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By Jared Rizzi

Jared Rizzi, former White House correspondent, hosts "At The Table." Take your seat and join a conversation of diverse voices talking politics and community. Through humor, vulnerability, and intention, we can-- together-- meet the challenges of this moment of history.
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Three Wednesdays in January

At The TableFeb 19, 2021

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“Let my family know that I died trying” [Edward Simiyu, Mercy Corps Uganda country director interview]

“Let my family know that I died trying” [Edward Simiyu, Mercy Corps Uganda country director interview]

Edward Simiyu, Mercy Corps Uganda country director, joins Jared to give an update on COVID-19 and humanitarian efforts.

Support Mercy Corps in Eastern Africa

Seg 1: COVID-19 in Uganda
Seg 2: Dignity and Equity, Lockdowns and Vaccines
Seg 3: Delta Variant in 2% vaccinated Uganda
Seg 4: Mercy Corps mission in Uganda

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Jul 01, 202135:58
WWF Farmers Post [Katherine Devine & Julia Kurnik interview]

WWF Farmers Post [Katherine Devine & Julia Kurnik interview]

World Wildlife Fund’s Markets Institute proposes a new business model to connect farmers and consumers using the US mail. It could benefit all involved, improve conservation, enhance veterans' well-being, and reduce food waste throughout the economy. It's a perfect topic for At The Table, even before a certain family connection.

Guests: Katherine Devine, director of business case development, and Julia Kurnik, director of innovation start-ups, both at the World Wildlife Fund’s Markets Institute.


Katherine's op-ed in the Washington Post

WWF Farmers Post Business Case

Twitter: WWF | WWF Markets Institute | Katherine | Julia


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Mar 19, 202135:32
Three Wednesdays in January

Three Wednesdays in January

Reflections on a violent American transfer of power.

Meredith Shiner was a Capitol Hill reporter from 2009-2016. She lives in Chicago with her husband and son.

Meredith's latest at The New Republic

Segment 1: “When the Terrorists Came for the View from Nowhere”
Segment 2: We need to think about 1/6 like Shanksville PA
Segment 3: Democrats say this is segment three
Segment 4: “Apolitical” coverage is a partisan choice
Segment 5: “I wrote this for them”

Meredith on Twitter

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Feb 19, 202143:48
Intercalary
Dec 31, 202014:11
The Trump aftermath in Georgia [Patricia Murphy interview]

The Trump aftermath in Georgia [Patricia Murphy interview]

With the Trump campaign still litigating the general election results from November 3rd, and the two special Senate elections ahead on January 5th, Jared checks in with Atlanta Journal-Constitution politics reporter Patricia Murphy.

Patricia Murphy on Twitter

Segment 1: 2020 was a smooth Georgia election
Segment 2: Fire breath and snake oil
Segment 3: How Blue is Georgia?


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Nov 23, 202029:36
SCOTUS before, during, & after Election 2020 [Eric Segall interview]

SCOTUS before, during, & after Election 2020 [Eric Segall interview]

Eric Segall is a professor at Georgia State College of Law. He hosts the Supreme Myths podcast. He has authored Originalism as Faith (2018) and Supreme Myths: Why the Supreme Court is Not a Court and Its Justices are Not Judges (2012).

Prof. Eric Segall on Twitter

Segment 1: Election 2020 and the new Supreme Court “This is all a function of one opinion in Bush vs Gore”
Segment 2: Justice Barrett and abortion “Her mission is to overturn Roe vs Wade”
Segment 3: SCOTUS & ObamaCare “They’re not gonna overturn ObamaCare this term”
Segment 4: “the Trump administration is just, effectively, the Evangelical administration”

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Nov 01, 202038:42
Susan Collins: a cautionary tale for the Senate, and for Joe Biden [Meredith Shiner interview]

Susan Collins: a cautionary tale for the Senate, and for Joe Biden [Meredith Shiner interview]

Meredith Shiner was a Capitol Hill reporter from 2009-2016. She lives in Chicago with her husband and son.

Meredith's latest at The New Republic

Segment 1: “the Myth of Susan Collins”
Segment 2: Kavanaugh & Barrett
Segment 3: Ranked Choice Voting
Segment 4: Senate Broken
Segment 5: “Irreparably broken”
Segment 6: Re: Senate Attn: Joe Biden
Segment 7: Blow up the Hooplah
Segment 8: Coda

Meredith on Twitter

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Oct 26, 202001:00:19
“Vote like your life depends on it, just on healthcare alone” [Matthew Cortland interview]
Oct 25, 202057:26
"I don't trust [Postmaster General DeJoy's] words on a page" [North Carolina AG Josh Stein interview]
Aug 24, 202026:52
Beirut explosion aftermath [Juliana Bssawmai / CARE Lebanon interview]

Beirut explosion aftermath [Juliana Bssawmai / CARE Lebanon interview]

Juliana Bssawmai serves as  Safety and Security Coordinator for CARE International in Lebanon. 

Support CARE's mission in Lebanon and around the world: CARE.org

Segment 1: “Triple crisis” in Lebanon
Segment 2: “Being Lebanese and trying to deal with this Lebanese crisis”
Segment 3: “Women and girls are likely to be amongst the most vulnerable”

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Aug 15, 202025:17
"I've never been happier to see August come" [Oregon AG Ellen Rosenblum interview]
Aug 01, 202030:11
COVID-19 & school this fall: “I think it’s gonna be a disaster" [Dr. Daniel Summers interview]

COVID-19 & school this fall: “I think it’s gonna be a disaster" [Dr. Daniel Summers interview]

Dr. Daniel Summers is a pediatrician in Massachusetts. His most recent piece on Arc Digital: A School is Not Home Depot. He also writes for Slate.

Segment 1: Absolute vs. adjusted risk
Segment 2: Inconceivable
Segment 3: Surgeon General on masks; pushing buttons
Segment 4: COVID-19 & school this fall: “I think it’s gonna be a disaster”
Segment 5: Humility & empathy

Dan Summers on Twitter

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Jul 20, 202038:43
“The disability community knew this was coming” [Rebecca Cokley interview]

“The disability community knew this was coming” [Rebecca Cokley interview]

Rebecca Cokley is the director of the Disability Justice Initiative at the Center for American Progress. She joins Jared to talk about her recent argument against ableist language when criticizing President Trump, the impact the Trump administration has had for the disability community, and her work with the Biden campaign on disability policy.

Segment 1: More than ramps and water glasses
Segment 2: Old white men doing push-ups
Segment 3: “The disability community knew this was coming with Trump”
Segment 4: Biden: “Joe’s part of our community”
Segment 5: COVID: “This will be the largest boom in the disability population since AIDS/HIV"
Segment 6: Vote By Mail & why Britney Spears can’t vote
Segment 7: Key policy areas for the disability community
Segment 8: One of the greatest gifts in this dumpster fire

Rebecca Cokley on Twitter

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Jul 06, 202058:12
“Is this the moment where I have to say the thing?” [Cecilia Muñoz / More Than Ready book interview]

“Is this the moment where I have to say the thing?” [Cecilia Muñoz / More Than Ready book interview]

Cecilia Muñoz is the vice president, public interest technology and new initiatives at New America. She served in the Obama White House as Director of the Domestic Policy Council. She is the author of More Than Ready: Be Strong and Be You... And Other Lessons for Women of Color on the Rise. [Indiebound] [Bookshop.org]

Segment 1: On DACA: “I couldn’t stop sobbing”
Segment 2: “What’s your strategy for self-doubt?”
Segment 3: A racist in the Oval Office
Segment 4: “Is this the moment where I have to say the thing?”
Segment 5: “My daughters understand their power better than I did”
Segment 6: An omission from the book
Segment 7: “Who’s sitting at the table, & who’s sitting at the back of the room?”

Cecilia on Twitter

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Jun 26, 202043:32
A sigh of relief [FWD.us Juan Escalante on DACA]

A sigh of relief [FWD.us Juan Escalante on DACA]

Juan Escalante, Digital Campaigns Manager for FWD.us, joins Jared to talk about this moment in an immigration fight that has dominated half his life, and what's next now that the Supreme Court has ruled - for now - against the Trump Administration on DACA.

Segment 1: DACA Yoda
Segment 2: Trump needs to “Take the L” on DACA
Segment 3: A fifteen-year fight
Segment  4: The casual, callous evil of Trump
Segment 5: Make Joe Biden uncomfortable
Segment 6: New Horizons

Juan Escalante on Twitter

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Jun 23, 202045:54
Fatherhood and Feminism [Sebastián Molano interview]

Fatherhood and Feminism [Sebastián Molano interview]

Sebastián Molano is the leader and founder of Defying Gender Roles and a Senior Adviser on Gender for Oxfam America.

Link to his recent DGR piece

Segment 1: Father's Day & Juneteenth
Segment 2: The opposite of violence is care
Segment 3: Raising a feminist son
Segment 4: "Sit in that uncomfortableness"
Segment 5: A Better Answer

Sebastián Molano on Twitter

Defying Gender Roles on Facebook

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Jun 19, 202045:31
"You oughta be talking to the waitresses" [Christina Wolbrecht interview]

"You oughta be talking to the waitresses" [Christina Wolbrecht interview]

Christina Wolbrecht, professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame and author, most recently, of A Century of Votes for Women with Kevin Corder, talks with Jared about the political mobilization of women over the last hundred years, and how women may use their political power over the next few months of the US general election. 

Segment 1: Edwardians playing golf
Segment 2: Masc vs Mask - gender (& race) and political power
Segment 3: Having it all: women in politics
Segment 4: Women leaders: how do they compare?
Segment 5: "You oughta be talking to the waitresses" - voter demobilization in COVID-19
Segment 6: A perfect storm for voter suppression
Segment 7: Women, Labor, and political power
Segment 8: "Women have been the backbone for political movements" in US history
Segment 9:  Emergency tikka masala

Christina Wolbrecht on Twitter

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May 29, 202001:05:16
Fighting simplistic history [Kevin Kruse interview]

Fighting simplistic history [Kevin Kruse interview]

Kevin Kruse, professor of history at Princeton University, joins Jared to talk about telling nuanced stories, why he engages on Twitter, whether AG Bill Barr can be sure of his legacy, and the next big political issue: labor rights after COVID-19.

Segment 1: In a crisis, people "aren't gonna buy that gauzy, simplistic story"
Segment 2: Twitter "cross-pollinates pretty well"
Segment 3: Will this WH write its own history? "Just gonna be one voice... drowned out by facts"
Segment 4: "Essential workers" and a revival of Labor rights

Kevin Kruse on Twitter

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May 20, 202035:26
Not Okay, Together [live with Eric Geller]

Not Okay, Together [live with Eric Geller]

A different type of At The Table: a conversation with Eric Geller (cybersecurity reporter for POLITICO, also known as "dave") on how we're doing in quarantine. Audio from our live conversation on YouTube May 14 2020. Watch it here.

Segment 1: Frenemies at Best
Segment 2: A Smushed Reeses
Segment 3: Witless Banter

dave on Twitter @DerrickReesesSmusher

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May 16, 202001:04:60
Rep. Madeleine Dean on Trump & COVID-19, oversight struggles, & Biden 2020
May 14, 202027:25
"We're all behind you, let's go" [Ben Corb ASBMB interview]

"We're all behind you, let's go" [Ben Corb ASBMB interview]

In a recent piece, American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (ASBMB) director of public affairs Ben Corb argues that politics has gotten in the way of good science in the context of COVID-19 research. 

Ben Corb on Twitter

Pipettes & Politics podcast


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May 04, 202026:31
Not Okay, Together [with Chuck Wendig]

Not Okay, Together [with Chuck Wendig]

A different type of At The Table: a conversation with Chuck Wendig (author of Wanderers, the forthcoming Dust & Grim) on how we're doing in quarantine.

Segment 1: "My brain is a forcefield"
Segment 2: "Every day is new cotton inside the brain"
Segment 3: My anxiety is *smug*
Segment 4: Batman has cancer, needs a therapist
Segment 5: Those are shit lentils

Chuck Wendig on Twitter

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Apr 29, 202033:33
Not Okay, Together [with David Mack]

Not Okay, Together [with David Mack]

A different type of At The Table: a conversation with David Mack (deputy director of breaking news at BuzzFeed News) on how we're doing in quarantine.

Segment 1: Horny on Main
Segment 2: Zoom into Darkness
Segment 3: Better Left Unsaid
Segment 4: Evidence of Hot Pockets Unseen

David Mack on Twitter

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Apr 24, 202033:18
Not Okay, Together [with Emma Bolden]

Not Okay, Together [with Emma Bolden]

A different type of At The Table: a conversation with Emma Bolden (author: House is an Enigma, associate editor-in-chief, Tupelo Quarterly) on how we're doing in quarantine. 

Segment 1: Doublemint Gum Jingle
Segment 2: What's your guilt language?
Segment 3: "If perverted was a mouth feel"
Segment 4: "This is a poem about John Malkovich's mascara"

Emma Bolden on Twitter

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Apr 18, 202040:54
Finding our best selves in quarantine [Olga Khazan/Weird book interview]
Apr 10, 202036:37
"The worst way to gain knowledge is through experience" - Trump and COVID-19 [Guy Snodgrass interview]
Apr 01, 202026:42
"I think [CDC's] guidance has been good" [Dr Marcus Plescia interview]

"I think [CDC's] guidance has been good" [Dr Marcus Plescia interview]

Dr. Marcus Plescia, Chief Medical Officer for the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, joins Jared to discuss the COVID-19 novel coronavirus pandemic and the government response at the federal and state/territory levels in the US. 

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Special thanks to Ben Corb of the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology

Mar 13, 202025:52
"Lots of spoilers" likely for the Afghanistan peace process [Matt Hoh interview part 2]
Mar 08, 202028:33
"I wouldn't bet" on the Afghanistan peace process [Matt Hoh interview part 1]
Mar 07, 202037:51
Post-Super Tuesday
Mar 04, 202011:31
The Legend of Pistachio Joe
Mar 01, 202012:30
Who is electable? You are. [Ashley Wilson interview]

Who is electable? You are. [Ashley Wilson interview]

Ashley Wilson is the director of state and local political campaigns for NGP VAN and the founder of PoliTechinColor.com with resources for first-time candidates of color.

Ashley Wilson on Twitter

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Jan 25, 202024:16
"I would be careful about assessing the truth" [Aki Peritz interview re: Iran]

"I would be careful about assessing the truth" [Aki Peritz interview re: Iran]

Aki Peritz is a former CIA counterterrorism analyst and author of Find Fix Finish. Peritz discusses how decision-makers are presented with intelligence and options from those in the military or intelligence communities, and how that system may have worked (or not) with President Trump over the last few days with Iran. Even as the president assures he "likes to follow the law" re: targeting cultural sites, this is an administration and an electorate that seems enthusiastic about flouting rules of engagement and committing war crimes. How will that color the 2020 election?

segment 1: assessing the truth about what happened over the last few days
segment 2: Iran's strengths and weaknesses
segment 3: Trump's enthusiasm for war crimes

Aki Peritz on Twitter

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Jan 08, 202040:46
Not The Impeachment or Debates Episode
Dec 18, 201924:10
"The fact that it makes other candidates really mad, even better." [Pat Garofalo/The Billionaire Boondoggle book interview]

"The fact that it makes other candidates really mad, even better." [Pat Garofalo/The Billionaire Boondoggle book interview]

Pat Garofalo, managing editor at Talk Poverty at the Center for American Progress, joins Jared to talk about the fifth DNC primary debate, Trump's challenging week, and Democrats' opportunity to talk about the economy in a field where billionaires (and those who claim to be billionaires) aren't leading in polls. Pat is the author of the new book, THE BILLIONAIRE BOONDOGGLE: How Our Politicians Let Corporations and Bigwigs Steal Our Money and Jobs.

Pat Garofalo on Twitter

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Nov 23, 201933:47
With Trump: "what you see is what you get." [Guy Snodgrass/Holding the Line book interview]

With Trump: "what you see is what you get." [Guy Snodgrass/Holding the Line book interview]

Guy Snodgrass served as director of communications and speechwriter to former Secretary of Defense Mattis. His military career (now retired) includes time as a naval aviator, a TOP-GUN instructor, and a combat pilot. He is the author of the new book, HOLDING THE LINE: Inside Trump's Pentagon with Secretary Mattis.

segment 1: Snodgrass responds to criticisms of the book from Mattis and Mattis aides
segment 2: Snodgrass explains his working relationship with SecDef Mattis and the perspective it gave him on President Trump
segment 3: Snodgrass argues that this perspective is necessary now to help people make a decision before the 2020 election

Guy Snodgrass on Twitter

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Nov 02, 201950:39
When POC are owners of guns? "You hear silence" [Greg Jackson interview]

When POC are owners of guns? "You hear silence" [Greg Jackson interview]

Greg Jackson, national advocacy director for Community Justice Action Fund (CJAF), joins Jared to talk about their work to reduce gun violence and affect change on criminal justice reform. 

segment 1: welcome to Local 16
segment 2: the epidemic of gun violence
segment 3: race and trauma
segment 4: solutions and hope for 2020

Greg Jackson on Twitter

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Thanks to Aman Ayoub and everyone at DC's Local 16

Oct 30, 201958:02
Tech Cos Strip-Mining the News Business [John Stanton interview]

Tech Cos Strip-Mining the News Business [John Stanton interview]

John Stanton, co-founder of Save Journalism Project, joins Jared to talk about the work their organization has been doing to fight corporate and tech dominance over news business models, and new resources on offer for journalists who find themselves looking for work or other help. 

John Stanton on Twitter
Save Journalism Project on Twitter

Thanks to Nicky Vogt for technical assistance for this episode.

Full episodes, behind-the-scenes content [including some very interesting pre-interview moments with John from this conversation...], and other benefits are available to supporters of At The Table on Patreon.


Oct 18, 201934:20
Why Mayor Pete is Attacking M4A [Wala Blegay & Alex Lawson interview]

Why Mayor Pete is Attacking M4A [Wala Blegay & Alex Lawson interview]

Pre-DNC debate live at Local 16 in DC. Jared is joined by staff attorney for DC Nurses Association Wala Blegay [Twitter] and executive director for Social Security Works Alex Lawson [Twitter]. 

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Host: Jared Rizzi [Twitter]
Producer: Akin Adams

Thanks to Aman Ayoub and everyone at DC's Local 16

Oct 16, 201939:51
Evaluating Trump, 2020 Dems economic policies [Kyle Pomerleau interview]

Evaluating Trump, 2020 Dems economic policies [Kyle Pomerleau interview]

Kyle Pomerleau, chief economist and vice president of economic analysis at Tax Foundation, joins Jared live at Local 16 to talk about the policies on the economy we've seen from the Trump White House so far, and comparing the policies from main Democratic contenders in the 2020 DNC primary for president. 

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Host: Jared Rizzi [Twitter]
Producer: Akin Adams

Thanks to Aman Ayoub and everyone at DC's Local 16

Oct 03, 201901:07:46
Accountability (and Impeachment) come for Trump
Sep 30, 201904:45
Fighting An Ecological Pyramid Scheme [Mathis Wackernagel interview]

Fighting An Ecological Pyramid Scheme [Mathis Wackernagel interview]

Mathis Wackernagel, founder and president of Global Footprint Network, joins Jared to discuss #MoveTheDate, using a financial lens to examine our environmental impact, and why more people having "skin in the game" gives him hope for real change. 

Support this conversation and unlock additional benefits by backing At The Table on Patreon.

Sep 20, 201924:50
"My theory of electoral change is different..." [Indivisible's Lucy Solomon interview]

"My theory of electoral change is different..." [Indivisible's Lucy Solomon interview]

Lucy Solomon, associate political director at Indivisible, rejoins Jared At The Table for a live event at DC's Local 16 to check in on the 2020 race and weigh in on issues she believes will be winners for Progressives this cycle. 

A full version of this live event is available for supporters of At The Table on Patreon.

Lucy Solomon on Twitter

Host: Jared Rizzi [Twitter]
Producer: Akin Adams

Thanks to Aman Ayoub and everyone at DC's Local 16

Sep 18, 201947:53
Luck, Resources, and Improving Options after Hurricane Dorian [Mercy Corps/Christy Delafield interview]
Sep 16, 201922:01
"What's your greatest weakness?" DNC Debates (round 3) recap
Sep 13, 201921:41
"Don't, Don't Look Away" - Room For More [Andrea Peterson interview]
Sep 12, 201925:41
"Just the existence of this bill... is destructive" [Meredith Shiner interview]
Sep 12, 201952:01
Riders in the Storm
Sep 06, 201907:57
Friday Night Meatballs has Competition [Steve Le interview]

Friday Night Meatballs has Competition [Steve Le interview]

Jared sits down with Steve Le [website: LeMobileFeast.com] about his project: traveling to all fifty states making 259 dinners for people in their homes. The purpose? To rediscover a country he didn't think he recognized after 2015-2016. We talk a lot about the virtue of hospitality here on At The Table; Steve has lived it and learned from it in a big way. 

A full version of this episode and additional benefits for fans of At The Table are available through Patreon.

Thanks to Mike & Nancy Devine for use of their space to record.

Special thanks to Shawn Gee for connecting two people he knew would be kindred spirits.

Aug 30, 201945:57
Wandering
Aug 23, 201911:29