Talent Matters Podcast

By Wave

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies and Wave’s Talent Matters podcasts were born during the height of the pandemic, aimed at helping recruiters survive and thrive during turbulent times.

In series 2 Wave CEO Dave Jenkins speaks to a diverse line-up of recruitment faces. Each episode features a different industry professional talking about their experiences in the recruitment space, sharing their insights and offering advice.

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EP04 | Recruitment post Furlough

Talent Matters PodcastOct 04, 2020

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EP218 | The evolution of flexible working and the importance of work-life integration - Dave talks to Juliet Turnbull

Episode 218 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to Founder and CEO of 2to3days, Juliet Turnbull. Juliet was an early champion of flexible working and the impact it can have on women’s ability to integrate work and home life when she founded 2to3days 8 years ago. It has since become the UK’s leading female-focused careers site and job board, connecting talented women with flexible career opportunities. She is incredibly passionate about normalising flexible working so that women can reach their full potential and companies can find and hire under-represented talent. That is what the conversation centres on and it is packed full of insights and advice on how recruiters can help drive the change and why it is hugely beneficial from both a societal and a business perspective.

Juliet set up 2to3days 8 years ago to challenge the traditional recruitment model when she realised millions of women were desperate to work flexibly so that they can progress their careers while being actively present in their home lives. She resolved to create the UK’s first female-focused recruitment marketplace, where employers can find and hire the experienced female talent they need, and women can get support and inspiration to apply for those jobs. She firmly believes that flexible working enables us all to integrate work with our lives, enabling us to reach our full potential while becoming happier, more productive and more loyal employees – all of which is great news for business.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and RecWebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Jun 27, 202340:11

EP217 | Performance models and the future of job board advertising - Dave talks to… Simon Wingate

Episode 217 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to the Managing Director of Reed.co.uk , Simon Wingate. With over 2 decades of recruitment media experience at market leading businesses, there isn’t anything Simon doesn’t know about job board strategies from both a candidate and a recruitment business or direct employer perspective. That’s where the conversation centres, with a focus on the rise and rise of performance advertising models and where the market is heading.

Simon has spent the past 12.5 years at Reed.co.uk, one of the UK's leading jobs and careers sites, and took the helm as MD 2 years ago. He has worked in the recruitment media sphere for over 20 years and in that time has seen the evolution of the job boards, the recruitment industry and candidate behaviours first-hand.

Jun 13, 202333:11

EP216 | Current labour market challenges and how to differentiate your agency from competitors - Dave talks to Kevin Green

Episode 216 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to industry legend, Kevin Green. As a verified expert on the UK labour market and having worn many hats in the recruitment, HR and direct employer spheres, there is none more qualified than Kevin to discuss the state of the economy and the labour market in the UK, plus what recruitment agencies can do to add value to their offering and compete in a tight market.

Currently, Chief People Officer at First Bus, as well as Chairperson of Timewise, Strategic Advisor at FRS Recruitment, Founder and CEO of What’s Next Consultancy and Non-Executive at business transformation company Gobeyond Partners, Kevin is incredibly active in the industry. His time as CEO of the REC gave him incredible insight into the entire recruitment industry, and his many roles as strategic advisor and NED are testament to the authority his advice and thought leadership has in the sector.

May 16, 202328:49

EP215 | The evolution of D&I in recruitment and how to start your D&I journey - Dave talks to Cynthia Davis and Tobi Olowu

Episode 215 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to pioneering D&I expert Cynthia Davis, CEO & Founder of Diversifying Group. Also lending her expert advice on the topic of D&I and how recruitment agencies can begin their D&I journey is Tobi Olowu, Account Executive at Diversifying. It’s an incredibly insightful and inspirational chat focusing on the evolution of D&I in recruitment, the vital importance of attracting diverse candidates, how recruiters and employers can action D&I in both the recruitment process and within company culture, and what resources there are to help recruiters with this journey.

Cynthia has worked in recruitment for 22 years, founding D&I services organisation Diversifying Group in 2015 with the mission and vision of ensuring everyone has equal access to opportunity. As CEO and Founder of Diversifying Group and Co-Founder of Diversifying Jobs, a collection of job platforms designed to support candidates find jobs with inclusive organisations and for clients and recruitment agencies to connect and engage with wider talent pools, there isn’t anything Cynthia doesn’t know about D&I and its impact on recruitment. Tobi works as an Account Executive at Diversifying, supporting recruitment agencies on evolving their D&I practices and connecting with diverse talent pools.

Feb 21, 202341:26

EP214 | How to build the perfect recruitment technology stack | Dave talks to Richard Harris

Episode 214 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to one of Wave’s newest recruits, Richard Harris. Richard and Dave talk about their mutual love of recruitment technology - how to build a recruitment technology stack that addresses the needs of your business now and in the future, where to start, what to look for, the pros of an integrated solution, and the future of AI in recruitment.

Richard Harris joined Wave as Operations Director in early 2023. Having worked in recruitment and recruitment technology for nearly two decades, Richard knows a thing or two about recruitment technology and streamlining processes. Prior to working at Wave, Richard was an IT recruiter before working at Broadbean and then Cube19 so he is well placed to advise on recruitment technology stacks and the future of tech in recruitment.

Feb 07, 202333:13

EP213 | The evolution of the job board and what you can do to attract candidates now | Dave talks to Lee Biggins

Episode 213 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to CEO and founder of CV-Library, Lee Biggins. It’s a no-nonsense chat about how job boards have evolved over the past 20 years, where they’re headed, the differences between and various merits of duration and programmatic advertising, and how to improve job ad performance.

Lee Biggins first had the idea for CV-Library in 1999 as an online CV database, brought it to market in 2000 and launched a job board on top a few years later. It has weathered recessions and a pandemic, entered the US market in 2014 and now has big ambitions to grow into a global job board. CV-Library holds a database of over 18 million CVs, and Resume-Library is now America’s fastest-growing job board.

Jan 24, 202330:42

EP212 | The evolution of the recruitment industry and how stay on top in a recession | Dave talks to Dee Dee Doke

Episode 12 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to the editor of Recruiter Magazine, Dee Dee Doke. They talk about how the recruitment industry will weather the recession, why a focus on skills is needed, and the importance for recruiters of adding value to their offerings by being total market and sector experts.

As editor of Recruiter Magazine - a leader in delivering independent recruitment industry news and insights - for close to 18 years, Dee Dee Doke is an authority in the recruitment industry. In her role as writer, editor and speaker, Dee Dee is well placed to led her insights on the evolution of the recruitment industry over the past 20 years and what recruiters need to be doing in 2023 not just to survive the recession but to thrive.

Jan 10, 202335:51

EP211 | Building a scaleable, saleable recruitment business | Dave talks to Mike Ames

Episode 11 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to Founder of Flair Business Growth Consultancy, Mike Ames. They talk about building a recruitment business that serves you as the owner, how to scale sustainably, what makes a saleable business, and the steps you should be talking right now to weather the recession.

Mike Ames has grown and sold two multi-million pound recruitment businesses from scratch and set up business growth consultancy Flair in 2004 to use his knowledge and experience to help recruitment business owners achieve more from their businesses.

Dec 13, 202243:26

EP210 | Insights into key candidate motivations | Dave talks to Cara O’Leary

In episode 10 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series, Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talks to Cara O’Leary, Sales Director at LinkedIn. They talk about current candidate motivations, shifting workplace patterns, startling findings from LinkedIn trends reports, and how to view the recession as an opportunity.

Cara O’Leary has spent 22 years in the talent industry, with 16 years working directly in the recruitment and staffing industry as a recruiter, in sales, and as a leader across multiple different brands in recruitment. In 2016 she was approached by LinkedIn and joined as Global Account Director, becoming Sales Director in 2021. As an early adopter on the platform, she has long admired LinkedIn and feels privileged to be a part of its huge growth story.

Nov 30, 202234:52

EP209 | The cornerstones of recruitment marketing | Dave talks to… Rohit Kapoor

In episode 9 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series, Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talks to Rohit Kapoor, Co-founder of Paiger. They talk about the value of marketing in recruitment, the three pillars of recruitment marketing, and why every recruiter is a marketer (they just don’t always realise it!).

Rohit Kapoor has worked in the recruitment industry for 15 years and co-founded Paiger 4.5 years ago after recognising a gap in the market for recruitment marketing automation. Paiger is a marketing platform specifically designed for the recruitment industry to help recruitment businesses increase brand awareness and drive potential clients and candidates back to their website and their eco-system. Paiger has grown exponentially in under 5 years as an increasing number of recruiters begin to fully understand the value of marketing to run and grow a recruitment agency.

Nov 15, 202226:59

EP208 | Programmatic advertising and the evolution of recruitment media | Dave talks to… Ryan Bridgman

Episode 8 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to Ryan Bridgman, Senior Sales Director at Jobrapido. It’s a fascinating chat that takes a deep dive into programmatic media - what it is, the benefits, the limitations, and the evolution of digital recruitment advertising.

Ryan Bridgman worked at Monster for over 13 years before joining Jobrapido as a Senior Sales Director in January 2019. Leading the Sales and Business Operations for the UK, Ireland, North America and Benelux, as well as Jobrapido's Global Programmatic solutions, Ryan works with partners to implement an AI-focused approach to digital recruitment on a pay-for-results basis.

Nov 01, 202242:39

EP207 | Totaljobs price rise, job board strategy & the future of recruitment | Dave talks to... Jon Wilson

Episode 7 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast series sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to Totaljobs CEO, Jon Wilson. It’s an honest discussion about the job board’s infamous price increases and the reasons behind them, as well as the current state of the economy, future predictions and how the jobs market is and will be affected.

Jon Wilson took up the position of CEO of Totaljobs nearly 3 years ago and has strived ever since to increase the ROI for their customers. This has involved some tough decisions but the results are beginning to come to fruition, with customers receiving double or even triple the number of applications per job from a year ago.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Oct 18, 202239:56

EP206 | Insights from a recruitment industry legend | Dave talks to... Richard Essex

Episode 6 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to industry legend and newly appointed Waver, Richard Essex. With decades of accrued industry knowledge and having experienced both sides of the recruitment space - both in recruitment and recruitment technology - Richard is uniquely placed to impart advice. He shares his insights on what’s changed in the industry, how recruitment technology can help, and what recruiters can do in turbulent times to ensure they keep doing deals and placing candidates.

Following decades in both recruitment and recruitment tech - formally a recruiter, he then spent 12 years at Broadbean, before moving to CloudCall and then JOBIQO - Richard Essex joins Wave as Chief Revenue Officer. As Wave experiences huge growth, Richard will help to ensure our products continue to improve and simplify the recruitment process and that our clients receive outstanding service.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Oct 03, 202225:52

EP205 | Advice and insights from a recruitment tech CEO | Dave talks to... Wendy McDougall

Episode 5 of Wave’s Talent Matters podcast sees Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talk to inspirational business leader Wendy McDougall, founder and CEO of Firefish Software. A former recruitment agency owner herself, Wendy gifts listeners with a raft of insights into setting up a business, what recruiters should look for in their tech, what she wished she’d known when first starting out, and so much more.

Wendy McDougall has worked in the recruitment sphere for many years and founded Firefish Software in 2010 in response to the frustrations within the tech in the market. A combined recruitment marketing and CRM software, Firefish is an organically grown SaaS company with 50 employees, customers in 20 countries and an average 30% ARR growth per annum.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Aug 15, 202236:40

EP204 | Advice for recruitment SMEs, from scaling to the future of recruitment | Dave talks to… Paul Sharpe

In episode 4 of Wave’s new Talent Matters podcast, Wave CEO talks to a man that has experienced it all when it comes to recruitment and now uses that breadth of knowledge and experience to advise SME business owners. Paul Sharpe lends his wisdom on scaling, recruiting recruiters, the importance of investing in self-development as a leader, the growing gig economy, consultative recruitment, and so much more.

Having worked in recruitment for 21 years, Paul Sharpe is incredibly passionate about the industry and in particular helping recruitment SMEs flourish and grow. Paul set up Sharper Outcomes earlier in 2022 as a way to support SME recruitment business through coaching sessions, finance reviews, business planning, operational support, and general business advice.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Jul 26, 202249:28

EP203 | Insights into a B Corp and employee-owned recruitment agency | Dave talks to… Nick Dean of ADLIB

In episode 3 of Wave’s new Talent Matters podcast series, Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talks to someone that has sought a different way to run their recruitment agency, to help ensure they’re using business as a force for good. Dave’s chat with Nick Dean centres on B Corp organisations and how that translates in a B2B recruitment business, the benefits of being employee-owned, and musings on the current state of the market.

Nick Dean is Chair at ADLIB Recruitment and Enable, as well as being a B Corp Ambassador. He is passionate about operating recruitment businesses with purpose, that thrive whilst supporting a vision of a supportive, equitable and regenerative economy.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Jul 12, 202231:56

EP202 | Tips on copywriting for recruiters and recruiter branding | Dave talks to… Mitch Sullivan

In episode 2 of Wave’s new Talent Matters podcast series, Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talks to a familiar voice in recruitment marketing, Mitch Sullivan. Their chat centres around recruiter branding, job ads as a crucial marketing function, the dilemma of speed versus quality that all recruiters face, and the importance of curating your own talent pool.

Mitch Sullivan runs a hugely respected training academy, offering courses in copywriting for recruiters, and is the author of the brilliantly acerbic On Recruitment.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Jun 29, 202232:57

EP201 | Tips to improve recruitment & the importance of recruitment events | Dave talks to... Louise Triance from UK Recruiter

In episode 1 of Wave’s new Talent Matters podcast series, Wave CEO Dave Jenkins talks to a leading authority in the recruitment industry, Louise Triance. Their chat centres around finding a USP as a recruiter, the importance of building a community, the return of in-person events, and the positive feel that the industry has right now.

Louise Triance is a recruitment industry connector, owner and founder of UK Recruiter, event specialist, and of course experienced podcast host herself.

Wave attracts talented candidates to recruitment agencies with three products that together form a complete solution for candidate attraction - WaveTrackR (data-powered multi-poster, analytics platform and application management system), WaveMedia (strategic media buying), and Recwebs (professionally designed recruitment websites to showcase your brand).

Jun 16, 202224:57

EP07 | Optimising your job ads to stand out

In Episode 7 of our Talent Matters webinar series, Dave Jenkins is joined by guest Daniel Fellows, CVO of Get-Optimal, where they talk about the importance of job ad optimisation in order to reach diverse talent.

// ABOUT DANIEL FELLOWS

Daniel founded Get-Optimal in order to rescue the humble job ad and propel it to greatness. With a background in both tech and marketing, working for international organisations, most recently Indeed, Daniel recognised a need for software that analyses and optimises job advert copy for SEO, gender bias and diversity.

// ABOUT WAVE

We want to help people to attract the right talent using data and marketing experience – we’ll tell it how it is with no fluff or tomfoolery. We recognise the opportunities in the market but we remain focused on the way to help companies source the talent they need in the fastest, and easiest manner. Creating a world where talent is never missed.

Nov 15, 202052:28

EP06 | Marketing your way through 2020

In episode 6 of our Talent Matters webinars, Dave Jenkins is joined by guest Richard Williams, Global Head of Marketing at Austin Fraser, where they discuss the importance of marketing your recruitment business to stay ahead of the game. When the pandemic took hold and the world stopped, Richard and his team kept going, doubling down on the marketing activity to maintain growth across Austin Fraser’s international operations.

// ABOUT RICHARD WILLIAMS

As Global Head of Marketing for tech recruiters Austin Fraser, Richard is responsible for the marketing function and brand building across the recruitment consultancy’s nine offices in the UK, Germany and the USA.

// ABOUT WAVE

Creating a world where talent is never missed.

Oct 25, 202001:02:16

EP05 | Pivoting your agency to survive and grow through Covid

In the fifth episode in our series of Talent Matters webinars, Dave Jenkins was joined by guest Ashby Jenkins, founder of Ashby Jenkins Recruitment, to talk about the way the team dealt with the challenges of the Covid-19 pandemic and how pivoting their agency was crucial to ensure they didn’t just survive but continued to grow. They also discussed the importance of promoting diversity within recruitment in order to help improve equal opportunities across the sector.

// ABOUT ASHBY JENKINS

Having previously worked as a corporate fundraiser for two charities, Ashby Jenkins has a deep passion for the sector. She moved into recruitment in 2014 and in 2018 founded Ashby Jenkins Recruitment, working exclusively on not-for-profit sector recruitment. The agency specialises in matching all types of fundraisers, innovations specialists and digital marketers with a huge variety of UK-based charity fundraising jobs.

// ABOUT WAVE

Creating a world where talent is never missed.

Oct 18, 202039:29

EP04 | Recruitment post Furlough

On this episode of our Talent Matters Podcast, Dave Jenkins is joined by Kevin Green to discuss 'Recruitment post Furlough'.

Oct 04, 202042:42

EP03 | Jobs, the Recession and the Rise of Startups

On this episode of our Talent Matters Webinar, Dave Jenkins and Tom Mehmet discuss the official news of the UK recession and why recruitment agency startups are key to restart the economy.

Aug 23, 202020:22

EP02 | Talent Attraction in a Post Covid-19 World

In the second episode of our Talent Matters Webinar, Dave Jenkins and Tom Mehmet talk about the strategies recruiters can implement moving forward. What we expect to happen with the job boards, how technology plays a role and is this the turning point for recruiters to start moving more into programmatic and performance-based advertising.

Aug 02, 202054:00

EP01 | Job Board Advertising during and post Covid-19

Wave's first Talent Matters Webinar, hosted by Dave Jenkins and Tom Mehmet, talked about the strategies recruiter should be implementing with their job board contracts.

At a massive 83%, job boards still account for the vast majority of posted jobs, proving that they continue to be the favoured platform for recruiters. With Covid-19 affecting every single aspect of modern daily life and with the recruitment industry almost grinding to a halt, turning your recruitment strategy smarter has become more important than ever.

Jul 12, 202037:19