We Need To Be Doing That
By HEARTLENT Group
We Need To Be Doing ThatMar 19, 2024
EP 73: Joe Caporoso
Joe Caporoso is President of Team Whistle, a DAZN Company
We discussed:
- His career trajectory to Whistle
- The state of content and media
- The rise of the athlete podcasters
- Advice for young folks getting into the business
EP 72: Taylor Girard
Taylor Girard is a professional hockey player for PWHL Boston
We discussed:
- How hockey entered her life
- High School Hockey in Michigan
- Ending her college career at Quinnipiac University and how she credits the school with developing her as a hockey player, and what was on her mind figuring out her next steps in her hockey career post-college
- Moving from college to the NWHL / PHF and her first years in the league
- The growth from PHF to PWHL, the Draft and pre-season, and what’s next
EP 71: David Teicher
David Teicher is Chief Content & Community Officer at Brand Innovators. He’s a veteran in the advertising and marketing industry, having worked at AdAge and McCann (back when it was formerly McCann Erickson). Shoutout to Dad Chat!
We discussed:
- The pizza scene in Italy
- His early career and what brought him to Brand Innovators
- What Brand Innovators focus on
- Some tangible results and outcomes from the Brand Innovators work
- Takeaways from Cannes
- The discussion about AI (+ shoutout Mekale Jackson)
- Brands doing well right now
- David’s thoughts on the algorithm
- We discuss what would make a good social platform these days. What is going on with Twitter. We might have pushed Threads to launch earlier. Not saying we did, not saying we didn’t! (We recorded this early afternoon of July 5)
EP 70: Katie Cavender
Katie Cavender is the Assistant Director of Communications and Branding for the College Football Playoff
She owns over a decade of experience in the college sports landscape, including 11 years at the Mountain West Conference. Katie has also spent time at Boise State University and the Pac-10 Conference as part of an incredibly impressive resume.
We talked to her about:
- her origin story and rise to a leadership in college athletics
- the ever changing dynamics in college sports
- the impact of NIL
- how the new expansion of the college football playoff will benefit fans
- her perspective on social/digital content creation for the college football playoff
https://twitter.com/KatieCavender
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EP 69: Erica L Ayala
Erica L Ayala is Founder of Black Rosie Media, an organization with a focus on empowering Black women and melanated people in sports media, who identify, amplify, and support emerging creators in sports media.
Erica is a multimedia sports journalist, and her writing has been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, Sports Illustrated, and more.
She covered her first Winter Olympics in 2022 in Beijing, China.
She is the first Black & Latina broadcaster in the Premier Hockey Federation (and the former National Women’s Hockey League), and she is believed to be the first Black Woman to call an NHL game.
We talked to her about:
- how sports and hockey entered her life
- her role in the sport of hockey specifically
- how hockey as a sport can become more approachable
- what she has done within the Premier Hockey Federation (and formerly the National Women’s Hockey League)
- HOT TAKE: who she thinks will win this year’s PHF Isobel Cup Championship
https://twitter.com/elindsay08
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EP 68: Mark Fine
Mark Fine is CEO of Las Vegas Desert Dogs, a new team in the National Lacrosse League (NLL) and the league’s 15th team
We discuss his career, starting in baseball, to the Harlem Globetrotters, the New York Mets (where he first met Elliot, and did a groundbreaking partnership with Marvel), the Brooklyn Nets, and now to CEO of Las Vegas Lacrosse
The Las Vegas Desert Dogs are co-owned by four investors:
Wayne Gretzky
Steve Nash
Dustin Johnson
Joe Tsai
We discuss what brought Mark to Vegas and specifically working in lacrosse, his views on the sport and the growth of the sport and the NLL
https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfinepr/
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EP 67: Michael King
He is also known as Mic King, the musical artist/rapper.
And he's also a worldwide speaker at global events such as SXSW, MozCon, SMX, Digital Summit, and Inbound.
We discuss how Michael got into the SEO side of the business, how he built his own agency, how he reconciled getting a "day job" and still pursuing his musical career, and his latest album.
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EP 66: Frank Verlizzo
Frank Verlizzo is an American design artist best known for creating the posters for many prominent Broadway productions, including The Lion King.
Frank is a native New Yorker, born in Manhattan and raised in the Bronx. He attended the High School of Art and Design and the Pratt Institute. It was at Pratt that he received his first big break in the theater industry, as his illustration teacher was David Edward Byrd, the man who designed the poster art for the original productions of the musicals Follies and Godspell. Frank worked at The Blaine Thompson Agency, at the time the largest advertising agency for Broadway shows.
We discuss his career, his work and working primarily in Broadway and the theater/arts space, and his book.
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EP 65: Jeff Burchett
Jeff is an experienced creative and marketing leader with a passion for developing high performing teams that contribute meaningfully to the performance and culture of a company.
He has been with Custom Ink for nearly 5-years, and is currently Vice President of Marketing Creative
We discuss his career and role at Custom Ink, and how the company and Jeff navigated COVID
Jeff is also a lifelong musician and audio geek who runs The Cat Mansion, which offers professional mixing and mastering, producer services, custom music production and sound design for games, films, and commercials, and voice over services for a variety of media.
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EP 64: Vada Manager
Founder/CEO of Manager Global Holdings
He’s been in the room in negotiations with Nike, has worked with 2 Arizona Governors and helped Nelson Mandela transition… he has a fascinating career that we dug into in this episode
We met Vada at the Sports PR Summit earlier this year where he received a Lifetime Achievement Award — thanks Brian Berger + team
- Growing up in East St. Louis, Illinois
- College in Arizona State and served 2 AZ Governors
- Went to Washington DC, helped Nelson Mandela transition
- Recruited from Levi’s to Nike, where he worked with Michael Jordan, Mario Lemieux, LeBron James + how he was part of the growth
- The strategic idea to send Michael Jordan to China
- Working with Nelson Mandela in 3 different occasions
- Operating with his mantra “Attitude of Gratitude” and how Vada’s childhood made him who he is today
- Advice to the younger generation getting their career started
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EP 63: Ashley Christopher and Dr. Kimberly Wise White
Jonah talks with Dr. Kimberly Wise White (Vice President, Regulatory & Scientific Affairs, American Chemistry Council) and Ashley Christopher (Founder and CEO of HBCU Week Foundation, Inc.) to discuss HBCU Week
- HBCU Week Foundation's Upcoming events
- Offering scholarships to students on the spot
- HBCU Week's partnership with Disney
- HBCU Ambassador and Winston Salem State University alum Stephen A. Smith
- How other HBCU alumni spread the word
- The importance of culture and opportunity at HBCU's
- Exposing prospective students to STEM occupations
Since its inception in 2017, more than 3,500 students have been admitted into HBCUs with HBCU Week scholarship awards exceeding $50 million.
ABOUT HBCU WEEK FOUNDATION
The mission of the HBCU Week Foundation is to encourage high-school aged youth to enroll into HBCUs, provide scholarship dollars for matriculation and sustain a pipeline for employment from undergraduate school to corporate America. The most impactful event during HBCU Week is the HBCU College Fair. HBCU Week Foundation, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) charitable organization.
https://www.hbcuweek.org
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EP 62: Joe Maglio
We discussed:
- How we know Joe through youth soccer, shoutout Ted Lasso
- Joe grew up in NJ, he works out of the NYC office, and he lives in CT… so we had to ask him, which state makes the best pizza?
- What the “Italian Goodbye” means
- Joe’s non-traditional career path leading up to Ogilvy, Publicis, Havas, and for the last 5-years as CEO of McKinney
- McKinney’s mantra of Smarts and Hearts, what it means, and how we see things similarly with HEARTLENT Group’s Heart + Talent
- How advertising talent at its core are misfits, had non-traditional paths like Joe, didn’t go to ad schools, and how Joe looks at talent
- The cycle in advertising, and how often times getting that more senior role comes with managerial expectations that not everyone is great at and wants, and often times these creatives leave to do their own thing/freelance to get back to the start of doing the work
- How agencies can be set up to make more nimble decisions
- What Joe would tell someone starting out in our industry
- Taking advantage of opportunities, and time with senior leadership when offered
- How Joe has been managing through COVID and what changes will remain at McKinney
www.linkedin.com/in/joemaglio/
mckinney.com/
EP 61: Geo Baker
Geo Baker is a former Guard for Rutgers basketball and huge advocate and early catalyst for NIL (Name Image Likeness)
We discussed:
- Rutgers growth and success while he was playing
- How he became a face of NIL
- What Geo tells high school students on how NIL can impact their college selection decision
- An example of an NIL program Geo was part of
- How NIL can help college sports
- His relationship with Eric LeGrand
- His advice to current college athletes on NIL
- What he's up to now with Eric LeGrand and Knight Society
- An example of an NIL program that stood out to him
https://twitter.com/Geo_Baker_1
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EP 60: Quincy Amarikwa
Quincy Amarikwa is a 13-year Professional Soccer Player and current Free Agent (#SignQuincy), Founder of Black Players For Change (BPC), Co-Founder of Limb Care Foundation (LCF), CEO of Perfect Soccer, and Fund Manager at EvolveNFTs. When not on the soccer field, UC Davis Hall Of Fame member and MLS Cup Champion Amarikwa invests in furthering his philanthropic, educational, and entrepreneurial ventures, serving as a member of the Major League Soccer DE&I Committee. Not only is Quincy the 1st Pro Athlete in the Metaverse, but the US Soccer Federation Licensed Coach Amarikwa’s mission, is to use soccer as a vehicle to create over 1 Billion self-disciplined, self-sufficient, focused, goal-oriented individuals. Through his culture coaching and hosting the #AskASoccerPro Show, Amarikwa has created a new generation of soccerpreneurs.
We discussed:
00:00 - 00:59 - Intro
01:00 - 03:50 - Quick summary of Quincy Amarikwa’s path to the pro leagues
03:51 - 07:02 - Why Quincy Amarikwa went with soccer as his profession
07:04 - 10:37 - Thoughts on the growth of soccer in the U.S.
10:38 - 15:52 - Can we consider athletes as artists?
15:53 - 20:42 - How the connection with fans has evolved over the years
20:43 - 23:01 - Your best introduction to the crypto/NFT world
23:02 - 28:38 - Black Players For Change and their activities and goals
28:39 - 29:45 - Outro
http://quincyamarikwa.com/bio/
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EP 59: Legacy Fantasy Sports
We’re joined by John Latella and Grady Toombs of Legacy Fantasy Sports to talk about their fantasy sports app, co-founded by former Detroit Lion Herman Moore and backed by former University of Oklahoma Head Football Coach Bob Stoops, as well as film producer and Cleveland Cavaliers co-owner Gary Gilbert.
Legacy Fantasy Sports allows users to build rosters with current players alongside past players.
“The sports world is emerging from two years of pandemic shutdowns, game postponements and a lockout that threatened the MLB season -- all impacting the ability of fans to play fantasy sports. We set out to change that. Our pandemic-proof, injury-proof, strike-proof and even retirement-proof game is here for fans to play whenever they want.”
- John Latella
We discussed:
- How it all started
- How it works since it doesn’t require live games to be played
- Most prominent player from years past that users are selecting the most
- How this differs intentionally from gambling, but what could be on the roadmap
- How the connection to Herman Moore happened
- Some of the challenges they faced when starting Legacy Fantasy Sports
- With their Michigan connection, we discuss HBO’s Winning Time
- Their thoughts on the Detroit Lions outlook
- Future innovations for Legacy Fantasy Sports
https://legacyfantasysports.com
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EP 58: Candace Cooper
Candace Cooper graduated from the University of North Carolina where she was the first black female swimmer in the school’s history, and obtained her Masters from Wake Forest. She has worked for 3 professional teams, and has hosted multiple podcasts, several radio shows, and most recently the CIAA Tournament. She’s currently starting a new position at Under Armour.
We discussed:
- Her collegiate career at University of North Carolina, where she was the first black female swimmer at the school, and business school at Wake Forest
- Swimming career starting at 8-years-old and how it was for her to often be the only black girl in the pool, and when she knew she could swim in college and beyond
- Disparity in race on swimming
- College athletics today versus when Candace was in school
- Thoughts on NIL and how Candace’s career would have been different in school had NIL been a thing then with her being the first black female swimmer at UNC
- Individual sports versus team sports, and mental health aspects
- Hosting the CIAA Tournament
- Thoughts on the collegiate conferences and how they have changed over the years
- The Tobacco Road Rivalry for people who haven’t experienced it
- Her current role at Under Armour as Lead Producer on Social Content
https://twitter.com/CandaceDCooper
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EP 57: Amie Kiehn
EP 56: Shiann Darkangelo
We discussed:
- Where women’s hockey is today, and how it has progressed
- How hockey has been a part of her life
- The options she had to play hockey after college and how Premier Hockey Federation has changed the landscape
- Her experience playing in China
- Playing in the Olympics
- The progression of the sport, playing full-time vs supplementing your income
- Premier Hockey Federation changing its name from National Women’s Hockey League
- Shiann’s post-playing aspirations
- Her favorite hockey movie
- Her thoughts on the upcoming PHF Playoffs
twitter.com/shidark27
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EP 55: Mike Camerlengo
We discussed:
- What “60 Second Classics” is and how it started
- How Mike picks the topics of the videos he does
- The one video Mike has done that got the most views / was most popular
- Mike’s deliberate choice of writing
- How ridiculous sports scenes in movies are
- How nostalgia content really plays well
- Working freelance and navigating job to job and pricing things
- Who has reacted to the videos he was most surprised by
www.mikecamerlengo.com
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EP 54: Katie Gardner
EP 53: BettorEdge
We discussed:
- What is BettorEdge and how does it work
- How BettorEdge got started, and how Greg and James met
- How you can take your no-vig fee and put that money to charity through BettorEdge, and how they donated over $10k to Chad Greenway’s Foundation
- What makes them different from traditional sports books
- Live betting, micro betting, user groups, hedge fund-like approach, and what might be on the BettorEdge roadmap
www.bettoredge.com/
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EP 52: Kelsey Trainor
Kelsey Trainor is VP Business Affairs at Gaming Society. She’s also a lot of things — previously she was working on the CBS show Blue Bloods, she’s a big proponent of women’s sports, and she’s also a lawyer!
We discussed:
- How Kelsey’s merchandise line started
- Investment in women’s sports
- How social media has been the greatest equalizer for women’s sports
- What are the next steps in growing women’s sports?
- Kelsey’s background, and what brought her to Gaming Society
- More new voices in sportscasting
- Women’s NIL thoughts
- What Blue Bloods episode we should check out
https://twitter.com/ktrain_11
https://thegamingsociety.com
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EP 51: Paul Guarino
Paul Guarino is Founder of PG Sports. He represents athletes such as Renee Montgomery, Chad Dawson, and Kimbo Slice Jr. He is host of the podcast Average to Savage.
We discussed:
- How his relationship with Renee Montgomery started
- How social media sparked his relationships, and began the work HEARTLENT Group did with Renee Montgomery
- How he treats his clients and how quickly he becomes a friend and family member
- Recording the podcast with Renee Montgomery and her family
- How Paul manages his multiple brands
- How he started PG Sports
- The innovative things Paul and PG Sports have done, such as sponsorships in crypto and NFTs
- Where Paul sees the Web3 space going with respect to sports and sports marketing
- Niche sports Paul is keeping an eye on
- Shifting from managing careers while playing to managing careers post-career
- The importance of growing women’s sports
https://pg-sports.com/
https://twitter.com/PGSports
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EP 50: Keith Hernandez
EPISODE 50!
Keith Hernandez (not the Mets guy!) is Founder and Partner at Launch Angle, and Host of the podcast The Changeup (again, not a baseball reference!). His prior jobs include Bleacher Report, Slate Magazine, and Buzzfeed.
We discussed:
- How often people mistake him for Keith Hernandez of the Mets, but how it works in his favor when making restaurant reservations
- Shift in content creation from his time at Bleacher Report to 2022
- Athletes building their brand away from sports, and did it all begin with LeBron James?
- Considerations for branded content and athletes, what is working and what isn’t
- Thoughts on NIL (Name, Image, Likeness)
- His career arc, how he got an internship and started in the industry
- His firefighter stories… no, really
- What he’s up to now with Launch Angle
https://twitter.com/keithrhernandez
https://www.launchangle.com
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EP 49: Luke Bonner
Luke Bonner is a former professional basketball player and current CEO / Co-Founder of PWRFWD, a company that turns athlete passions and performances into products, and have worked with numerous athletes including Sue Bird, Mo Bamba, and Breanna Stewart
We discussed:
- How PWRFWD began
- The growth of women’s sports, primarily the WNBA, and why Luke has such love for the women’s game
- Celebrating Renee Montgomery and Kelsey Trainor
- Luke’s thoughts on Web 3 and NFTs and what PWRFWD is doing in the space
- Fan responses to athlete merchandise on PWRFWD and how a purchase is directly supporting that specific athlete
- NIL involvement
- How the process works with athletes
- Luke’s experience and playing career overseas
https://pwrfwd.co
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EP 48: Quarter4
Kelly Brooks and Danijela Covic of Quarter4 to discuss sports betting, Artificial Intelligence, the current state and future state of sports betting
- How Quarter4 got started, and how it was directly connected to Toronto Raptors
- The components that go into Quarter4’s decision model which can predict over 2M times a day
- How the human involvement fits into a AI model and using the recent Chargers/Raiders game as an example
- New generations of sports betting engagement such as Player As Stock / Stock Exchange Of Athletes
- eSports implications in sports betting
- Microbetting future
- Live betting and how some books cannot adjust in time to the flow of the game, some taking up to 2-min to move a line
- DYK: ”Tennis covers just over 10% of all bets coming in globally”
- In-arena betting
https://quarter4.io
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EP 47: Gilad Karni
Gilad Karni is a former professional basketball player + Special Forces Operative. Gilad now uses his background in sports, leadership, and high-pressure skills, to mentor former professional athletes to become inspiring entrepreneurs by awakening their ultimate potential, purpose, and leadership skills.
- His basketball career in Israel
- The current NBA player he played against as the Captain of the Israel Under 24 National Team
- Serving in the Special Forces
- How he met his wife, which sounds like it should be a Netflix movie
- How he followed the NBA while in Europe growing up, and experiencing the expansion of the game globally
- The NBA players he modeled his career after
- Mental Health in sports and the “performance mindset” and how to navigate after the playing days are over
- His current work in life coaching and helping people in business, including former athletes, Olympians, and entrepreneurs
- His new book + new podcast
karnigilad.com
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EP 46: Sener Korkusuz
Sener Korkusuz is CEO and Co-Founder of American 7s Football League (A7FL), 7-on-7 football without helmets or hard shell pads.
"The A7FL’s unique rules retain the toughness and excitement that fans crave while also delivering action-filled nail-biting games and mind-blowing highlights along with celebrity shout outs from Snoop Dogg, Deion Sanders and New Zealand’s All Blacks rugby team."
Currently 20 teams in 4 divisions based in New Jersey, Maryland (Baltimore), Florida (Orlando) and Southern California (San Diego), compete April to July for the Championship. This next season (their 8th) there will be new teams and divisions added. David Isaacs, who is the co-founder of the UFC is heavily involved in A7FL.
https://www.a7fl.com
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EP 45: Michael Marques
Michael Marques is a portrait and lifestyle photographer based in Connecticut whose clients include Conair, Ethan Allen, General Electric, Habitat for Humanity, School of Visual Arts, World Wrestling Entertainment, and XXL Magazine.
"There were times when I wanted to be a professional drummer and sound engineer. Around that same time, I began using my father’s old SLR to photograph hardcore and punk bands passing through on tour. That changed everything."
We discussed:
- Coming up as a photographer in the music scene
- How he’s connected to Adam Sandler
- Storytelling, and how it has changed with our phones and social media
- Taking over as Executive Director of Connecticut Art Directors Club
- Discuss his thoughts on HEARTLENT Group's Hoopers Vote campaign, which won 4 total awards and Best In Show in the recent Connecticut Art Directors Club show
- His thoughts on where photography is today, with the iPhone, the apps, the immediacy
- Where the Connecticut Art Directors Club is heading
marquescreative.com
cadc.org
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EP 44: Thoughts + Lessons From 1-Year of HEARTLENT Group
This episode is just the 3 of us with no guest, exactly how we started this thing 43 episodes prior.
We dig into how this podcast started and why, and how it has been beneficial to us.
We also discuss the first year of HEARTLENT Group. The work we have done, the things we have learned, and some advice we want to pass on.
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EP 43: Rebecca Levin
Rebecca Levin is a VP at IMG Media
- We talked about growing up outside NYC
- Rebecca was a Collegiate Club Rugby player and that involvement in and her contacts in the sport helped her determine she wanted to work in sports
- How her career started in Minor League Baseball and all that she was exposed to with that team
- How she arrived at Octagon, MLB Network, and then IMG Media where she's been now for over 10-years
- Where she spends her time with clients including LPGA, World's Strongest Man, and New York City Marathon
- The role of UFC since becoming a part of Endeavor
- The rise of the niche sport
- How IMG approaches content, and how Rebecca navigated World's Strongest Man during COVID
- What Rebecca's clients are doing within NFTs (example: Wimbledon and Andy Murray)
- Staying with a company for over 10-years is rare in our industry, so we ask Rebecca what people should look for and keep in mind when determining if you should stay with a company or leave to get a promotion/raise
- The change in the relationship between athletes and fans
Rebecca on LinkedIn
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EP 42: Joe Pinchin
Joe Pinchin is the Manager of Digital Content at the Chicago Bulls
Discussed:
- Career path that includes three years at FIBA prior to landing a position with the Chicago Bulls in 2020
- The experience of joining an organization in the middle of a pandemic and working remotely
- How the Bulls digital team handled content surrounding The Last Dance
- The Bulls strategic approach and new rollout of NFTs
- The balance of creating content for hardcore basketball fans and off the court content for casual fans
- Emerging tech to keep an eye on for content creators
https://twitter.com/JoePinchin
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Ep 41: Steven Brunner
Steven Brunner started King of the Mountain Sports Marketing (KOM) in 2005 after leaving a senior executive marketing position at the U.S. Olympic Committee. He had previously been a marketing executive for Turner Sports in Atlanta, and associate executive director at USA Wrestling.
We discussed:
- His roots in Wisconsin
- How he got into running in high school (was a collegiate duathlete and triathlete)
- How he started KOM and what KOM focuses on
- His thoughts on niche and smaller sports recently getting their due recognition
- An amazing Tour de France story -- yes those fans are super close to the action, and yes they do get run over
- His thoughts on the Olympic Games in Tokyo (he has worked 6 Olympic Games)
- Perspective on NIL and the desire to make it more equitable
- KOM’s latest project, with news he has not publicly stated yet
komsports.com
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EP 40: Zach Best
Zach Best is General Manager and Founder at Fansided, recently acquired by Minute Media. We get into his Kansas City Chiefs fandom, how Fansided started with his brother, his thoughts on the industry and where things are headed.
We discussed:
- Career paths not being a straight line to where you end up. Zach came out of college in the Hospitality industry, decided that wasn’t for him and went and got his Masters in Secondary Education. While coaching and teaching he started Fansided with his brother and went full-time on Fansided after 5-years.
- How Fansided changed from inception to today, and after being acquired by Minute Media
- Centralized fan content coverage
- The opportunity Zach felt existed when launching Fansided
- The content Fansided focuses on, and how the company started in sports but has since broadened to entertainment
- Have fans changed with how they interact with teams?
- Sports Betting implications
- Why Zach thinks this year’s NFL outcome will be different than last year for the Chiefs
- The rise of niche sports
https://twitter.com/zacharybest
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EP 39: Selena Castillo
We welcomed the Creative Director for Duke Women’s Basketball, Selena Castillo on the show. In this episode, we discussed:
- Working through Covid and how she and the team adapted
- What it’s like to work side-by-side with Kara Lawson as the Duke head coach
- Her creative approach to content
- The increased popularity of women’s college basketball and the WNBA
https://twitter.com/selenarcastillo
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Ep 38: Anthony Donahue
We talked about New York Knicks basketball with superfan and Knicks content/media personality Anthony Donahue, as the Knicks enter the Playoffs and continue their bright season.
- How the Knicks entered and have played such a key role in his life
- Becoming a superfan and fantrepreneur creating content, shooting commercials, interviewing current and former players, how he tried to create and do something different
- This current season’s storylines
- Coach Tom Thibodeau’s involvement in this year’s team and creating stability in the organization
https://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG
https://www.instagram.com/anthonymsg
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Ep 37: Matt Wurst
We recorded this episode with Matt Wurst roughly 2-mo ago. It was when Clubhouse was on fire and you could not ignore it. Matt has always been an early adopter and one to jump into things and have a POV quickly, so we wanted to talk to him about how he has been engaging on Clubhouse and the opportunities he sees. We then recorded some episodes we felt were more timely and we prioritized them before Matt’s episode. What has been interesting and not unusual is in the span of those weeks, Clubhouse has taken a dive and people who were hot on it weeks ago are sour on it now. We wanted to release this episode to highlight where things were weeks ago, compared to where they are now + Matt is a smart guy in our industry who we always enjoy catching up with.
Matt Wurst was Managing Director, North America of Revelation, an agency that was acquired by Jellyfish at the beginning of 2021. He now has the role of VP, Global Clients with Jellyfish.
We discussed:
- Matt’s experience from being on Clubhouse from the beginning
- How it started versus where it is now
- How people can engage in Clubhouse
- How COVID played into Clubhouse taking off. Or did it?
- How Moderators of Clubhouse rooms can really strengthen the discussion
- Who is the best competitor of Clubhouse -- Facebook? Twitter?
- What interesting uses Matt has seen of Clubhouse or Twitter Spaces
- Brands engaging in Clubhouse/audio
- Matt’s career arc and what he’s up to these days with Jellyfish
Matt on Twitter // https://twitter.com/mwurst
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Ep 36: Emily Miller
Emily Miller is Senior Digital Marketing Manager at The New York Racing Association. We talked to her about her career in sports and what led her to her current role with NYRA.
We discussed:
- Growing up in Saratoga and around the track
- How she got into her role at NYRA
- What her current role at NYRA entails
- How and why data and analytics, and the psychology of being a fan impacts her work
- How she develops content for the wide range of horse racing fan -- the casual fan to the avid bettor -- and the differences in audiences between the tracks she has purview over
- How horse racing has had a large lead in sport betting and how that impacts the current sports betting landscape
- How important it is to drive an in-person experience that is better than a consumer enjoying at-home
- How COVID changed what she was doing day in and out
- Discussions on fans returning to the horse track
- How horses get their names, and what Emily’s favorite horse name is
Emily on Twitter // https://twitter.com/emrachmill
The New York Racing Association // https://www.nyrainc.com
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Ep 35: Michael Arzt
Michael Arzt is COO of Atari VCS and Connected Devices
We discussed:
- His career and how he entered gaming and eSports well before the trajectory it has experienced lately
- What he’s doing at Atari
- Early days of Twitch and eSports
- The latest Atari release and where Atari is headed
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Ep 34: Amir Zonozi
Amir Zonozi is President and Co-Founder of Zoomph, a company that helps teams, leagues, brands, and agencies measure the value of sponsorships and understand their audiences for sports and esports.
We discussed:
- Amir’s background
- How Zoomph started, and the teams they first started working with (“They gave us Press passes, and they shouldn’t have”)
- Amir deconstructs sponsored content that performed well because it incorporated the data
- How important is the team winning to the success of the content they share?
- Why Specification and Community matters so much
- Is there such a thing as too much data? (Question submitted from Christian Matthews, Vice President, Strategy & Sponsorship - Washington Football Team)
- Did you know Shaq has a 12-song Greatest Hits rap album?! Elliot did!
- Shoutout to NWSL, NWHL, Paul Rabil, Dan LaTorraca and the Carolina Hurricanes, Washington Football Team, XFL Digital Teams
- Amir tells a great eSports sponsor story: DHL
Amir on Twitter // https://twitter.com/Zonozi
https://zoomph.com
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Ep 33: Luc Doucet
Luc Doucet is Founder at The First Mint, a platform that covers NBA Top Shot, streams, analytics, and podcasts. They are building the future of reactive media in the social ecosystem of blockchain.
We recently talked to Jack Settleman about NBA Top Shot and in that episode he mentioned Luc, and based on what he said about him we knew we needed to talk to Luc.
We discussed:
- What is NBA Top Shot and why Luc said it is “quantifying fandom”
- Why has Luc been so gracious in giving his time and experience in helping people understand NBA Top Shot and digital collectibles
- The quantity and scarcity of the digital collectables market
- Where NBA Top Shot needs to go in order to make this more balanced so new fans can enter for under $30
- Likening NBA Top Shot to Crack and Scratch Lottery Tickets
- Why right now was the perfect time for NBA Top Shot to launch and be successful
- How the real story here is Blockchain
- How NBA Top Shot is building the blueprint for how this is done for not only brands to follow, but consumers to have less of a barrier of entry
- Why Luc said “I've told all my peers that their opportunities are in crypto now. Just like they were in Social 10 years ago.”
- Luc explains how the resistance to blockchain and digital collectables is very similar to when email was introduced
Luc on Twitter // https://twitter.com/lgdoucet
The First Mint on Twitter // https://twitter.com/TheFirstMint
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EP 32: Elex Michaelson
Elex Michaelson is Anchor on Fox News LA, weeknights 5, 6, 7 and 10PM, and Host of California’s only statewide political show “The Issue Is”. We discussed the current political, media and entertainment, and sports landscape, and how they all intersect.
We discussed:
- How the media has changed over the last 10+ years and how that has opened up the opportunity for athletes to control and deliver their own messaging
- How Elex handled the Trump Administration, and how the media will now change with the Biden Administration
- When legacy news programming and the 6pm / 6:30pm news will change given the current digital and social landscape and people consuming their information in different ways
- Reinvention models of news programming given our digital and social environment and consumption
- Why owning a helicopter is a big fucking deal
- How reporters handle Fake News and how Elex is bridging the gap between the two sides to find common ground
- People’s attention spans and how they either consume 8-seconds or 3-hours
- A peek behind some of the interviews Elex has done with political figures
- One of Elex’s favorite interviews: Arnold Schwarzenegger
- Millennials changing the voting landscape, looking at how Gen Z views the world, and how that is important when they have the voting power
- The LA sports scene
- The devastating impact of Kobe’s death in Los Angeles, and how Elex covered it
- Jerry West’s impact on the NBA, and according to Elex how he rightfully deserves to remain the NBA Logo
Elex on Twitter // https://twitter.com/Elex_Michaelson
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Ep 31: Jack Settleman
We welcome “Mr Internet” Jack Settleman to help us understand the digital collectible NBA Topshot, because we need the info!
We discuss digital collectibles, NBA Topshot specifically, CryptoKitties, NFT, Blockchain, Crypto… jump in!
Jack on Twitter // https://twitter.com/jacksettleman
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Ep 30: Chris Grosse
Chris Grosse is Assistant Athletics Director for Marketing at Penn State University. We talked to him about his career leading up to Penn State, what he does at Penn State, and how he has helped with the careers of juniors and students looking to get into and advance in the sports industry.
We discussed:
- How he started working directly with juniors and students
- His career trajectory from the Northeast to the South to the Southwest and back to the Northeast
- Advice to students coming out of school: being flexible, in 4 parts
- What his job entails at Penn State
- What Chris sees that sticks out in the fan engagement space: being first, best, or different
- How Chris works with the coaching staff to ensure buy-in
- Name Image Likeness implications
- Impact of COVID on his work, and how Chris is working on bringing fans back in to the stadium
Chris on Twitter // https://twitter.com/Chris_Grosse
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Ep 29: Katie Linendoll
Katie Linendoll is an Emmy Award-winning TV personality, consumer technology expert, and one of the leading women in the field of technology.
As one of the most in-demand technology experts worldwide, Linendoll is recognized by a wide-range of audiences for her reporting and frequent appearances as an expert contributor for major media outlets including NBC’s “TODAY” show, “The Rachael Ray Show”, Hallmark’s “Home & Family”, and numerous shows on The Weather Channel, CBS Sports Radio, and more.
We discussed:
- Katie’s career trajectory from behind-the-scenes production to a prominent on-air personality
- Emerging technology and what’s on the horizon for 2021
- How Katie assembled a team and how they help her achieve career success
Katie on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/katielinendoll
Katie on Twitter // https://twitter.com/KatieLinendoll
Katie on YouTube // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw-APg2HrgO8LkJ-gBpx6ww
Katie’s Web site // katielinendoll.com
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Ep 28: Rashad Campbell
Guest Host: Brandon Chubb
Rashad Campbell is an athlete and businessman. He graduated from Cornell University and played Defensive Back on the football team, where as a senior he set an Ivy League record for kick return yards in a season and became the only Ivy player with multiple returns for a score. His 1,921 career kickoff return yards ranks third all-time in the Ivy League. Football has been a consistent thread throughout his family (brother Ibraheim plays for the Indianapolis Colts) and we discuss being a football player and where that can take you, and how Rashad has found many business and corporate environments are similar to the game of football. Rashad has transitioned from football to a financial career, first in selling alternative investments, and now as Partner at Team Altemus where he works directly with athletes from a financial perspective.
We discussed:
- Rashad growing up in Philadelphia
- His time at Cornell, and how the power of the Ivy League and the alumni base impacts his business to this day
- Transitioning from football into selling alternative investments in a private equity firm
- How important team dynamics are on and off the field
- Background of Team Altemus, where Rashad is Partner, and how Team Altemus works with college teams and athletes in preparing them for life after college
- The implications of NIL (Name Image Likeness) and what Team Altemus is doing within the NIL space
- Opportunity Cost, especially as an athlete
- How to prepare student athletes for the future
Rashad on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/rashadcampbellsc
Team Altemus // https://www.team-altemus.com
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Ep 27: Jay Koeppel
Jay Koeppel is a big NY Jets fan which opened doors for opportunities and businesses such as creating a magazine, guerilla marketing campaigns, getting press credentials from the Jets, and doing stunty and buzzworthy things on behalf of his Jets fandom which got him local and national media attention countless times.
As much of his business life was ramping up, COVID shut down many aspects of his business and opportunities, and Jay pivoted into getting on the radar with Gary Vaynerchuk, staying on that radar, and getting hired to work for Gary to develop content for One37pm.
We discussed:
- Jay’s relationship with Elliot over the last 5+ years
- Lifelong Jets fandom since 5-years-old
- The Jets magazine he developed and ran
- The stunts, mainly trolling the New England Patriots, which you likely have heard of but maybe didn’t know who was behind it
- His merch lines and developed products
- Getting a job with Gary Vaynerchuk in the middle of COVID
Jay on Twitter // https://twitter.com/JayKoeppel
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EP 26: Adena Jones
Adena Jones is one of the Social Media OGs, and you might know her from Bleacher Report, ESPN, NBA TV, Soul Cycle, and many others…. She has recently co-founded and launched Another Lane, an exclusive sneaker marketplace and community, with her husband Chad.
We talked about:
- How the four of us worked within the beginnings of Social Media… remember Twitpic?
- Why it is so important for a brand to have brand guidelines on Social Media
- Sneaker Culture: where it started
- Adena and Chad’s background in sneaker culture
- Adena’s favorite pairs of sneakers, and how Dr. J is involved
- The sneakers Adena and Chad chose to wear on their wedding day
- The difference between a Collector and a Reseller in Sneaker Culture
- How Another Lane started and why it started
https://anotherlane.com
Adena on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/adena_jones/
Chad on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/sneaker_galactus/
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EP 25: Micöl Rankin
Micöl Rankin is a multimedia creative. He’s in the advertising industry, he’s a musician, and he is host of a high-energy podcast on LinkedIn.
We get into:
- why anyone would put a podcast on LinkedIn
- his internship at Disney
- the very important election campaign this year
- what goes into his creativity and how many people are hung up by the process sometimes
- his flash programming and video game creation
- how being a musician led him to the advertising industry and how he got his greatest experience in advertising by marketing himself as an artist
- how he started it all with $300 and a move to Atlanta
Micöl dives into a competitive/unfair mentality that people with good mindsets have, using a sports example of winning, that will stick with us for quite some time.
Micöl’s website // https://rankinworks.me
Micöl on Twitter // https://twitter.com/iamnovinov
Check out #YouAreDope on LinkedIn
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EP 24: Hoody + Myke Terry
Myke Terry is vocals/frontman of the Fearless Records band Volumes
Hoody is a San Diego based, East Coast born DJ
Myke and Hoody grew up in Virginia, and have known each other for many years. They also both know Keith from Virginia, so this was a bit of a 10-year+ reunion of sorts.
We discuss:
- growing up in Virginia and how music entered both of their lives
- how it was for them growing up playing + appreciating a genre of music that did not have many black people in it
- their thoughts on the current digital service provider music landscape
- if they feel they need to be on all platforms
- COVID livestreams and battles, and if either of them will look to incorporate those things once in-person shows resume
We also get Hoody’s tips for booking a DJ for your wedding and navigating the music played at the event.
Myke on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/myketerryble/
Hoody on Instagram // https://www.instagram.com/hoodyxx/
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