Whose Song Is It Anyway?
By Hayleigh Bosher
This music podcast gives a unique perspective on copyright in the music industry by talking to music artists, songwriters, musicians and people from the music industry about creativity and copyright. Co-hosted by Dr Hayleigh Bosher (author of Copyright in the Music Industry) and Jules O’Riordan (Entertainment Lawyer and artist known as Judge Jules).
DJ S.K.T (Steve Tempest)
Steve Tempest AKA DJ S.K.T is a DJ, Producer and Label Manager. In this episode we talk about music sampling (of the composition and/or the master), fair deals and arrangements for song splits and joint ownership when creating music. Steve also shares his experience with getting back to live gigs after the pandemic. https://clubsweat.lnk.to/GotYourMoneyFa Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
December 22, 2022
Jane Dyball is a long time music industry executive, working mostly in publishing from Virgin, Warner and ran MCPS Collecting Society. More recently she runs her own consultancy business. Looking back over the historical developments in the music industry during Jane’s career, of which there were many. Jane shares her experience of being on the publishing side of the changes brought into the music industry from ringtones, to downloads and then streaming services as well as the efficiency and structural developments of the collection societies. https://www.laffittesltd.com/ Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
December 15, 2022
Claire Batchelor is a Composer for TV, Documentary, Film and Brands. In this episode we talk about how composers can get paid for their work and Claire talks about her work with the Ivor's Academy on the Composers Against Buyouts campaign. She shares her experience as a composer and figuring out what a fair deal is, and we also discuss rights revocation. https://www.clairebatchelor.co.uk/ https://ivorsacademy.com/campaign/composers-against-buyouts/ https://musiciansunion.org.uk/ Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
December 08, 2022
Will Page is the former Chief Economist at Spotify and PRS, and author of Tarzan Economics. What's important about 285 miliseconds? Will reveals the psychology behind the Spotify Play button, and we discuss the pricing of streaming service subscriptions. https://tarzaneconomics.com/ Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
December 01, 2022
Niclas Molinder is a Swedish songwriter and producer. He founded Session and the Music Rights Awareness Foundation working in collaboration with WIPO to form WIPO for Creators. Niclas explains what the identifiers are - essential information that artists and songwriters need to know about in order to get paid royalties! He tells us all about his company's free app, Session Studio, which helps songwriters and producers with their creative process and includes easy ways to keep track of identifiers, song splits and much more. https://www.sessionstudio.com https://www.wipo.int/wipoforcreators/en/index.html Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'Riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
November 24, 2022
Des Agyekumhene is an artist manager, NFT consultant, and co-founder of Soga world - who did the first NFT project with Neo and assisted Aitch in launching his "NFT album". We talk about NFTs and what opportunities and challenges there are for artists in the NFT space, Des shares his refreshing perspective on these technologies. https://soga.world/ https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/06/ten-things-to-know-about-nfts.html Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'Riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
November 17, 2022
Damien Riehl is a lawyer, musician and technologist. He talks to us about this project All The Music and we discuss the ‘you copied my song’ lawsuits. What should be copyright protected and how would that effect the legal test for copyright infringement claims? And why do these cases keep coming? http://allthemusic.info/ Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'Riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
November 10, 2022
Roxanne de Bastion
Roxanne de Bastion is a singer, songwriter and performer. She sits on the board of the Featured Artist Coalition and the perfomer board at PPL. In this episode Roxanne talks about her experience of making music and building her careeer, sharing the lessons that she learnt along the way. https://roxannedebastion.com/ https://thefac.org/ https://www.ppluk.com/ Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher Co-host: Jules O'riordan Editor: Eliza Kania
November 03, 2022
Kevin Brennan MP
In this episode I chat to Kevin Brennan MP about the DCMS Select Committe Inquiry into the Economics of Music Streaming and his Copyright (Rights and Remuneration of Musicians, Etc.) Bill. We talk about the inquiry, the recommendations made and the Bill, and what all this could mean for songwriters, performers and the future of the music industry. This episode was recorded at an event organised for the British Literary and Artistic Copyright Association (BLACA) together with Bristows on 9th December 2021. Links: DCMS Economics of Streaming Inquiry - https://committees.parliament.uk/work/646/economics-of-music-streaming/ Copyright (Rights and Remuneration of Musicians, Etc.) Bill - https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2901 IPKat Blog - https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/search/label/UK%20Streaming%20Inquiry Dr Hayleigh Bosher - https://www.brunel.ac.uk/people/hayleigh-bosher Kevin Brennan MP - http://www.kevinbrennan.co.uk/ BLACA - http://www.blaca.org/ Bristows - https://www.bristows.com/
December 16, 2021
Jules O'Riordan, Music Lawyer
In this final episode of the series, Jules talks about his career as a DJ and music lawyer and the mentality of being an artist/lawyer. Jules talks about how, as a music lawyer, he helps his clients make commercial decisions, clear rights or negotiate deals, as well as making a positive influence in the broader sense by moving the goal posts of these contracts. Jules gives some advice to budding music lawyers and explains what he thinks is the most common confusion for artists around copyright.
April 05, 2021
Christian Siddell, Musicologist
Musicologist Christian Siddell explains what a musicologist does and how he became one, we also discuss what needs to be added to an out of copyright song in order for it to qualify as a new arrangement and Christian talks about one of the first cases he worked on - about the song Young at Heart recorded by The Bluebells.
March 30, 2021
Tom Kiehl, UK Music
Tom Kiehl is Deputy CEO and Director of Public Affairs at UK Music. In this episode Tom tells us what UK Music is about, how to get involved in the politics of the music industry, explains the practicalities of the process of a public consultation, such as the streaming inquiry, and what happened when UK Music took the government took court in Judicial Review in 2014 over the private copying exception. Lastly Tom talks about the impact of Brexit on copyright in the music industry.
March 22, 2021
Dennis Collopy, Researcher
Dennis Collopy has been in the music industry for 45 years, from his first contract with David Bowie to being an academic now at the University of Hertfordshire. Dennis talks about his research into illegal stream ripping, the data issues in the music industry, tells us the types of problems that artists and performers have with the admin that allows royalties payments. We then discuss artificial intelligence and some of the key issues for copyright and music, including authorship and infringement.
March 15, 2021
Imogen Heap, Artist
Imogen Heap is a singer-songwriter and we can certainly also describe her as an entrepreneur and pioneer! In this episode Imogen talks about what drives her in creativity and innovation, and shares with us her latest endevours with blockchain, artificial intelligence, mycelia and The Creative Passport (www.creativepassport.net).
March 05, 2021
Munya Chanetsa, Sony Publishing
Munya Chanetsa, A&R Manager for Africa at Sony Music Publishing, chats about the music inudstry in the continent of Africa, the importance for artists and performers to understand their rights, and how COVID has provided time for reflection and engagement with rights. Munya also shares how the injustice of Solomon Linda and his song, Mbube, which transformed into the Lion Sleeps Tonight (best known for featuring Disney's The Lion King) motivated him on his mission to educate the music industry and the creation of Mbube2020.
February 22, 2021
David Martin, FAC
David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artist Coalition (FAC), talks about the impact of COVID-19 on artists and the music industry, the difference between licensing or assigning your rights e.g. demonstrated by Bob Dylan who recently sold his catalogue, but then the share of that sale being determined by the wording of the contract with his co-author. Of course, we cover the streaming inquiry, and generally the need for artists to be more informed and entrepreneurial for a successful career. David also tells us his three wishes for the music industry for 2021...
February 15, 2021
Bill Patry, Google
Bill gives a heartfelt account of his career from private practice, law making, professor, to Senior Copyright Counsel at Google, and what most people might not know is that Bill is also a life long musician. He gives us insights into the challanges of law making, we talk about the US test for copyright infringement particularly in the cases of Blurred Lines, Stairway To Heaven. Bill explains why he would do away with expert witnesses in copyright infringement cases and shares the one thing he thinks needs changing in US copyright law…
February 07, 2021
Annabella Coldrick, MMF
Annabella Coldrick, CEO of the Music Managers Forum (MMF) talks about the changing artist manager dynamic, then we hear Annabella’s views on the UK music streaming inquiry, we consider where the line is between radio and streaming, and should we decide it from a technical or experiential perspective? Plus, Annabella talks about the need for better transparency and partnership within the music industry, for example in relation to licensing deals with TikTok and Facebook.
February 01, 2021
Tom Gray, Artist
Tom Gray talks about creativity and originality in song creation, as well as the #BrokenRecord campaign, the current UK streaming inquiry, equitable remuneration, plus why and how musicians and artists can engage in copyright policy.
January 25, 2021
Ali Condon, PRS for Music
Ali Condon, from PRS for Music, explains why copyright is so important for creators, such as songwriters, composers and artists. We talk about originality in music creation, what copyright infringement is and how musicology plays a role in deciding if two songs are substantially similar. Ali shares her experience working with PRS members and engaging in copyright policy, such as the with the EU Copyright Directive.
January 18, 2021
Crispin Hunt, Songwriter
Crispin Hunt shares his songwriting stories from Longpigs to “Army of Lovers,” and more recently working with artists including Ellie Goulding, Florence and the Machine, Jake Bugg and Lana Del Ray. We talk about that fine line between taking inspiration and copyright infringement, as well as Crispin's work at the Ivor’s Academy and how he thinks copyright needs to change to benefit creators.
January 10, 2021