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California PC 187: The Podcast

California PC 187: The Podcast

By Bret Cher Dwee
Bret, Cher and Dwee talk about murder, murder, murders that have occurred mostly in Los Angeles County California. We are an unpolished, crass trio who records out of our Jeep, Daniel. Cher uses potty mouth words, Bret tends to mumble and Dutch occasionally barks. We love True Crime stories, we do our research and we do this for fun and for free! Don’t let the sunshine fool you.


Dedicated to Uncle Robert Weldon, Vietnam Veteran and veteran of LAPD who worked as a Homicide Detective. R.I.P.
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California PC 187: The Podcast

March 24, 2022
March 24, 2022
Larry and Roy: Two Men & A Creeper Van
Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris, also known as “The Toolbox Killers,” terrorized and tortured teen girls from the South Bay in Los Angeles county for 5 months in 1979, forever changing people’s perception of the basic Van style vehicle. Sources 1. Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris. Wikipedia. 2. People vs. Bittaker. Supreme Court of California,In Bank, The PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. Lawrence Sigmond BITTAKER, Defendant and Appellant, No. S004359, Decided: June 22, 1989. Find Law. 3. Death Sentence Upheld for Killer Who Showed ‘Astonishing Cruelty’. Hager, Philip. Los Angeles Times. 23 June 1989. 4. “LA's 'Most Heinous Murderer Ever' Dies In Prison.” City News Service. PATCH, Los Angeles, CA. 5. Roy Norris. Murderpedia. 6. “Why Some individuals kill for Their Own Sadistic Pleasure:Fulfilling a need for power, domination and control.” Bonn, Scott A., PhD. Psychology Today. 21 January 2017. 7. “Murder” Texas Radio Fish. 8. “My California.” Epic Sound 9. “How Wearing Glasses Impacts Your Success, According to ScienceFour eyes may be better than two.” Hinds, Rebecca. 10. “Serial Killer.” Urban Dictionary. 11. “Rapist.” bigflyingdistraction. The Urban Dictionary. 11 August 2010. 12. Lucinda Lynn Schaefer. The Charley Project. 13. Andrea Joy Hall. The Charley Project.
March 10, 2021
2 Old Broads and a Mercury Sable
Geriatric besties, Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt grew out of their shared shoplifting avocation and life had become a drag for the petty theives. Helen and Olga began to commiserate with each other about committing the perfect crime that would give them the cash and adrenaline rushes they craved. They came up with a devious and greedy cocktail of insurance, derelicts and murder. For shame, Old Biddies! Tsk. Tsk.. SOURCES • “Two Women Convicted.” The Homeless Voice. AdMin, HV. 28 April 2011. • The People Plaintiff and Respondent v. OLGA RUTTERSCHMIDT. The Supreme Court of California, Los Angeles. People v. Rutterschmidt :: 2012 :: Supreme Court of California Decisions :: California Case Law :: California Law :: US Law :: Justia. • Black Widow Murders. Wikipedia. • Elderly women get life in L.A. insurance killings. Channel 10 KFDA News. • National Homeless Persons’ Memorial Day: December 21, 2020. National Care for the Homeless Council. • “Murder" Texas Radio Fish • "My California" Epic Sound.
December 19, 2020
The Skid Row Slasher
This Episode was accidentally published way before completion!! Well, shoot. We are obsessed by stories of those rare beasts in life who prey on people they perceive to be less than zero, like, homeless people. Épisode 16: Thé Skid Row Slasher. Crittenden, Jordan. Dark Dark World podcast. 10 October 2019. People of the State of Illinois, Plaintiff-Appellee,v. Vaughn O. Greenwood, Defendant-Appellant. Gen. No. 53,355. Illinois Appellate Court ​ First District, Fourth Division. September 24, 1969. Vaughn Greenwood: American Serial Killer. Épisode 31: Vaughn Greenwood The Skid Row Slasher. Crackhouse Chronicles. 4 March 2020. Greenwood, Vaughn Orrin. CDCR Inmate Locator: Public Inmate Locator.
August 23, 2020
Four Women, Four Sins: Ad Laudenberg
Through advancements in DNA technology and two tattle tales, the 27 year mysteries behind the mid 1970s murders of four women—3 from San Pedro and 1 from San Francisco—would finally get solved. It’s true what they say, every dog has his day. Sources : The Santa Clause Strangler. Morrison, Keith. NBC News. 13 June 2008. Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Wikipedia. Octogenarian convictied of woman’s Christmas Eve 1972 slaying. North County Times Wire Services. The San Diego Union Tribute. 21 November 2006. Lois Gwendeen « Bonnie » Rudisill Pétrie. Find A Grave. Jaxon Van Derbeken (September 21, 2003). "How alleged serial killer fell into trap / Man's loose lips led to ruse to get DNA". San Francisco Chronicle. Peter Y. Hong (November 21, 2006). "Man, 80, convicted in '72 murder". Los Angeles Times. Whittling While He Works : Entrepreneurship: To passersby, that old branch might be trash, but in the hands of Ad Laudenberg it becomes an attractive walking stick that he’ll sell by the side of the road. Dillow, Gordon. Los Angeles Times. 7 October 1993.
July 26, 2020
The Carpoolin' Mr. Nice Guy, Bill E Suff
The story of Riverside/Lake Elsinore Killer, William Lester Suff, born Bill E Suff, in Torrance, CA in 1950. What a creep. "Murder" by Texas Radiofish "My California," Epic Sound
July 17, 2020
The Rolling Hills Theater Murders
Sometime after closing on the night of Sunday February 11, 1973, the week-end children's sanctuary that was the Rolling Hills Theater in Torrance, CA, was robbed. The four employees still there when the perpetrator(s) arrived, were brutally murdered Execution-Style. The senseless and vicious slaughter of the four beloved victims at a place where parents regularly left their children for hours unsupervised, shattered the innocence of the era forever. "Murder" Texas Radio Fish "My California" Epic Sound. Wikipedia, The Daily Breeze, The Herald Examiner, The Los Angeles Times, hbd, Dwee! thank you for your friendship, love and protection.
July 17, 2020
The 1996 Murder Torture of Anthony Guest
In the first episode of our California PC 187 podcast, we discuss the horrific torture-murder of 20 year old, Massachusettes native and child actor, Anthony "Tony" Guest in early September 1996. After the girl he is crushing on complains about Guest's "unwanted" advances towards her to psychopath Spencer Brasure, Brasure offers to "just scare" Guest into leaving her alone. Known in his neighborhood in Hawthorne, CA as a bully and incorrigible jerk with a tattoo on his belly that brags, "MY MOMMA DON'T LOVE ME," Brasure has more in mind for the boy than anyone can possibly imagine. He enlists the help of his friend, Billy Davis, whose dad's house he and girlfriend, Sonia, were living in, as well as a neighbor, 17 year old Matt Ormsby. Tony Guest was two weeks away from walking his beloved sister down the aisle when he was murdered. He never saw it coming.
July 17, 2020
The Murder of San Pedro Lawyer Milo S. Smith, 1957
The 1957 Murder of a prominent lawyer in San Pedro, CA. SOURCES: Shanghai Red Cafe in San Pedro. Gnerre, Sam. 9 August 2012. FBI Nabs Suspect In Port Killing. Pittsfield Man Arrested In Calif. Robb-Murder. People v Turville. People v. Turville, 51 Cal.2d 620, 335 P.2d 678 (Cal. 1959) MacKerron, John A. “A Talisman against the Dark Forces.” The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (1973-), vol. 81, no. 1, 1990, pp. 171–189. JSTOR, Accessed 7 Apr. 2020. clemency. “Pittsfield Man Arrested In Calif. Robbery-Murder.” The Berkshire County Eagle. 31 August 1957. Milo Severn Smith. Charles Evan Turville. Michael Seal. Leave is a message at: or email us at, or
July 17, 2020
The Murder of Tatiana Tarasoff.
We are going up North this episode to tell the story of Tatiana Tarasoff and how her murder changed the rules of Confidentiality between Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Counselors and their Patients/Clients in California, as well as some other states. Dwee is here, but she is sleeping. Stalking Quiz. Tarasoff v Regents of the University of California. Wikipedia. “Just a Girl.” No Doubt. Song Facts. “The Murder of This 20 year old Berkeley coed changed the laws around psychology forever”. Anaya, Tina Knotta. Timeline. 17 September 2017. “. Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound Email us at: californiapc187@gmail, aol or Please visit our website at or visit our Patreon californiapc187!! Our Instagram is @Dweezemom21 and our twitter can be found through Our address is 1840 S Gaffey St, #324, San Pedro, CA 90731. It is a post office box as we are currently location independent, so we can’t host a meet and greet with ya there. Umm, #sorrynotsorry. Have a fucking fabulous day!! Love you, mean it n shit dot com. 🌼😍
February 26, 2020
Even Cindy Brady Knows That Tattle-Telling Ain’t Cool (REVISED)
Snitches. Sources The Use of Informants In California Criminal Cases. SHouselaw. “Informant says he was planted in Orange County jail to snitch.” CBS News. 21 May 3017. Alfonsi, Sharyn. “Is it Tattling or Telling?” Child Mind Institute. Howard, Jamie, PhD. “Snitch.” Merriam-Webster Dictionary. California Prosecutor’s Office Thought Serial Snitch Was a Liar, But Used Him Anyway.” Ferner, Matt. Huff post. 7 June 2017. Dry Snitch.” Urban Dictionary. “Blue Wall of Silence.” Wikipedia. “Stop Tattling.” Brady Bunch, CBS. Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound
February 09, 2020
Innocence Matters and So Does Rick Daly
A man was dead and burning in a dumpster in San Pedro, CA on the night of July 21st. He remained a John Doe for weeks until tips about the case from members of the tweaker community in Lawndale, CA as to who he was and what happened to him, started trickling in. There is a motley crew of characters in this True Crime Story, but the least known or cared about person of all just so happens to be the victim himself, Richard James “Rick” Daly. Ohemgee and What the Fuck. Mellen v. Winn, No. 17-55116 (9th Cir. 2018). Justia. Susan Mellen - Innocence Matters. Susan Mellen. The National Registry of Exonerations. Ghost Confesses to Killonh Antonio Alarcon. YouTube. Payasos Polygraph (2015). YouTube. Day Three: Interrogating the Innocent. Susan Mellen-Innocence Matters. YouTube. Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound
January 23, 2020
Word From The Bird: Two True California PC 187 Stories From the 1950’s REVISED
John Laurence Miller of Rolling Hills Estates was sentenced to Life Without Parole when he was just 15 years. He got out of the Big House at age 32 only to promptly return and given another LWOP sentence. Katherine “Kay” Frances Erickson had a low I.Q. but a promising future as a professional accordionist. She was given the shaft by those who were supposed to protect her. Sources John Laurence Miller. Murderpedia. Violet John Berling. Murderpedia. South Bay History. “John Laurence Miller.” Daily Breeze. 28 June 2012. Gennere, Sam. People v Berling. District Court of Appeal, Second District, Division 1, California. 1953 January 8. Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound
January 19, 2020
Checking In to Say Hello
Hi! Our next Episode will drop this Friday! It is going to be a good one!
January 11, 2020
Commercial For Upcoming Episodes of California PC 187: The Podcast
Featuring: Murder by Texas Radio Fish,
December 29, 2019
The Execution Style Murders of Alan and Retana Wellman, 1975
Big Phil Blair of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania hated the idea of prison so much that he would rather execution style murder two people then do one day behind bars. A gangster and a member of the Notoriously dangerous and murderous Black Philadelphia Mafia, also known as black brothers Inc. and BPM, Big Phil Blair got himself out of the 10 years would have been given if Alan Wellman would’ve testified against. Instead, his fucked up actions got him the death penalty in the state of California . Sources “Philadelphia Black Mafia Murder Timeline: ‘Get Down or Lay a down Boys’ Sheer Brutality on Display.” People v Blair. State of California Supreme Court. 9 November 1979. “Sherman Oaks, CA.” Wikipedia. Wellman, Alan E. (Disoto)Wellman, Renate. Family Tree Now. "Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound
December 26, 2019
Alba Park: Alba Escuenza “Susanna” Aleman Flores
Alba Ezusensa Aleman Flores December 10, 1980 - May 10, 1989. Gone but not not Forgotten. We recorded this episode and the episodes before this with a 99 cents store microphone, so the audio is not the best. Loud. Listener be aware. Thank you.
December 26, 2019
Creepy Santa: The Covina Massacre
The story of Bruce Jefferey Pardo and how he ruined Christmas for the Ortega Family of Covina on December 24, 2008. Sources: “Covina Massacre.” Wikipedia. The Disturbing Case Of 'Santa Claus' Killer Who Massacred 9 People At Christmas Eve Party Before Burning Down Home One police officer called the crime scene "apocalyptic." BY ALY VANDER HAYDEN “SITE OF BRUCE PARDO'S CHRISTMAS EVE MASSACRE IN COVINA UP FOR SALE JUST IN TIME FOR HALLOWEEN.” Romero, Dennis. LA Weekly. October 7, 2010. “Santa shooter carried secret guilt, attorney says.” Wilson, Stan. CNN. “Bruce Jefferey Pardo.” Murderpedia. Update on Spencer Brasure, perpetrator from Episode 1: “Spencer Brasure, Killer In Infamous 90s Torture-Murder, Found Dead In San Quentin Cell.” 15 NOVEMBER 2019. SF News. Jay Barman. Links to Helpful Resources: Los Angeles Crime Stoppers. The National Domestic Violence Hotline. National Network to End Domestic Violence The Charley Project NamUs Homicide and Grief: Victim Connect The First 48: Resources
December 21, 2019
Murder in Shadow Park, Cerritos, 1992
A woman and her live in maid were brutally murdered in an exclusive neighborhood in Cerritos, .CA called Shadow Park on April 30, 1992. Update: we are working on revising this episode as we know it could have been done much better.
December 18, 2019
Urban Legend: Vanderlip Murder in Palos Verdes Estates
Bret, Cher & Dwee discuss the stories of murder at the mansion of Palos Verdes Estates Founder, Frank A Vanderlip. Leaning more towards the idea that the stories are Urban Legand and not fact, Bret, Cher and Dwee take a trip to the Vanderlip Estates to do a little ghost hunting. Intro: "Murder." Texas Radiofish. Creative Commons. CCMixter.  "My California" by Pastis from royalty-free music resource, VANDERLIP STORY SOURCES:
September 28, 2019
Kristin and Neda, 1984
After Audrey and Nedas parents divorce, the girls and their mother, Shalah move into the Ridgegate Condominiums located on the edge of Rancho Palos Verdes. The O'Sullivan ladies' new beginning takes a turn for the worst after a neighborhood kid takes a toxic liking to Audrey. Link to sources:
September 21, 2019
California PC 187: The Podcast Audio Ad
Our first attempt at making an ad for our podcast.
August 05, 2019
Who Doesn't Remember How To Spell Their Own Name?
David and Dawn Viens moved to Lomita, California from Florida and opened up the popular and trendy cafe, The Thyme Contemporary Cafe. Friendly and likable, Dawn made a memorable impression on everyone she met. When she suddenly disappeared, her absence was noticed. Upon inquiring about Dawn's whereabouts Dawn's husband, David, responded with answers that just did not ring true to anybody. Then the shit really went down and got even more bizarre. "Murder" by Texas Radiofish "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound HELPFUL LINKS:
July 28, 2019
What's Next
What our next episode will be about.
June 16, 2019
The Pod After The Pod
We fill in a few gaps we left in The Shadow Park Murders, make corrections and/or apologies where due. We also answer our own questions from last show regarding how Time of Death is determined. Short, sweet, hopefully informative.
June 13, 2019
How to Become a Homicide Detective
The last episode was harder on us mentally and emotionally than we ever anticipated. It totally fucked us up. Therefore, we have decided to make episode three somewhat educational and light hearted. We take a more in depth look at California Penal Code 187, as well as give an overview of the Law Enforcement Agencies that serve Los Angeles County. We end on a positive note with a brief biography of LAPD Homicide Detective honored with Badge Number 1, John Paul St. John, better known as "Jigsaw John." Thanks for listening!
April 30, 2019
The Pod Before the Pod
This is what we are calling "The Pod Before the Pod." We briefly highlight Episode 2 of California PC 187: The Podcast in which we will tell the tragic story of the Harbor Area murder of 8 year old Alba Flores in 1989. We also talk about the Death Penalty in California. California is the Golden State, but don't let the sunshine fool you. Thanks for listening!! Pod Before the Pod Music and Resource: "Murder." Texas Radiofish. Death Penalty Information Center. "My California." Pastis. Epidemic Sound. Donate: Justice For Murdered Children.
December 21, 2018