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Episode 39: Road Trip - Biere de Femme Beer Festival

Between the Pints

Episode 39: Road Trip - Biere de Femme Beer Festival

Between the Pints

Episode 39: Road Trip - Biere de Femme Beer Festival
In this episode Ryan makes his not so triumphant return (he was doing the recording and he is also why this is a day late) as the guys head to Asheville and Highland Brewing for the third annual Biere de Femme Festival.    Bierre de Femme benefits the Pink Boots Society and features beers brewed and spearheaded by women.   In this episode you will hear from Carol Waggeer from Bold Missy Brewery, Melissa Bruno from Mother Earth Brewing, our podcasting brethern Cheers Charlotte, and Richard Cox of Well Crafted. What you will not hear is the awesome intro the guys did that passionately made the case for more inclusion in craft beer and referenced King Arthur and Justice League.  You may also get a little bit of baby Declan. Besides our guests Between the Pints would like to thank the program director of one of the best public radio stations in the country, Joe Kendrick of WNCW, for the assist with the equipment.   Until next week, Slainte.  
March 08, 2019
Short Pours: Folklore Brewing and Meadery
Aaron was in Alabama last week, and had the privilege of talking to Jeremy Pate of Folklore Brewery and Meadery in Dothan, Alabama. They talk family, small town life, old school homebrewing, and connecting the beers of today with the stories of yesteryear. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for a SUPERSHOW coming soon as Ryan and Aaron record at the Biere de Femme festival in Asheville on March 2nd. Between the Pints would like to thank Jeremy Pate for taking the time to hang out and chat, as well as the whole team at Folklore for making Dothan a place where craft beer is alive and spreading the good word of great beer! #craftbeer #folklorebrewing #betweenthepints #dothanalabama #visitdothan #btp 
March 01, 2019
Episode 37 - No Ryan, New Baby, Pink Boots and Biere de Femme
Ryan catches a bunch of strays as he welcomes a new craft beer drinker (in 21 years) to the world.   Aaron welcomes Mother Earth Brewing reprsentative, Melissa Bruno to the podcast to talk about the Pink Boots Society and Biere de Femme.   Pink Boots is a group of women in craft beer that seeks to promote diversity within the industry (brewing, sales, marketing, etc.) and Biere de Femme is the beer festival they have created that isn't like any beer festival in country.  Biere de Femme is a rare beer festival with beers created and brewed by women and uses all the proceeds to pay for scholarships for women to gain access to different jobs within the industry.  Ryan will be back soon (the next espisode).  He will talk about he and his wife's new small roommate (he eats a lot, but doesn't pay for anything).  Now that the two babies are here, the podcast will return to its normal goofiness and hopefully a little more.
January 30, 2019
Short Pours - Colorado Springs
Aaron was somehow allowed to not only board a plane, but to even leave the state! Over the holiday season, he decided that the best gift that he could possibly give was to record from a few local Colorado breweries and to make some recommendations to you, our loyal (and likely drunk) listeners. Cheers! A special thanks goes out to Bristol Brewing Company, Iron Bird Brewing, Colorado Mountain Brewing, BierWerks Brewery, and Ursula Brewery for being such good hosts. #craftbeer #BetweenthePints #Podcast #ShortPours #UrsulaBrewery #BristolBrewingCo #IronBirdBrewing #ColoradoMountainBrewery #BierWerksBrewery
December 29, 2018
Episode 36: Brew News
Welcome back to the guys as they make a dramatic return to recording giving you, the listener, the opportunity to listen to them wax poetically about the failings of British cuisine, a trade war between Canadian provinces, and distributors being fined for doing the bidding of their macro beer corporate masters. Also, the badly try to hint at some of the things they have for next year's podcasts. Recommendations include Final Table, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, The Marvelous Ms. Maisel, and even a little beer.
December 13, 2018
Episode 35: Brew News
Welcome to Episode 35:  Brew News  In this episode Aaron and Ryan talk nuptials.  Ryan got married this past weekend.  Yes, it actually happened.  Aaron was there.  So were other people. Ryan also yells at the clouds to stop the rain and the guys hint that they are actually planning for the future of the podcast and that they will make the podcast will be fully operational next year. Articles from this episode -I Found the Best Burger Place in America. And Then I Killed It. -Tariffs Tapping into US Craft Beer Industry -Former Blue Moon brewmaster to release first THC-infused beer -Rosé, Regionals Driving Resurgence in Cider Sales -As US Beer Shipments Decline, Off-Premise Sales Remain Flat -Canarchy Craft Brewery Collective to Open Asheville Brewpub -Hundreds of Breweries Tell Sierra Nevada “We’re In” on Wildfire Relief Beer -Trillium Brewing Co. faces backlash for its labor practices Stay tuned and come back next week for more (occasionally) beer related hi-jinks.  Find us and  Slainte.
November 29, 2018
Episode 34 Short Pours Brew News
Ryan had to ride solo for this week's Brew News episode. This week he talks about CANarchy, Artisinal Brewing Ventures, and the place where politics and craft beer meet. Stories: Asheville’s Lexington Avenue Brewery acquired by CANarchy, turning into “Collaboratory” Artisanal Brewing Ventures Acquires Sixpoint Brewery Stick to Beer? — The Morals and Marketing Behind Choosing a Side Happy Thanksgiving from Aaron and Ryan. We hope you enjoy this abreviated episode. We will be getting back to our normal length and digressions next week. Slainte.
November 16, 2018
Episode 33: Uncapped The Golden Girls Edition
Thank you for being a friend. Welcome to a special episode of Between The Pints. Today Ryan and Aaron welcome Friend of The Pod, Bold Missy’s Carli Smith to give you their Golden Girls of craft brewing. The trio names their favorite breweries in the AARP category of the craft beer age. It is silly, we hope it is entertaining and we think it is informative. So, sit back relax, enjoy, and remember, “And if you threw a party Invited everyone you knew Well, you would see the biggest gift would be from me And the card attached would say Thank you for being a friend”
November 08, 2018
Episode 32 - Brew News
This week, Ryan and Aaron offer insights, breakdowns, explanations, and the occasional meandering diatribe on the latest happenings and news in the craft beer industry.
November 01, 2018
Episode 31: Uncapped - GABF Recap
The guys recap Ryan's trip to this year's Great American Beer Festival. They talk winners, losers, unexpected twists, and the history of the festival itself, all while constantly wandering off on tangents. The guys thank Hygge Co-Working for the podcast space as the opening and closing track. You can find more from Ryan at and and Aaron at Until next time, Slainte!
October 11, 2018
Episode 30: Brew News
Ryan and Aaron dive into the week's excitement with Scofflaw Brewing being its usual self, and the start of the new Beer Growth Initiative by industry trade groups. They also cover articles addressing the LBGTQ community and craft beer's role in creating a welcoming environment, cover once again the constant debate over children in taprooms, and discuss common mistakes that start up breweries make. The guys thank Hygge Co-Working for the podcast space. You can find more from Ryan at and and Aaron at Until next time, Slainte!
October 11, 2018
Short Pour: GABF Edition #3
Ryan sends in his last solo missive about the GABF. He is a crappy traveler, needing two days to recover from traveling and drinking so he apologizes for the episode being a little late. In this episode, he gives his overall impressions of the festival and the awards. Ryan would like to thank Dave, Ginny, and Maddie the Greyhound for their hospitality and more important their friendship as they housed him for 4 days. He would also like to thank his beloved for letting him go and have fun without her. Hopefully, they will find a way to go together next year. Thanks to the band Lobo Locos for the use of the song Running Eiskrokodil as the opening and closing music. Look out for new posts. The first should be a rundown of Ryan's favorite beers he tasted at the festival. Also, look for a new Between The Pints full episode dropping on Thursday. Until then, slainte!
September 25, 2018
Short Pour: GABF Edition #2
Ryan continues his GABF beercation dropping another episode to recap a nice day in Denver. He hit Fresh Craft, Seedstock Brewing, and had another session at Hogshead. Keep a look out for the blog post he mentioned going up today at He will post another Short Pour tomorrow with a recap of the GABF medal ceremony. Until then, slainte!
September 22, 2018
Short Pour: GABF Edition #1
Half of the dynamic duo, Ryan, is in Denver for the Great American Beer Festival. He is going to be dropping daily updates about what he is doing and what he is drinking. Highlights of his first two days include visits to Call To Arms Brewing and Hogshead Brewing; taking in a panel discussion about marketing to more diverse audiences for craft beer; seeing craft beer celebrities like show patron saint Garret Oliver; and drinking some good beer. Highlights of his GABF tasting include Elliott Bay Brewhouse, Vietnamese Coffee No Doubt Stout Hopworks Urban Brewery, Secession Cascadian Dark Ale Brasserie Saint James, Framboise Sauvage Epidemic Ales, Nutty But Nice Peanut Butter Stout Thanks to the band Lobo Locos for the use of the song Running Eiskrokodil as the opening and closing music. Ryan will post more about the panel discussion on his blog, later today. Also, stay tuned for another Short Pour from Denver tomorrow. Slainte!
September 21, 2018
Episode 29: Brew News
Aaron and Ryan manage to talk and entertain themselves for an hour even though there was no real news to discuss. The beer world is gearing up for the Great American Beer Festival. So, they either don’t have any news or they hold any bad news for Saturday when the awards are announced. The guys did manage to find a few articles to riff on for the show. Keep your ears peeled for quick hit podcasts from Ryan as he attends this year’s GABF. He’ll try to do summaries of what he has drank and where has been for each day to get you a feel of what is happening at craft beer’s biggest party. The guys thank Hygge Co-Working for the podcast space and Benjamin Banger for the use of Bobby Drake as the opening and closing track. You can find more from Ryan at and and Aaron at Until next time, Slainte!  
September 20, 2018
Episode 28: Brew News
Aaron and Ryan get through their quickest show in their run.  Yet somehow still digress wildly and forget names of famous people all in less than 20 minutes. First, they hit the IRI retail data for the beer industry.  Good news, craft beer is doing well.  The Brewdog Network is here proving that the Brewdog crew knows how to make money and stick their feet firmly in their mouths all at the same time.  The more things change, the more things stay the same. The guys thank Hygge Co-Working for the podcast space and Yung Kartz for the use of Diamond Clean as the opening and closing track. You can find more from Ryan at and and Aaron at Stay tuned for a new episode next week and Ryan will be reporting in from Denver and GABF throughout next weekend.  Until next time, Slainte!
September 13, 2018
Episode 27: Rating Sites Part Deux
Because Aaron and Ryan get tired of listening to themselves talk (at least Ryan does) they invited Neil Gimon of Dreamchasers and Townes Mozer of Lenny Boy to talk more about beer rating sites. The guys get into rating sites like Untappd, Beer Advocate, and even Yelp. What do they really think of them and how do they use them to improve their products and their taprooms. As always, Between The Pints digresses into unscripted territories. This week it is the merits of Pacific Rim and John Wick as cinematic masterpieces. The guys thank Hygge Co-Working for the podcast space and teeho x VYVCH for the use of Soma as the opening and closing track. You can find more from Ryan at and and Aaron at  Until next week, Slainte!
September 06, 2018
Episode 26: Brew News
On this week's episode, Ryan and Aaron go through some of the recent brew news. • 4 Small Breweries Happy to Stay Small • On The Dotted Line • Constellation puts up $4 billion stake in Canopy Growth • Constellation Brands lays off more than half its craft personnel • Stone files injunction against MillerCoors • Jim Koch Meets with President Trump Recommendations • Dogfish Head Pennsylvania Tuxedo • Galavant • Lancaster Brewing Milk Stout • Shacksbury Ginger Spritz • Cork Dork As always the guys would like to thank Hygge Coworking for the use of the podcast space. This week, we want you the listener to guess the theme music. Some of you will get as soon as you hear it because it will take you back to a certain time and place that will bring you great joy. Find our written work at and Thanks as always for listening. Slainte
August 30, 2018
Episode 25: Uncapped - Part 1 of Rating Sites - Safe Novelty
Aaron and Ryan were gone for a couple of weeks because Aaron and his wife welcomed a new tiny roommate and Ryan moved into a new house. They make their return with the first of a two-part series on online beer rating systems and what they mean for the craft beer industry. In the episode, besides the many tangents the Between the Pints has quickly become known for, they do manage to talk about Untappd, Beer Advocate and Rate Beer and how those sites are a part of a larger crowdsource movement that has changed not only craft beer reviews, but the way many of the things we enjoy for entertainment are critiqued. Basically, the guys try to figure out if these sites are Tools of Knowledge or Tools of Ignorance. Also, Aaron declares that furries are OK and Ryan takes shots at right answers. As always, the guys want to thank Hygge Coworking for the use of the podcast space. This week’s music is “Guitar Strut” by Lorenzo’s Music and can be found on Free Music Archive.
August 23, 2018
Episode 24: Session Beers with Rachael Hudson
In the latest episode of Between The Pints, Aaron and Ryan welcome Rachael Hudson from Pilot Brewing for an interview. The guys talk to Rachael about the new concept she and her husband Jeff are bringing to the craft beer world with Pilot Brewing. The name has a double meaning as Jeff is an airline pilot and more importantly all the beers brewed at Pilot will be in small batches and brewed by everyone on staff. Take a listen to learn more about Pilot Brewing and Rachael's journey to becoming a brewery owner. The guys would also like to thank Hygge Co-Working for the use of the podcast space, and Black Ant and Free Music Archive for the opening and closing music this week. Finally, you can find Aaron behind the bar at Kit’s Trackside in Pineville and at and you can find Ryan slinging beer at Craft Tasting Room and Growler Shop,, and at Craft Beer Consulting, LLC. See you next week.
July 19, 2018
Episode 23 - Brew News
This week, Ryan and Aaron cover the latest news and happenings in the craft beer industry, despite both running on virtually zero sleep and with zero energy. Oddly enough, this actually makes for some of the most interesting and eclectic commentary yet! On this episode they cover beer and cider rationing in the UK, the impact of beverages containing THC on the craft beer industry, a South Carolina brewery looking to expand west even while trying to sell their business, and so much more!
July 11, 2018
Episode 22: Session Beer w/ Ryan Self
Aaron and Ryan sit down with Olde Mecklenburg Brewery's Sales Director Ryan Self to talk traditional German beer, and their being the first in the craft beer industry to roll out plastic bottles. Prost!
July 05, 2018
Episode 21: Brew News
Aaron and Ryan talk news and happenings in the craft beer industry, while desperately trying (and failing) to stay even remotely on-topic
July 05, 2018
Episode 20: Session Beers with Joe Vogelbacher
In this week’s episode, Aaron and Ryan start a new interview feature called Session Beers. The first Session Beer guest is Joe Vogelbacher from Sugar Creek Brewing. He is the co-founder and President of Sugar Creek and an Advanced Cicerone. He is also going to be featured in a documentary about craft beer and the Cicerone program. In the interview you will find out about the Sugar Creek, the Cicerone program, the documentary and much more. Joe may be the most interesting man in Charlotte craft beer. The guys would again like to thank Joe and the rest of the crew at Sugar Creek for coming on and bringing beer samples. For future guests, we like swag, but beer samples are more then adequate. The guys would also like to thank Hygge Co-Working for the use of the podcast space and Blank Kytt for the use of the opening and closing music this week. Check them and a lot of other great artists out on the Free Music Archive.
June 21, 2018
Episode 19: All The News
Aaron and Ryan just sit and talk about the news this week as they prepare for a nice run of interviews over the next few weeks. Coronado Looks to unload Monkey Paw News about Stone and Boston Beer Craft Beer branding trends Overall beer sales continue to decline 2018 Beer Trends Three HBCU grads open craft beer bar in Harlem How To Invest in Craft Beer Deep Ellum Sales to Canarchy
June 14, 2018
Episode 18: Uncapped, Vol. 1
Aaron and Ryan debut their new show, Uncapped. They will deep dive into a single beer or beery subject or interview with a beer person. This week, they go into the Shaun Hill interview from a few weeks ago in which he discussed his own battles with mental health issues and fears of alcohol addiction. He talked about a lot more, but that is what everyone is mentioning. The two also give recommendations and generally digress at the drop of a pop culture reference.
June 11, 2018
Episode 17: Brew News
In this week’s episode Ryan and Aaron start playing with the format. You spoke. We listened. In an attempt to get the episodes down to a more listenable time frame we’ve broken the recording into to 2 episodes. No worries, there is the same silliness and pop culture digressions. This is the Brew News episode where the guys cover a lot of the big beer news of the week. The next episode, Uncapped will be a deeper dive into one particular topic.
May 31, 2018
Episode 16: Everything Goes With Apples (for real this time)
This is a reposting of the episode. We had a technical issue and this should get you all the Ryan and Aaron you need to hold you off until the new episode drops later this week.
May 29, 2018
Episode 15:
Aaron and Ryan are joined by John Watkins from Lenny Boy Brewing in Charlotte, NC. They discuss brewing for a place known more for kombucha then beer. The guys also hit on some news and a few recommendations.
May 23, 2018
Episode 14: Teaching Beer Without Being Pretentious
On this week’s episode Ryan and Aaron vamp because no one likes us enough to come on at the last minute.  Actually, the guest just postponed to next week. So, the guys talk about trying to educate the growing craft beer public without sounding like the Comic Book Store Guy in the Simpsons.  In other words, talking beer with newbies without being a pretentious prick.
May 14, 2018
Episode 13: Small Towns Need Breweries Too
Aaron and Ryan welcome Neil Gimon from DreamChasers Brewery out of Waxhaw, NC. The three talk about opening a brewery with an actual plan and how breweries help small towns by anchoring revitalization efforts.
May 07, 2018
Episode 12: Two Dudes Talking
Just as the title says, this episode is Aaron and Ryan talking. Mostly they talk beer, but they also talk about the tiny roommate Aaron and his wife will welcome in August. Then Ryan talks about his new venture Craft Beer Consulting, LLC. There is also mention of Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar. We had to postpone the interview with L.A. from Black Star Line Brewing due to car issues, but look forward to having her on at another time. We do have guests lined up for the next few shows and look forward to talking beer with them. Between The Pints would again like to thank Andy for joining us this week.  We would also like to thank Hygge Coworking West for the use of the podcast studio.  Finally, thank you to Ryan Little for the use of his song kick.push as our opening and closing music. You can find Aaron at and Kits Trackside Crafts.  You can find Ryan at,, and Craft Tasting Room and Growler Shop. Slainte
April 27, 2018
Episode 11: Love Your Craft
Aaron and Ryan welcome in Travis Tolson from Amor Artis Brewing out of Fort Mill, SC. The show gets off to a rough start. Aaron and Ryan both had long weeks at their day jobs, but despite not being professionals make a great recovery for a really good conversation with Travis. This turns out to be one of our favorite interviews so far. Travis has such a deep love of brewing and the community he lives in that it comes through everything he says and does, especially the beer.
April 11, 2018
Episode 10: Taxes Are Bad and 750 lbs. of Beets
This week, Andy Maben discusses brewing the Lemon Balm and Beet Hoppy Wheat Ale that won gold for New Sarum Brewing at this past year’s Great American Beer Festival as well as his and his brewing team’s reaction to winning.  He also touches on the challenges of being a brewery that sits between 2 major population centers (Charlotte and the Triad).  Ryan and Aaron also sample some of Andy’s handy work and forget they are on the microphones. Between The Pints would again like to thank Andy for joining us this week.  We would also like to thank Hygge Coworking West for the use of the podcast studio.  Finally, thank you to Ryan Little for the use of his song kick.push as our opening and closing music. Join us next week when will be joined by Travis Tolson of Amor Artis Brewing out of Fort Mill, SC. You can find Aaron at and Kits Trackside Crafts.  You can find Ryan at,, and Craft Tasting Room and Growler Shop. Slaint
April 09, 2018
Episode 9: Beer Rep Bingo
This week, Ryan (Aaron was off with his in-laws) welcomed 3 of Charlotte’s favorite beer reps: Ben Berazny, sales manager at Triple C, Cam Heiliger Charlotte sales rep for CANarchy (Oskar Blues), and Mike Eidy sales manager at Wooden Robot. They talked beer and the business for a rather long time.
March 27, 2018
Episode 8: Harass Your Local Brewer
On this week’s episode, Ryan and Aaron welcome Aaron Goss and Steve Bauk from Carolina Malt House out of Cleveland, NC.  They tell us about what a malt house does and how smaller, local, more artisanal malt houses are the future of where craft beer is going as it moves more into the overall locavore culture. 
March 20, 2018
Episode 7: Not Your Dad's Craft Beer
In Episode 7 or is it 6 of Between the Pints, Aaron and Ryan decide breweries should not sell you your dad’s craft beer. Show rundown: BREWNEWS (1:47) • Colorado’s Escalating War Over Full-strength Beer Sales Takes a New Turn (1:59) • Legislature (Maryland) Could Slow Craft’s Roll (7:40) • As Craft Industry Booms, Maryland Is Losing Brewers To Virginia (11:11) • CBA claims healthy growth (16:13) • Harpoon announced increased distribution of Clown Shoes (20:09) • Pour Your Own bars (21:34) with an ode to the bartender (23:11) • Aluminum Tariff (big story of the week) (30:55) Then we discuss the different types of beer drinkers breweries, great and small, must market to in order to be successful. (37:08) RECOMMENDATIONS (1:12:40) Caldera Toasted Coconut Chocolate Porter Wooden Robot Generously Hopped Volume 10 Counterpart Starz Show Versailles Netflix Show
March 13, 2018
Episode 5: Diversity. It's A Good Thing
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February 28, 2018
Episode 4: Wakanda Forever (bonus Black Panther episode)
SPOILER ALERT Join Aaron, Barry, and Ryan as they geek out on Black Panther.  If you haven’t seen the movie yet.  Don’t listen and go rectify…Continue ReadingEpisode 4: Wakanda Forever (bonus Black Panther episode)
February 22, 2018
Episode 4: Too Much News
Here is this week’s episode.  Actually, this is part 1 of this week’s episode as we have a Black Panther Bonus podcast also posting.  In…Continue ReadingEpisode 4: Too Much News
February 22, 2018
Episode 3: Kind Of A Big Deal
Between The Pints Episode 3: Kind Of A Big Deal (with all due respect to Triple C Brewing) In this week’s episode, your intrepid hosts,…Continue ReadingEpisode 3: Kind Of A Big Deal
February 14, 2018
Episode 2: Driving In On Pallets Of Money
On Episode 2: Driving In On Pallets Of Money (48:50 total run time), Ryan and Aaron welcome Will Warren of Cavendish Brewing in Gastonia, NC.…Continue ReadingEpisode 2: Driving In On Pallets Of Money
February 10, 2018
Episode 1: Brewers Are Cats
On today’s premiere episode, co-hosts Aaron Gore and Ryan Moses discuss some of this week’s beer news, interview startup expert Lea Keal, and Ryan forgets…Continue ReadingEpisode 1: Brewers Are Cats
January 30, 2018