of God and promotes inclusivity and love for all people, including the concept of human image and the different views on personhood. We delve into the implications of the functional view and presents the ontological view as a counterargument.
What is the importance of treating all human beings as image bearers and the inherent value of every individual? What is the revolutionary nature of the image of God in Genesis and its impact on ancient societies? The conversation also addresses the treatment of children with special needs and the reevaluation of definitions and vantage points. Annnnd, we wrap it up with a reflection on the use of power and the threat of radical messages.
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447 - To Be Human - Part Two: Statuesque
To Be Human - Part Two: Statuesque. Today, we explore the concept of the image of God in humanity. The "image and likeness" of God were standard statue words used in the ancient Near East, referring to physical representations of deities or kings. How is it that being the image of God is not limited to specific capacities or religious aspects of life, but encompasses the totality of human existence? What is the importance of understanding that humans are meant to be living statues of Yahweh, representing God's presence in the world? What are the implications of the "image of God" for human relationships and the restoration of humanity's image through Jesus?
First, we look at an email about the topics of faith, guidance, and discernment in relation to partying, sex, and drinking. What is the importance of a centered approach rather than a bounded approach to these topics? The goal of Christ-following is to become like Jesus and overcome behaviors that hinder our pursuit of Jesus-likeness. And of course, Tim pushes the need for critical thinking and discernment in engaging with culture.
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446 - To Be Human - Part One: In The Beginning
New series alert! To Be Human... Today, we begin a new conversation around what it means to be human. In this episode, Mike and Tim dive into the meaning of the first sentence of Genesis and the significance of the words 'bereshit' and 'reshit.' What is the purpose of Genesis and the creation story? Why is it important to understand the literary devices used in the text?
Further, we explore the conflict between science and faith in interpreting Genesis. We emphasize that Genesis is not meant to answer scientific questions about ‘how' and ‘when' things happened, but rather the ‘what' and ‘why.’ The importance of curiosity and humility in biblical interpretation is highlighted, as well as the use of symbolism and metaphor in Genesis. We also discuss the flexibility of interpretation and the role of liturgy and tradition in faith. It concludes by emphasizing the role of Jesus and the gospel in understanding Genesis.
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445 - Chapstick for the Soul - with Suzie P. Lind
Chapstick for the Heart. Today, Mike and Tim are joined by the amazing Suzie P. Lind to discuss various topics related to personal growth, relationships, and parenting. They share personal experiences and insights, highlighting the importance of setting boundaries, being aware of one's limits, and learning from past mistakes. The conversation also delves into the challenges of repairing relationships with adult children and the need for self-reflection and growth as parents. How do we take a less bounded approach and impart wonder and love for Jesus, the power of repair and healing and encourage being available for repair and connection? What does it mean to trust Jesus with our children's faith? How doe we repair and connect with adult children? Or connect over outcome-based apology, naming wounds and seeking repair, teach with wonder and connection, invite kids into wonder and curiosity, dismantle the formulaic approach, teach with wonder and age-appropriate methods, teach scripture with life, not the harm of using the Bible for control but shaping lives towards Christlikeness... How do we parent with selflessness and humility, different forms of authority, and exercising authority like Jesus... Yowza.
Parenting is not sin management. How can we emphasize the importance of restoring full humanness in children?
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444 - Strange Religion - with Dr. Nijay Gupta
Today, we have Dr. Nijay Gupta back to talk about his new book, "Strange Religion: How the First Christians Were Weird, Dangerous, and Compelling." In this book, Dr. Gupta discusses and explores the social force of early Christians in the Roman Empire. He highlights the contrast between Roman religion and the beliefs and practices of the early Christians. The early Christians defied Roman hierarchy and power, rejected rituals of appeasement, and emphasized direct access to God. They also practiced gift-giving and generosity, expanding their acts of kindness beyond their own community.
The early Christians challenged the notions of Romanness and monoculturalism, embracing diversity and inclusivity. What are the parallels between Christianity and Roman religion? How does Christianity resemble the Roman religion, including hierarchy and power, appeasement and divine judgment, and elitism and limited access? We talk about the influence of preachers, the role of the church, the professionalization of pastoral ministry, elitism and limited access, building up each other, the teachings and lifestyle of Jesus, authentic relationship with Jesus, dying to everything but Jesus, the daily question of dying, the scandal of pastors falling from grace, and making Christianity weird again...
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443 - Growing Kids God's Way?
Growing Kids God's Way? Is that a thing? WARNING, it gets a little spirited. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the theme of differentiating fruit and outcomes, emphasizing the importance of faithfulness over controlling outcomes. The conversation concludes with a question about parenting and the use of the "rod," from the book of Proverbs. Mike and Tim discuss their perspectives on parenting and discipline. They emphasize the importance of building a close relationship with their children and prioritizing connection over strict discipline, challenge the idea of labeling one way of parenting as 'biblical' and highlight the harmful effects of shame in parenting. What is the difference between outcome-focused parenting and fruit-focused parenting? How do we differentiate between fruit and outcomes in order to focus on faithfulness rather than controlling results? How do we create environments that allow for the growth of fruit, but recognize that fruit cannot be produced or controlled?
00:00 Introduction
07:03Conversation on Super Bowl and Jesus' Appearance
09:13Debate on Jesus Teaching Hate
16:19 Differentiating Fruit and Outcomes
32:16 Parenting and the Difference Between Fruit and Outcomes
35:06 Question on Parenting and the Use of the Rod
01:09:01 Old Creation Dynamics vs New Creation Dynamics
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442 - Revelation - Part Thirty One: The End of the End
Revelation Part Thirty One: The End of the End. This is it. The final episode of our longest series ever. Today, we begin by addressing listener emails and discussing Tim Stafford's gallbladder. Mike and Tim then respond to pushback on topic of platforming younger people on social media and the potential risks and benefits. The conversation shifts to a listener's critique of the Holy Spirit episode and the our response. Then we conclude our long conversation on Revelation with one last look at New Creation and how the resurrection of Jesus serves as the launch of new creation. What is new creation and its implications for the church? What is the significance of Easter as a reminder of the victory and new life found in Jesus? Then one last listener email about the role of pastors and the importance of clarity in defining their responsibilities within the church. Is there a need for reimagining church structures and fostering a culture of lifelong learning among pastors?
00:00 - Listener Emails
06:00 - Platforming Younger People on Social Media
10:00 - Response to Listener's Critique of the Holy Spirit Episode
25:00 - Exploring the Concept of New Creation
40:00 - The Resurrection as the Launch of New Creation
46:25 - Reimagining Easter
51:21 - Expectations for Pastors
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441 - For the Good of the Field
For the Good of the Field.
Two listener questions. Two in depth responses. Alter calls and platforming younger people before they're ready. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the concept of platforming people too early and the potential dangers it poses. They also explore the role of altar calls in evangelism and the early church's view of patience. The conversation highlights the importance of discernment and the need for a balanced approach to these topics. They also explore the concept of patience as a counter-cultural virtue and its application in the teachings of Jesus. The parable of the wheat and weeds is examined as an example of patient ferment, where the Kingdom of God exists alongside evil in the world. The importance of creating a culture of humanization and embodying the goodness of living under the lordship of Jesus is emphasized. The traditional practice of altar calls is questioned, and a broader understanding of evangelism is proposed. The chapter concludes with a call to be patient, resist factionalism, and love those with whom we disagree.
00:00 - Introduction and Background
08:08 - Question 1: Platforming People Too Early
27:59 - Question 2: Altar Calls and Evangelism
44:46 - The Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
01:07:18 - The Purpose of Altar Calls
01:16:36 - Being Patient and Loving Others
Full Episode on the parable here: 289 - The Wheat & The Weeds
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440 - Gospel & Gombis: Part Five
Gospel & Gombis: Part Five. Okokok. This is a long one. Brace yourselves.
The Holy Spirit. Mike and Tim put Gombis on the spot with questions about the Spirit. What is it? What is it's role? What is Paul's understanding of Jesus as part of the triunity and his teaching on the Holy Spirit? They address misconceptions about Paul's teaching and how evangelicals often misread his views on the Spirit. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the Spirit's work in the church and individualized Spirit talk in Acts. Everyone discusses the interpretation of Ephesians 5:18 and the concept of being filled with the Spirit. They explore the idea that the church, as a community, plays a role in being filled with the Spirit and producing the fruits of the Spirit. They also discuss the understanding of spiritual gifts and how they should be viewed as gifts for the benefit of the church rather than personal abilities. Annnnnd, what about praying to the Holy Spirit and the role of spiritual disciplines in the context of community life?
First, Mike and Tim discuss various issues that came up just this morning. They touch on the lack of trust in clergy and instances of sexual misconduct, the rise of the non-religious population, and the tendency to blame deconstruction for people leaving the church. They also explore the identity crisis in America and the need for patience in the church.
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439 - The Spirit of our Politics - with Michael Wear
Today, Mike and Tim are joined by Author and Speaker Michael Wear, to discuss his new book, "The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life." Michael discusses the intersection of Christianity and politics, emphasizing the need to integrate political life into discipleship. He highlights the importance of understanding the role of faith in politics and the impact of Christianity on public life. Wear also addresses the disappearance of moral knowledge and the need for Christians to offer goodness to politics. He challenges the notion that voting is a God-given duty and encourages Christians to steward their influence in a way that is most loving towards their neighbors. Wear shares insights from his experience working in the White House and emphasizes the need to hold politicians and political systems accountable.
In this conversation, Mike and Tim discuss the influence of politics on religious identity. They explore how partisan forces shape religious divides and how political beliefs often take precedence over religious values. They highlight the dangers of political idolatry and the lack of critical thinking in political discourse. The conversation emphasizes the need for Christians to engage in political issues with a focus on goodness and the teachings of Jesus. Overall, the discussion calls for a reevaluation of the relationship between politics and faith.
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438 - Revelation - Part Thirty: To Hell and Back
Revelation - Part Thirty: To Hell and Back. Thirty! Crazy. Today, Mike and Tim first respond to a few emails and discuss the harm and good intentions of religious movements, particularly focusing on purity culture, deconstruction etc. Was there good in those movements as well as bad? Will people just deconstruct the things talked about on this podcast in a few years? They emphasize the importance of curiosity and wonder in inviting others to explore beyond the confines of their beliefs. The conversation also touches on concerns about being labeled as universalists and the role of church in saving people. Overall, they encourage a posture of humility, hospitality, and embodying the better alternative. What is the power of labels, the focus of salvation, the concept of hell, and the church as a community? They challenge the traditional understanding of hell as a place of eternal torment and emphasize the importance of understanding the biblical context. They also discuss the role of the church in embodying faithfulness to Jesus and creating a community of salvation. The Bible is not primarily a story about heaven and hell, but about the reunification of heaven and earth.
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437 - Revelation - Part Twenty Nine: All Things Made New
Revelation - Part Twenty Nine: All Things Made New. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the January blues and the concept of new creation and restoration. They explore the idea of the day of the Lord and the destruction and purification that will occur. They also delve into the building of the church and the testing of the work done by church leaders. How do the themes of renewal, purification, and the ultimate restoration of heaven and earth play out? What of the themes of the overlapping space of heaven and earth, the work of light, fire, and water, the day of the Lord, a new heaven and a new earth, the new Jerusalem, the new Eden, the reckoning and the call to holiness, the function of hell, the resurrection of Jesus, the new creation project, and the human element in the Bible?
- The concept of new creation and restoration is a recurring theme in the Bible.
- The day of the Lord involves both destruction and purification.
- Before the rejoining of heaven and earth, there is work to be done, symbolized by light, fire, and water.
- The day of the Lord is a recurring motif in the Bible, representing a reckoning for human and spiritual wrongdoing.
- The ultimate goal of the biblical story is a new heaven and a new earth, a purified and tested creation.
- The new Jerusalem and the new Eden are images of the restored and perfected creation.
- The Bible calls believers to live holy lives and build on the foundation of Jesus Christ.
- The function of hell in the biblical story is a topic that requires further exploration.
- The resurrection of Jesus is a pivotal event that launches the new creation project.
- The human element in the Bible is evident in the flaws and struggles of the early church.
- Understanding the human element in the Bible can lead to a more authentic and nuanced interpretation of its teachings.
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436 - Revelation - Part Twenty Eight: New Creation
Happy New Year! Today, Mike and Tim discuss their holiday experiences and reflect on their therapy journeys. They then delve into the concept of 'New Creation,' starting with the creation of heaven and earth in Genesis. They explore the cosmic temple and the Garden of Eden, the rupture and separation of heaven and earth, and the manifestation of God's presence. They highlight the importance of understanding the biblical narrative and the implications it has for our lives. They explore the concept of heaven and earth in the Old Testament, highlighting instances of overlapping spaces. It discusses Jacob's dream and Moses and the burning bush as examples of heaven and earth intersecting. The tabernacle and temple are presented as spaces where heaven and earth overlap, with Jesus ultimately becoming the ultimate "heaven and earth space." The conversation also touches on Jesus' authority and the future restoration of all things. What is the church's role as the heaven and earth space and the hope of restoration and new creation?
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435 - Revelation - Part Twenty Seven: Smoke on the Water
Revelation - Part Twenty Seven: Smoke on the Water. Today, Mike and Tim discuss the concept of the lake of fire and its symbolism in the book of Revelation. Merry Christmas!!! What are the origins of this imagery in the Old Testament, particularly in the stories of Sodom and Gomorrah? Does the lake of fire represent destruction rather than eternal conscious torment? What is Hell??? Does the text really advocate for an eternity of torment and separation for "unbelievers?"
- The lake of fire in Revelation represents destruction rather than eternal conscious torment.
- The imagery of burning sulfur and smoke rising is borrowed from the Old Testament, particularly the stories of Sodom and Gomorrah.
- Being left outside the city symbolizes exclusion from the New Jerusalem and the consequences of practicing vices associated with empire.
- Understanding the symbolic nature of these images is crucial for interpreting the book of Revelation. Revelation challenges us to ask hard questions and reckon with our complicity with empire.
- The book of Revelation is not about predicting the end times, but rather about reflecting on our own actions and the actions of the church.
- The themes of injustice, making all things new, and leveling empires are consistent throughout the Bible.
- The Bible is intentionally provocative and invites us to question and wrestle with its teachings.
- Permission is granted to ask hard questions and wrestle with our faith and beliefs.
Yowza.
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434 - Practicing the Way - with John Mark Comer
Practicing the Way. Today, Mike and Tim are joined by old friend John Mark Comer, to discuss his new book and non profit, 'Practicing the Way.' Why “apprentice” instead of disciple? Are we are all being formed by someone or something? Is spiritual formation not so much a Christian thing or even a religious thing, but a human thing? How is community integral to spiritual formation? How is the practice of community far more than church attendance? How does suffering play into all of this?
You can learn more about John Mark's work here: practicingtheway.org/
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433 - Revelation - Part Twenty Six: The Lake of Fire
Don'y skip the banter! Some important news in the front section!
Revelation - Part Twenty Six: The Lake of Fire. We're coming to the end of this ridiculously long series on the book of Revelation. Today, it's the two final battles, judgments and the Lake of fire... What do the final battles represent? Is this when God comes back swingin? Is it the bloody finale so many have dreamt of and still advocate for from the pulpit? Why two? When does this happen? What is the Lake of Fire? Is it Hell? Will people burn there forever? What OT references are needed to understand?
Mike and Tim also spend some time discussing the next 'Nonference' this coming summer as well as a few listener emails.
Tim's new single can be heard here or on any streaming services: SPOTIFY
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432 - The God Who Hides
The God Who Hides. What happens when I don’t feel presence? Why are desert times necessary in my relationship with God – I don’t need them in my other relationships... Why does God seem absent when I need him most? Why does he seem distant? Why does God allow us to feel his absence when we know he is not absent? When you are praying, it is bouncing off the ceiling; read the bible, it is dust… The bible calls this the “hiddenness of God”...
12 different times in OT – he hid his face from his people (9 times in the Psalms) – there is the idea of a God you can’t hide in one sense, but in another sense he at times veils himself from his people:
- Why, LORD, do you stand far off? Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble? (Ps. 10:1)
- How long, LORD? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me? (Ps. 13:1)
- Awake, Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself! Do not reject us forever. Why do you hide your face and forget our misery and oppression? (Ps. 44:23-24)
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431 - The Only Way Out is Through
The Only Way Out is Through. Mike and Tim spend some time unpacking a couple listener emails that deal with hopelessness and worship. This prompts Mike to revisit Walter Bruggeman’s typology:
a. Psalms can be roughly grouped this way, and the flow of human life characteristically is located either in the actual experience of one of these settings, or is in the movement from one to another.
b. This is not a formula, or rigid divide of categories; some Psalms do not seem to fit and some seem to have all 3 points.
- Psalms of orientation (guaranteed creation) -- life is good (Psalm 145) - Psalms of disorientation (songs of disarray) – life hurts (Psalm 13) - Psalms of reorientation (songs of surprising new life) – there is hope in the darkness (Psalm 30) As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Always feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: www.voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
430 - The God Who Disappoints Everyone
The God Who Disappoints Everyone.
- What's up with the resurgence of the Social Gospel in America? Article HERE
- A gospel Grammy Nominee won't stop singing on a plane, because maybe the Lord wants her to? How does this correlate to Christian Nationism? What is, what Tim calls, a sense of 'Divine Entitlement?'
- Lament. Disappointment. Wisdom. Everything is Meaningless. How have people throughout history dealt with a God who disappoints? How does John the Baptist play into this?
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429 - Revelation - Part Twenty Five: Babylon, Continued
Revelation Part Twenty Five: Babylon, Continued. Rome becomes Babylon. In this vision, john as blended together words and images from every single OT passage about the downfall of ancient Babylon, Tyre, and Edom. (Isa. 13, 23, 34, 47; Jer. 50-51; Eze. 26-27). John’s showing how Rome is simply the newest version of the OT archetype of humanity in rebellion against God. They come together and form nations that exalt their own economic and military security into a false God. This isn’t something limited to the past or the future. It’a a portrait of the human condition throughout history. And "Babylons" will come and go leading up the day when Jesus returns to replace Babylon with his kingdom. But how will Jesus’ kingdom come? And it's amazing!! Every single Old Testament passage from the prophets about the fall of Babylon gets quoted in those chapters of Revelation about the fall of Babylon. The questions Mike references: - Am I safe here? - Am I confident here? - Do I belong here? - Am I worth loving? - Am I worth your attention? - Am I wanted here? The article we discuss can be read HERE As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Always feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: www.voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
428 - Revelation - Part Twenty Four: Babylon
Revelation - Part Twenty Four: Babylon. Who was Babylon? What is Babylon? What threat does it offer? What are/were the warnings against and why? How do we relate to Babylon today? How do we subvert? How do repent/reorient? What are the warning signs that we are following into Babylonian ways of life and Empire? Babylon stands as a both an ancient and modern temptation.
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427 - Revelation - Part Twenty Three: The Beast
Revelation - Part Twenty Three: The Beast. The Dragon. The Beast. Who are these creatures? What do they represent? What is their role in all of this? What do we learn in Daniel? What is our part to play? So much to unpack and unlearn from our wrong readings of the book.
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VOXOLOGY Rerun: Midnight Mass - with Kaitlyn Schiess
VOXOLOGY Rerun. Two years ago, we had on the incomparable Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss Mike Flanagan's "Midnight Mass," streaming on Netflix. Full SPOILER WARNING, we talk about the whole series. Midnight Mass is a horror show on Netflix that deals with some heavy theological ideas and has a heavy commentary on Christianity and religion. Kaitlyn, Mike and Tim dive in and pick at themes of grace, prayer, communion and more as revealed in the show. It's a fun conversation as we enter into the Halloween season.
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426 - Revelation - Part Twenty Two: The Talking Snake
Revelation - Part Twenty Two: The Talking Snake. Dragons and Leviathans and snakes, oh my! Today we talk about the history and working context of the talking snake in the Garden and how it informs the Dragon in Revelation. What was the working understanding of that Garden scene? How were snakes seen? How do Seraphim and Cherubim work into it? The Stephen Colbert and Anderson Cooper conversation can be seen here: COLBERT
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Prayers of the People
You hear us calling, Abba Father.
Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy.
Father, we lift up all those who have lost family and loved ones, whose lives have been upended and destroyed. We grieve and lament with them. God, might you meet them in their pain, meet them in their need. God, would you show us how to intervene, how to love in a time of hate, how to be peace makers in a time of war and death. Father, we pray for those who have been taken from their families, that they would be released. That you would meet them in their despair and bring hope and safety and restoration.
Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy.
Father, we ask that you would soften the hearts of our leaders and clear their eyes, that they might advocate for humanities flourishing, not it’s destruction. Lord, give them courage and discernment to make hard decisions in the face of adversity and greed that restore humanity to those they may see as the other.
Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy.
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
You hear us calling, Abba Father.
Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy.
425 - Revelation - Part Twenty One: The Church As Witness
Revelation - Part Twenty One: The Church As Witness. From Daniel to John. Daniel is bound up in the scroll John eats it. Two witnesses as lampstands, which is reference to churches and calling back to Deuteronomy. Martyrs risen from the dead. What is the role of the Church if not raptured? Things are getting weird!
First, Mike and Tim discuss the horror in Israel and Gaza.
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424 - The Academy of Jesus - with Dave Gibbons
The Academy of Jesus. Today, Mike and Tim are joined by Pastor! Mentor! Organizer! Advocate! Entrepreneur! Mr. Dave Gibbons! Dave has so many irons in the fire and stays perpetually curious and open to the Spirit's move. How does he discern God's voice from his own? What has he learned? Where has he seen the spirit move? What practices has he changed over time?
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423 - Revelation - Part Twenty: Captured by Rapture
Revelation - Part Twenty: Captured by Rapture. One aspect of the content of Revelation that needs to be stressed once again is that, there is no rapture in the book of Revelation (It is supposedly narrated at 4:1, the introduction to the book’s central vision). The book of Revelation clearly teaches, and calls on its readers to pray for, the return of Christ. It is not the second coming of Christ that is absent from Revelation but the alleged rapture of the Church by Christ in a kind of secret prequel to the real second coming. How has it become so convoluted? Where did these ideas like Left Behind come from? How did they get so off course? Pre/Post Tribulation? The Millennium?? First, Mike and Tim read a listener email asking for clarification. When reading the imprecatory Psalms, is the desire to see our enemies' destruction a godly attitude? Should we be 'joining' in with the martyrs and call for God's judgment to rain down on those who do evil?
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422 - Revelation - Part Nineteen: Thunderstruck
Revelation - Part Nineteen: Thunderstruck. Seals & Trumpets & Bowls, Oh My! These will serve like nesting dolls as they harken back and comment on current events. Last episode we saw the OT Days of the Lord references. Now we see what John was commenting on in his own time.
God’s warning judgments through the seals and trumpets did not generate repentance among the nations, just like the exodus plagues only hardened Pharaoh's heart. But the lamb, he conquered his enemies by loving them, dying for them and now the message of the Lamb's scroll reveals the mission of his army, the church. God’s kingdom will be revealed when the nations see the church imitating the loving sacrifice of the lamb. Not killing their enemies, but dying for them. It is God’s mercy shown through Jesus’ followers that will bring the nations to repentance. and this surprising claim is the message of the open scroll that John has placed at the exact center of the entire book.
God’s love gives rise to his judgement; God’s judgment is not the problem, but the solution to a problem. Adam and eve now sit under the serpent’s authority, tearing heaven and earth and unleashing the accuser’s destructive power on God’s good world. So much!!!
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421 - Revelation - Part Eighteen: The Day of the Lord
IMPORTANT EPISODE! Revelation - Part Eighteen: The Day of the Lord. Understanding the 'Day of the Lord' is key to unlocking so much in the book of Revelation. What was the Day of the Lord? What was it in the OT? How did it connect to Passover? How did Jesus and Peter and Paul reference it? And HOW DOES REVELATION USE IT AND SPEAK OF IT'S COMING??? What do we do with all the violence when we are told of a peaceful and loving God? What is the purpose of the Day of the Lord????
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420 - Revelation - Part Seventeen: The Lion & The Lamb
Revelation Part Seventeen: The Lion & The Lamb. Today we spend some more time in chapter 5 of Revelation, focusing on the imagery around the Lamb who sits on the throne. What language is parodied language of the time? Whose blood is on the lamb? How has that been co opted to support religious violence? What is it actually advocating for? What does this show us about old testament violence and the stumbling block of God supporting and purporting said violence? How do we reconcile victory through defeat and how does it inform our faith and daily lives?
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419 - Revelation - Part Sixeteen: Worship is Political
Revelation - Part Sixeteen: Worship is Political. Today, we look at aspects of Revelation chapters 4 and 5 that deal with worship. How is worship political? How is it counter cultural? How is it an act of resistance? What is John commenting on? How were his words a response to political posturing and worship of state? How do we exist as members of society, but as participants in the Kingdom of God?? What imagery from the OT is john referencing and why? Mike and Tim first respond to push back on the conversation around Christian therapists. What were they trying to articulate about how you find a therapist and were they wrong?
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418 - Revelation - Part Fifteen: The Throne at the Center of the Universe
Revelation - Part Fifteen: The Throne at the Center of the Universe. Epic title. Back to Revelation and a look into the Emperor Domitian, who reigned from 81-96. When Domitian (81-96 AD) became emperor there was significant change in the demand for deification. Domitian was obsessed with his own (and his brother Titus' and father Vespasian's) deity. Augustus once explicitly forbade his fellow citizens to address him with the title “Lord.” He did not want to be master of slaves, but first citizen of the empire. But Domitian ignored his forefather and followed in the ways of Nero….He did not wish to be a citizen among his fellow citizens, but a superhuman being in charge of the destiny of humanity. Coins of the era call Domitian the father of the gods... Domitian insisted on being called "Lord and God" whenever he was mentioned or addressed.
How does John address this? What are we to take away?
First, Tim shares some troubled times with how our language and words can incite violence against the LGBTQ community and how everyone, regardless of your opinion, needs to choose words more wisely. Laura Ann Carleton was murdered in Lake Arrowhead California for displaying a pride flag outside her shop. People can become militarized and violent by language they hear from the pulpit, news etc. Words carry power.
Also, Mike and Tim discuss an email about therapy. Should you seek a Christian therapist or does it matter?
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417 - Center Set Sexuality - with Suzie P. Lind
Center Set Sexuality. Today, we talk with Pastor Suzie P. Lind about what a center set approach to sexuality might look like. What does healthy desire look like? How do we talk to our kids about sex? Why wait until marriage? What is God's ideal?
Angel Story: -Gnosticism -Overspiritualized view of sex -Bounded approach to sex: Purity Culture -Led to purity codes -Taught us to fear sexual desire Animal Story: -Expressive Individualism -Underspiritualized view of sex -Fuzzy set approach to sex: Anything goes -Consent is only factor -Taught us to follow Sexual desire Human story: -Embodied Theology -Center Set approach to sex -Which leads to wisdom -Taught us to form sexual desire
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416 - The Ballot & The Bible - with Kaitlyn Schiess
The Ballot & The Bible. This episode we sit down with Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss her new book, 'The Ballot and the Bible.' How does our faith inform our politics? How does our involvement in politics effect our faith? What is the matrix by which we measure or remain accountable? How do we approach this new political season that will more than likely be as contentious as the previous?? What does the Bible tell us about this balance? Kaitlyn is a dear and incredibly wise friend and we always jump at the chance to have her on. She is a co host of the Holy Post podcast.
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415 - Revelation - Part Fourteen: Sexual Immorality
Revelation - Part Fourteen: Sexual Immorality. Here we go... Image. Likeness. Desire. Dominion. Human. Purity. Angels. Animals. Holy moly. God created us fully human – not to be animals, not be angels. An animal – physical body, but no spiritual life. An angel – spiritual life, but no physical body. God didn’t not create us angels, nor did he create us animals… Human beings are unique in creation – fully physical and fully spiritual…two distinct realms brought together in humans. So what does that mean for sex?
Theological Considerations:
- Who am I?
- Beloved by God in brokenness/I am a guest at Jesus’ table
- Log and Speck - I am deeply broken, too
- What community am I a part of?
- I am part of a community that is called to offer hospitality to the outcasts and marginalized - FORSAKING ALL OLD CREATION DYNAMICS
- I am part of a community has done real harm to LGBTQ+ people - they are wounded deeply and set up in the worst possible state to figure this out (rejected by family and church)
- I am part of a community that regularly fails to to include single, divorced, and gay people.
- I am part of a community that is focused on sexuality disproportionately relative to it’s emphasis in the scriptures
- I am part of a community that has lost any authority to instruct others on sexual matters
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414 - Three Men & a Barbie - with Dr. Timothy Gombis (SPOILERS)
Three Men & a Barbie. CONTENT WARNING: There is talk of rape culture and suicide. ANNND, SPOLIERS FOR BARBIE!! Today, Mike and Tim welcome the other Tim (Freakin Gombis) to discuss the new film 'Barbie,' by revisiting the conversation "God is Not in Control" (episode 239). What is the controversy about? Is the film too feminist or not feminist enough? What are folks like Ben Shapiro so triggered by? How does our need for God to be 'in control,' shape the narrative of 'control' in this time? How do we manifest 'control' in God's name? How does Oppenheimer fit in? Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds... We also read a listener email dealing with suicide. What is the correct posture and response when we were mostly raised to understand suicide as the 'unforgivable sin?' Gloria's speech from Barbie: HERE As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Always feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.
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413 - Revelation Part Thirteen: Poverty & Riches
Revelation Part Thirteen: Poverty & Riches. Some sound issues today as Mike's mic decided to defect... “To the angel of the church in Smyrna write..." This episode we continue our decent into Revelation. Laodicea was an affluent city, located strategically at the intersection of three major trade routes. The city quickly became a banking and trading center, known especially for its woolen carpets and clothing. Also in Laodicea was one of the ancient world’s most prominent medical schools, especially famous for its eye and ear treatments.
Scholars have found cultural allusions in this message not only to Laodicea’s wealth but also to the local production of eye salve, the use of black wool, and especially the city’s lack of a good water supply. How does that fit metaphorically? How does Las Vegas fit in? What does the "lukewarm, I'll spit you out" reference have to do with it? There are so many cultural references... where do we fit in? John recognized that the acceptance of Rome’s mythology was an act of giving worship to evil masquerading as divine authority.
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412 - Revelation Part Twelve: America the Beautiful?
America the Beautiful? Today, Mike and Tim fight off a Seth and Mazzy interruption to discuss how the model of ‘Christian Nationalism’ is nothing new. Rome built a civic religion that John rebuked... What exactly does a civic religion look like in this case? How has America followed Rome? What parts of civic life have we ordained? Solemn devotion and allegiance? Blessing of the State? What lens does John offer us to examine? Is it unpatriotic to critique America? How do we as Christians exercise a healthy patriotism while advocating for the Kingdom of God? Has Christianity, as the dominant American religion, been co opted in service to the sacralization of power? How do we take the narrative back?!?!? How do we participate, even with pride, and resist the baptizing of American ritual? How did self preservation become a Christian trait when we follow a sacrificial God?
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411 - Revelation Part Eleven: Letter to Pergamum
Letter to Pergamum. This episode, we continue in Revelation and look at a specific letter to Pergamum. What was Satan’s throne? What is the insinuation? What was the temple to Roma? What was the deal with the ‘other’ gods? Balaam? Mouth sword?? Hidden manna??? Who was Jezebel and how did she play into this? How did we mess up Jesus already having blood on His robes? The lamb who has won the battle by being martyred… How did we turn this into a book of war and conquering?
Mike and Tim also recap the 4th of July as well as what therapy looks like for each of them, currently
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410 - Gospel & Gombis: Part Four
Gospel & Gombis: Part Four. Powers and Principalities. Other spiritual entities as players on the field. Heyo! Nuff said!
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409 - Revelation Part Ten: Letter to Ephesus
Letter to Ephesus. This episode, we continue in Revelation and look at a specific letter to Ephesus. What was the context of this letter? What was it speaking to? How was it to be understood then and now?
We also spend time discussing the use of AI in in sermons? Is a AI generated invitation to salvation just as good as a human one? Can someone be "saved" by AI? Is that even the right question?
We also discuss women as Elders as Mike share a few Tweets he came across.
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408 - Revelation Part Nine: Empire vs. The Upside Down Kingdom
Revelation Part Nine: Empire vs. The Upside Down Kingdom. This episode, Mike brings us the last context on the seven churches written to in Revelation. What did the first century church already understand that we don't? What is the warning here? How does this set the stage for the rest of the book? Mike and Tim also spend a lengthy amount of time discussing Rick Warren, his changed stance on women in ministry and the SBC reaction.
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407 - Dangerous Jesus - with Kevin "KB" Burgess
Dangerous Jesus. This episode, Mike and Tim are joined by acclaimed musician and now author, Kevin "KB" Burgess, to discuss his new book, "Dangerous Jesus: Why the Only Thing More Risky Than Getting Jesus Right is Getting Jesus Wrong." KB talks about his upbringing and his music. What prompted him to right this book? How does Frederick Douglass fit in? What set KB on his Journey? What role does hip hop play in his early story and what does it play now? What makes Jesus 'dangerous?' What role does art play in delivering the Gospel amongst other messages? KB is so thoughtful and talented and is a wonderful new friend of the podcast.
KB's new book and music can be found here: whoiskb.com
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