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Wait, What? Politics with Zuma and Steele

Wait, What? Politics with Zuma and Steele

By Victoria Steele and Jimmy Zuma
Progressive Senator Victoria Steele (D, AZ) and DC-based journalist Jimmy Zuma bring you the most interesting stories in politics and interview the newsmakers who make it happen. Wait, What? is the easiest way to become the smartest person at the table.
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Wait, What? Politics with Zuma and Steele

IT'S OVER! And it's over...
We celebrate the end of Trump's attempt to postpone the inauguration with phony court challenges.  And Victoria Steele says goodbye to WaitWhat Media. Happy to sad in 34 minutes.
December 17, 2020
Their dictatorship slips away...
Around the country, authoritarians masquerading as conservatives are coming unglued. After years of trying to create a white dictatorship, they are facing the realization that democracy survived. We'll take you from the Supreme Court to the state houses to chronicle the mass hysteria now infecting Republicans.
December 11, 2020
Women on top, in the Biden Administration
So far, Joe Biden's appointments and nominations have been heavy on women, a positive development both for women and for governance. We fill you in on some of the stars and talk about their stories and accomplishments. Then we discuss why Republicans and Sanders Progressives might be off the mark in their criticisms. Lastly we talk about the young woman from Vanderbilt who is kicking misogyny to the sidelines!
December 5, 2020
Preparing for this winter's Covid explosion
Dr. Terry Jodrie MD, FACEP, NRP joins us for a full and explicit conversation on the current state of the Covid 19 Pandemic, the bad days ahead, and how you can do your part to help. Jodrie is an internationally recognized expert in emergency medicine who has treated pandemic patients all over the world. He's also a professor of emergency medicine at George Washington University and one of our most popular guests.
November 26, 2020
Racism inside the National Organization for Women?
Host Victoria Steele is a board member of the National Organization for Women. She's joined by another board member, Nevada NOW president Jeri Burton, as they detail emerging information about employee complaints and resignations, and a minority of board members—all white—who'd rather just sweep it under the rug.
November 26, 2020
Georgia: Center of the political universe!
All eyes are on Georgia and the runoffs that will determine Senate control. Then we recognize the stellar leadership of the Diné (Navajo People) in both voting for Democrats and fighting coronavirus.
November 19, 2020
The coming wave of big, positive changes!
Are you having mixed feelings about the 2020 election? Big improvements are still coming and lots of them. We found a whole show of things to be thrilled about. Maybe you arrived with a pit in your stomach. But we guarantee it: you will leave with a smile on your face!
November 12, 2020
Are you ready to win?
We take a look at things you can do to seal a Biden-Harris win on November 3rd. Republicans are aiming to lie, cheat, and suppress your vote. Learn what they are up to and what you can you do in this final week to: vote, help others to vote, and make sure your polling place is a safe space for democracy. And, above all, to make sure your vote gets counted. So are you ready to win?
October 29, 2020
Trump's last debate!
Here's our commentary from the last presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump (earlier tonight.) Learn about the blow by blow action, who won and why we think so. And we'll explain what it means for the presidential race.
October 23, 2020
You're voting, and already democracy is winning!
Democratic voters are casting absentee and early voting ballots in droves. We tell you how to deal with voter intimidation tactics on election day and how you can help others. Then we take a look at new research on authoritarianism among Trump voters and why racism is a big part of it. Lastly we explore whether Attorney General Bill Barr is deliberately distancing himself from Trump. And, you're going to love those incredible polls! Don't forget: When democrats vote, democrats win! Sponsored by our friends at Economic and Human Development Research Associates.
October 15, 2020
Republicans blow a couple of key debates
We cover the debates you couldn't bring yourself to watch. In the first matchup, the critical Senate race in Arizona. We're calling this one Kelly and the Troll. Second up, the single vice presidential debate. Let's just call that one Kamala and the Mansplainer.  Highlights, low lights, sidelights and Miller Lites. Losing in the polls—bigly—Both Senator McSally and Vice President Pence fail to clear the bar. Sponsored by our good friends at Economic and Human Development Research Associates.
October 9, 2020
Misogyny in the Alt Right with Mark Potok
In the second part of our interview with Mark Potok, we discuss misogyny in right wing hate groups. You know them from their hate of everyone who isn't white but did you know they also believe in things like "corrective rape" and subjugation of women? We walk you through the right-wing "manosphere." Sponsored by Economic and Human Development Research Associates.
October 1, 2020
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, looking back, leaning forward
We share our personal thoughts and remembrances about RBG, highlights from her civil rights and Supreme Court careers, and our idea about how to fix the court so it can never be partisan again. Sponsored by our fondest, proudest, and most meaningful memories.
September 24, 2020
The Nazification of the Radical Right, with Mark Potok
Internationally recognized expert on the radical right, Mark Potok joins us. The fringe right is in another period of ascendency, probably bigger than it has ever been. But something is different this time. Philosophies like "Christian Identity are part and parcel of the rise. That's a fancy name for hating (and blaming) Jews. Find out how these fringe ideologies are infiltrating the radical right and what it means for us in this election year.  Mark has been interviewed thousands of times for TV, Radio and Print. You'll recognize him from his work at Southern Policy Law Center. His website is  This episode is sponsored by Economic and Human Dimensions Research Associates
September 17, 2020
Covid Lies and Campaign Crimes
Bob Woodward's new book, Rage, recounts his conversations with Donald Trump which he taped. We fill you in on what's in the book and play some highlights that reveal Trump knew he's been lying about Covid-19 as early as February. Then, why is the Trump campaign short of cash and where did it go? And who got the 25% paid to a mysterious LLC?
September 10, 2020
The links between antifa, the boogaloo boys, QAnon and a**holes.
One of these things is not like the others. but like links in a chain, each has something in common with another one. We explain who they are, what they are, and why it matters. Then we break down post-convention polling. Who gained, who lost, and how will it affect the electoral college?
September 4, 2020
Convention, Confusion and Clapback!
The Republican Convention was a cacophony of lying, deception and taking credit for what Obama did. Jimmy watched all four nights just to bring you what he's calling "highlights from lowlifes." Then we take a look at the people's continuing fight for racial justice and who's doing the murdering in and around protests. TL;DR It isn't the protesters.
August 29, 2020
Dems Pandemic Convention is the new Gold Standard
Over one week, Democrats redefined the party convention forever, and set a standard that has Republicans racing to catch up! Victoria and Jimmy discuss the highlights and why they matter so, so much. Sponsored by the Anchor Network.
August 22, 2020
It's Kamala time!
Kamala Harris is Joe Biden's pick for Vice President. Find out more about her including: some of her progressive victories, highlight moments, and the reaction to her selection as our likely next Vice President. You probably already know it is big news. Find out why...
August 14, 2020
The joy of follow up questions, the magic of TikTok, and lessons from the latest primaries
In an interview on Axios, Trump wilts under the follow up questions you've been waiting for. Our highlight lollers. Then, what's Trump's obsession with TikTok? We know. And lastly, what do the latest primaries tell us about the state of the race.
August 6, 2020
Inside New York's Covid-19 emergency rooms
GW Professor and ER Doc Terry Jodrie served in New York during the height of their pandemic. In an exclusive sit down, he joins us to tell the inside story. It's a poignant lesson for ERs nationwide and a critical prescription for communities everywhere.
July 30, 2020
Goons in Portland: Is your city next?
Protesters in Portland are experiencing how the Border Patrol treats refugees. And Trump has promised to deploy them in our greatest cities. Is this the latest attempt to turn the USA into a dictatorship?
July 23, 2020
Back pats and political pet peeves
Wait, What? is one year old! To celebrate, we spend 5:45 reminiscing . Then we get down to business with a discussion of our most annoying political pet peeves.
July 17, 2020
Biden's brilliance, PsyOps from Lincoln Project, SCOTUS screws you, and Trump's an idiot
We run down what Biden has been up to and why it is getting big results. The SCOTUS writes another ruling that makes employees chattle of their employers. The we laugh along with the Lincoln Project as the rattle Trump, once again. Lastly our commentary on the idiotic plan Trump thinks will win him reelection.
July 10, 2020
DOJ cheats, Trump's do over, and more happy polls!
Two new DOJ whistleblowers detail lying to get favorable sentencing for Trump cronies and fake investigations of others. Trump holds another extinction event in Phoenix, and the room was full—of children. And Biden's poll numbers top a new milestone.
June 25, 2020
Covid-19 surges in the South, Trump holds an extinction event, militia's attack and we check the polls
A rare Covid-19 show:  Coronavirus surges in Trump Country asTrump starts holding extinction events,  Militia's begin attacking Black Lives Matter protesters. And the polling is starting to look like Trump's personal extinction event.
June 19, 2020
They came to stop police murder and ended up saving democracy!
Massive marches against police murder, police rioting, an attempted coup attempt, and Trump's retreat into his own Green Zone. We weave this all together and explain how each of these stories intersect.
June 10, 2020
In Trump's world, he beats you
In a rollercoaster week, Police rioted after most of the public wants to take away their license to kill. Then Trump tried to effect his hostile takeover of the US. In the end, Trump failed and Protesters won. We walk you through it all with exclusive details. And that's not BS.
June 5, 2020
Racists fired, Trump Ignored
100,000 Covid-19 deaths is a grim milestone. On the up side, racists are feeling instant justice, and the whole world seems to be ignoring Trump.
May 28, 2020
Sidelining IGs to embezzle tax dollars?
Is Trump sidelining IGs in an attempt to embezzle two trillion dollars, or more. And Arizona is screaming ONE TERM! to both McSally and Trump. Updates from the newly important purple state.
May 21, 2020
Black imprisonment declines and a Fauci rape con is revealed
Federal incarceration rates for black people are declining. A new stimulus bill benefits ordinary people. A Fauci rape accusation falls apart. And we check the polls.
May 14, 2020
How Trump is stealing and the Biden accusation
Two new whistleblowers allege Donald Trump and Jared Kushner are stealing your tax dollars. Some of the named beneficiaries are well known media personalities and Trump supporters. Then we'll look at the Biden allegation and what it means for the Me Too Movement and Democratic Politics.
May 8, 2020
Catch up on the race for President
The campaigns are adapting to a new normal. We run down how campaigning is being done in the pandemic, check the polls (it's all good news!) and discuss VP prospects.  Lastly, we catch up on Victoria's senate race and her prospects for becoming Joe Biden's VP.
May 1, 2020
Earth Day turns 50
Earth Day is fifty years old. We'll tell you a little about it's origins and what's going on today. Then, we interview Skip Laitner, a research economist who shows countries and companies how to save money by saving the planet. Find out what you can do! Sponsored by GLOWB, Join the Billion Bulb Challenge at
April 22, 2020
Now it's on you, Democrats!
With powerful endorsements from Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama, the stage is set for a Joe Biden win in November. The only things standing in the way are pandemic, voter suppression and every dirty trick in the Republican playbook. Oh, and the Russians too, but we'll save that for another day.
April 22, 2020
The creepy men of creeping Fascism
Our guest is Jason Stanley, Yale Professor and expert in authoritarianism, fascism, mass incarceration, freedom of speech, and other issues. Fascism is on the march around the world and even in the US. Hungary was the latest domino to fall. And Trump's former aide was in on it. This is an unbelievable story. But it's one you need to know and one that will explain a lot of things we're seeing in US America. Jason's latest book is "How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them."
April 5, 2020
All politics, no pandemic
Take a break from Covid-19. What will Sanders do? What are the experts who count the Electoral College saying? And everyone needs a personal plan for saving democracy. What's yours?
March 27, 2020
And then there was Biden
Joe Biden has effectively won the nomination. We'll tell you why and look at Bernie Sanders' options going forward. Then we'll explain why bailouts need to be done differently this time around. Lastly, Victoria will share what's going on about Coronavirus in Arizona and we'll talk about a special group of constables--from her district--who are leading the fight to prevent evictions during the pandemic.
March 19, 2020
Last man standing?
It's another game changing week in the primaries. We'll explain what happened on Super Tuesday 2 and what it means for the race. We'll look at how coronavirus is changing politics  how it might affect the primary and the general elections. The Victoria explains why Elizabeth Warren can't be VP. 
March 12, 2020
The comeback no one saw coming
Ten days ago Joe Biden was a dead man walking. His campaign was broke and operations were paused because of it. He couldn't fund his campaign in Super Tuesday states and didn't even have offices in two. Then a series of events transformed his campaign and by the end he had become Rocketman. Here's the inside story about how Biden's campaign went from No-mentom to Joe-mentom in 8 days.
March 5, 2020
Rapists aren't "fathers"
Today's expert chairs the NOW Committee on Violence Against Women and she's a nationally recognized expert in the topic. OK, it's Victoria. We'll bring you up to speed on what's needed to prevent a rapist from receiving parental rights and how many states haven't passed this important protection for rape victims and their children (born of rape.) Then Victoria drops some bombshells from the national news story she's involved in, about legislation to protect women and children from rapists. Truths will be told and you'll get mad! And sad. And that's just how politics should work.
February 27, 2020
Guide for Saving Democracy
No matter how you feel, we're actually winning. First we provide all the information you'll need to lighten your mood. Maybe you'll get fired up. If you do, we'll share how you can defeat creeping authoritarianism and the creep creeps who want to end democracy.
February 20, 2020
Wraps and Rants
Join us to catch up on the end and aftermath of the impeachment trial. Then we'll dump on Iowa and tell you what happened and why it doesn't matter. We"ll bring you up to date on the candidates and the primary. And don't miss Victoria's epic rant about what women want in candidate!
February 7, 2020
The Impeachment Trial
Halfway through the trial of Donald Trump in the Senate, we analyze the events so far, the impact of the Bolton revelations and the effect the trial is having on Democratic Candidates right before the Iowa Caucus.
January 28, 2020
Iran tweets, Trump retreats
With one tweet, Iran single-handedly prevented war with the United States. Unbelievable, you say? We explain it. In other big stories, the Impeachment is moving to the Senate next week, find out what's going to happen. And we provide updates and analysis on the Democratic Primary, the next debate and the state of the race.
January 12, 2020
It's a wrap!
We share our thoughts on Debate 5 and spend a few minutes waxing nostalgic about the end of Season 1 of Wait, What?. And we'll give your our top five countdown of our top episodes.
December 29, 2019
The moment we've been waiting for has arrived. We go in depth about what happened on Impeachment Day, what's happening next and what it means for the coming election.
December 20, 2019
Propaganda Minister Bill Barr
His title might be Attorney General but William Barr is acting as Trump's Minister of Propaganda. In his interview with NBC, he uses several propaganda techniques pioneered by Nazi Propaganda Joseph Goebbels. That's not a comparison, but it is a comparison of techniques. Jimmy breaks down the interview and reveals Barr's impeachable misconduct.
December 12, 2019
Primary shrinkage, Impeachment next, and Trump dodders into Nato
While Trump is off trying to screw up Europe, the Democratic field is shrinking and Impeachment is moving forward. Who is out of the race and who is trending? With Impeachment moving to the Judiciary Committee, what's that mean and what's next? And Victoria and Jimmy offer predictions for how badly Trump will screw up at the London summit.
December 3, 2019
Impeachment, elections, mobsters, and cons
Victoria and Jimmy catch you up on the impeachment hearings and play the three damning quotes you probably haven't heard. Then they discuss the state of the race for president, who's up, who's down, who's out and who ought to be. Next, J&V cover Rudy, Igor, Natasha and the Trump Putin mobs. And winding up, the international press picks up our Naftogaz Conspiracy bombshell from last week!
November 26, 2019
The Trump-Russia Gas Conspiracy
When Volodymyr Zelensky was elected Ukraine's President (on a reform platform) it undercut a plan by the Trump and Russia mobs to gain control of the Ukraine state gas company, Naftogaz. Trump's Ukraine meddling is part of this larger effort and—beyond rigging his reelection— it aims to depose Ukraine reformers in the new Ukraine government, the US government, and Naftogaz. The goal: to control Ukraine's state natural gas company and bleed it, like Putin did in the past. Connecting the dots between the Trump scandal and the Guiliani-Furman-Parnev investigation (by DOJ-SDNY) blew our minds. Bring some popcorn... This episode is sponsored by Economic and Human Development Research Associates. Visit them at
November 20, 2019
Impeachment Hearings Part One
In Part 1 of our Impeachment Hearings Coverage, we explain how testimony blew the lid off the Trump conspiracy, why Republican Congresspersons are finding it hard to defend Trump, and how one little-known Congressman sent GOP Grand Inquisitor Jim Jordan to the Epic Fail Zone. Oh, and Devin Nunes looked like a fool again.
November 14, 2019
Pelosi makes Trump run scared!
The circle is tightening around Trump (and Guiliani, Pompeo and Sonderland.) Here's the lowdown on the witnesses, the House vote to make phase two public, and the absolutely idiotic move Trump made in response. This episode is sponsored by Economic and Human Dimensions Research Associates. Visit them at
November 1, 2019
Quit whining, we're winning!
Worried about impeachment? Torn about electability? Having nightmares about a Trump second term? Victoria and Jimmy tell you why nothing bad is going to happen. 
October 24, 2019
The Department of Trump—conspirators revealed, Debate 4 wrap-up, and an exciting impeachment update!
Another week, another whirlwind. Half of the conspirators in what Jimmy calls "The Department of Trump" were arrested this week. We had another wide-stage debate and we offer up winners and losers. And lastly, Impeachment had a big and busy week. Whew! What a week! This episode is sponsored by Economic and Human Dimensions Research Associates. Visit them at
October 17, 2019
While Trump lets our allies be slaughtered, Is Pence running a backdoor operation to replace him?
Thanks to Trump, our best allies in the Middle East are facing genocide, and their ISIS prisoners are escaping. At the same time Jimmy thinks Mike Pence is running a back channel game to replace him. We honor the Kurds and explain why—and how—Pence might be backstabbing him.
October 14, 2019
ZOP1 New poll is bad news for Trump... Really bad!
The ZOP—Three minutes, one topic, everything you need to know... A new Washington Post-Schar College poll shows the electorate is turning on Trump. That includes Independents and even many Republicans. Jimmy Zuma catches you up on the data, and what it means.
October 9, 2019
E16 Trump implodes, Warren explodes!
With Trump sinking into mania it's easy to forget there's a primary going on. But you shouldn't miss the fast-rising Elizabeth Warren. We recap the news you would have heard if Trump wasn't busy trying to get impeached.
October 4, 2019
E15 The Impeachment Landslide
Impeachment has (finally) begun! We detail the behind-the-scenes action that led Democrats to begin impeachment and led the Republicans to reconsider their lock-step support for a now toxic Donald Trump. Find out how seven freshman house Democrats (and not the ones you're thinking of) gave Nancy Pelosi the push she needed to get onboard the Impeachment Express.
September 27, 2019
E14 The Gathering Impeachment Storm
The Trump attempt to get Ukraine to assist in his reelection is a big—but complicated—story. We break down the important facts on a timeline, revealing what happened, why it matters, Trump's real motivation (widely misreported) and the smoking gun you probably haven't heard of. Then we send a message to Nancy Pelosi...
September 23, 2019
E13 Creepy Kavanaugh, Bold Beto and Burning Oilfields
We analyze: - another episode in the Creepy Kavanaugh show, - how Beto O'Rourke leads the democratic nominees in bravery about guns, - and what's really behind the Saudi oil field bombings(It's probably not what you think.)
September 17, 2019
E12 Debate 3: Some lived, some died, one looked like he might
Ten candidates squared off in Debate 3. Afterwards, not all were standing. Find out who will be trending up, who will be falling down, and who got laughed out of the room.  Plus, uh, Sanders...
September 13, 2019
E11 Debate Three: Who to watch, what to look for and who to ignore
Democratic Debate 3 is upon us. Here's your debate prep. We review who's leading, who's losing and what to watch for. Finally, we're getting down to deciding who'll be the next President. The front runners will square off and the second and third tier will be looking to make a moment. Not everything matters, so be sure you know what does...
September 9, 2019
E10 Women on Top—Men on Twitter
There are 535 seats in Congress and more than 500 women are running for them. All around the nation, women are storming the ramparts of this male bastion, and taking no prisoners. In this episode, we break down how the new bravery is feminine, and how the old brave wasn't really all that brave anyway. 2020 Election,Women candidates,Steele,Zuma,Politics
September 1, 2019
E9 Democratic losers: Go home already! And in other news...
The Democratic Primary remains an oozing mass of also-rans, cabinet-post seekers and huh? candidates. We tell most of them to go home. And we catch up on current events and update our Epstein and Barr story. Democratic Primary,Epstein,Bill Barr,Steve King,Jimmy Zuma,Victoria Steele
August 23, 2019
E8 Mass Shooters are Women Haters
The relationship between domestic abusers and mass shooters is clear. Nobody starts out a mass shooter, they start down a path that invariably includes beating wives, girlfriends or mothers. Misogyny is almost always a part of their mix. mass shooting, domestic violence, politics, Victoria Steele, Jimmy Zuma
August 12, 2019
E7 FOX bleats, Trump tweets
Trump TV? What if FOXNews is not Trump's channel? What if Donald Trump is FOXNews' President. We lay out a case that an empty headed Trump relies on a doofus version of the President's Daily Briefing--laying in bed and watching FOX and Friends. Then we'll tell you what you can do about it. Trump, President's Daily Briefing, Zuma, Steele, tweets, agenda
August 7, 2019
E6 The CNN Democratic Debates: Warren Shines, Biden holds on, and Victoria wants to call the cops on
We debate the CNN debates, providing you with winners and losers (and losers who ought to go home) as well as the high points and the low points. Did we mention that Victoria has a bone to pick with CNN? Plus another outtake
August 2, 2019
E5 Mueller hearings, impeachment and you
Trump's guilty. The Mueller Report reveals illegal activity, Russian interference in our 2016 election and every element of conspiracy except a contract. Nobody read it. So Mueller went to Congress but, well, he wasn't the best explainer.  Now that Bob Mueller has come and gone at the Capitol, it's up to you to save democracy.  Victoria Steele and Jimmy Zuma explain how you can and what you can do, starting tomorrow.
July 27, 2019
E4 Victoria talks with Linda Berg, political director of NOW
Victoria talks with Linda Berg, Political Director for NOW, about the 2020 election and the women's agenda. In a short but wide ranging interview, Victoria Steele talks with Linda Berg, the Political Director for NOW. Learn who NOW has already endorsed and who they like, get the rundown on the feminist agenda, learn about the women candidates NOW wants to stay in the primary and the surprising reason why they want some men to drop out.
July 23, 2019
E3 Victoria joins the Board of NOW, travels to Minneapolis and finds her peeps
What's it like to be a new board member at NOW, What's going on at the national conference and how many superstars did Victoria meet? And how do you win that FEMINIST AF t-shirt? As a newly appointed board member at the National Organization for Women, Victoria traveled to Minneapolis to attend her first board meeting. Along the way, she met the women (and men!) who are setting women's political agendas, planning the strategy and, well, having a ton of fun. WW? offers a free FEMINIST AF t-shirt (just like Jimmy's) to one politically involved listener. politics,liberal,progressive,NOW,Victoria Steele,Jimmy Zuma,FEMINIST AF
July 20, 2019
E2 Alex Acosta, Jeffrey Epstein and the creepy rich men of Palm Beach and Manhattan
Alex Acosta, Trump's secretary of labor resigned last week. His forced resignation isn't the end of the story, it's just the middle. This sordid tale begins in the late 1970's and includes Attorney General Bill Barr, Barr's father, serial child molester Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and the rich guy's clubs in Palm Beach and Manhattan. Once you know the whole, creepy story, you might find it unbelievable. But it'll be a story that you want to tell on social media and to your family and friends. Your hosts at WW?, progressive Senator Victoria Steele and liberal journalist Jimmy Zuma, lay it all out—the creepy, the ugly and the even uglier.
July 15, 2019
E1 Teaser about Wait, What? Politics with Zuma and Steele
Your introduction to the hosts of Wait, What? Politics with Zuma and Steele. Meet progressive Senator Victoria Steele and liberal journalist Jimmy Zuma and find out what they have planned for WW?. And learn how the WW? team intends to make you better able to argue your politics on social media, at work, or with your grumpy uncle.
July 15, 2019