Though They Die
By Andy & Elie
In this series, Andy and Elie engage with the things of this world through the lens of eternity, taking as inspiration John 11:25: “Jesus said to her, ‘I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live.” Though the things of this present reality pass and fade, we can discover in them something of the true, the good, and the beautiful.
Join us weekly as we discuss movies, books, and music with Christ at the forefront.
Though They DieFeb 07, 2022
E025 | Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness
Today we are talking about the latest installment to the MCU: Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Listen as we exercise our ability to be charitable and critical.
0:30 It's not...https://www.the-numbers.com/market/2022/top-grossing-movies
1:30 Two Quick Notes: SPOILERS (same as always) & We are hereby commiting to 35 minute episodes...now that the season is over...
2:40 THIS IS THE SEASON FINALE
3:50 Synopsis (What You Were Told)
6:15 Synopsis (What You Actually Get)
6:59 Jumpin on in!
17:00 to 24:29 TRIGGER WARNING, skip if you are sensitive to topics relating to self harm.
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E024 | The Great Divorce: The best of C.S. Lewis?
Last book of the season!
Join us as we discuss the ever popular classic by C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce.
3:16 Synopsis
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E023 | Titanic: as Good/Bad as they say?
Titanic. That is all.
5:55 What we heard
8:42 Synopsis
17:18 Characters
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E022 | Father Themes in God of War
Today we are discussing 2018's God of War. Yes, a video game. A video game with SOLID story.
1:30 A Departure has occurred
9:59 Why talk about God of War?
12:19 Synopsis 35:11 JPII Healing Center <https://jpiihealingcenter.org/>
41:25 Caravaggio The Incredulity of Saint Thomas
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E021 | Justin Bieber to Dua Lippa how to listen to good music.
Today we talk about music! Generally of course, but honoing in on a few artists. How can you enjoy some secular music? Yes some should not be enetertained as good in anyway, but there is some secular music that reflects that which is true, good, and beautiful. Elie's nomination: Justin Bieber.
1:06 What's going on?
3:54 Hoppin In
9:58 CCC 1763 & 1767
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E020 | Deep Dive on The Fellowship of the Ring
Today we discuss The Fellowship of the Ring in great detail. From the Shire to Tom Bombadil to the breaking of the Fellowship, we cover both the movie, the book, and the key differences between them, leaving no page unturned.
2:56 Why this movie?
15:58 Synopsis
17:30 Plot Summary
24:39 Jumpin In
Soundtrack Show
<https://open.spotify.com/show/1WkH0wMQWzRr2pCJEiPibF?si=6h2RCgcGTVuavM-PXjN4fQ>
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E019 | The Batman (2022): "Fear is a tool"
Today we discuss the roaringly discussable "The Batman."
What does that mean? You may ask.
It means people like talking about it.
We are people so we figured we'd do the same.
Does anyone read these? DM us if you do or don't, your play.
2:53 (4:04)Synopsis
4:31 Jumpin In
20:05 MAIN THEME
27:00 But How?
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E018 | Our first short story: A Good Man Is Hard To Find
Join us as we discuss Flannery O'Connor's work A Good Man is Hard To Find. We look at conversion and sincerity!
CONTENT WARNING: If you read the work, racial slurs are used.
2:50 Synopsis
3:29 Flannery O'Connor
9:00 Summary
13:20 Jumpin In
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E017 | A Very Technical Analysis of West Side Story (2021)
Today we dive into the remiagined West Side Story! Join us as we discus silence, love, prejudice and more!
2:53 Why this movie?
6:00 Synopsis
6:58 Familiarity
8:54 Jumpin In
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E016 | Back to Basics with Anime Star Wars
Today we discuss Star Wars: Visions! Take a look at anime with us...two people that have seen anime. Explore the True Good and Beautiful in a genre that might weird you out.
1:51 Synopsis?
4:52 A Light Jump in
7:10 Anime?
12:05 Why this?
14:30 Jumpin in
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Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E015 | Doctor Strange and the Meaning of Pain
Today we discuss the film Doctor Strange. Join us as we talk about pain and suffering while squeezing every bit of meaning we can out of a mainstream marvel movie.
6:30(ish) Synopsis
10:00(ish) Jumpin in
<https://open.spotify.com/track/7B1QliUMZv7gSTUGAfMRRD?si=aed91686387d4b2c>
INSTAGRAM!!! <instagram.com/thoughtheydie>
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E014 | Speed Read of the Four Gospels
Today we jump into the 4 gospels! Elie interviews Andy after he has done a speed read of the gospels.
0:40 Excuses
1:40 Concept Pitch (Why this idea?)
3:37 Jumpin in
Verbum Domini <https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_ben-xvi_exh_20100930_verbum-domini.html>
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E013 | Ip Man: The Virtues of St. Joseph
Today we discuss the film Ip Man. Tune in as we discuss the powerful humility and other virtues of St. Joseph. We'd love to hear more movies that you thikn relate to St. Joseph.
3:15 Why this movie?
6:30 Synopsis
10:07 Jumpin In
44:05 Os Justi Meditabitur (Bruckner) <https://youtu.be/ov-OAmpcRfw>
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E012 | C.S. Lewis in the Deep Dark Valley (The Oh Hello's)
Today we discuss the album, Through the Deep Dark Valley by the Oh Hellos. Tune in as we dive into suffering, sin, and the love of the Father.
1:47 Why this music?
3:14 The Band
4:36 Why this music? cont.
8:53 Jump-in In <https://genius.com/albums/The-oh-hellos/Through-the-deep-dark-valley>
Book Recommendations: The Bible, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Space Trilogy, & I Believe In Love
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E011 | Have you ever heard of the Tragedy of Macbeth?
Today we discuss the Tragedy of Macbeth, specifically the new film starring Denzel Washington. Tune in as we discuss masculinity, femininity, trust and more!
1:59 Saucy?
6:53 Beowolf <https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asin=B001ULOPUE&preview=newtab&linkCode=kpe&ref_=cm_sw_r_kb_dp_CDHGK7W9EA0YS19YYTXA>
11:37 Synopsis *spoiling*
12:14 Jumpin In
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E010 | The Good, The Bad, and the Mandalorian
Today we discuss Season 1 of The Mandalorian. Join us for spoilers and discussion of what we long for and what we were made for.
2:05 Why this series?
2:92 Synopsis
5:79 Why this series? cont.
13:57 Jumpin In
41:64 Outro(ish)
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E009 | Suffering and Spider-Man: No Way Home
Today we discuss the new film Spider-man: No Way Home. As usual, a sufficient spoiler alert is in order. We discuss the film in its entirety.
:57 Last Christmas Reference
3:03 Synopsis
5:55 Jumpin In
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E008 | Father Themes in Fantastic Mr. Fox
Today we discuss the film Fantastic Mr. Fox...neither of us have read the book...sorry about that. We will change that for a future episode.
Join us as we discuss the cult of Wes Anderson and those that opposse them. Don't worry we get back on topic.
1:23 Why this movie?
2:05 Synopsis
6:09 Jumpin In?
7:30 uncanny valley: used in reference to the phenomenon whereby a computer-generated figure or humanoid robot bearing a near-identical resemblance to a human being arouses a sense of unease or revulsion in the person viewing it.
9:50 Tension builds (the Wes Anderson Discussion)
21:30 Jumpin In (real)
36:57 Signs....again...for the 3rd time...
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E007 | Augustine's New Groove ft. Claire Ellendson of Dead Friend Saints
Today we are joined by Claire Ellendson of Dead Friend Saints to discuss The Emperor's New Groove and how it relates to the life of St. Augustine.
1:48 Claire Introduction
2:10 Andy & Elie demonstrate the classic NET simultaneous "mmm"
5:45 Intro 2.0
6:08 Why this movie?
6:50 Jumpin In with hor d'oeuvres
Dead Friend Saints <https://deadfriendsaints.com/>
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E006 | Prufrock: A Very Serious Analysis
SPOILER: We read the entire poem. And by "we" I mean Andy.
7:05-14:18 The poem is read...by Andy.
Poetry Foundation <https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/44212/the-love-song-of-j-alfred-prufrock>
Andy's Favorite Reading <https://youtu.be/D9Rh0F-JuNI>
Produced by NET Ministries, shoutout to Steven Smith
Art by Ali Hoffman
E005 | What's Up Spider-Verse
Today we deep dive into the greatest superhero movie ever made, Spider-man: Into the Spider-Verse.
As usual here is your spoiler alert. However no more spoilers for Signs Andy seems to be taking a rest from tieing that in...
1:15 Why this movie?
3:18 Watch the Blu-Ray Extras
5:10 Shout out to Dan
8:05 Ali Hoffman ROCKS <https://www.alihoffman.co/>
8:58 Synopsis
14:25 Jumpin In?
16:56 Blizzic <https://youtu.be/tlYd_OfQu9g>
29:13 Pitch Meeting <https://youtu.be/pPUey-qBNAI>
E004 | Hunt for Love with the Wilderpeople
At this point just know that we will always spoil the whole movie. Don't need that in your life? Watch the movie first!
Today we discuss Hunt for the Wilderpeople focusing in on the search for love and its disovery in reconciling and authentic relationship.
1:18 proverbially: in a way that relates to a well-known saying or phrase: in a way that is well known or generally believed:
1:38 Why this movie?
4:09 Synopsis
9:30 Jumpin In
25:36 halfway house: 1 a: a place to stop midway on a journey b: a halfway place in a progression 2 : a residence for individuals after release from institutionalization (as for mental illness, drug addiction, or criminal activity) that is designed to facilitate their readjustment to private life
29:00 Hour of Mercy
E003 | Boatloads of Shame: The Avett Brothers' "Emotionalism" Album
In this episode we discuss the Avett Brothers' album "Emotionalism". If you haven't listened to the album please go listen! We will focus on the songs Die Die Die, Shame, The Ballad of Love and Hate, and I Would Be Sad. Thank you for being here! Enjoy!
2:35 The Band
10:55 Elie butchers the Oh Hello's background <http://theohhellos.com/> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oh_Hellos>
19:50 Getting into Songs
23:42 Spoiler Alert
39:55 Mercy
E002 | A Big Fish in a Little Pond
In this episode we discuss Big Fish. If you haven't already, go watch the movie before listening. If you have seen it, watch it again! Thanks for joining us.
2:50 Synopsis
4:21 Andy Earns Money
4:30 Why this movie?
11:03 "Jumping In"
16:20 No Santa
23:30 "You've met old people." ??? Ok Elie.
24:29 SPOILER ENDING
29:29 Spoiler...for a different movie...again
32:09 Signs??? Again???
E001 | Is A Quiet Place the best movie of 2018... or all time?
*SPOILERS* We try to give sufficient warning. We will be discussing the film at length, including all major plot points.
We discuss A Quiet Place focusing in on the earnest struggle and authentic love.
2:23 Synopsis Overview
4:17 Why this movie?
6:35 Spoiler...for a different movie...
13:30 Luke 12:20
15:23 First Major Spoiler (for the movie)
28:53 All the Spoilers
40:00 Colbert Quote
E000 | Though They Die?
Join Andy and Elie as they talk about things of this world through the lens of Christianity. What things? Books, movies, podcasts, and so much more. We hope you join us bi-weekly for our conversations!
If you want to participate in the show, email ThoughTheyDie@netusa.org with your thoughts, questions, or even stories.